Re: Re: spelling problems-From a Speech Therapist

[Guest guest]

ne and Judy, both your responses were very helpful!

I love it when I think I've heard all the answers, then a new one pops

up! It gives you hope.

Thanks,

On 2/5/2011 6:19 AM, ne D wrote:

> Hi,

> I am new to the group but thought I'd reply real quickly to this post. I am a

> Speech Therapist. The connection between spelling and speech is that if you

are

> not able to produce a sound correctly and possibly are not hearing the sound

> correctly you will most likely misspell the word or at least have difficulty

> " sounding " the word out. For example my son has always had issues with

> producing /b/ for /v/ and to this day will write " lub " instead of " love " on

his

> paper. So this type of issue will leak into other areas of the child's

academic

> life, not just in speech production. Now as far as dyslexia, I'm not sure the

> correlation because I am not that sure of the components of dyslexia. The

> previous poster answered this question beautifully!

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: " jghastings@... " <jghastings@...>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 7:30:23 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Re: spelling problems

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> Speech therapy isn't only for people who can't speak well, it cover the whole

> language from speaking and writing to comprehension as far as I understand it.

>

> The way the speech therapist explained it to me briefly over the phone, there

> may be a problem with the blends of words. He has always had trouble hearing

the

> blends in words even though he can say them correctly. Because he can't hear

> them, when he goes to spell a word, he gets confused as to how to write it. He

> can read extremely well, but gets stumped writing the simplest words.

>

> She is giving him a full language assessment to see how far the problem goes.

I

> am hoping for success because it is one of the biggest frustrations for him in

> school. But I am more excited that there is hope.

>

>

> Over the past year, I have been using magnetic letters for him to physically

> spell it out before writing. This works well because he knows what a word is

> supposed to look like, but it takes him a while sometimes to get it spelled

> correctly. But the biggest problem with this is the extra time that it takes.

He

> doesn't like doing his work and the longer it takes, the more he hates it, so

> spelling has always been a dislike for him. Hopefully this will change soon.

>

> Judy

>

>

>> Seeley<mmseeley@...> wrote:

>>

>> Judy, this is very interesting because someone recently recommended

>> speech therapy for my daughter, who has dyslexia. The recommendation

>> really surprised me. Do you know what the connection is between speech

>> therapy and spelling?

>>

>> Thanks!

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On 2/3/2011 1:55 PM, jghastings@... wrote:

>>

>>> Hi Tera,

>>>

>>> My son also has spelling problems. I pulled him out of school after

>>>

>> 1st grade, and this is our 3rd year home schooling. Luke has always

>> struggled with spelling and of course writing (because if you have

>> trouble spelling the words, how are you supposed to write them?)

>>

>>> I am writing because this week at OT, his therapist recommended that

>>>

>> we go to speech therapy to help with this. She said that she has seen

>> this before but has also seen this " block " disappear. This gave me some

>> hope because I have also tried many different ways to help him learn to

>> spell, but there is something blocking him from learning.

>>

>>> I thought it might be helpful for you as well.

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>> Judy

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> and Tera Macmanus<paulandtera@...> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> I'm enjoying reading all the comments about school. I homeschool all

>>>> mine.

>>>> My Aspie (9DS) is doing above level Math and reads on level but we

>>>>

>> hit

>>

>>>> the

>>>> brakes when it comes to writing and spelling. He can't spell to save

>>>>

>> his

>>

>>>> life and because of that, he doesn't write. We're trying keyboarding,

>>>> but so

>>>> far, Spell check can't figure out what he's trying to say either J I

>>>> think

>>>> we'll try Dragon Speak next.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Anyway, I was fascinated to see that so many of you said 7th, and one

>>>> even

>>>> said 10th, grade is hard. What age is that? Just want to make a

>>>>

>> mental

>>

>>>> note

>>>> to prepare myself!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> , I really appreciate your insightful and well thought out

>>>> comments.

>>>> Thank you for being such a good moderator.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Tera

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey everyone!

Just wanted to put my 2 cents in here. There have been studies that correlate

hearing (so differentiating sounds like someone else posted vs spelling) to

dyslexia. My husband is dyselxic and I truly believe that a large part of his

disability is the hearing issue. Its not that he's hard of hearing (although he

does suffer from Husband Selectivitis) its the subtle sound differences and

nuances that he can't pick up on. And he's as tone deaf as a stop sign)

Blessings!

Suzanne

- Re: Re: Re: spelling problems > > > > Hi , > >

Speech therapy isn't only for people who can't speak well, it cover the whole >

language from speaking and writing to comprehension as far as I understand it. >

> The way the speech therapist explained it to me briefly over the phone, there

> may be a problem with the blends of words. He has always had trouble hearing

the > blends in words even though he can say them correctly. Because he can't

hear > them, when he goes to spell a word, he gets confused as to how to write

it. He > can read extremely well, but gets stumped writing the simplest words. >

> She is giving him a full language assessment to see how far the problem goes.

I > am hoping for success because it is one of the biggest frustrations for him

in > school. But I am more excited that there is hope. > > > Over the past year,

I have been using magnetic letters for him to physically > spell it out before

writing. This works well because he knows what a word is > supposed to look

like, but it takes him a while sometimes to get it spelled > correctly. But the

biggest problem with this is the extra time that it takes. He > doesn't like

doing his work and the longer it takes, the more he hates it, so > spelling has

always been a dislike for him. Hopefully this will change soon. > > Judy > > >>

Seeley<mmseeley@...> wrote: >> >> Judy, this is very interesting

because someone recently recommended >> speech therapy for my daughter, who has

dyslexia. The recommendation >> really surprised me. Do you know what the

connection is between speech >> therapy and spelling? >> >> Thanks! >> >>

>> >> >> On 2/3/2011 1:55 PM, jghastings@... wrote: >> >>> Hi Tera,

>>> >>> My son also has spelling problems. I pulled him out of school after >>>

>> 1st grade, and this is our 3rd year home schooling. Luke has always >>

struggled with spelling and of course writing (because if you have >> trouble

spelling the words, how are you supposed to write them?) >> >>> I am writing

because this week at OT, his therapist recommended that >>> >> we go to speech

therapy to help with this. She said that she has seen >> this before but has

also seen this " block " disappear. This gave me some >> hope because I have also

tried many different ways to help him learn to >> spell, but there is something

blocking him from learning. >> >>> I thought it might be helpful for you as

well. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Judy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> and Tera

Macmanus<paulandtera@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm enjoying reading all the

comments about school. I homeschool all >>>> mine. >>>> My Aspie (9DS) is doing

above level Math and reads on level but we >>>> >> hit >> >>>> the >>>> brakes

when it comes to writing and spelling. He can't spell to save >>>> >> his >>

>>>> life and because of that, he doesn't write. We're trying keyboarding, >>>>

but so >>>> far, Spell check can't figure out what he's trying to say either J I

>>>> think >>>> we'll try Dragon Speak next. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyway, I was

fascinated to see that so many of you said 7th, and one >>>> even >>>> said

10th, grade is hard. What age is that? Just want to make a >>>> >> mental >>

>>>> note >>>> to prepare myself! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> , I really appreciate

your insightful and well thought out >>>> comments. >>>> Thank you for being

such a good moderator. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tera >>>> >>>> >>> > > > > >

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

[Guest guest]

Are you speaking of Auditory Processing?

Re: Re: Re: spelling problems > > > > Hi

> , > > Speech therapy isn't only for people who can't speak well, it

> cover the whole > language from speaking and writing to comprehension as

> far as I understand it. > > The way the speech therapist explained it to

> me briefly over the phone, there > may be a problem with the blends of

> words. He has always had trouble hearing the > blends in words even though

> he can say them correctly. Because he can't hear > them, when he goes to

> spell a word, he gets confused as to how to write it. He > can read

> extremely well, but gets stumped writing the simplest words. > > She is

> giving him a full language assessment to see how far the problem goes. I >

> am hoping for success because it is one of the biggest frustrations for

> him in > school. But I am more excited that there is hope. > > > Over the

> past year, I have been using magnetic letters for him to physically >

> spell it out before writing. This works well because he knows what a word

> is > supposed to look like, but it takes him a while sometimes to get it

> spelled > correctly. But the biggest problem with this is the extra time

> that it takes. He > doesn't like doing his work and the longer it takes,

> the more he hates it, so > spelling has always been a dislike for him.

> Hopefully this will change soon. > > Judy > > >>

> Seeley<mmseeley@...> wrote: >> >> Judy, this is very interesting

> because someone recently recommended >> speech therapy for my daughter,

> who has dyslexia. The recommendation >> really surprised me. Do you know

> what the connection is between speech >> therapy and spelling? >> >>

> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> On 2/3/2011 1:55 PM,

> jghastings@... wrote: >> >>> Hi Tera, >>> >>> My son also has

> spelling problems. I pulled him out of school after >>> >> 1st grade, and

> this is our 3rd year home schooling. Luke has always >> struggled with

> spelling and of course writing (because if you have >> trouble spelling

> the words, how are you supposed to write them?) >> >>> I am writing

> because this week at OT, his therapist recommended that >>> >> we go to

> speech therapy to help with this. She said that she has seen >> this

> before but has also seen this " block " disappear. This gave me some >> hope

> because I have also tried many different ways to help him learn to >>

> spell, but there is something blocking him from learning. >> >>> I thought

> it might be helpful for you as well. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Judy >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>>> and Tera Macmanus<paulandtera@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm

> enjoying reading all the comments about school. I homeschool all >>>>

> mine. >>>> My Aspie (9DS) is doing above level Math and reads on level but

> we >>>> >> hit >> >>>> the >>>> brakes when it comes to writing and

> spelling. He can't spell to save >>>> >> his >> >>>> life and because of

> that, he doesn't write. We're trying keyboarding, >>>> but so >>>> far,

> Spell check can't figure out what he's trying to say either J I >>>> think

> >>>> we'll try Dragon Speak next. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyway, I was

> fascinated to see that so many of you said 7th, and one >>>> even >>>>

> said 10th, grade is hard. What age is that? Just want to make a >>>> >>

> mental >> >>>> note >>>> to prepare myself! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> , I

> really appreciate your insightful and well thought out >>>> comments. >>>>

> Thank you for being such a good moderator. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tera >>>>

> >>>> >>> > > > > >

>

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ne,

Luke's difficulties aren't saying the sounds (although that was a problem when

he was younger), but he has always had difficulty hearing the sounds in words.

His hearing tests have come back normal. He doesn't try to misspell a word, he

simply won't write it until he knows how to spell it correctly. This isn't a

problem when someone will spell it out for him, but when I make him think about

it, he just breaks down because of his frustration. This is why I started using

magnetic letters, but the time factor is a problem for him and he knows that he

is behind in spelling which just makes it worse. I don't make a big deal about

it, but he knows they are easy words that he has trouble spelling and he feels

dumb when he can't spell which then leads to more frustration. I am seeing the

speech therapist on the 15th, so I can post her findings for those who might be

interested.

A question for those who have dyslexia. What is it? I don't really understand

what this is. I have heard of it, and I understand that it makes learning

difficult, but I don't know more than that. I don't believe my son would have

that because he can read really well, but I may be wrong.

Judy

> ne D <bryannedur@...> wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I am new to the group but thought I'd reply real quickly to this post.

> I am a

> Speech Therapist. The connection between spelling and speech is that if

> you are

> not able to produce a sound correctly and possibly are not hearing the

> sound

> correctly you will most likely misspell the word or at least have

> difficulty

> " sounding " the word out. For example my son has always had issues with

> producing /b/ for /v/ and to this day will write " lub " instead of " love "

> on his

> paper. So this type of issue will leak into other areas of the child's

> academic

> life, not just in speech production. Now as far as dyslexia, I'm not

> sure the

> correlation because I am not that sure of the components of dyslexia.

> The

> previous poster answered this question beautifully!

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: " jghastings@... " <jghastings@...>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 7:30:23 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Re: spelling problems

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> Speech therapy isn't only for people who can't speak well, it cover the

> whole

> language from speaking and writing to comprehension as far as I

> understand it.

>

> The way the speech therapist explained it to me briefly over the phone,

> there

> may be a problem with the blends of words. He has always had trouble

> hearing the

> blends in words even though he can say them correctly. Because he can't

> hear

> them, when he goes to spell a word, he gets confused as to how to write

> it. He

> can read extremely well, but gets stumped writing the simplest words.

>

> She is giving him a full language assessment to see how far the problem

> goes. I

> am hoping for success because it is one of the biggest frustrations for

> him in

> school. But I am more excited that there is hope.

>

>

> Over the past year, I have been using magnetic letters for him to

> physically

> spell it out before writing. This works well because he knows what a

> word is

> supposed to look like, but it takes him a while sometimes to get it

> spelled

> correctly. But the biggest problem with this is the extra time that it

> takes. He

> doesn't like doing his work and the longer it takes, the more he hates

> it, so

> spelling has always been a dislike for him. Hopefully this will change

> soon.

>

> Judy

>

> > Seeley <mmseeley@...> wrote:

> >

> > Judy, this is very interesting because someone recently recommended

> > speech therapy for my daughter, who has dyslexia. The recommendation

>

> > really surprised me. Do you know what the connection is between

> speech

> > therapy and spelling?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 2/3/2011 1:55 PM, jghastings@... wrote:

> > > Hi Tera,

> > >

> > > My son also has spelling problems. I pulled him out of school after

> > 1st grade, and this is our 3rd year home schooling. Luke has always

> > struggled with spelling and of course writing (because if you have

> > trouble spelling the words, how are you supposed to write them?)

> > >

> > > I am writing because this week at OT, his therapist recommended that

>

> > we go to speech therapy to help with this. She said that she has seen

> > this before but has also seen this " block " disappear. This gave me

> some

> > hope because I have also tried many different ways to help him learn

> to

> > spell, but there is something blocking him from learning.

> > >

> > > I thought it might be helpful for you as well.

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > > Judy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >> and Tera Macmanus<paulandtera@...> wrote:

> > >>

> > >> I'm enjoying reading all the comments about school. I homeschool

> all

> > >> mine.

> > >> My Aspie (9DS) is doing above level Math and reads on level but we

> > hit

> > >> the

> > >> brakes when it comes to writing and spelling. He can't spell to

> save

> > his

> > >> life and because of that, he doesn't write. We're trying

> keyboarding,

> > >> but so

> > >> far, Spell check can't figure out what he's trying to say either J

> I

> > >> think

> > >> we'll try Dragon Speak next.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Anyway, I was fascinated to see that so many of you said 7th, and

> one

> > >> even

> > >> said 10th, grade is hard. What age is that? Just want to make a

> > mental

> > >> note

> > >> to prepare myself!

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> , I really appreciate your insightful and well thought out

> > >> comments.

> > >> Thank you for being such a good moderator.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Tera

> > >>

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dyslexia is where the brain does not perceive the letters of a word

in the correct order.  That makes both reading and spelling

difficult.

On 6/02/2011 6:19 PM, jghastings@... wrote:

 

Hi ne,

Luke's difficulties aren't saying the sounds (although

that was a problem when he was younger), but he has always

had difficulty hearing the sounds in words. His hearing

tests have come back normal. He doesn't try to misspell a

word, he simply won't write it until he knows how to spell

it correctly. This isn't a problem when someone will spell

it out for him, but when I make him think about it, he

just breaks down because of his frustration. This is why I

started using magnetic letters, but the time factor is a

problem for him and he knows that he is behind in spelling

which just makes it worse. I don't make a big deal about

it, but he knows they are easy words that he has trouble

spelling and he feels dumb when he can't spell which then

leads to more frustration. I am seeing the speech

therapist on the 15th, so I can post her findings for

those who might be interested.

A question for those who have dyslexia. What is it? I

don't really understand what this is. I have heard of it,

and I understand that it makes learning difficult, but I

don't know more than that. I don't believe my son would

have that because he can read really well, but I may be

wrong.

Judy

> ne D <bryannedur@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I am new to the group but thought I'd reply real

quickly to this post.

> I am a

> Speech Therapist. The connection between spelling and

speech is that if

> you are

> not able to produce a sound correctly and possibly

are not hearing the

> sound

> correctly you will most likely misspell the word or

at least have

> difficulty

> "sounding" the word out. For example my son has

always had issues with

> producing /b/ for /v/ and to this day will write

"lub" instead of "love"

> on his

> paper. So this type of issue will leak into other

areas of the child's

> academic

> life, not just in speech production. Now as far as

dyslexia, I'm not

> sure the

> correlation because I am not that sure of the

components of dyslexia.

> The

> previous poster answered this question beautifully!

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: "jghastings@..."

<jghastings@...>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 7:30:23 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Re: spelling

problems

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> Speech therapy isn't only for people who can't speak

well, it cover the

> whole

> language from speaking and writing to comprehension

as far as I

> understand it.

>

> The way the speech therapist explained it to me

briefly over the phone,

> there

> may be a problem with the blends of words. He has

always had trouble

> hearing the

> blends in words even though he can say them

correctly. Because he can't

> hear

> them, when he goes to spell a word, he gets confused

as to how to write

> it. He

> can read extremely well, but gets stumped writing the

simplest words.

>

> She is giving him a full language assessment to see

how far the problem

> goes. I

> am hoping for success because it is one of the

biggest frustrations for

> him in

> school. But I am more excited that there is hope.

>

>

> Over the past year, I have been using magnetic

letters for him to

> physically

> spell it out before writing. This works well because

he knows what a

> word is

> supposed to look like, but it takes him a while

sometimes to get it

> spelled

> correctly. But the biggest problem with this is the

extra time that it

> takes. He

> doesn't like doing his work and the longer it takes,

the more he hates

> it, so

> spelling has always been a dislike for him. Hopefully

this will change

> soon.

>

> Judy

>

> > Seeley <mmseeley@...>

wrote:

> >

> > Judy, this is very interesting because someone

recently recommended

> > speech therapy for my daughter, who has

dyslexia. The recommendation

>

> > really surprised me. Do you know what the

connection is between

> speech

> > therapy and spelling?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 2/3/2011 1:55 PM, jghastings@...

wrote:

> > > Hi Tera,

> > >

> > > My son also has spelling problems. I pulled

him out of school after

> > 1st grade, and this is our 3rd year home

schooling. Luke has always

> > struggled with spelling and of course writing

(because if you have

> > trouble spelling the words, how are you supposed

to write them?)

> > >

> > > I am writing because this week at OT, his

therapist recommended that

>

> > we go to speech therapy to help with this. She

said that she has seen

> > this before but has also seen this "block"

disappear. This gave me

> some

> > hope because I have also tried many different

ways to help him learn

> to

> > spell, but there is something blocking him from

learning.

> > >

> > > I thought it might be helpful for you as

well.

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > > Judy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >> and Tera Macmanus<paulandtera@...>

wrote:

> > >>

> > >> I'm enjoying reading all the comments

about school. I homeschool

> all

> > >> mine.

> > >> My Aspie (9DS) is doing above level

Math and reads on level but we

> > hit

> > >> the

> > >> brakes when it comes to writing and

spelling. He can't spell to

> save

> > his

> > >> life and because of that, he doesn't

write. We're trying

> keyboarding,

> > >> but so

> > >> far, Spell check can't figure out what

he's trying to say either J

> I

> > >> think

> > >> we'll try Dragon Speak next.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Anyway, I was fascinated to see that so

many of you said 7th, and

> one

> > >> even

> > >> said 10th, grade is hard. What age is

that? Just want to make a

> > mental

> > >> note

> > >> to prepare myself!

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> , I really appreciate your

insightful and well thought out

> > >> comments.

> > >> Thank you for being such a good

moderator.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Tera

> > >>

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I read somewhere (can't find it now) that there is a type of dyslexia

where the child actually CAN learn to read, and may read quite well or

speed read (my daughter does this) ---- but the child can't spell.

My daughter was diagnosed with dyslexia and we were told that it would

take lots of time and lots of money to get her to read. We chose our

only option at the time--- Kumon tutoring-- and were pleasantly

surprised when she actually did learn to read.

---

On 2/6/2011 12:38 AM, Riley wrote:

> Dyslexia is where the brain does not perceive the letters of a word in

> the correct order. That makes both reading and spelling difficult.

>

>

>

> On 6/02/2011 6:19 PM, jghastings@... wrote:

>>

>>

>> Hi ne,

>>

>> Luke's difficulties aren't saying the sounds (although that was a

>> problem when he was younger), but he has always had difficulty

>> hearing the sounds in words. His hearing tests have come back normal.

>> He doesn't try to misspell a word, he simply won't write it until he

>> knows how to spell it correctly. This isn't a problem when someone

>> will spell it out for him, but when I make him think about it, he

>> just breaks down because of his frustration. This is why I started

>> using magnetic letters, but the time factor is a problem for him and

>> he knows that he is behind in spelling which just makes it worse. I

>> don't make a big deal about it, but he knows they are easy words that

>> he has trouble spelling and he feels dumb when he can't spell which

>> then leads to more frustration. I am seeing the speech therapist on

>> the 15th, so I can post her findings for those who might be interested.

>>

>> A question for those who have dyslexia. What is it? I don't really

>> understand what this is. I have heard of it, and I understand that it

>> makes learning difficult, but I don't know more than that. I don't

>> believe my son would have that because he can read really well, but I

>> may be wrong.

>>

>> Judy

>>

>> > ne D <bryannedur@... <mailto:bryannedur%40>>

>> wrote:

>> >

>> > Hi,

>> > I am new to the group but thought I'd reply real quickly to this post.

>> > I am a

>> > Speech Therapist. The connection between spelling and speech is

>> that if

>> > you are

>> > not able to produce a sound correctly and possibly are not hearing the

>> > sound

>> > correctly you will most likely misspell the word or at least have

>> > difficulty

>> > " sounding " the word out. For example my son has always had issues with

>> > producing /b/ for /v/ and to this day will write " lub " instead of

>> " love "

>> > on his

>> > paper. So this type of issue will leak into other areas of the child's

>> > academic

>> > life, not just in speech production. Now as far as dyslexia, I'm not

>> > sure the

>> > correlation because I am not that sure of the components of dyslexia.

>> > The

>> > previous poster answered this question beautifully!

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ________________________________

>> > From: " jghastings@...

>> <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au> " <jghastings@...

>> <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au>>

>> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> > Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 7:30:23 PM

>> > Subject: Re: Re: Re: spelling problems

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Hi ,

>> >

>> > Speech therapy isn't only for people who can't speak well, it cover

>> the

>> > whole

>> > language from speaking and writing to comprehension as far as I

>> > understand it.

>> >

>> > The way the speech therapist explained it to me briefly over the

>> phone,

>> > there

>> > may be a problem with the blends of words. He has always had trouble

>> > hearing the

>> > blends in words even though he can say them correctly. Because he

>> can't

>> > hear

>> > them, when he goes to spell a word, he gets confused as to how to

>> write

>> > it. He

>> > can read extremely well, but gets stumped writing the simplest words.

>> >

>> > She is giving him a full language assessment to see how far the

>> problem

>> > goes. I

>> > am hoping for success because it is one of the biggest frustrations

>> for

>> > him in

>> > school. But I am more excited that there is hope.

>> >

>> >

>> > Over the past year, I have been using magnetic letters for him to

>> > physically

>> > spell it out before writing. This works well because he knows what a

>> > word is

>> > supposed to look like, but it takes him a while sometimes to get it

>> > spelled

>> > correctly. But the biggest problem with this is the extra time that it

>> > takes. He

>> > doesn't like doing his work and the longer it takes, the more he hates

>> > it, so

>> > spelling has always been a dislike for him. Hopefully this will change

>> > soon.

>> >

>> > Judy

>> >

>> > > Seeley <mmseeley@...

>> <mailto:mmseeley%40pacbell.net>> wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Judy, this is very interesting because someone recently recommended

>> > > speech therapy for my daughter, who has dyslexia. The recommendation

>> >

>> > > really surprised me. Do you know what the connection is between

>> > speech

>> > > therapy and spelling?

>> > >

>> > > Thanks!

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > On 2/3/2011 1:55 PM, jghastings@...

>> <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>> > > > Hi Tera,

>> > > >

>> > > > My son also has spelling problems. I pulled him out of school

>> after

>> > > 1st grade, and this is our 3rd year home schooling. Luke has always

>> > > struggled with spelling and of course writing (because if you have

>> > > trouble spelling the words, how are you supposed to write them?)

>> > > >

>> > > > I am writing because this week at OT, his therapist recommended

>> that

>> >

>> > > we go to speech therapy to help with this. She said that she has

>> seen

>> > > this before but has also seen this " block " disappear. This gave me

>> > some

>> > > hope because I have also tried many different ways to help him learn

>> > to

>> > > spell, but there is something blocking him from learning.

>> > > >

>> > > > I thought it might be helpful for you as well.

>> > > >

>> > > > Cheers,

>> > > > Judy

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >> and Tera Macmanus<paulandtera@...

>> <mailto:paulandtera%40att.net>> wrote:

>> > > >>

>> > > >> I'm enjoying reading all the comments about school. I homeschool

>> > all

>> > > >> mine.

>> > > >> My Aspie (9DS) is doing above level Math and reads on level

>> but we

>> > > hit

>> > > >> the

>> > > >> brakes when it comes to writing and spelling. He can't spell to

>> > save

>> > > his

>> > > >> life and because of that, he doesn't write. We're trying

>> > keyboarding,

>> > > >> but so

>> > > >> far, Spell check can't figure out what he's trying to say

>> either J

>> > I

>> > > >> think

>> > > >> we'll try Dragon Speak next.

>> > > >>

>> > > >>

>> > > >>

>> > > >> Anyway, I was fascinated to see that so many of you said 7th, and

>> > one

>> > > >> even

>> > > >> said 10th, grade is hard. What age is that? Just want to make a

>> > > mental

>> > > >> note

>> > > >> to prepare myself!

>> > > >>

>> > > >>

>> > > >>

>> > > >> , I really appreciate your insightful and well thought out

>> > > >> comments.

>> > > >> Thank you for being such a good moderator.

>> > > >>

>> > > >>

>> > > >>

>> > > >> Tera

>> > > >>

>> > > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks . I had heard of it and even know people with dyslexia but didn't

really understand it.

Judy

> Riley <klriley@...> wrote:

>

> Dyslexia is where the brain does not perceive the letters of a word in

> the correct order. That makes both reading and spelling difficult.

>

>

>

> On 6/02/2011 6:19 PM, jghastings@... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hi ne,

> >

> > Luke's difficulties aren't saying the sounds (although that was a

> > problem when he was younger), but he has always had difficulty hearing

>

> > the sounds in words. His hearing tests have come back normal. He

> > doesn't try to misspell a word, he simply won't write it until he

> > knows how to spell it correctly. This isn't a problem when someone

> > will spell it out for him, but when I make him think about it, he just

>

> > breaks down because of his frustration. This is why I started using

> > magnetic letters, but the time factor is a problem for him and he

> > knows that he is behind in spelling which just makes it worse. I don't

>

> > make a big deal about it, but he knows they are easy words that he has

>

> > trouble spelling and he feels dumb when he can't spell which then

> > leads to more frustration. I am seeing the speech therapist on the

> > 15th, so I can post her findings for those who might be interested.

> >

> > A question for those who have dyslexia. What is it? I don't really

> > understand what this is. I have heard of it, and I understand that it

> > makes learning difficult, but I don't know more than that. I don't

> > believe my son would have that because he can read really well, but I

> > may be wrong.

> >

> > Judy

> >

> > > ne D <bryannedur@... <mailto:bryannedur%40>>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I am new to the group but thought I'd reply real quickly to this

> post.

> > > I am a

> > > Speech Therapist. The connection between spelling and speech is that

> if

> > > you are

> > > not able to produce a sound correctly and possibly are not hearing

> the

> > > sound

> > > correctly you will most likely misspell the word or at least have

> > > difficulty

> > > " sounding " the word out. For example my son has always had issues

> with

> > > producing /b/ for /v/ and to this day will write " lub " instead of

> > " love "

> > > on his

> > > paper. So this type of issue will leak into other areas of the

> child's

> > > academic

> > > life, not just in speech production. Now as far as dyslexia, I'm not

> > > sure the

> > > correlation because I am not that sure of the components of

> dyslexia.

> > > The

> > > previous poster answered this question beautifully!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: " jghastings@...

> > <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au> " <jghastings@...

> > <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au>>

> > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> > <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

> > > Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 7:30:23 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Re: spelling problems

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > Speech therapy isn't only for people who can't speak well, it cover

> the

> > > whole

> > > language from speaking and writing to comprehension as far as I

> > > understand it.

> > >

> > > The way the speech therapist explained it to me briefly over the

> phone,

> > > there

> > > may be a problem with the blends of words. He has always had trouble

> > > hearing the

> > > blends in words even though he can say them correctly. Because he

> can't

> > > hear

> > > them, when he goes to spell a word, he gets confused as to how to

> write

> > > it. He

> > > can read extremely well, but gets stumped writing the simplest

> words.

> > >

> > > She is giving him a full language assessment to see how far the

> problem

> > > goes. I

> > > am hoping for success because it is one of the biggest frustrations

> for

> > > him in

> > > school. But I am more excited that there is hope.

> > >

> > >

> > > Over the past year, I have been using magnetic letters for him to

> > > physically

> > > spell it out before writing. This works well because he knows what a

> > > word is

> > > supposed to look like, but it takes him a while sometimes to get it

> > > spelled

> > > correctly. But the biggest problem with this is the extra time that

> it

> > > takes. He

> > > doesn't like doing his work and the longer it takes, the more he

> hates

> > > it, so

> > > spelling has always been a dislike for him. Hopefully this will

> change

> > > soon.

> > >

> > > Judy

> > >

> > > > Seeley <mmseeley@...

> > <mailto:mmseeley%40pacbell.net>> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Judy, this is very interesting because someone recently

> recommended

> > > > speech therapy for my daughter, who has dyslexia. The

> recommendation

> > >

> > > > really surprised me. Do you know what the connection is between

> > > speech

> > > > therapy and spelling?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 2/3/2011 1:55 PM, jghastings@...

> > <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> > > > > Hi Tera,

> > > > >

> > > > > My son also has spelling problems. I pulled him out of school

> after

> > > > 1st grade, and this is our 3rd year home schooling. Luke has

> always

> > > > struggled with spelling and of course writing (because if you have

> > > > trouble spelling the words, how are you supposed to write them?)

> > > > >

> > > > > I am writing because this week at OT, his therapist recommended

> > that

> > >

> > > > we go to speech therapy to help with this. She said that she has

> seen

> > > > this before but has also seen this " block " disappear. This gave me

> > > some

> > > > hope because I have also tried many different ways to help him

> learn

> > > to

> > > > spell, but there is something blocking him from learning.

> > > > >

> > > > > I thought it might be helpful for you as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers,

> > > > > Judy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >> and Tera Macmanus<paulandtera@...

> > <mailto:paulandtera%40att.net>> wrote:

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I'm enjoying reading all the comments about school. I

> homeschool

> > > all

> > > > >> mine.

> > > > >> My Aspie (9DS) is doing above level Math and reads on level but

> we

> > > > hit

> > > > >> the

> > > > >> brakes when it comes to writing and spelling. He can't spell to

> > > save

> > > > his

> > > > >> life and because of that, he doesn't write. We're trying

> > > keyboarding,

> > > > >> but so

> > > > >> far, Spell check can't figure out what he's trying to say

> either J

> > > I

> > > > >> think

> > > > >> we'll try Dragon Speak next.

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Anyway, I was fascinated to see that so many of you said 7th,

> and

> > > one

> > > > >> even

> > > > >> said 10th, grade is hard. What age is that? Just want to make a

> > > > mental

> > > > >> note

> > > > >> to prepare myself!

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> , I really appreciate your insightful and well thought out

> > > > >> comments.

> > > > >> Thank you for being such a good moderator.

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Tera

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks . I have an appointment with the psychiatrist today. I might bring

it up to see his opinion. It may explain a few things, but may not. I don't

really care what the problem is, but when you don't know it, it makes it hard to

get past.

Judy

> Seeley <mmseeley@...> wrote:

>

> I read somewhere (can't find it now) that there is a type of dyslexia

> where the child actually CAN learn to read, and may read quite well or

> speed read (my daughter does this) ---- but the child can't spell.

>

> My daughter was diagnosed with dyslexia and we were told that it would

> take lots of time and lots of money to get her to read. We chose our

> only option at the time--- Kumon tutoring-- and were pleasantly

> surprised when she actually did learn to read.

>

> ---

>

>

>

>

>

> On 2/6/2011 12:38 AM, Riley wrote:

> > Dyslexia is where the brain does not perceive the letters of a word in

>

> > the correct order. That makes both reading and spelling difficult.

> >

> >

> >

> > On 6/02/2011 6:19 PM, jghastings@... wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >> Hi ne,

> >>

> >> Luke's difficulties aren't saying the sounds (although that was a

> >> problem when he was younger), but he has always had difficulty

> >> hearing the sounds in words. His hearing tests have come back normal.

>

> >> He doesn't try to misspell a word, he simply won't write it until he

> >> knows how to spell it correctly. This isn't a problem when someone

> >> will spell it out for him, but when I make him think about it, he

> >> just breaks down because of his frustration. This is why I started

> >> using magnetic letters, but the time factor is a problem for him and

> >> he knows that he is behind in spelling which just makes it worse. I

> >> don't make a big deal about it, but he knows they are easy words that

>

> >> he has trouble spelling and he feels dumb when he can't spell which

> >> then leads to more frustration. I am seeing the speech therapist on

> >> the 15th, so I can post her findings for those who might be

> interested.

> >>

> >> A question for those who have dyslexia. What is it? I don't really

> >> understand what this is. I have heard of it, and I understand that it

>

> >> makes learning difficult, but I don't know more than that. I don't

> >> believe my son would have that because he can read really well, but I

>

> >> may be wrong.

> >>

> >> Judy

> >>

> >> > ne D <bryannedur@... <mailto:bryannedur%40>>

> >> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Hi,

> >> > I am new to the group but thought I'd reply real quickly to this

> post.

> >> > I am a

> >> > Speech Therapist. The connection between spelling and speech is

> >> that if

> >> > you are

> >> > not able to produce a sound correctly and possibly are not hearing

> the

> >> > sound

> >> > correctly you will most likely misspell the word or at least have

> >> > difficulty

> >> > " sounding " the word out. For example my son has always had issues

> with

> >> > producing /b/ for /v/ and to this day will write " lub " instead of

> >> " love "

> >> > on his

> >> > paper. So this type of issue will leak into other areas of the

> child's

> >> > academic

> >> > life, not just in speech production. Now as far as dyslexia, I'm

> not

> >> > sure the

> >> > correlation because I am not that sure of the components of

> dyslexia.

> >> > The

> >> > previous poster answered this question beautifully!

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ________________________________

> >> > From: " jghastings@...

> >> <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au> " <jghastings@...

> >> <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au>>

> >> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

> >> > Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 7:30:23 PM

> >> > Subject: Re: Re: Re: spelling problems

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Hi ,

> >> >

> >> > Speech therapy isn't only for people who can't speak well, it cover

>

> >> the

> >> > whole

> >> > language from speaking and writing to comprehension as far as I

> >> > understand it.

> >> >

> >> > The way the speech therapist explained it to me briefly over the

> >> phone,

> >> > there

> >> > may be a problem with the blends of words. He has always had

> trouble

> >> > hearing the

> >> > blends in words even though he can say them correctly. Because he

> >> can't

> >> > hear

> >> > them, when he goes to spell a word, he gets confused as to how to

> >> write

> >> > it. He

> >> > can read extremely well, but gets stumped writing the simplest

> words.

> >> >

> >> > She is giving him a full language assessment to see how far the

> >> problem

> >> > goes. I

> >> > am hoping for success because it is one of the biggest frustrations

>

> >> for

> >> > him in

> >> > school. But I am more excited that there is hope.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Over the past year, I have been using magnetic letters for him to

> >> > physically

> >> > spell it out before writing. This works well because he knows what

> a

> >> > word is

> >> > supposed to look like, but it takes him a while sometimes to get it

> >> > spelled

> >> > correctly. But the biggest problem with this is the extra time that

> it

> >> > takes. He

> >> > doesn't like doing his work and the longer it takes, the more he

> hates

> >> > it, so

> >> > spelling has always been a dislike for him. Hopefully this will

> change

> >> > soon.

> >> >

> >> > Judy

> >> >

> >> > > Seeley <mmseeley@...

> >> <mailto:mmseeley%40pacbell.net>> wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > Judy, this is very interesting because someone recently

> recommended

> >> > > speech therapy for my daughter, who has dyslexia. The

> recommendation

> >> >

> >> > > really surprised me. Do you know what the connection is between

> >> > speech

> >> > > therapy and spelling?

> >> > >

> >> > > Thanks!

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > On 2/3/2011 1:55 PM, jghastings@...

> >> <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> >> > > > Hi Tera,

> >> > > >

> >> > > > My son also has spelling problems. I pulled him out of school

> >> after

> >> > > 1st grade, and this is our 3rd year home schooling. Luke has

> always

> >> > > struggled with spelling and of course writing (because if you

> have

> >> > > trouble spelling the words, how are you supposed to write them?)

> >> > > >

> >> > > > I am writing because this week at OT, his therapist recommended

>

> >> that

> >> >

> >> > > we go to speech therapy to help with this. She said that she has

> >> seen

> >> > > this before but has also seen this " block " disappear. This gave

> me

> >> > some

> >> > > hope because I have also tried many different ways to help him

> learn

> >> > to

> >> > > spell, but there is something blocking him from learning.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > I thought it might be helpful for you as well.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Cheers,

> >> > > > Judy

> >> > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > > >> and Tera Macmanus<paulandtera@...

> >> <mailto:paulandtera%40att.net>> wrote:

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >> I'm enjoying reading all the comments about school. I

> homeschool

> >> > all

> >> > > >> mine.

> >> > > >> My Aspie (9DS) is doing above level Math and reads on level

> >> but we

> >> > > hit

> >> > > >> the

> >> > > >> brakes when it comes to writing and spelling. He can't spell

> to

> >> > save

> >> > > his

> >> > > >> life and because of that, he doesn't write. We're trying

> >> > keyboarding,

> >> > > >> but so

> >> > > >> far, Spell check can't figure out what he's trying to say

> >> either J

> >> > I

> >> > > >> think

> >> > > >> we'll try Dragon Speak next.

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >> Anyway, I was fascinated to see that so many of you said 7th,

> and

> >> > one

> >> > > >> even

> >> > > >> said 10th, grade is hard. What age is that? Just want to make

> a

> >> > > mental

> >> > > >> note

> >> > > >> to prepare myself!

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >> , I really appreciate your insightful and well thought

> out

> >> > > >> comments.

> >> > > >> Thank you for being such a good moderator.

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >> Tera

> >> > > >>

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

[Guest guest]

Three types are:

Dyspraxia (Development and Coordination Disoder)

Dyscalculia (Mathematic Disorder)

Dygraphia (Disorder of Written Expression) - could impact spelling and other writing

From: Seeley <mmseeley@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 3:12:59 PMSubject: Re: Re: spelling problems-From a Speech Therapist

I read somewhere (can't find it now) that there is a type of dyslexia where the child actually CAN learn to read, and may read quite well or speed read (my daughter does this) ---- but the child can't spell.My daughter was diagnosed with dyslexia and we were told that it would take lots of time and lots of money to get her to read. We chose our only option at the time--- Kumon tutoring-- and were pleasantly surprised when she actually did learn to read.---On 2/6/2011 12:38 AM, Riley wrote:> Dyslexia is where the brain does not perceive the letters of a word in > the correct order. That makes both reading and spelling difficult.>> >> On 6/02/2011 6:19 PM, jghastings@... wrote:>>>>>> Hi

ne,>>>> Luke's difficulties aren't saying the sounds (although that was a >> problem when he was younger), but he has always had difficulty >> hearing the sounds in words. His hearing tests have come back normal. >> He doesn't try to misspell a word, he simply won't write it until he >> knows how to spell it correctly. This isn't a problem when someone >> will spell it out for him, but when I make him think about it, he >> just breaks down because of his frustration. This is why I started >> using magnetic letters, but the time factor is a problem for him and >> he knows that he is behind in spelling which just makes it worse. I >> don't make a big deal about it, but he knows they are easy words that >> he has trouble spelling and he feels dumb when he can't spell which >> then leads to more frustration. I am seeing the

speech therapist on >> the 15th, so I can post her findings for those who might be interested.>>>> A question for those who have dyslexia. What is it? I don't really >> understand what this is. I have heard of it, and I understand that it >> makes learning difficult, but I don't know more than that. I don't >> believe my son would have that because he can read really well, but I >> may be wrong.>>>> Judy>>>> > ne D <bryannedur@... <mailto:bryannedur%40>> >> wrote:>> >>> > Hi,>> > I am new to the group but thought I'd reply real quickly to this post.>> > I am a>> > Speech Therapist. The connection between spelling and speech is

>> that if>> > you are>> > not able to produce a sound correctly and possibly are not hearing the>> > sound>> > correctly you will most likely misspell the word or at least have>> > difficulty>> > "sounding" the word out. For example my son has always had issues with>> > producing /b/ for /v/ and to this day will write "lub" instead of >> "love">> > on his>> > paper. So this type of issue will leak into other areas of the child's>> > academic>> > life, not just in speech production. Now as far as dyslexia, I'm not>> > sure the>> > correlation because I am not that sure of the components of dyslexia.>> > The>> > previous poster answered this question beautifully! >> >>> >>> >>>

>>> > ________________________________>> > From: "jghastings@... >> <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au>" <jghastings@... >> <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au>>>> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>>> > Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 7:30:23 PM>> > Subject: Re: Re: Re: spelling problems>> >>> >>> >>> > Hi

,>> >>> > Speech therapy isn't only for people who can't speak well, it cover >> the>> > whole>> > language from speaking and writing to comprehension as far as I>> > understand it.>> >>> > The way the speech therapist explained it to me briefly over the >> phone,>> > there>> > may be a problem with the blends of words. He has always had trouble>> > hearing the>> > blends in words even though he can say them correctly. Because he >> can't>> > hear>> > them, when he goes to spell a word, he gets confused as to how to >> write>> > it. He>> > can read extremely well, but gets stumped writing the simplest words.>> >>> > She is giving him a full language assessment to see how far the >>

problem>> > goes. I>> > am hoping for success because it is one of the biggest frustrations >> for>> > him in>> > school. But I am more excited that there is hope.>> >>> >>> > Over the past year, I have been using magnetic letters for him to>> > physically>> > spell it out before writing. This works well because he knows what a>> > word is>> > supposed to look like, but it takes him a while sometimes to get it>> > spelled>> > correctly. But the biggest problem with this is the extra time that it>> > takes. He>> > doesn't like doing his work and the longer it takes, the more he hates>> > it, so>> > spelling has always been a dislike for him. Hopefully this will change>> > soon.>> >>> >

Judy>> >>> > > Seeley <mmseeley@... >> <mailto:mmseeley%40pacbell.net>> wrote:>> > >>> > > Judy, this is very interesting because someone recently recommended>> > > speech therapy for my daughter, who has dyslexia. The recommendation>> >>> > > really surprised me. Do you know what the connection is between>> > speech>> > > therapy and spelling?>> > >>> > > Thanks!>> > > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > On 2/3/2011 1:55 PM, jghastings@... >> <mailto:jghastings%40optusnet.com.au> wrote:>> > > > Hi Tera,>> > > >>> > > > My son also has spelling problems. I pulled him out of school >> after>> > > 1st grade, and this is our 3rd year home schooling. Luke has always>> > > struggled with spelling and of course writing (because if you have>> > > trouble spelling the words, how are you supposed to write them?)>> > > >>> > > > I am writing because this week at OT, his therapist recommended >> that>> >>> > > we go to speech therapy to help with this. She said that she has >> seen>> > > this before but has also seen this "block" disappear. This gave me>> > some>> >

> hope because I have also tried many different ways to help him learn>> > to>> > > spell, but there is something blocking him from learning.>> > > >>> > > > I thought it might be helpful for you as well.>> > > >>> > > > Cheers,>> > > > Judy>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> and Tera Macmanus<paulandtera@... >> <mailto:paulandtera%40att.net>> wrote:>> > > >>>> > > >> I'm enjoying reading all the comments about school. I homeschool>> > all>> > > >> mine.>> > > >> My Aspie (9DS) is doing above level Math and reads on

level >> but we>> > > hit>> > > >> the>> > > >> brakes when it comes to writing and spelling. He can't spell to>> > save>> > > his>> > > >> life and because of that, he doesn't write. We're trying>> > keyboarding,>> > > >> but so>> > > >> far, Spell check can't figure out what he's trying to say >> either J>> > I>> > > >> think>> > > >> we'll try Dragon Speak next.>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> Anyway, I was fascinated to see that so many of you said 7th, and>> > one>> > > >> even>> > > >> said 10th, grade is hard. What age is that? Just want to make a>>

> > mental>> > > >> note>> > > >> to prepare myself!>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> , I really appreciate your insightful and well thought out>> > > >> comments.>> > > >> Thank you for being such a good moderator.>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> Tera>> > > >>>> > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>