Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Which Gamma are you using in the site. Vivo Gamma? Anecdotally, I have heard from Pharmacists that there can be less irritation with the 10% solutions since it is less concentrated. My son is 5 " 2 " and 110lbs. so not thin but he initially had more soreness redness etc. as time has gone on the skin has stretched and seems to have NO problems. He is not medicated at all now and we use 30cc per site. He is on Gammagard. I was talking with a pharmacist yesterday and we were talking about the improvement and he said some agencies are finding just what I said that using the same site has improved the irritations since it is stretched out like a pregnant tummy or full breast. Gradually it eases and takes the med easily. Keep in mind that this is our experience. OH yeah we use the love handles area above the hip bone to the front and back. BARBIE Sub Q side-effects Good morning- My son is on Sub Q and has had 7 TX. He had cellulitus once and each time he gets TX, the sites get really red, hard and itchy when the TX is complete. Prior to TX I give him a Claritin and Motrin. After TX he gets another Motrin. The next day he gets a Claritin and Motrin. And usually the next day too. Does anyone else have these issues? And if so, how do you handle it? During TX he applies a heating pad to the sites to try to help with absorption but it doesn't seem to help. When I use his arm/ leg the sites blanch so we have to stop the infusion at whatever site is worse then restart it when the blanching gets better. Any suggestions? By the way, he is VERY thin. He's about 5'3 " and weighs all of #95. Thank you <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 One of my boys have had cellulitis at the injection site-but the odd thing is that it was not red or anything until 2 days after-when the cellulitis and blister appeared. Now we are hyper-vigilant about prepping the area. My is skinny and my J has more fat.. But we've not had problems with them absorbing the IgG. You can see pictures of them on our family website www.shwachman.50megs.com <http://www.shwachman.50megs.com/> I have two pages of IgG pics-you can get to the second page from the first IgG page on the menu. Peace be with you, Pattie Shwachman-Diamond Syndrome Information Blog: <http://www.shwachman.blogspot.com> www.shwachman.blogspot.com Homeschooling Blog: <http://www.catholicmomof3.blogspot.com> www.catholicmomof3.blogspot.com _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of happy2beeeeeme Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:57 AM Subject: Sub Q side-effects Good morning- My son is on Sub Q and has had 7 TX. He had cellulitus once and each time he gets TX, the sites get really red, hard and itchy when the TX is complete. Prior to TX I give him a Claritin and Motrin. After TX he gets another Motrin. The next day he gets a Claritin and Motrin. And usually the next day too. Does anyone else have these issues? And if so, how do you handle it? During TX he applies a heating pad to the sites to try to help with absorption but it doesn't seem to help. When I use his arm/ leg the sites blanch so we have to stop the infusion at whatever site is worse then restart it when the blanching gets better. Any suggestions? By the way, he is VERY thin. He's about 5'3 " and weighs all of #95. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 That's pretty skinny, my first thought is your not infusing into sub q tissue but muscle. I know we had to wait for my daughter to gain a bit of weight because she had no fat on her and were going to be in trouble when she runs out of sites on her stomach because that's the only place she has any fatty tissue. Anyway, the stuff is really irritating to muscle and subq tissue so what your seeing could just be irritation. What needle set are you using? We use the soft sets and have been told repeatedly that in really thin people like my daughter that we have to se careful because the needles/cath are really to long and are made for people with a bit more weight but the were impossible for us because she could feel the needle scraping inside her and it she quite painful she said. They also have us use Gammunex due to volume issues due to her skinniness, at least that's what they told us. Sub Q side-effects > Good morning- > > My son is on Sub Q and has had 7 TX. He had cellulitus once and each > time he gets TX, the sites get really red, hard and itchy when the TX > is complete. Prior to TX I give him a Claritin and Motrin. After TX > he gets another Motrin. The next day he gets a Claritin and Motrin. > And usually the next day too. Does anyone else have these issues? And > if so, how do you handle it? During TX he applies a heating pad to the > sites to try to help with absorption but it doesn't seem to help. When > I use his arm/ leg the sites blanch so we have to stop the infusion at > whatever site is worse then restart it when the blanching gets better. > Any suggestions? > By the way, he is VERY thin. He's about 5'3 " and weighs all of #95. > Thank you > > > > This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a > Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the > sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional > advice. > > To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT) > To search group archives go to: > /messages > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Along the same line. Tummy, love handle sites and back of arms . Anywhere you can pinch a bit of skin that should contain some fat. A muscle does not pinch up well. So think of Sub Cutaneous as being under the skin basically. So fat is not so much the absolute it is just that it cannot be in the muscle or on the bone. OWWW!!! As I said earlier today. The important thing is that it has room to stretch and include the med. It does hurt more the first couple of times and gets better later as the skin gets stretched out. My son just sleeps through it now but was not happy the first 3 or 4 times Some people use heat and others use ice to decrease the pain. I am so sorry he is having trouble with it. BARBIE Sub Q side-effects > Good morning- > > My son is on Sub Q and has had 7 TX. He had cellulitus once and each > time he gets TX, the sites get really red, hard and itchy when the TX > is complete. Prior to TX I give him a Claritin and Motrin. After TX > he gets another Motrin. The next day he gets a Claritin and Motrin. > And usually the next day too. Does anyone else have these issues? And > if so, how do you handle it? During TX he applies a heating pad to the > sites to try to help with absorption but it doesn't seem to help. When > I use his arm/ leg the sites blanch so we have to stop the infusion at > whatever site is worse then restart it when the blanching gets better. > Any suggestions? > By the way, he is VERY thin. He's about 5'3 " and weighs all of #95. > Thank you > > > > This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a > Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the > sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional > advice. > > To unsubscribe -unsubscribe@ groups. > To search group archives go to: > http://groups. / group// messages > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 True but not always, for us if we use the injector pen it goes in to deep and goes into the muscle so we have to place them by hand or we end up infusing into muscle. Re: Sub Q side-effects > Along the same line. Tummy, love handle sites and back of arms . Anywhere > you can pinch a bit of skin that should contain some fat. A muscle does > not pinch up well. So think of Sub Cutaneous as being under the skin > basically. So fat is not so much the absolute it is just that it cannot be > in the muscle or on the bone. OWWW!!! As I said earlier today. The > important thing is that it has room to stretch and include the med. It > does hurt more the first couple of times and gets better later as the skin > gets stretched out. My son just sleeps through it now but was not happy > the first 3 or 4 times > Some people use heat and others use ice to decrease the pain. I am so > sorry he is having trouble with it. > BARBIE > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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