Guest guest Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I don't come forward and just tell people that my son has Asperger's, however, in just a short time they will know that he is 'different'. I find it hard to believe that neurotypical peers of 15 don't realize your son is different. Perhaps their parents have spoken to them? If he isn't socially and/or emotionally different than other 15 year olds, then either he's received incredible social skills training, or he isn't Asperger's after all? I don't think there is a stigma with it...times have definitely changed. My son is 16, my daughter is 14, and her friends think her brother is 'cute' and want to socialize with him...however he doesn't feel comfortable with his ability to deal with girls on that level yet. When he does mature to that level...the world is his oyster! In a message dated 11/22/2010 1:03:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jb91604@... writes: I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their peers? My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it necessary to tell the parents. Only his closest friends. No matter how hard we try there is still a stigma attatched. -Son B 15,ASP Starting 10th grd in Sept I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with this. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Most of my son's friends know. I suspect the whole school probably knows (it's only a small school). It seems to be only new teachers who don't find out. One teacher knew there was a Ben in yr 10 with AS and ADHD so he was making allowances for him - but it was the wrong Ben. We were pleased - it showed our Ben was making enough of an effort not to stand out by his behaviour. Not sure what the other Ben's parents would have thought. I think it depends on the circumstances. In our case it was very obvious to everyone that Ben was different when he was in Prep, so getting a diagnosis in Gr 1 explained his behaviour. The kids seem to be more willing to make allowances for him than some of the teachers. So many parents and teachers I have talked to have family members who have ASD of some sort, or know other kids who have it, so it isn't much of a problem. It's probably a better diagnosis to have than ADHD, as the media still regularly questions the reality od ADHD. I don't tell strangers - no reason to - but for people who interact with my son regularly it has proven to be helpful for them to know. On 23/11/2010 4:22 AM, jennifer wrote:  I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their peers? My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it necessary to tell the parents. Only his closest friends. No matter how hard we try there is still a stigma attatched. -Son B 15,ASP Starting 10th grd in Sept I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with this. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Just reflecting on the term " Aspie " here.... I find myself using it sometimes too, although I don't usually use " cutesy " words. Why do I do that? I think the fact that we can casually say " Aspie " reflects a high level of societal acceptance --an understanding of Aperger's that wasn't present until recently. It's almost " trendy " to have Asperger's right now, and I think using the casual " Aspie " instead of the more serious " child with Asperger's " reflects that. --MMS On 11/22/2010 1:43 PM, jcoopalla@... wrote: > I don't come forward and just tell people that my son has Asperger's, > however, in just a short time they will know that he is 'different'. I find it > hard to believe that neurotypical peers of 15 don't realize your son is > different. Perhaps their parents have spoken to them? If he isn't socially > and/or emotionally different than other 15 year olds, then either he's received > incredible social skills training, or he isn't Asperger's after all? I > don't think there is a stigma with it...times have definitely changed. My son > is 16, my daughter is 14, and her friends think her brother is 'cute' and > want to socialize with him...however he doesn't feel comfortable with his > ability to deal with girls on that level yet. When he does mature to that > level...the world is his oyster! > > > In a message dated 11/22/2010 1:03:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > jb91604@... writes: > > > > > I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another > question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have > aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their peers? > My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it > necessary to tell the parents. Only his closest friends. No matter how hard we > try there is still a stigma attatched. > > -Son B 15,ASP Starting 10th grd in Sept > > > > > > I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes > great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find > it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be > right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a > person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with > this. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I dislike the term as well and never use it. I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with this. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 My son is different but he's been in school with the same kids since kindergarten and he's now in grade 8. So I think the kids just accept him because he's always been like that. I have talked to some parents though, to make sure they understand why he does some of the odd things he does! So I think is probably right, the kids probably don't realize there's something wrong or different. It seems adults are more apt to notice and point out differences anyway. Estevan, SK Canada -- Re: The term "Aspie" I don't come forward and just tell people that my son has Asperger's, however, in just a short time they will know that he is 'different'. I find it hard to believe that neurotypical peers of 15 don't realize your son is different. Perhaps their parents have spoken to them? If he isn't socially and/or emotionally different than other 15 year olds, then either he's received incredible social skills training, or he isn't Asperger's after all? I don't think there is a stigma with it...times have definitely changed. My son is 16, my daughter is 14, and her friends think her brother is 'cute' and want to socialize with him...however he doesn't feel comfortable with his ability to deal with girls on that level yet. When he does mature to that level...the world is his oyster! In a message dated 11/22/2010 1:03:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jb91604@... writes: I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their peers? My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it necessary to tell the parents. Only his closest friends. No matter how hard we try there is still a stigma attatched. -Son B 15,ASP Starting 10th grd in Sept I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with this. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I think we all need to respect each others opinions. I think everyone can call their children what they please. i personaly do not get offended by the word " aspie " . I have met teenage kids calling themselfs that. If they perfer to say " aspie " than " Asperger syndrome " so be it. At the end of the day if its " aspie " or " aspergers " these children are so beautiful and unique and were blessed to have them in our lifes. Re: Re: Need help helping my friend- > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:43 PM > > > > I was neither defending, nor condoning the usage of the label, merely > expressing my understanding of it's origin. > > I tend to define my son as " " , not " My aspie kid " , although at times > I've used the phrase (when discussing his actions vs his neurotypical > twin). But he has Aspergers--but Aspergers doesn't have him. He has it just as > h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I agree. I think that aspergers is accepted in society today - at least in most places. Kids with AS seem to be fairly open about it with their friends. On 23/11/2010 9:40 AM, Seeley wrote:  Just reflecting on the term "Aspie" here.... I find myself using it sometimes too, although I don't usually use "cutesy" words. Why do I do that? I think the fact that we can casually say "Aspie" reflects a high level of societal acceptance --an understanding of Aperger's that wasn't present until recently. It's almost "trendy" to have Asperger's right now, and I think using the casual "Aspie" instead of the more serious "child with Asperger's" reflects that. --MMS On 11/22/2010 1:43 PM, jcoopalla@... wrote: > I don't come forward and just tell people that my son has Asperger's, > however, in just a short time they will know that he is 'different'. I find it > hard to believe that neurotypical peers of 15 don't realize your son is > different. Perhaps their parents have spoken to them? If he isn't socially > and/or emotionally different than other 15 year olds, then either he's received > incredible social skills training, or he isn't Asperger's after all? I > don't think there is a stigma with it...times have definitely changed. My son > is 16, my daughter is 14, and her friends think her brother is 'cute' and > want to socialize with him...however he doesn't feel comfortable with his > ability to deal with girls on that level yet. When he does mature to that > level...the world is his oyster! > > > In a message dated 11/22/2010 1:03:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > jb91604@... writes: > > > > > I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another > question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have > aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their peers? > My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it > necessary to tell the parents. Only his closest friends. No matter how hard we > try there is still a stigma attatched. > > -Son B 15,ASP Starting 10th grd in Sept > > > > > > I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes > great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find > it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be > right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a > person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with > this. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 "Trendy" shoes or bags, but not our children...I'm just saying...anyone else like to comment?Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: Seeley <mmseeley@...>Sender: Autism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:40:08 -0800<Autism and Aspergers Treatment >Reply Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: The term "Aspie" Just reflecting on the term " Aspie " here.... I find myself using it sometimes too, although I don't usuallyuse " cutesy " words. Why do I do that?I think the fact that we can casually say " Aspie " reflects a high level of societal acceptance --an understandingof Aperger's that wasn't present until recently. It's almost " trendy " to have Asperger's right now, and I thinkusing the casual " Aspie " instead of the more serious " child with Asperger's " reflects that.--MMSOn 11/22/2010 1:43 PM, jcoopalla@... wrote:> I don't come forward and just tell people that my son has Asperger's,> however, in just a short time they will know that he is 'different'. I find it> hard to believe that neurotypical peers of 15 don't realize your son is> different. Perhaps their parents have spoken to them? If he isn't socially> and/or emotionally different than other 15 year olds, then either he's received> incredible social skills training, or he isn't Asperger's after all? I> don't think there is a stigma with it...times have definitely changed. My son> is 16, my daughter is 14, and her friends think her brother is 'cute' and> want to socialize with him...however he doesn't feel comfortable with his> ability to deal with girls on that level yet. When he does mature to that> level...the world is his oyster!>>> In a message dated 11/22/2010 1:03:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,> jb91604@... writes:>>>>> I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another> question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have> aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their peers?> My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it> necessary to tell the parents. Only his closest friends. No matter how hard we> try there is still a stigma attatched.>> -Son B 15,ASP Starting 10th grd in Sept>>> >>> I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes> great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find> it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be> right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a> person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with> this. Any thoughts?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Perhaps " trendy " was the wrong word. But I can't tell you how many " autism awareness " bumper stickers I see here in LA. This was not the case 10 years ago. I'm not sure what a better word would be--- I was referring to a lack of stigma attached to autism--- surely a good thing. On 11/22/2010 8:55 PM, amandaakp@... wrote: > " Trendy " shoes or bags, but not our children...I'm just saying...anyone else like to comment? > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > Re: The term " Aspie " > > Just reflecting on the term " Aspie " here.... I find myself using it > sometimes too, although I don't usually > use " cutesy " words. Why do I do that? > > I think the fact that we can casually say " Aspie " reflects a high level > of societal acceptance --an understanding > of Aperger's that wasn't present until recently. It's almost " trendy " > to have Asperger's right now, and I think > using the casual " Aspie " instead of the more serious " child with > Asperger's " reflects that. > > --MMS > > > > On 11/22/2010 1:43 PM, jcoopalla@... wrote: > >> I don't come forward and just tell people that my son has Asperger's, >> however, in just a short time they will know that he is 'different'. I find it >> hard to believe that neurotypical peers of 15 don't realize your son is >> different. Perhaps their parents have spoken to them? If he isn't socially >> and/or emotionally different than other 15 year olds, then either he's received >> incredible social skills training, or he isn't Asperger's after all? I >> don't think there is a stigma with it...times have definitely changed. My son >> is 16, my daughter is 14, and her friends think her brother is 'cute' and >> want to socialize with him...however he doesn't feel comfortable with his >> ability to deal with girls on that level yet. When he does mature to that >> level...the world is his oyster! >> >> >> In a message dated 11/22/2010 1:03:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> jb91604@... writes: >> >> >> >> >> I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another >> question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have >> aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their peers? >> My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it >> necessary to tell the parents. Only his closest friends. No matter how hard we >> try there is still a stigma attatched. >> >> -Son B 15,ASP Starting 10th grd in Sept >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes >> great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find >> it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be >> right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a >> person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with >> this. Any thoughts? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I’m not opposed to saying “Aspie” however, anytime I speak to someone about Aspergers they have no clue exactly what it is, I first explain. So to say the word “aspie” would be all to confusing. I think it’s a perfect time to fill someone in on what exactly it is. That aspergers doesn’t mean what they thought it meant. From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of amandaakp@... Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:55 PM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: The term " Aspie " " Trendy " shoes or bags, but not our children...I'm just saying...anyone else like to comment? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® From: Seeley <mmseeley@...> Sender: Autism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:40:08 -0800 <Autism and Aspergers Treatment > ReplyAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: The term " Aspie " Just reflecting on the term " Aspie " here.... I find myself using it sometimes too, although I don't usually use " cutesy " words. Why do I do that? I think the fact that we can casually say " Aspie " reflects a high level of societal acceptance --an understanding of Aperger's that wasn't present until recently. It's almost " trendy " to have Asperger's right now, and I think using the casual " Aspie " instead of the more serious " child with Asperger's " reflects that. --MMS On 11/22/2010 1:43 PM, jcoopalla@... wrote: > I don't come forward and just tell people that my son has Asperger's, > however, in just a short time they will know that he is 'different'. I find it > hard to believe that neurotypical peers of 15 don't realize your son is > different. Perhaps their parents have spoken to them? If he isn't socially > and/or emotionally different than other 15 year olds, then either he's received > incredible social skills training, or he isn't Asperger's after all? I > don't think there is a stigma with it...times have definitely changed. My son > is 16, my daughter is 14, and her friends think her brother is 'cute' and > want to socialize with him...however he doesn't feel comfortable with his > ability to deal with girls on that level yet. When he does mature to that > level...the world is his oyster! > > > In a message dated 11/22/2010 1:03:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > jb91604@... writes: > > > > > I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another > question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have > aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their peers? > My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it > necessary to tell the parents. Only his closest friends. No matter how hard we > try there is still a stigma attatched. > > -Son B 15,ASP Starting 10th grd in Sept > > > > > > I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes > great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find > it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be > right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a > person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with > this. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I'm all for raising awareness and acceptance and understanding.My Personal Favorite? "Autism is not a processing disorder, it is just a different operating system". MarilynFrom: Seeley <mmseeley@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 12:20:46 AMSubject: Re: The term "Aspie" Perhaps "trendy" was the wrong word. But I can't tell you how many "autism awareness" bumper stickers I see here in LA. This was not the case 10 years ago. I'm not sure what a better word would be--- I was referring to a lack of stigma attached to autism--- surely a good thing. On 11/22/2010 8:55 PM, amandaakp@... wrote: > "Trendy" shoes or bags, but not our children...I'm just saying...anyone else like to comment? > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > Re: The term "Aspie" > > Just reflecting on the term "Aspie" here.... I find myself using it > sometimes too, although I don't usually > use "cutesy" words. Why do I do that? > > I think the fact that we can casually say "Aspie" reflects a high level > of societal acceptance --an understanding > of Aperger's that wasn't present until recently. It's almost "trendy" > to have Asperger's right now, and I think > using the casual "Aspie" instead of the more serious "child with > Asperger's" reflects that. > > --MMS > > > > On 11/22/2010 1:43 PM, jcoopalla@... wrote: > >> I don't come forward and just tell people that my son has Asperger's, >> however, in just a short time they will know that he is 'different'. I find it >> hard to believe that neurotypical peers of 15 don't realize your son is >> different. Perhaps their parents have spoken to them? If he isn't socially >> and/or emotionally different than other 15 year olds, then either he's received >> incredible social skills training, or he isn't Asperger's after all? I >> don't think there is a stigma with it...times have definitely changed. My son >> is 16, my daughter is 14, and her friends think her brother is 'cute' and >> want to socialize with him...however he doesn't feel comfortable with his >> ability to deal with girls on that level yet. When he does mature to that >> level...the world is his oyster! >> >> >> In a message dated 11/22/2010 1:03:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> jb91604@... writes: >> >> >> >> >> I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another >> question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have >> aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their peers? >> My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it >> necessary to tell the parents. Only his closest friends. No matter how hard we >> try there is still a stigma attatched. >> >> -Son B 15,ASP Starting 10th grd in Sept >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes >> great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find >> it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be >> right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a >> person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with >> this. Any thoughts? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I like that. I forwarded that quote on to my son. He will appreciate it if I don't kill him before he reads it. We are in the middle of one of our long term arguments. He has not written up any prac reports for science this semester. It seems he hasn't done any, because the teacher is a poor supervisor, so the boys come up with their own ideas of what to do. The teacher says he doesn't care if they did the pracs or not, just borrow someone else's reports and copy them. My son has refused to do that since grade 1, becasue he believes it is 'cheating'. His words were "I don't care what the teacher said. It doesn't make it right, and I'm not doing it." Apparently 12 kids out of a class of 22 are failing at the moment, including the 3 brightest kids in the class. I am still deciding whether to ask if Ben can do some other work instead of his prac reports. This is the last full week before the year ends, so I am reluctant to arrange for too much work because his exams are next Tues, and Wed. I wouldn't worry except that we are likely to be moving over the year end, and the new school will only have his marks to go on. At his current school it won't matter because they know how bright he is, and also how bad his teacher is. They are finally doing something about a couple of useless teachers, but it is too late for us. How do I persuade my son that cheating is OK if the teacher tells you to? On 23/11/2010 6:38 PM, marilyn wrote:  I'm all for raising awareness and acceptance and understanding. My Personal Favorite? "Autism is not a processing disorder, it is just a different operating system".  Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 i dont think cheating is ok, who ever tells you it is! it isnt, talk with the board re: classroom rules, teaching, how the class is being runned, i mean this is your sons education we are talking about! and teachers need to be taken into account what they are teaching, ---------- Sent via Telus My Email 2.0 - Re: The term " Aspie " I like that. I forwarded that quote on to my son. He will appreciate it if I don't kill him before he reads it. We are in the middle of one of our long term arguments. He has not written up any prac reports for science this semester. It seems he hasn't done any, because the teacher is a poor supervisor, so the boys come up with their own ideas of what to do. The teacher says he doesn't care if they did the pracs or not, just borrow someone else's reports and copy them. My son has refused to do that since grade 1, becasue he believes it is 'cheating'. His words were " I don't care what the teacher said. It doesn't make it right, and I'm not doing it. " Apparently 12 kids out of a class of 22 are failing at the moment, including the 3 brightest kids in the class. I am still deciding whether to ask if Ben can do some other work instead of his prac reports. This is the last full week before the year ends, so I am reluctant to arrange for too much work because his exams are next Tues, and Wed. I wouldn't worry except that we are likely to be moving over the year end, and the new school will only have his marks to go on. At his current school it won't matter because they know how bright he is, and also how bad his teacher is. They are finally doing something about a couple of useless teachers, but it is too late for us. How do I persuade my son that cheating is OK if the teacher tells you to? On 23/11/2010 6:38 PM, marilyn wrote: > I'm all for raising awareness and acceptance and understanding. > > My Personal Favorite? " Autism is not a processing disorder, it is just > a different operating system " . > Marilyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Don't you just love teachers like that? Grrrr! Obviously not all your childs fault!! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Riley <klriley@...>Sender: Autism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:56:20 +1100<Autism and Aspergers Treatment >Reply Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: The term "Aspie" I like that. I forwarded that quote on to my son. He will appreciate it if I don't kill him before he reads it. Weare in the middle of one of our long term arguments. He has notwritten up any prac reports for science this semester. It seems hehasn't done any, because the teacher is a poor supervisor, so theboys come up with their own ideas of what to do. The teacher sayshe doesn't care if they did the pracs or not, just borrow someoneelse's reports and copy them. My son has refused to do that sincegrade 1, becasue he believes it is 'cheating'. His words were "Idon't care what the teacher said. It doesn't make it right, and I'mnot doing it." Apparently 12 kids out of a class of 22 are failingat the moment, including the 3 brightest kids in the class. I amstill deciding whether to ask if Ben can do some other work insteadof his prac reports. This is the last full week before the yearends, so I am reluctant to arrange for too much work because hisexams are next Tues, and Wed. I wouldn't worry except that we are likely to bemoving over the year end, and the new school will only have hismarks to go on. At his current school it won't matter because theyknow how bright he is, and also how bad his teacher is. They arefinally doing something about a couple of useless teachers, but itis too late for us. How do I persuade my son that cheating is OK ifthe teacher tells you to?On 23/11/2010 6:38 PM, marilyn wrote: I'm all for raising awareness andacceptance and understanding.My Personal Favorite? "Autism is not a processingdisorder, it is just a different operating system".  Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I like it:) my niece sent me one the other day " For sucess in science and art,a dash of autism is essential " . Re: The term " Aspie " > > Just reflecting on the term " Aspie " here.... I find myself using it > sometimes too, although I don't usually > use " cutesy " words. Why do I do that? > > I think the fact that we can casually say " Aspie " reflects a high level > of societal acceptance --an understanding > of Aperger's that wasn't present until recently. It's almost " trendy " > to have Asperger's right now, and I think > using the casual " Aspie " instead of the more serious " child with > Asperger's " reflects that. > > --MMS > > > > On 11/22/2010 1:43 PM, jcoopalla@... wrote: > >> I don't come forward and just tell people that my son has Asperger's, >> however, in just a short time they will know that he is 'different'. I find it >> hard to believe that neurotypical peers of 15 don't realize your son is >> different. Perhaps their parents have spoken to them? If he isn't socially >> and/or emotionally different than other 15 year olds, then either he's >received >> incredible social skills training, or he isn't Asperger's after all? I >> don't think there is a stigma with it...times have definitely changed. My >son >> is 16, my daughter is 14, and her friends think her brother is 'cute' and >> want to socialize with him...however he doesn't feel comfortable with his >> ability to deal with girls on that level yet. When he does mature to that >> level...the world is his oyster! >> >> >> In a message dated 11/22/2010 1:03:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> jb91604@... writes: >> >> >> >> >> I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another >> question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have >> aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their >>peers? >> My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I do use the term Aspie, but only when on forums like this one or amongst people who have a child with autism. I find that most other people still don't know what Asperger's is and I still have to explain. I do like the term, however. It is affectionate and not demeaning, and doesn't dwell on a disability but a part of who that person is. Just my 2 pennies worth... Kiara From: "amandaakp@..." <amandaakp@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 10:55:19 PMSubject: Re: The term "Aspie" "Trendy" shoes or bags, but not our children...I'm just saying...anyone else like to comment? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® From: Seeley <mmseeley@...> Sender: Autism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:40:08 -0800 <Autism and Aspergers Treatment > ReplyAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: The term "Aspie" Just reflecting on the term "Aspie" here.... I find myself using it sometimes too, although I don't usuallyuse "cutesy" words. Why do I do that?I think the fact that we can casually say "Aspie" reflects a high level of societal acceptance --an understandingof Aperger's that wasn't present until recently. It's almost "trendy" to have Asperger's right now, and I thinkusing the casual "Aspie" instead of the more serious "child with Asperger's" reflects that.--MMSOn 11/22/2010 1:43 PM, jcoopalla@... wrote:> I don't come forward and just tell people that my son has Asperger's,> however, in just a short time they will know that he is 'different'. I find it> hard to believe that neurotypical peers of 15 don't realize your son is> different. Perhaps their parents have spoken to them? If he isn't socially> and/or emotionally different than other 15 year olds, then either he's received> incredible social skills training, or he isn't Asperger's after all? I> don't think there is a stigma with it...times have definitely changed. My son> is 16, my daughter is 14, and her friends think her brother is 'cute' and> want to socialize with him...however he doesn't feel comfortable with his> ability to deal with girls on that level yet. When he does mature to that> level...the world is his oyster!>>> In a message dated 11/22/2010 1:03:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,> jb91604@... writes:>>>>> I never use the term outside of this forum. but I'd like to raise another> question. Do you always tell people or friends that your kids have> aspergers? Do you think that it might affect their relationships with their peers?> My sons 15 and his friends really don't know but sometimes I feel it> necessary to tell the parents. Only his closest friends. No matter how hard we> try there is still a stigma attatched.>> -Son B 15,ASP Starting 10th grd in Sept>>> >>> I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but is it just me that takes> great offense when a child who has aspergers is called an aspie? I don't find> it cute at all. Our children are not defined solely by this! Would it be> right or correct to label a child with downs syndrome as a 'downie' or a> person with breast cancer a 'breastie'? I hope you see where I am going with> this. Any thoughts?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 , I can see my son saying the same thing--- he is scrupulously honest, but doesn't always get the nuances of the situation. It sounds like the teacher may just want some proof that the kids are learning something. If you talked to the teacher and explained why your son won't copy the reports, perhaps he would be satisfied with something else as proof that your son is learning. Maybe an oral summary of the report material? My son struggles with Asperger's and chronic fatigue syndrome, and his school recently offered us a compromise to keep him from dropping out: just show that he is learning something--- do one math problem, one Latin sentence, etc. --- just something to show that he knows the material. They know he is bright but simply can't keep up with the written assignments. ' Good luck-- On 11/23/2010 1:56 AM, Riley wrote: > I like that. I forwarded that quote on to my son. > > He will appreciate it if I don't kill him before he reads it. We are > in the middle of one of our long term arguments. He has not written > up any prac reports for science this semester. It seems he hasn't > done any, because the teacher is a poor supervisor, so the boys come > up with their own ideas of what to do. The teacher says he doesn't > care if they did the pracs or not, just borrow someone else's reports > and copy them. My son has refused to do that since grade 1, becasue > he believes it is 'cheating'. His words were " I don't care what the > teacher said. It doesn't make it right, and I'm not doing it. " > Apparently 12 kids out of a class of 22 are failing at the moment, > including the 3 brightest kids in the class. I am still deciding > whether to ask if Ben can do some other work instead of his prac > reports. This is the last full week before the year ends, so I am > reluctant to arrange for too much work because his exams are next > Tues, and Wed. I wouldn't worry except that we are likely to be > moving over the year end, and the new school will only have his marks > to go on. At his current school it won't matter because they know how > bright he is, and also how bad his teacher is. They are finally doing > something about a couple of useless teachers, but it is too late for > us. How do I persuade my son that cheating is OK if the teacher tells > you to? > > > > On 23/11/2010 6:38 PM, marilyn wrote: >> I'm all for raising awareness and acceptance and understanding. >> >> My Personal Favorite? " Autism is not a processing disorder, it is >> just a different operating system " . >> Marilyn >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 , Personally, In my humble opinion, I wouldn’t do a thing. This sounds just like my son! I think it’s awesome he doesn’t want to cheat! He is making a statement and it’s an honest one. Let him be creative and come up with something on his own. Since its so close to the end, I wouldn’t stress about it. Deb’s From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Riley Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:56 AM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: The term " Aspie " I like that. I forwarded that quote on to my son. He will appreciate it if I don't kill him before he reads it. We are in the middle of one of our long term arguments. He has not written up any prac reports for science this semester. It seems he hasn't done any, because the teacher is a poor supervisor, so the boys come up with their own ideas of what to do. The teacher says he doesn't care if they did the pracs or not, just borrow someone else's reports and copy them. My son has refused to do that since grade 1, becasue he believes it is 'cheating'. His words were " I don't care what the teacher said. It doesn't make it right, and I'm not doing it. " Apparently 12 kids out of a class of 22 are failing at the moment, including the 3 brightest kids in the class. I am still deciding whether to ask if Ben can do some other work instead of his prac reports. This is the last full week before the year ends, so I am reluctant to arrange for too much work because his exams are next Tues, and Wed. I wouldn't worry except that we are likely to be moving over the year end, and the new school will only have his marks to go on. At his current school it won't matter because they know how bright he is, and also how bad his teacher is. They are finally doing something about a couple of useless teachers, but it is too late for us. How do I persuade my son that cheating is OK if the teacher tells you to? On 23/11/2010 6:38 PM, marilyn wrote: I'm all for raising awareness and acceptance and understanding. My Personal Favorite? " Autism is not a processing disorder, it is just a different operating system " . Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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