Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Really great advice here! Thanks, Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: debshitchcock@...Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math” after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each. It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before” that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine! Debs From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JBSent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California, so the weather allows us to do this all year. Good luck. Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: cmurray326@...Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public Hi everyone:This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.Thanks, : )>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and > has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like > today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the > street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring > myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads > ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of > vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, > terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of > these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a > group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise > all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up > instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of > correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally > important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) > No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read > more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to > fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and > functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to > get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle > school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with > issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. > > > There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, > you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really > nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the > day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control > of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and > to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, > pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, > or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can > regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to > distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! > > > Kiara > > > > > ________________________________> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM> Subject: homeschool vs. public> >  > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for > this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and > math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now > after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades > for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being > disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when > he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was > a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may > have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle > of wills thing). > >     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is > still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing > to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to > be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He > will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one > with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.> > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive > myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I > pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He > acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on > the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he > wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why > does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated > and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of > those days.> > From a very frustrated mom.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 We prefer public school after early intervention (up to age 4) then Head Start- in public schools when the child turns 4. Here they learn routine and begin to interact with teachers and other peers. New videos/'s Window- We Are Reversing the Symptoms of Autism Using Natural Treatments. Seeing is believing!! www.brandonswindow.com " goes to "IKEA" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ig1lRmPhu4--- On Mon, 2/7/11, Lora JB <lorajjb@...> wrote: From: Lora JB <lorajjb@...>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. publicAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM Really great advice here! Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: debshitchcock@...Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each. It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine! Debs From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JBSent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California, so the weather allows us to do this all year. Good luck. Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: cmurray326@...Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public Hi everyone:This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.Thanks, : )>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and > has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like > today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the > street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring > myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads > ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of > vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, > terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of > these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a > group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise > all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up > instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of > correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally > important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) > No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read > more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to > fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and > functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to > get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle > school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with > issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. > > > There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, > you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really > nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the > day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control > of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and > to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, > pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, > or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can > regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to > distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! > > > Kiara > > > > > ________________________________> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM> Subject: homeschool vs. public> >  > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for > this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and > math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now > after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades > for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being > disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when > he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was > a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may > have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle > of wills thing). > >     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is > still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing > to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to > be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He > will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one > with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.> > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive > myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I > pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He > acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on > the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he > wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why > does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated > and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of > those days.> > From a very frustrated mom.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 When my son started school they did not do early intervention. Which is what our lawyer went after in early elementary. Eventually even after all the horrible things that happed at school we preferred public school because we were told that this is a real world situation and is what he needed. It’s the public. I know some home school’s have group meetings and social events. It was not our ideal place to be but for where we are we didn’t have much of a choice. It was basically home school, private or public. The private school’s I’ve checked into because I feel my son needs certain things that a public school cannot provide. I have struggled and struggled and fought to reach his needs. For the first time EVER this year he seems to be settled this is because the middle school (IMHO) has FINALLY gotten to know my son. It’s still not the ideal place but he will be going to high school next year (that I’m in fear of) but the fighting with the district has taken its toll on our family and thank god things worked out at least this year. Long story short, I took the district to court after moving from one district to get out of that district, we are staying here bought our home and did my homework with the schools here (We didn’t move out of state just county’s). I’m no longer running so I stayed to fight for my son’s federal rights. It was a horrible horrible situation that resulted in my son’s hospitalization. My son finally broke in fifth grade and I saw it coming, they blamed the parents. They played really dirty and believe it or not the director of special education lied several times under oath and the teachers did as well. We lost and I soon recognized it was impossible. I didn’t give up; I just didn’t have any other options. Finally this year they made some changes and he likes school and with better grades. To this day I still cannot believe the audacity the SPED director had let along the teachers, I was shocked! My son was a self taught reader somewhere around the age of four we discovered (accidently) him reading. From that point forward, I worked with him early on and to this day he loves reading. In elementary he was reading on college level so I know I’m dealing with a very bright child who has yet to reach his full potential because I believe his interest are his interest. If he’s not interested in the subject and is MADE to do something he despises it. For years we have to think outside the box. My son’s maturity level has sprung around age 11 he’s a total different kid now. Which is good but; he is still behind on of course social (which I know is the AS) and responsibilities that he should make on his own now. It’s such a huge struggle to work on this with him it makes me so drained. Since he’s been called lazy at school he believe he is lazy so he doesn’t put much effort into anything he isn’t interested in. We will have to start early planning for high school and hold IEP meetings and perhaps an individual visit to the HS for him to be familiar with his teachers and the environment. I just wished the responsibility would come along. As I said his interest are his, the computer he spends way to much time on and always has. He has asthma (just was in the hospital just before Thanksgiving) so he’s not a kid whose interested in any sports. Its hard! Deb’s From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 4:55 AM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public We prefer public school after early intervention (up to age 4) then Head Start- in public schools when the child turns 4. Here they learn routine and begin to interact with teachers and other peers. New videos/'s Window- We Are Reversing the Symptoms of Autism Using Natural Treatments. Seeing is believing!! www.brandonswindow.com " goes to " IKEA " From: Lora JB <lorajjb@...> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public Autism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM Really great advice here! Thanks, Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: debshitchcock@... Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600 Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math” after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each. It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before” that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine! Debs From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California, so the weather allows us to do this all year. Good luck. Thanks, Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: cmurray326@... Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000 Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public Hi everyone: This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar. Thanks, : ) > > I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and > has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like > today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the > street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring > myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads > ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of > vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, > terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of > these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a > group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise > all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up > instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of > correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally > important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) > No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read > more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to > fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and > functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to > get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle > school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with > issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. > > > There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, > you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really > nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the > day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control > of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and > to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, > pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, > or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can > regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to > distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! > > > Kiara > > > > > ________________________________ > From: <chadderboxesmom@...> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM > Subject: homeschool vs. public > >  > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for > this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and > math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now > after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades > for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being > disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when > he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was > a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may > have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle > of wills thing). > >     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is > still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C is continuing > to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to > be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He > will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one > with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet. > > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive > myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I > pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He > acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on > the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he > wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why > does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated > and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of > those days. > > From a very frustrated mom. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I'm just curious why you kept fighting vs. homeschooling him? It seems like it's been damaging to his self esteem (he thinks he's lazy) and also a huge expense and exausting effort. I don't have any fight left in me and my son is only 8. From: Deborah Hitchcock <debshitchcock@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 12:50:51 AMSubject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public When my son started school they did not do early intervention. Which is what our lawyer went after in early elementary. Eventually even after all the horrible things that happed at school we preferred public school because we were told that this is a real world situation and is what he needed. It’s the public. I know some home school’s have group meetings and social events. It was not our ideal place to be but for where we are we didn’t have much of a choice. It was basically home school, private or public. The private school’s I’ve checked into because I feel my son needs certain things that a public school cannot provide. I have struggled and struggled and fought to reach his needs. For the first time EVER this year he seems to be settled this is because the middle school (IMHO) has FINALLY gotten to know my son. It’s still not the ideal place but he will be going to high school next year (that I’m in fear of) but the fighting with the district has taken its toll on our family and thank god things worked out at least this year. Long story short, I took the district to court after moving from one district to get out of that district, we are staying here bought our home and did my homework with the schools here (We didn’t move out of state just county’s). I’m no longer running so I stayed to fight for my son’s federal rights. It was a horrible horrible situation that resulted in my son’s hospitalization. My son finally broke in fifth grade and I saw it coming, they blamed the parents. They played really dirty and believe it or not the director of special education lied several times under oath and the teachers did as well. We lost and I soon recognized it was impossible. I didn’t give up; I just didn’t have any other options. Finally this year they made some changes and he likes school and with better grades. To this day I still cannot believe the audacity the SPED director had let along the teachers, I was shocked! My son was a self taught reader somewhere around the age of four we discovered (accidently) him reading. From that point forward, I worked with him early on and to this day he loves reading. In elementary he was reading on college level so I know I’m dealing with a very bright child who has yet to reach his full potential because I believe his interest are his interest. If he’s not interested in the subject and is MADE to do something he despises it. For years we have to think outside the box. My son’s maturity level has sprung around age 11 he’s a total different kid now. Which is good but; he is still behind on of course social (which I know is the AS) and responsibilities that he should make on his own now. It’s such a huge struggle to work on this with him it makes me so drained. Since he’s been called lazy at school he believe he is lazy so he doesn’t put much effort into anything he isn’t interested in. We will have to start early planning for high school and hold IEP meetings and perhaps an individual visit to the HS for him to be familiar with his teachers and the environment. I just wished the responsibility would come along. As I said his interest are his, the computer he spends way to much time on and always has. He has asthma (just was in the hospital just before Thanksgiving) so he’s not a kid whose interested in any sports. Its hard! Deb’s From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 4:55 AMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public We prefer public school after early intervention (up to age 4) then Head Start- in public schools when the child turns 4. Here they learn routine and begin to interact with teachers and other peers. New videos/'s Window- We Are Reversing the Symptoms of Autism Using Natural Treatments. Seeing is believing!! www.brandonswindow.com " goes to "IKEA" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ig1lRmPhu4--- On Mon, 2/7/11, Lora JB <lorajjb@...> wrote: From: Lora JB <lorajjb@...>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. publicAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM Really great advice here! Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: debshitchcock@...Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each. It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine! Debs From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JBSent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. Good luck. Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: cmurray326@...Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public Hi everyone:This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.Thanks, : )>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and > has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like > today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the > street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring > myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads > ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of > vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, > terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of > these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a > group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise > all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up > instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of > correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally > important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) > No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read > more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to > fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and > functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to > get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle > school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with > issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. > > > There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, > you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really > nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the > day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control > of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and > to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, > pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, > or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can > regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to > distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! > > > Kiara > > > > > ________________________________> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM> Subject: homeschool vs. public> >  > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for > this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and > math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now > after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades > for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being > disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when > he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was > a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may > have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle > of wills thing). > >     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is > still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing > to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to > be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He > will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one > with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.> > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive > myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I > pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He > acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on > the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he > wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why > does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated > and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of > those days.> > From a very frustrated mom.> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I would say to homeschool him thru an online charter school. It will bring peace to yr family. It also drains funds from your public school district. I did it when the special ed coordinator did similar things to us. It got her goat in the long run. The money for my childs education moved thru her fingers to the charter school to pay for textbooks and computer. The online school wasfree to us. It brought peace to us. " R. Tucker " <srt12780@...> wrote: >I'm just curious why you kept fighting vs. homeschooling him? It seems like >it's been damaging to his self esteem (he thinks he's lazy) and also a huge >expense and exausting effort. I don't have any fight left in me and my son is >only 8. > > > > > > >________________________________ >From: Deborah Hitchcock <debshitchcock@...> >Autism and Aspergers Treatment >Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 12:50:51 AM >Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > > >When my son started school they did not do early intervention. Which is what our >lawyer went after in early elementary. Eventually even after all the horrible >things that happed at school we preferred public school because we were told >that this is a real world situation and is what he needed. It’s the public. I >know some home school’s have group meetings and social events. It was not our >ideal place to be but for where we are we didn’t have much of a choice. It was >basically home school, private or public. The private school’s I’ve checked into >because I feel my son needs certain things that a public school cannot provide. >I have struggled and struggled and fought to reach his needs. For the first time >EVER this year he seems to be settled this is because the middle school (IMHO) >has FINALLY gotten to know my son. It’s still not the ideal place but he will be >going to high school next year (that I’m in fear of) but the fighting with the >district has taken its toll on our family and thank god things worked out at >least this year. > > >Long story short, I took the district to court after moving from one district to >get out of that district, we are staying here bought our home and did my >homework with the schools here (We didn’t move out of state just county’s). I’m >no longer running so I stayed to fight for my son’s federal rights. It was a >horrible horrible situation that resulted in my son’s hospitalization. My son >finally broke in fifth grade and I saw it coming, they blamed the parents. They >played really dirty and believe it or not the director of special education lied >several times under oath and the teachers did as well. We lost and I soon >recognized it was impossible. I didn’t give up; I just didn’t have any other >options. Finally this year they made some changes and he likes school and with >better grades. To this day I still cannot believe the audacity the SPED director >had let along the teachers, I was shocked! > >My son was a self taught reader somewhere around the age of four we discovered >(accidently) him reading. From that point forward, I worked with him early on >and to this day he loves reading. In elementary he was reading on college level >so I know I’m dealing with a very bright child who has yet to reach his full >potential because I believe his interest are his interest. If he’s not >interested in the subject and is MADE to do something he despises it. For years >we have to think outside the box. My son’s maturity level has sprung around age >11 he’s a total different kid now. Which is good but; he is still behind on of >course social (which I know is the AS) and responsibilities that he should make >on his own now. It’s such a huge struggle to work on this with him it makes me >so drained. > > Since he’s been called lazy at school he believe he is lazy so he doesn’t put >much effort into anything he isn’t interested in.   We will have to start early >planning for high school and hold IEP meetings and perhaps an individual visit >to the HS for him to be familiar with his teachers and the environment. I just >wished the responsibility would come along. As I said his interest are his, the >computer he spends way to much time on and always has. He has asthma (just was >in the hospital just before Thanksgiving) so he’s not a kid whose interested in >any sports. Its hard! >Deb’s > > >________________________________ > >From:Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment >] On Behalf Of Lynne >Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 4:55 AM >Autism and Aspergers Treatment >Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > > >We prefer public school after early intervention (up to age 4) then Head Start- >in public schools when the child turns 4. Here they learn routine and begin to >interact with teachers and other peers. > > >New videos/'s Window- We Are Reversing the Symptoms of Autism Using >Natural Treatments. >Seeing is believing!! www.brandonswindow.com > " goes to " IKEA " > > > > > > >>From: Lora JB <lorajjb@...> >>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public >>Autism and Aspergers Treatment >>Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM >> >>Really great advice here! >> >>Thanks, >>Lora >> >> >________________________________ > >>Autism and Aspergers Treatment >>From: debshitchcock@... >>Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600 >>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public >> >> >>Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re >>parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most >>definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and >>with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if >>they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing >>the work then the headphones/gum are taken away.  Once they do a small amount of >>problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. >> >> >>In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can >>swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. >>Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or >>bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these >>movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and >>hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and >>watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them >>with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let >>them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting >>their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee >>table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds >>on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big >>movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with >>allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! >> >>A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to >>get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine >>like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and >>continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline >>etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being >>told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do >>our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then >>do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a >>distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk >>with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of >>the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would >>stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it >>was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age >>difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older >>one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the >>bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not >>understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. >>Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this >>period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see >>if I wanted to do this for them each. >> >>It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I >>realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†>>that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to >>a routine! >>Debs >> >> >________________________________ > >>From:Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment >>] On Behalf Of Lora JB >>Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM >>Autism and Aspergers Treatment >>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public >> >> >>What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead >>of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second >>and third session later in the day.  If you normally do an hour of math a day, >>just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always >>possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with >>Aspergers.  I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than >>other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside.  I don't >>know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for >>my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in >>Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. >> >>Good luck. >> >>Thanks, >>Lora >> >> >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >>From: cmurray326@... >>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000 >>Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public >> >> >>Hi everyone: >>This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth >>grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in >>school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well >>in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and >>all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the >>one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just >>not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. >>He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned >>Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar. >>Thanks, : ) >> >> >>> >>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 >>>and >>> >>> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days >>>(like >>> >>> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the >>> >>> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring >>> >>> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads > >>> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of >>> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, >>> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of > >>> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in >>>a >>> >>> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to >>>supervise >>> >>> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up > >>> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of >>> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally >>> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. >>>4) >>> >>> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read >> >>> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to >>> >>> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and >>> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her >>>to >>> >>> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is >>>middle >>> >>> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with > >>> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. > >>> >>> >>> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, >> >>> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really > >>> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of >>>the >>> >>> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in >>>control >>> >>> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and >>> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, >>> >>> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, >>> >>> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they >>>can >>> >>> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to >>> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! >>> >>> >>> Kiara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: <chadderboxesmom@...> >>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >>> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM >>> Subject: homeschool vs. public >>> >>>  >>> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason >>>for >>> >>> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading >>>and >>> >>> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. >>>Now >>> >>> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter >>>grades >>> >>> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being > >>> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out >>>when >>> >>> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school >>> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it >>>was >>> >>> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may >>> >>> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along >>>(battle >>> >>> of wills thing). >>> >>>     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he >>>is >>> >>> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C is continuing >>> >>> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears >>>to >>> >>> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. >>>He >>> >>> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one >> >>> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will >>> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very >>>sweet. >>> >>> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive >>> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a >>>curriculum? I >>> >>> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He >>> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on >> >>> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he >>> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why >> >>> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated >>> >>> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE >>>SO >>> >>> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of >>> >>> those days. >>> >>> From a very frustrated mom. >>> >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________________\ _____ >We won't tell. 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I am drained, exhausted, disappointed, and everything else. We have had to kick and scream for every single service. Middle school was a dream. I thought I could breath for the first time. Then High School hit but so did the bad economy so we pulled him. I guess it all depends on where you live. I totally agree with Public school teaching our kids to deal with the public. Unfortunately the "Public" at our school wasn't a good environment. Our son works and deals with the public 3 times a week. He works hard and feels great about himself. -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan. From: Lora JB <lorajjb@...>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. publicAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM Really great advice here! Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: debshitchcock@...Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each. It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine! Debs From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JBSent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. Good luck. Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: cmurray326@...Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public Hi everyone:This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.Thanks, : )>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and > has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like > today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the > street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring > myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads > ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of > vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, > terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of > these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a > group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise > all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up > instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of > correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally > important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) > No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read > more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to > fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and > functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to > get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle > school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with > issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. > > > There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, > you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really > nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the > day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control > of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and > to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, > pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, > or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can > regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to > distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! > > > Kiara > > > > > ________________________________> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM> Subject: homeschool vs. public> >  > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for > this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and > math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now > after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades > for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being > disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when > he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was > a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may > have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle > of wills thing). > >     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is > still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing > to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to > be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He > will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one > with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.> > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive > myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I > pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He > acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on > the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he > wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why > does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated > and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of > those days.> > From a very frustrated mom.> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 My impression is that the public schools vary widely depending on where you live. When my 14 year old son was little and should have been diagnosed and treated, we seemed to have very few options from the public school system. As a result, he fell through the cracks at a time when he should have been getting speech therapy, OT and all sorts of things that would have made a difference in his life. By the time my (now) 5 year old son needed services, we had moved and he was able to get speech, OT, and other help through the district. I wised up, learned the system better and was able to get early intervention services for my dyspraxic 2 year old. My experiences with the public school system have almost all been positive. Despite budget cuts here in California, the individuals involved have helped me work with the system to get what I need. I think our area just happens to be pretty good. That being said, I still plan to homeschool my kindergartner next year. But I'm happy that the public school system gave him a little boost when he needed it. And if I homeschool through a public charter school or my district's homestead program, I can still get speech and OT for him. On 2/9/2011 11:47 AM, jennifer wrote: > I am drained, exhausted, disappointed, and everything else. We have had to kick and scream for every single service. Middle school was a dream. I thought I could breath for the first time. Then High School hit but so did the bad economy so we pulled him. I guess it all depends on where you live. I totally agree with Public school teaching our kids to deal with the public. Unfortunately the " Public " at our school wasn't a good environment. Our son works and deals with the public 3 times a week. He works hard and feels great about himself. > > > -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan. > > > > > From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM > > > > > Really great advice here! > > Thanks, > Lora > > > > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: debshitchcock@... > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600 > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > > Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. > > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it > restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! > > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good > quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each. > > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine! > Debs > > > > > > From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. > > Good luck. > > Thanks, > Lora > > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: cmurray326@... > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000 > Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > Hi everyone: > This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar. > Thanks, : ) > > > >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and >> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like >> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the >> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring >> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads >> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of >> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, >> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of >> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a >> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise >> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up >> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of >> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally >> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) >> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read >> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to >> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and >> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to >> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle >> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with >> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. >> >> >> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, >> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really >> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the >> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control >> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and >> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, >> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, >> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can >> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to >> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! >> >> >> Kiara >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: <chadderboxesmom@...> >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM >> Subject: homeschool vs. public >> >>  >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for >> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and >> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now >> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades >> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being >> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when >> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school >> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was >> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may >> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle >> of wills thing). >> >>     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is >> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C is continuing >> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to >> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He >> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one >> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will >> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet. >> >> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive >> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I >> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He >> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on >> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he >> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why >> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated >> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO >> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of >> those days. >> >> From a very frustrated mom. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I think we would be better to discuss what is best for each child, rather than discussing whether home-schooling is better than public schools or private schools. Within about 10 minutes by bus we have a choice of about 6 public high schools, and 5 private high schools (1 Catholic, 3 Christian denominational, one generic Christian). If we are willing for our kids to travel up to 30 minutes, we could easily increase the number of private schools to about 15, including a Steiner school (although some are way out of our reach financially). Some of both categories are great schools, some aren't. I know quite a few parents who have one or two kids at my son's school (a Christian denominational school) who also have a kid or two at other schools, sometimes public, sometimes private. There is a lot more emphasis on finding a school that fits each kid. I think that is the way to go. My sister and brother-in-law (Baptists) send their daughter to a Catholic school becasue it is the best choice for her. When she started school, their preference was for a Baptist-run school, then a generic Protestant school, then a public school (he was a teacher in the public high school), then they were willing to look at a Catholic school if they had to. Having looked at each (except the Baptist school - the nearest turned out to be over 300km away) they decided that the Catholic school was the best option. My niece loved the school. When they moved 3 years later, they went through the same process with the same result. My niece (7 at the time) was very impressed that she had 2 boyfriends by the end of her first week of school  I have cousins (who are Catholic) who pulled their kids out of the local Catholic school because "the school was hell, but badly run" (apparently hell is well run - who would have thought it? ). There was no discipline, many of the teachers seemed not to care about the kids or teaching them. Bullying was rife and never dealt with. Parents could never get answers to their questions - half the time the principal was 'absent' when anyone wanted to see her. I think increasingly all parents, not just those with 'special needs' kids are having to ask "which is the best school (or non-school) for *this* kid?" rather than simply "which is the best school" and sending all their kids there. On 10/02/2011 9:24 AM, Seeley wrote:  My impression is that the public schools vary widely depending on where you live. When my 14 year old son was little and should have been diagnosed and treated, we seemed to have very few options from the public school system. As a result, he fell through the cracks at a time when he should have been getting speech therapy, OT and all sorts of things that would have made a difference in his life. By the time my (now) 5 year old son needed services, we had moved and he was able to get speech, OT, and other help through the district. I wised up, learned the system better and was able to get early intervention services for my dyspraxic 2 year old. My experiences with the public school system have almost all been positive. Despite budget cuts here in California, the individuals involved have helped me work with the system to get what I need. I think our area just happens to be pretty good. That being said, I still plan to homeschool my kindergartner next year. But I'm happy that the public school system gave him a little boost when he needed it. And if I homeschool through a public charter school or my district's homestead program, I can still get speech and OT for him. On 2/9/2011 11:47 AM, jennifer wrote: > I am drained, exhausted, disappointed, and everything else. We have had to kick and scream for every single service. Middle school was a dream. I thought I could breath for the first time. Then High School hit but so did the bad economy so we pulled him. I guess it all depends on where you live. I totally agree with Public school teaching our kids to deal with the public. Unfortunately the "Public" at our school wasn't a good environment. Our son works and deals with the public 3 times a week. He works hard and feels great about himself. > > > -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan. > > > > > From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM > > > > > Really great advice here! > > Thanks, > Lora > > > > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: debshitchcock@... > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600 > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > > Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. > > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it > restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! > > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good > quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each. > > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine! > Debs > > > > > > From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. > > Good luck. > > Thanks, > Lora > > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: cmurray326@... > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000 > Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > Hi everyone: > This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar. > Thanks, : ) > > > >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and >> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like >> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the >> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring >> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads >> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of >> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, >> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of >> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a >> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise >> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up >> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of >> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally >> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) >> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read >> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to >> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and >> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to >> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle >> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with >> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. >> >> >> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, >> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really >> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the >> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control >> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and >> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, >> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, >> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can >> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to >> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! >> >> >> Kiara >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: <chadderboxesmom@...> >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM >> Subject: homeschool vs. public >> >>  >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for >> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and >> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now >> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades >> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being >> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when >> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school >> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was >> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may >> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle >> of wills thing). >> >>     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is >> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing >> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to >> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He >> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one >> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will >> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet. >> >> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive >> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I >> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He >> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on >> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he >> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why >> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated >> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO >> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of >> those days. >> >> From a very frustrated mom. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I think you're right, . Having children with various different challenges definitely inclines one to look at each child's individual needs when it comes to schooling. I started off with the mindset that homeschool was simply best for my children.... then I had children.... and they were all vastly different in their learning style and challenges. I had to adjust my mindset a bit, and currently have 2 in private school, 2 in homeschool, and one in public school. That is a hilarious comment--- " the school was hell, but badly run. " LOL! On 2/9/2011 3:00 PM, Riley wrote: > I think we would be better to discuss what is best for each child, > rather than discussing whether home-schooling is better than public > schools or private schools. Within about 10 minutes by bus we have a > choice of about 6 public high schools, and 5 private high schools (1 > Catholic, 3 Christian denominational, one generic Christian). If we > are willing for our kids to travel up to 30 minutes, we could easily > increase the number of private schools to about 15, including a > Steiner school (although some are way out of our reach financially). > Some of both categories are great schools, some aren't. I know quite > a few parents who have one or two kids at my son's school (a Christian > denominational school) who also have a kid or two at other schools, > sometimes public, sometimes private. There is a lot more emphasis on > finding a school that fits each kid. I think that is the way to go. > My sister and brother-in-law (Baptists) send their daughter to a > Catholic school becasue it is the best choice for her. When she > started school, their preference was for a Baptist-run school, then a > generic Protestant school, then a public school (he was a teacher in > the public high school), then they were willing to look at a Catholic > school if they had to. Having looked at each (except the Baptist > school - the nearest turned out to be over 300km away) they decided > that the Catholic school was the best option. My niece loved the > school. When they moved 3 years later, they went through the same > process with the same result. My niece (7 at the time) was very > impressed that she had 2 boyfriends by the end of her first week of > school I have cousins (who are Catholic) who pulled their kids out > of the local Catholic school because " the school was hell, but badly > run " (apparently hell is well run - who would have thought it? ). > There was no discipline, many of the teachers seemed not to care about > the kids or teaching them. Bullying was rife and never dealt with. > Parents could never get answers to their questions - half the time the > principal was 'absent' when anyone wanted to see her. I think > increasingly all parents, not just those with 'special needs' kids are > having to ask " which is the best school (or non-school) for *this* > kid? " rather than simply " which is the best school " and sending all > their kids there. > > > > On 10/02/2011 9:24 AM, Seeley wrote: >> >> My impression is that the public schools vary widely depending on where >> you live. When my 14 year old son was little and should have been >> diagnosed and treated, we seemed to have very few options from the >> public school system. As a result, >> he fell through the cracks at a time when he should have been getting >> speech therapy, OT and all sorts of things that would have made a >> difference in his life. By the time my (now) 5 year old son needed >> services, we had moved and he was able to get >> speech, OT, and other help through the district. I wised up, learned >> the system better and was able to get early intervention services for my >> dyspraxic 2 year old. My experiences with the public school system >> have almost all been positive. Despite >> budget cuts here in California, the individuals involved have helped me >> work with the system to get what I need. I think our area just >> happens to be pretty good. >> >> That being said, I still plan to homeschool my kindergartner next >> year. But I'm happy that the public school system gave him a little >> boost when he needed it. And if I homeschool through a public charter >> school or my district's homestead program, I can still >> get speech and OT for him. >> >> On 2/9/2011 11:47 AM, jennifer wrote: >> > I am drained, exhausted, disappointed, and everything else. We have >> had to kick and scream for every single service. Middle school was a >> dream. I thought I could breath for the first time. Then High School >> hit but so did the bad economy so we pulled him. I guess it all >> depends on where you live. I totally agree with Public school >> teaching our kids to deal with the public. Unfortunately the " Public " >> at our school wasn't a good environment. Our son works and deals with >> the public 3 times a week. He works hard and feels great about himself. >> > >> > >> > -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Lora JB<lorajjb@... <mailto:lorajjb%40hotmail.com>> >> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public >> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> >> > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Really great advice here! >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Lora >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> >> > From: debshitchcock@... <mailto:debshitchcock%40gmail.com> >> > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600 >> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no >> for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An >> ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child >> choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music >> player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work >> but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work >> then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount >> of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. >> > >> > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so >> that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and >> watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their >> way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason >> being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their >> concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without >> you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. >> Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate >> them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids >> with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can >> roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. >> You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. >> The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce >> if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and >> write it >> > restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them >> to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! >> > >> > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be >> willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you >> have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for >> me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) >> walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something >> to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their >> schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do >> our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for >> math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and >> watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the >> child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games >> along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the >> way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. >> They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides >> it was good >> > quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big >> age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller >> one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This >> is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. >> Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the >> things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found >> it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was >> trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do >> this for them each. >> > >> > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was >> before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise >> program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may >> help. If you do this stick to a routine! >> > Debs >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> [mailto: >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> ] On Behalf Of Lora JB >> > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM >> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> >> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small >> doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with >> five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you >> normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three >> 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps >> my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm >> homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. >> The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't >> know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is >> easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. >> Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to >> do this all year. >> > >> > Good luck. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Lora >> > >> > >> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> >> > From: cmurray326@... <mailto:cmurray326%40bellsouth.net> >> > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000 >> > Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi everyone: >> > This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has >> been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound >> familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little >> behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but >> falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think >> about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one >> problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is >> just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he >> gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little >> but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds >> familiar. >> > Thanks, : ) >> > >> > >> > >> >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My >> daughter is 10 and >> >> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. >> Some days (like >> >> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send >> her down the >> >> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just >> can't bring >> >> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very >> bright, reads >> >> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent >> use of >> >> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else >> uses them, >> >> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address >> each one of >> >> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to >> get lost in a >> >> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being >> able to supervise >> >> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help >> build her up >> >> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy >> examples of >> >> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so >> it's vitally >> >> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive >> behavior. 4) >> >> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, >> but I've read >> >> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for >> not having to >> >> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so >> NT and >> >> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a >> battle for her to >> >> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, >> which is middle >> >> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for >> dealing with >> >> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's >> safer at home. >> >> >> >> >> >> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. >> My point is, >> >> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it >> sounds really >> >> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at >> the end of the >> >> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be >> fully in control >> >> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see >> them, and >> >> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, >> curriculum, >> >> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around >> between subjects, >> >> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your >> classroom, and they can >> >> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other >> children to >> >> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not >> easy! >> >> >> >> >> >> Kiara >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: <chadderboxesmom@...> >> >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> >> >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM >> >> Subject: homeschool vs. public >> >> >> >>  >> >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. >> The reason for >> >> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level >> on reading and >> >> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with >> autism. Now >> >> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have >> letter grades >> >> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he >> was being >> >> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let >> him veg out when >> >> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after >> school >> >> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we >> decided that it was >> >> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought >> that it may >> >> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get >> along (battle >> >> of wills thing). >> >> >> >>     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said >> earlier, he is >> >> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C >> is continuing >> >> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. >> He appears to >> >> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY >> schoolwork. He >> >> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work >> one on one >> >> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. >> We will >> >> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & >> very sweet. >> >> >> >> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never >> forgive >> >> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a >> curriculum? I >> >> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or >> there. He >> >> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he >> wants to find on >> >> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find >> the one he >> >> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the >> deal? Why >> >> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, >> I'm frustrated >> >> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS >> HAVE TO BE SO >> >> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is >> just not one of >> >> those days. >> >> >> >> From a very frustrated mom. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 , can I ask you what online charter school you are using? We are going to Due Process court hearing in 2 weeks. My son WANTS to be around other students and the school did many procedural violations including cutting my signature off a document that I signed and pasted it on another "summary" document that had boxes checked that I would not have agreed to, writing an IEP without parents included, etc. School wants to move my son to a segregated SCHOOL where everyone at the school has a disability ranging from severe cog. disability, FASD, EBD, in addition to those dealing with drug and alcohol issues and those coming from juvenile justice system. There are no "typical" peers in this school. We have considered the online school but feel that schools need to be held accountable. My son has been getting 5 hours of "homebound" instruction since Sept. The school feels they did nothing wrong...however has recently provided us with a "settlement offer" because we have proof of the forgery and the documentation shows they did not follow the law. Still, we continue to have online school as our fall back if the judge somehow feels that the segregated school is the only place for him. We are asking for 1/2 days in typical school and 1/2 days in the segregated school since they work on "skills" there. It is a draining process to fight a school district but if everyone lets the schools railroad kids that need more attention out. I do like the idea that the home school district has to pay for the online school. Aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I would have loved to have a choice of public schools. Private school isn't an option for us. As big as our city is there are more kids than schools so there is a map. No one is allowed to go to a public school outside their boundaries even in the same district. To do so you have to show proof of employment. We had 1 elementary, 1 middle and 1 high school. We have had awesome teachers and terrible teachers. The only reason we are using a charter school is because of the 50 plus class size. Our son got totally lost in the crowd because he just couldn't speak up and ask for what he needed. He only has another year and a half and then he can choose whatever school he wishes. -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan.>>> From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...>> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM>> >>> Really great advice here!> > Thanks,> Lora> >>>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: debshitchcock@...> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public>> >>>>> Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.> > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it> restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!> > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good> quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each.> > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine!> Debs> >>>>> From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public> > >>>> What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. > > Good luck.> > Thanks,> Lora> > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: cmurray326@...> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000> Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public>> >>>> Hi everyone:> This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.> Thanks, : )>> > >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and>> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like>> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the>> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring>> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads>> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of>> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them,>> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of>> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a>> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise>> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up>> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of>> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally>> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4)>> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read>> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to>> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and>> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to>> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle>> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with>> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home.>>>>>> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is,>> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really>> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the>> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control>> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and>> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum,>> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects,>> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can>> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to>> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! >>>>>> Kiara >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________>> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM>> Subject: homeschool vs. public>>>>  >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for>> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and>> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now>> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades>> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being>> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when>> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school>> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was>> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may>> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle>> of wills thing). >>>>     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is>> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing>> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to>> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He>> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one>> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will>> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.>>>> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive>> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I>> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He>> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on>> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he>> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why>> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated>> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO>> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of>> those days.>>>> From a very frustrated mom.>>>> > > >>>>>>>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 We are limited a little for public schools. If they are at capacity, then priority goes to local students. But anyone with 'special needs' can usually choose virtually any school. The only limitation is that you may not get subsidised travel if you go past a school from the same system (public/denomination/etc) that was able to accomodate your child. In public high schools, classes officially can't go past 30 (32?) kids. Most private schools try to keep classes at about 20-25 kids. The largest class my son has been in at highschool is 22, most were smaller. Now he is in year 11, half his classes are only 5-8 kids. Our public schools are run by each state, so there are no school districts as such. You have an allocated school that is oblidged to take your child, based on distance from home to school by the shortest viable route, but you can apply at others. Unfortunately, some parents still find themselves in the position of having no good public options for their kid. On 10/02/2011 11:17 AM, jennifer wrote:  I would have loved to have a choice of public schools. Private school isn't an option for us. As big as our city is there are more kids than schools so there is a map. No one is allowed to go to a public school outside their boundaries even in the same district. To do so you have to show proof of employment. We had 1 elementary, 1 middle and 1 high school. We have had awesome teachers and terrible teachers. The only reason we are using a charter school is because of the 50 plus class size. Our son got totally lost in the crowd because he just couldn't speak up and ask for what he needed. He only has another year and a half and then he can choose whatever school he wishes. -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan. > > > From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM > > > > > Really great advice here! > > Thanks, > Lora > > > > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: debshitchcock@... > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600 > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > > Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. > > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it > restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! > > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good > quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each. > > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine! > Debs > > > > > > From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. > > Good luck. > > Thanks, > Lora > > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: cmurray326@... > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000 > Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > Hi everyone: > This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar. > Thanks, : ) > > > >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and >> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like >> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the >> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring >> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads >> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of >> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, >> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of >> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a >> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise >> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up >> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of >> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally >> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) >> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read >> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to >> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and >> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to >> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle >> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with >> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. >> >> >> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, >> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really >> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the >> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control >> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and >> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, >> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, >> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can >> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to >> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! >> >> >> Kiara >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: <chadderboxesmom@...> >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM >> Subject: homeschool vs. public >> >>  >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for >> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and >> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now >> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades >> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being >> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when >> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school >> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was >> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may >> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle >> of wills thing). >> >>     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is >> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing >> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to >> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He >> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one >> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will >> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet. >> >> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive >> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I >> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He >> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on >> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he >> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why >> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated >> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO >> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of >> those days. >> >> From a very frustrated mom. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 That's awesome .small class sizes, We finally settled on a private magnet school. He goes for instruction 2 days a week,Tues and Thur. Tues he gets instruction from the gen ed teacher and the resource teacher (His IEP went with him). He gets all of his work for the week, packets of subjects. 2 subjects at a time so he isn't overwhelmed.He does the work at home and can call, email or skype the teacher if he has questions (He can only skype if he calls ahead to make sure the teacher isn't busy). On Thur he goes in for testing providing he's finished the packets. The tests are only given one subject at a time. He can go at his own speed which is great. He hasn't gotten below a B since he's been there. He's completed English, Math, and History. He will complete Art History,science and PE. That will be it for the year. It's year round so he doesn't have to wait till Sept to advance. He can go strait to 11th grd. He will for sure graduate early with all his credits. There will be a cap and gown ceremony, He doesn't want anything to do with it. I told him if he doesn't do it I'm putting on that cap and gown and making the walk myself. I would never say this to him but he has no idea what goes on behind the scenes to make sure he has a successful year.He thinks it's all him. So the ceremony is for ME!! -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan.>>> From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...>> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM>> >>> Really great advice here!> > Thanks,> Lora> >>>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: debshitchcock@...> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public>> >>>>> Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.> > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it> restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!> > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good> quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each.> > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine!> Debs> >>>>> From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public> > >>>> What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. > > Good luck.> > Thanks,> Lora> > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: cmurray326@...> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000> Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public>> >>>> Hi everyone:> This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.> Thanks, : )>> > >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and>> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like>> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the>> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring>> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads>> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of>> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them,>> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of>> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a>> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise>> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up>> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of>> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally>> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4)>> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read>> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to>> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and>> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to>> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle>> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with>> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home.>>>>>> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is,>> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really>> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the>> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control>> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and>> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum,>> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects,>> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can>> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to>> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! >>>>>> Kiara >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________>> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM>> Subject: homeschool vs. public>>>>  >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for>> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and>> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now>> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades>> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being>> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when>> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school>> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was>> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may>> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle>> of wills thing). >>>>     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is>> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing>> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to>> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He>> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one>> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will>> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.>>>> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive>> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I>> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He>> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on>> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he>> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why>> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated>> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO>> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of>> those days.>>>> From a very frustrated mom.>>>> > > >>>>>>>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I agree. I think we all have seen what works and what is optional in our areas. Deb’s From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Seeley Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 5:31 PM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: Re: homeschool vs. public I think you're right, . Having children with various different challenges definitely inclines one to look at each child's individual needs when it comes to schooling. I started off with the mindset that homeschool was simply best for my children.... then I had children.... and they were all vastly different in their learning style and challenges. I had to adjust my mindset a bit, and currently have 2 in private school, 2 in homeschool, and one in public school. That is a hilarious comment--- " the school was hell, but badly run. " LOL! On 2/9/2011 3:00 PM, Riley wrote: > I think we would be better to discuss what is best for each child, > rather than discussing whether home-schooling is better than public > schools or private schools. Within about 10 minutes by bus we have a > choice of about 6 public high schools, and 5 private high schools (1 > Catholic, 3 Christian denominational, one generic Christian). If we > are willing for our kids to travel up to 30 minutes, we could easily > increase the number of private schools to about 15, including a > Steiner school (although some are way out of our reach financially). > Some of both categories are great schools, some aren't. I know quite > a few parents who have one or two kids at my son's school (a Christian > denominational school) who also have a kid or two at other schools, > sometimes public, sometimes private. There is a lot more emphasis on > finding a school that fits each kid. I think that is the way to go. > My sister and brother-in-law (Baptists) send their daughter to a > Catholic school becasue it is the best choice for her. When she > started school, their preference was for a Baptist-run school, then a > generic Protestant school, then a public school (he was a teacher in > the public high school), then they were willing to look at a Catholic > school if they had to. Having looked at each (except the Baptist > school - the nearest turned out to be over 300km away) they decided > that the Catholic school was the best option. My niece loved the > school. When they moved 3 years later, they went through the same > process with the same result. My niece (7 at the time) was very > impressed that she had 2 boyfriends by the end of her first week of > school I have cousins (who are Catholic) who pulled their kids out > of the local Catholic school because " the school was hell, but badly > run " (apparently hell is well run - who would have thought it? ). > There was no discipline, many of the teachers seemed not to care about > the kids or teaching them. Bullying was rife and never dealt with. > Parents could never get answers to their questions - half the time the > principal was 'absent' when anyone wanted to see her. I think > increasingly all parents, not just those with 'special needs' kids are > having to ask " which is the best school (or non-school) for *this* > kid? " rather than simply " which is the best school " and sending all > their kids there. > > > > On 10/02/2011 9:24 AM, Seeley wrote: >> >> My impression is that the public schools vary widely depending on where >> you live. When my 14 year old son was little and should have been >> diagnosed and treated, we seemed to have very few options from the >> public school system. As a result, >> he fell through the cracks at a time when he should have been getting >> speech therapy, OT and all sorts of things that would have made a >> difference in his life. By the time my (now) 5 year old son needed >> services, we had moved and he was able to get >> speech, OT, and other help through the district. I wised up, learned >> the system better and was able to get early intervention services for my >> dyspraxic 2 year old. My experiences with the public school system >> have almost all been positive. Despite >> budget cuts here in California, the individuals involved have helped me >> work with the system to get what I need. I think our area just >> happens to be pretty good. >> >> That being said, I still plan to homeschool my kindergartner next >> year. But I'm happy that the public school system gave him a little >> boost when he needed it. And if I homeschool through a public charter >> school or my district's homestead program, I can still >> get speech and OT for him. >> >> On 2/9/2011 11:47 AM, jennifer wrote: >> > I am drained, exhausted, disappointed, and everything else. We have >> had to kick and scream for every single service. Middle school was a >> dream. I thought I could breath for the first time. Then High School >> hit but so did the bad economy so we pulled him. I guess it all >> depends on where you live. I totally agree with Public school >> teaching our kids to deal with the public. Unfortunately the " Public " >> at our school wasn't a good environment. Our son works and deals with >> the public 3 times a week. He works hard and feels great about himself. >> > >> > >> > -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Lora JB<lorajjb@... <mailto:lorajjb%40hotmail.com>> >> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public >> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> >> > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Really great advice here! >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Lora >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> >> > From: debshitchcock@... <mailto:debshitchcock%40gmail.com> >> > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600 >> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no >> for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An >> ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child >> choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music >> player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work >> but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work >> then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount >> of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. >> > >> > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so >> that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and >> watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their >> way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason >> being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their >> concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without >> you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. >> Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate >> them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids >> with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can >> roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. >> You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. >> The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce >> if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and >> write it >> > restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them >> to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! >> > >> > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be >> willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you >> have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for >> me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) >> walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something >> to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their >> schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do >> our math” after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for >> math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and >> watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the >> child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games >> along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the >> way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. >> They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides >> it was good >> > quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big >> age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller >> one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This >> is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. >> Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the >> things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found >> it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was >> trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do >> this for them each. >> > >> > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was >> before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise >> program “before” that tough subject that’s been so hard before may >> help. If you do this stick to a routine! >> > Debs >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> [mailto: >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> ] On Behalf Of Lora JB >> > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM >> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> >> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small >> doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with >> five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you >> normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three >> 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps >> my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm >> homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. >> The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't >> know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is >> easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. >> Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to >> do this all year. >> > >> > Good luck. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Lora >> > >> > >> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> >> > From: cmurray326@... <mailto:cmurray326%40bellsouth.net> >> > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000 >> > Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi everyone: >> > This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has >> been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound >> familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little >> behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but >> falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think >> about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one >> problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is >> just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he >> gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little >> but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds >> familiar. >> > Thanks, : ) >> > >> > >> > >> >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My >> daughter is 10 and >> >> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. >> Some days (like >> >> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send >> her down the >> >> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just >> can't bring >> >> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very >> bright, reads >> >> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent >> use of >> >> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else >> uses them, >> >> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address >> each one of >> >> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to >> get lost in a >> >> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being >> able to supervise >> >> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help >> build her up >> >> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy >> examples of >> >> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so >> it's vitally >> >> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive >> behavior. 4) >> >> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, >> but I've read >> >> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for >> not having to >> >> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so >> NT and >> >> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a >> battle for her to >> >> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, >> which is middle >> >> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for >> dealing with >> >> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's >> safer at home. >> >> >> >> >> >> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. >> My point is, >> >> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it >> sounds really >> >> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at >> the end of the >> >> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be >> fully in control >> >> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see >> them, and >> >> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, >> curriculum, >> >> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around >> between subjects, >> >> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your >> classroom, and they can >> >> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other >> children to >> >> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not >> easy! >> >> >> >> >> >> Kiara >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: <chadderboxesmom@...> >> >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> >> >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM >> >> Subject: homeschool vs. public >> >> >> >>  >> >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. >> The reason for >> >> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level >> on reading and >> >> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with >> autism. Now >> >> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have >> letter grades >> >> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he >> was being >> >> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let >> him veg out when >> >> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after >> school >> >> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we >> decided that it was >> >> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought >> that it may >> >> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get >> along (battle >> >> of wills thing). >> >> >> >>     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said >> earlier, he is >> >> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C >> is continuing >> >> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. >> He appears to >> >> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY >> schoolwork. He >> >> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work >> one on one >> >> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. >> We will >> >> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & >> very sweet. >> >> >> >> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never >> forgive >> >> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a >> curriculum? I >> >> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or >> there. He >> >> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he >> wants to find on >> >> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find >> the one he >> >> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the >> deal? Why >> >> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, >> I'm frustrated >> >> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS >> HAVE TO BE SO >> >> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is >> just not one of >> >> those days. >> >> >> >> From a very frustrated mom. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I sure do wish this would happen in our state! Debs From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Riley Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:00 PM Autism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: Re: homeschool vs. public We are limited a little for public schools. If they are at capacity, then priority goes to local students. But anyone with 'special needs' can usually choose virtually any school. The only limitation is that you may not get subsidised travel if you go past a school from the same system (public/denomination/etc) that was able to accomodate your child. In public high schools, classes officially can't go past 30 (32?) kids. Most private schools try to keep classes at about 20-25 kids. The largest class my son has been in at highschool is 22, most were smaller. Now he is in year 11, half his classes are only 5-8 kids. Our public schools are run by each state, so there are no school districts as such. You have an allocated school that is oblidged to take your child, based on distance from home to school by the shortest viable route, but you can apply at others. Unfortunately, some parents still find themselves in the position of having no good public options for their kid. On 10/02/2011 11:17 AM, jennifer wrote: I would have loved to have a choice of public schools. Private school isn't an option for us. As big as our city is there are more kids than schools so there is a map. No one is allowed to go to a public school outside their boundaries even in the same district. To do so you have to show proof of employment. We had 1 elementary, 1 middle and 1 high school. We have had awesome teachers and terrible teachers. The only reason we are using a charter school is because of the 50 plus class size. Our son got totally lost in the crowd because he just couldn't speak up and ask for what he needed. He only has another year and a half and then he can choose whatever school he wishes. -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan. > > > From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM > > > > > Really great advice here! > > Thanks, > Lora > > > > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: debshitchcock@... > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600 > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > > Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc. > > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it > restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right! > > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math” after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good > quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each. > > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before” that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine! > Debs > > > > > > From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. > > Good luck. > > Thanks, > Lora > > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: cmurray326@... > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000 > Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public > > > > > > Hi everyone: > This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar. > Thanks, : ) > > > >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and >> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like >> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the >> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring >> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads >> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of >> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, >> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of >> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a >> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise >> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up >> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of >> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally >> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) >> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read >> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to >> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and >> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to >> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle >> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with >> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. >> >> >> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, >> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really >> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the >> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control >> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and >> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, >> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, >> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can >> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to >> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! >> >> >> Kiara >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: <chadderboxesmom@...> >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM >> Subject: homeschool vs. public >> >>  >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for >> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and >> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now >> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades >> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being >> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when >> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school >> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was >> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may >> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle >> of wills thing). >> >>     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is >> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C is continuing >> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to >> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He >> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one >> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will >> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet. >> >> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive >> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I >> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He >> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on >> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he >> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why >> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated >> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO >> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of >> those days. >> >> From a very frustrated mom. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I do think that an important factor to consider re: the public school question is the issue of prosopagnosia. From anecdotal evidence it does appear that although not every child with face recognition deficit is on the spectrum, there are many kids on the spectrum who have prosopagnosia...This can make " the social piece " in school pretty challenging. As a teacher and also a prosopagnosic (though I am not on the spectrum), I do think that it is important that if a typical school situation is chosen for the child, adults find ways in which to offer identity info to the child. Author of Understanding Facial Recognition Difficulties in Children (publisher: Kingsley Press) > > > > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The > > reason for this is because report cards came out again and he is below > > level on reading and math. My son is in a room specifically designed > > for children with autism. Now after seeing his S/N report card (he's > > in first so they don't have letter grades for that level yet). I was > > told they were pushed at school and he was being disagreeable with > > them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when he got > > here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided > > that it was a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also > > thought that it may have something to do with the fact that he and > > teacher may not get along (battle of wills thing). > > Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he > > is still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C > > is continuing to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is > > unresponsive. He appears to be more calm in the afternoon, but has > > _NO_ interest in doing _ANY_ schoolwork. He will sometimes respond > > verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one with him > > everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > > continue to work w/ him. When he _does_ respond, he is very bright & > > very sweet.:-) > > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never > > forgive myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations > > on a curriculum? I pulled out one of his level K readers and he read > > a word here or there. He acted like he didn't know how to read, yet > > if it something he wants to find on the internet to watch he can read > > through lists of words to find the one he wants, but can't read words > > like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why does this have to be > > such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated and it just > > ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just > > not one of those days. > > From a very frustrated mom. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Thanks for that thought, however, in my son's case he recognizes each person in his life. He may not remember their name, but he knows them just the same. I can see how this could make an educational situation more difficult. Re: homeschool vs. public I do think that an important factor to consider re: the public school question is the issue of prosopagnosia. From anecdotal evidence it does appear that although not every child with face recognition deficit is on the spectrum, there are many kids on the spectrum who have prosopagnosia...This can make "the social piece" in school pretty challenging. As a teacher and also a prosopagnosic (though I am not on the spectrum), I do think that it is important that if a typical school situation is chosen for the child, adults find ways in which to offer identity info to the child. Author of Understanding Facial Recognition Difficulties in Children (publisher: Kingsley Press) > > > > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The > > reason for this is because report cards came out again and he is below > > level on reading and math. My son is in a room specifically designed > > for children with autism. Now after seeing his S/N report card (he's > > in first so they don't have letter grades for that level yet). I was > > told they were pushed at school and he was being disagreeable with > > them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when he got > > here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided > > that it was a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also > > thought that it may have something to do with the fact that he and > > teacher may not get along (battle of wills thing). > > Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he > > is still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C > > is continuing to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is > > unresponsive. He appears to be more calm in the afternoon, but has > > _NO_ interest in doing _ANY_ schoolwork. He will sometimes respond > > verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one with him > > everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > > continue to work w/ him. When he _does_ respond, he is very bright & > > very sweet.:-) > > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never > > forgive myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations > > on a curriculum? I pulled out one of his level K readers and he read > > a word here or there. He acted like he didn't know how to read, yet > > if it something he wants to find on the internet to watch he can read > > through lists of words to find the one he wants, but can't read words > > like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why does this have to be > > such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated and it just > > ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just > > not one of those days. > > From a very frustrated mom. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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