yeast/fungus in the blood?

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Hi Gayatri,

Hopefully the yeast stays in the GI tract, but the same way we can leak

undigested food

into the blood, yeast can make it's way into the blood. I've only seen three

children whose

fungus became acutely systemic. One NT child with gut problems was being

treated with

an antifungal and he had a case of ringworm on his shoulder blade for a month.

The

family pushed through and continued antifungals and it was gone.. Another NT

girl with

eczema went on the diet and recovered and then the family went off the diet and

stayed

off even after the exzema came back and the fugus seemed to have gone systemic

and

they are still working on her again and it's improving (and waiting to get in

with new

doctor now). The third was a ADHD child who went on antifungals and experience

alopecia areata (immune system related localized hair loss, typically in crop

circle looking

patterns) which resolved with further diet and oral antifungals.

So, what does all this mean? We typically use oral antifungals because the

fungus we see

in our kids is GI based, for the most part. I personally believe that we all

have an amount

that many of us leak fungus into the blood that the immune system typically

takes care of

it. I also see knuckle/joint cracking very often in leaky gut issues. I see

lots of teenagers

with AD(H)D cracking their knuckles for relief. A symptoms of my gut issues is

my neck

cracking when I roll my head around. Today it might have a pop or two or three

(I tried it

right now and I didn't get any), but when my IBS was going nuts I could pop it

like crazy.

You'd hear a parade of cracking and people would give me funny looks... besides

the ones

they usually give me... you get the idea.

Anyway, my belief for some time is that gas in the knuckles was caused by

bacterial/

fungal deposits or pockets. One thing that fungus and bacteria make is gas.

When these

kids are craving cracking their knuckles, I think it more than just a habbit, I

think it

relieves pressure from fungal and/or bacterial caused gas. Now, I'm the only

person I

know that has made this observation, so take it for what it's worth. I'm right

at least

sometimes, but not all the time.

I also believe that some joint pain, especially in younger folks, is related to

the immune

system going after fungus, that likely leaked from the gut, that has taken

residence in the

joints.

Now moving to general systemic fungal issues. The only way I've observed it

with with

skin related fungal issues (or possibly joint pain, but that's just a hunch)

like the ones I

mentioned earlier. I'm sure (meaning I would hope) there are blood test to

check as well.

I personally believe that oral antifungals also leak a bit into the blood

stream. It only

makes sense. That said, that could be a reason we don't see systemic issues all

that much

or maybe that part of the immune system is less impaired in our children.

If your child did get a systemic infection, a therapy for it would likely be IV

antifungals.

Come to think of it, it might be interesting to see how some of our kids would

respond to

low dose IV antifungals along with oral antifungals. I would guess the reason

that docs

haven't tried it is because that IV antifungals are more toxic since it has to

be removed out

of the blood.

Anyway, that's one person's thoughts on fungus in the blood.

- Stan

> > >

> > > For people using OLE long term, it wouldn't seem wise to avoid

> > > probiotics. OLE seems only to impact SOME of the kinds of

> things

> > > found in formulas like Primal Defence.

> > >

> > > I was using OLE on my son as part of his antiviral protocol, and

> > if

> > > we missed the second dose of probiotics for the day (one

> > Culturelle,

> > > one SuperProBio) it was much more likely that we had yeast that

> > > night. The same is true now that we're not using OLE. That is,

> > the

> > > OLE wasn't having an impact on those probiotics. What is having

> > an

> > > impact, IMO, is the viral die-off, which somehow feeds the

> yeast.

> > > And if we are not on top of that yeast with Candex and

> probiotics,

> > > we have sleepless nights.

> > >

> > > >Virastop and antifungals do kill what probiotics

> > > >contribute.

> > >

> > > Also, for people using antifungals like Candex, you needn't

> worry

> > > that the Candex will kill your probiotics. Candex is an enzymes

> > > that digests yeast, not bacteria. There are even people like

> > Dana,

> > > of Dana's View, who dose things like GSE with probiotics and

> have

> > > had no problems. This isn't what I do, but it is important to

> > > understand that antifungals attack fungal and not bacteria,

> UNLESS

> > > they are antibacterial as well, and even then there seems to be

> > some

> > > disagreement.

> > >

> > > It is my understanding that Virastop does not harm the bacteria

> of

> > > probiotics. Virastop digests the protein sheath of viruses--it

> > is

> > > an enzyme. Enzymes, like VS and Candex, are very particular,

> and

> > VS

> > > is formulated for proteins. If probiotics couldn't withstand

> > > enzymes, taking probiotics would be of no use to us because we

> > have

> > > enzymes in us working all the time.

> > >

> > > Anita

> > >

> >

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