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Really great advice here!

Thanks,

Lora

Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: debshitchcock@...Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.

In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!

A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math” after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each.

It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before” that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine!

Debs

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JBSent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California, so the weather allows us to do this all year. Good luck. Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: cmurray326@...Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

Hi everyone:This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.Thanks, : )>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and > has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like > today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the > street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring > myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads > ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of > vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, > terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of > these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a > group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise > all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up > instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of > correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally > important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) > No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read > more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to > fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and > functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to > get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle > school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with > issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. > > > There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, > you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really > nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the > day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control > of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and > to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, > pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, > or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can > regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to > distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! > > > Kiara > > > > > ________________________________> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM> Subject: homeschool vs. public> >  > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for > this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and > math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now > after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades > for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being > disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when > he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was > a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may > have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle > of wills thing). > >     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is > still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing > to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to > be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He > will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one > with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.> > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive > myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I > pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He > acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on > the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he > wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why > does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated > and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of > those days.> > From a very frustrated mom.>

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We prefer public school after early intervention (up to age 4) then Head Start- in public schools when the child turns 4. Here they learn routine and begin to interact with teachers and other peers.

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From: Lora JB <lorajjb@...>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. publicAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM

Really great advice here! Thanks,Lora

Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: debshitchcock@...Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.

In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls

allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!

A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did

this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each.

It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine!

Debs

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JBSent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California, so the weather allows us to do this all year. Good

luck. Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: cmurray326@...Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

Hi everyone:This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.Thanks, : )>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and > has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like > today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the > street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring > myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads > ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of > vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, > terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of > these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a

> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise > all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up > instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of > correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally > important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) > No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read > more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to > fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and > functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to > get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle > school in our

area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with > issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. > > > There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, > you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really > nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the > day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control > of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and > to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, > pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, > or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can > regulate

their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to > distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! > > > Kiara > > > > > ________________________________> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM> Subject: homeschool vs. public> >  > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for > this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and > math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now

> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades > for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being > disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when > he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was > a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may > have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle > of wills thing). > >     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is > still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing > to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is

unresponsive. He appears to > be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He > will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one > with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.> > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive > myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I > pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He > acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on > the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he > wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the

deal? Why > does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated > and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of > those days.> > From a very frustrated mom.>

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When my son started school they did not do

early intervention. Which is what our lawyer went after in early elementary.

Eventually even after all the horrible things that happed at school we preferred

public school because we were told that this is a real world situation and is

what he needed. It’s the public. I know some home school’s have

group meetings and social events. It was not our ideal place to be but for

where we are we didn’t have much of a choice. It was basically home

school, private or public. The private school’s I’ve checked into

because I feel my son needs certain things that a public school cannot provide.

I have struggled and struggled and fought to reach his needs. For the first

time EVER this year he seems to be settled this is because the middle school

(IMHO) has FINALLY gotten to know my son. It’s still not the ideal place

but he will be going to high school next year (that I’m in fear of) but

the fighting with the district has taken its toll on our family and thank god

things worked out at least this year.

Long story short, I took the district to

court after moving from one district to get out of that district, we are staying

here bought our home and did my homework with the schools here (We didn’t

move out of state just county’s). I’m no longer running so I stayed

to fight for my son’s federal rights. It was a horrible horrible

situation that resulted in my son’s hospitalization. My son finally broke

in fifth grade and I saw it coming, they blamed the parents. They played really

dirty and believe it or not the director of special education lied several

times under oath and the teachers did as well. We lost and I soon recognized it

was impossible. I didn’t give up; I just didn’t have any other

options. Finally this year they made some changes and he likes school and with

better grades. To this day I still cannot believe the audacity the SPED

director had let along the teachers, I was shocked!

My son was a self taught reader somewhere

around the age of four we discovered (accidently) him reading. From that point

forward, I worked with him early on and to this day he loves reading. In elementary

he was reading on college level so I know I’m dealing with a very bright

child who has yet to reach his full potential because I believe his interest

are his interest. If he’s not interested in the subject and is MADE to do

something he despises it. For years we have to think outside the box. My son’s

maturity level has sprung around age 11 he’s a total different kid now.

Which is good but; he is still behind on of course social (which I know is the

AS) and responsibilities that he should make on his own now. It’s such a

huge struggle to work on this with him it makes me so drained.

 Since he’s been called lazy at

school he believe he is lazy so he doesn’t put much effort into anything

he isn’t interested in.   We will have to start early planning for high

school and hold IEP meetings and perhaps an individual visit to the HS for him

to be familiar with his teachers and the environment. I just wished the

responsibility would come along. As I said his interest are his, the computer

he spends way to much time on and always has. He has asthma (just was in the

hospital just before Thanksgiving) so he’s not a kid whose interested in

any sports. Its hard!

Deb’s

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lynne

Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011

4:55 AM

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: RE:

Re: homeschool vs. public

We prefer public school after early intervention (up

to age 4) then Head Start- in public schools when the child turns 4.

Here they learn routine and begin to interact with teachers and other peers.

New videos/'s Window- We Are Reversing the

Symptoms of Autism Using Natural Treatments.

Seeing is believing!! www.brandonswindow.com

"

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From: Lora JB <lorajjb@...>

Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM

Really great advice here!

Thanks,

Lora

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

From: debshitchcock@...

Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600

Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

Music with headphones

and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting?

Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and

AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises

they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to

do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t

doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a

small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker

etc.

In addition to chewing

and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this

allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t

get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or

bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these

movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done

and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit

back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls?

Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were

kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can

roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may

need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows

them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to

(slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it restricts

them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same

time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!

A routine of exercise

before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the

props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even

though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing

this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc.,

it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told

their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will

do our math” after you return from exercise tell them it’s now

time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and

watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had

to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I

taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this

in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but

once we got going it worked. Besides it was good quality time with them. With

exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to

walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races

and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play

with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister

can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it

and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I

was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this

for them each.

It worked for us and

homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you

are Home School but perhaps an exercise program

“before” that tough subject that’s been so hard before may

help. If you do this stick to a routine!

Debs

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB

Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011

6:05 PM

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: RE:

Re: homeschool vs. public

What might help your son with math is to give it to

him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once;

start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the

day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up

into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible,

but it helps my son who has attention issues along with

Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days

are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the

work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at

a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at

his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern

California, so the weather allows us to do this all year.

Good luck.

Thanks,

Lora

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

From: cmurray326@...

Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000

Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

Hi everyone:

This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in

fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did

fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he

does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets

upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of

focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes

he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he

gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they

recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.

Thanks, : )

>

> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My

daughter is 10 and

> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge

struggle. Some days (like

> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her

down the

> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just

can't bring

> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright,

reads

> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of

> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses

them,

> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address

each one of

> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to

get lost in a

> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By

being able to supervise

> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build

her up

> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples

of

> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's

vitally

> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive

behavior. 4)

> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process,

but I've read

> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for

not having to

> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so

NTÂ and

> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle

for her to

> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th

grade, which is middle

> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known

for dealing with

> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at

home.

>

>

> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details.Â

My point is,

> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it

sounds really

> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at

the end of the

> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to

be fully in control

> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them,

and

> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up

styles, curriculum,

> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around

between subjects,

> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your

classroom, and they can

> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to

> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.)Â But it's not

easy!Â

>

>

> KiaraÂ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM

> Subject: homeschool vs. public

>

> Â

> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school.Â

The reason for

> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on

reading and

> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with

autism. Now

> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have

letter grades

> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he

was being

> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let

him veg out when

> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after

school

> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we

decided that it was

> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought

that it may

> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along

(battle

> of wills thing).Â

>

> Â Â Â Â Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card

and as I said earlier, he is

> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C

is continuing

> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive.Â

He appears to

> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY

schoolwork. He

> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work

one on one

> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate.Â

We will

> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright

& very sweet.

>

> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never

forgive

> myself for stopping in the first place)Â any recommendations on a

curriculum? I

> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or

there. He

> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to

find on

> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one

he

> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the

deal? Why

> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated,

I'm frustrated

> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS

HAVE TO BE SO

> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is

just not one of

> those days.

>

> From a very frustrated mom.

>

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I'm just curious why you kept fighting vs. homeschooling him? It seems like it's been damaging to his self esteem (he thinks he's lazy) and also a huge expense and exausting effort. I don't have any fight left in me and my son is only 8.

From: Deborah Hitchcock <debshitchcock@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 12:50:51 AMSubject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

When my son started school they did not do early intervention. Which is what our lawyer went after in early elementary. Eventually even after all the horrible things that happed at school we preferred public school because we were told that this is a real world situation and is what he needed. It’s the public. I know some home school’s have group meetings and social events. It was not our ideal place to be but for where we are we didn’t have much of a choice. It was basically home school, private or public. The private school’s I’ve checked into because I feel my son needs certain things that a public school cannot provide. I have struggled and struggled and fought to reach his needs. For the first time EVER this year he seems to be settled this is because the middle school (IMHO) has FINALLY gotten to know my son. It’s still

not the ideal place but he will be going to high school next year (that I’m in fear of) but the fighting with the district has taken its toll on our family and thank god things worked out at least this year.

Long story short, I took the district to court after moving from one district to get out of that district, we are staying here bought our home and did my homework with the schools here (We didn’t move out of state just county’s). I’m no longer running so I stayed to fight for my son’s federal rights. It was a horrible horrible situation that resulted in my son’s hospitalization. My son finally broke in fifth grade and I saw it coming, they blamed the parents. They played really dirty and believe it or not the director of special education lied several times under oath and the teachers did as well. We lost and I soon recognized it was impossible. I didn’t give up; I just didn’t have any other options. Finally this year they made some changes and he likes school and with better grades. To this day I still cannot believe the

audacity the SPED director had let along the teachers, I was shocked!

My son was a self taught reader somewhere around the age of four we discovered (accidently) him reading. From that point forward, I worked with him early on and to this day he loves reading. In elementary he was reading on college level so I know I’m dealing with a very bright child who has yet to reach his full potential because I believe his interest are his interest. If he’s not interested in the subject and is MADE to do something he despises it. For years we have to think outside the box. My son’s maturity level has sprung around age 11 he’s a total different kid now. Which is good but; he is still behind on of course social (which I know is the AS) and responsibilities that he should make on his own now. It’s such a huge struggle to work on this with him it makes me so drained.

Since he’s been called lazy at school he believe he is lazy so he doesn’t put much effort into anything he isn’t interested in. We will have to start early planning for high school and hold IEP meetings and perhaps an individual visit to the HS for him to be familiar with his teachers and the environment. I just wished the responsibility would come along. As I said his interest are his, the computer he spends way to much time on and always has. He has asthma (just was in the hospital just before Thanksgiving) so he’s not a kid whose interested in any sports. Its hard!

Deb’s

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 4:55 AMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

We prefer public school after early intervention (up to age 4) then Head Start- in public schools when the child turns 4. Here they learn routine and begin to interact with teachers and other peers.

New videos/'s Window- We Are Reversing the Symptoms of Autism Using Natural Treatments.

Seeing is believing!! www.brandonswindow.com

" goes to "IKEA"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ig1lRmPhu4--- On Mon, 2/7/11, Lora JB <lorajjb@...> wrote:

From: Lora JB <lorajjb@...>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. publicAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM

Really great advice here! Thanks,Lora

Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: debshitchcock@...Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.

In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls

allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!

A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did

this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each.

It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine!

Debs

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JBSent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. Good

luck. Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: cmurray326@...Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

Hi everyone:This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.Thanks, : )>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and > has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like > today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the > street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring > myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads > ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of > vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, > terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of > these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a > group environment.

2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise > all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up > instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of > correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally > important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) > No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read > more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to > fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and > functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to > get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle > school in our area.  Our local

middle school is well known for dealing with > issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. > > > There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, > you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really > nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the > day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control > of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and > to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, > pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, > or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can > regulate their environment better (no

flourescents, no other children to > distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! > > > Kiara > > > > > ________________________________> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM> Subject: homeschool vs. public> >  > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for > this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and > math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now > after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter

grades > for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being > disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when > he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was > a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may > have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle > of wills thing). > >     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is > still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing > to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to > be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO

interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He > will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one > with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.> > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive > myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I > pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He > acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on > the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he > wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why > does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's

frustrated, I'm frustrated > and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of > those days.> > From a very frustrated mom.>

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I would say to homeschool him thru an online charter school. It will bring peace

to yr family. It also drains funds from your public school district. I did it

when the special ed coordinator did similar things to us. It got her goat in the

long run. The money for my childs education moved thru her fingers to the

charter school to pay for textbooks and computer. The online school wasfree to

us. It brought peace to us.

" R. Tucker " <srt12780@...> wrote:

>I'm just curious why you kept fighting vs. homeschooling him?  It seems like

>it's been damaging to his self esteem (he thinks he's lazy) and also a huge

>expense and exausting effort.  I don't have any fight left in me and my son is

>only 8. 

>

> 

>

>

>

>

>________________________________

>From: Deborah Hitchcock <debshitchcock@...>

>Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 12:50:51 AM

>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>

> 

>When my son started school they did not do early intervention. Which is what

our

>lawyer went after in early elementary. Eventually even after all the horrible

>things that happed at school we preferred public school because we were told

>that this is a real world situation and is what he needed. It’s the public. I

>know some home school’s have group meetings and social events. It was not our

>ideal place to be but for where we are we didn’t have much of a choice. It

was

>basically home school, private or public. The private school’s I’ve checked

into

>because I feel my son needs certain things that a public school cannot provide.

>I have struggled and struggled and fought to reach his needs. For the first

time

>EVER this year he seems to be settled this is because the middle school (IMHO)

>has FINALLY gotten to know my son. It’s still not the ideal place but he will

be

>going to high school next year (that I’m in fear of) but the fighting with

the

>district has taken its toll on our family and thank god things worked out at

>least this year.

>

> 

>Long story short, I took the district to court after moving from one district

to

>get out of that district, we are staying here bought our home and did my

>homework with the schools here (We didn’t move out of state just county’s).

I’m

>no longer running so I stayed to fight for my son’s federal rights. It was a

>horrible horrible situation that resulted in my son’s hospitalization. My son

>finally broke in fifth grade and I saw it coming, they blamed the parents. They

>played really dirty and believe it or not the director of special education

lied

>several times under oath and the teachers did as well. We lost and I soon

>recognized it was impossible. I didn’t give up; I just didn’t have any

other

>options. Finally this year they made some changes and he likes school and with

>better grades. To this day I still cannot believe the audacity the SPED

director

>had let along the teachers, I was shocked!

> 

>My son was a self taught reader somewhere around the age of four we discovered

>(accidently) him reading. From that point forward, I worked with him early on

>and to this day he loves reading. In elementary he was reading on college level

>so I know I’m dealing with a very bright child who has yet to reach his full

>potential because I believe his interest are his interest. If he’s not

>interested in the subject and is MADE to do something he despises it. For years

>we have to think outside the box. My son’s maturity level has sprung around

age

>11 he’s a total different kid now. Which is good but; he is still behind on

of

>course social (which I know is the AS) and responsibilities that he should make

>on his own now. It’s such a huge struggle to work on this with him it makes

me

>so drained.

> 

> Since he’s been called lazy at school he believe he is lazy so he doesn’t

put

>much effort into anything he isn’t interested in.   We will have to start

early

>planning for high school and hold IEP meetings and perhaps an individual visit

>to the HS for him to be familiar with his teachers and the environment. I just

>wished the responsibility would come along. As I said his interest are his, the

>computer he spends way to much time on and always has. He has asthma (just was

>in the hospital just before Thanksgiving) so he’s not a kid whose interested

in

>any sports. Its hard!

>Deb’s

> 

>

>________________________________

>

>From:Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>] On Behalf Of Lynne

>Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 4:55 AM

>Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

> 

> 

>We prefer public school after early intervention (up to age 4) then Head Start-

>in public schools when the child turns 4.  Here they learn routine and begin

to

>interact with teachers and other peers.

>

> 

>New videos/'s Window- We Are Reversing the Symptoms of Autism Using

>Natural Treatments.

>Seeing is believing!!  www.brandonswindow.com

> " goes to " IKEA "

>

> 

>

>

>

>

>>From: Lora JB <lorajjb@...>

>>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>>Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>>Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM

>> 

>>Really great advice here!

>> 

>>Thanks,

>>Lora

>> 

>>

>________________________________

>

>>Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>>From: debshitchcock@...

>>Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600

>>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>>

>> 

>>Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re

>>parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most

>>definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and

>>with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose)

if

>>they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t

doing

>>the work then the headphones/gum are taken away.  Once they do a small amount

of

>>problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.

>>

>> 

>>In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can

>>swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some

observation.

>>Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl

or

>>bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these

>>movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and

>>hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back

and

>>watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate

them

>>with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle?

Let

>>them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting

>>their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee

>>table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their

behinds

>>on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big

>>movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with

>>allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this

right!

>> 

>>A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to

>>get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine

>>like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and

>>continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on

trampoline

>>etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being

>>told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will

do

>>our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math.

Then

>>do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a

>>distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk

>>with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of

>>the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine

would

>>stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it

>>was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big

age

>>difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the

older

>>one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the

>>bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not

>>understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race.

>>Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this

>>period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to

see

>>if I wanted to do this for them each.

>> 

>>It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I

>>realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program

“beforeâ€

>>that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick

to

>>a routine!

>>Debs

>> 

>>

>________________________________

>

>>From:Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>>] On Behalf Of Lora JB

>>Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM

>>Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>> 

>> 

>>What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. 

Instead

>>of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a

second

>>and third session later in the day.  If you normally do an hour of math a

day,

>>just break it up into three 20-minute sessions.  I know this isn't always

>>possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with

>>Aspergers.  I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder

than

>>other.  The other thing that I do some days is take the work

outside.  I don't

>>know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is

easier for

>>my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table.  Luckily, I live in

>>Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. 

>> 

>>Good luck.

>> 

>>Thanks,

>>Lora

>> 

>> 

>>  Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>>From: cmurray326@...

>>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000

>>Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

>>

>> 

>>Hi everyone:

>>This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in

fifth

>>grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine

in

>>school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well

>>in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and

>>all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the

>>one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just

>>not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets

frustrated.

>>He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned

>>Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.

>>Thanks, : )

>>

>>

>>>

>>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis.  My daughter is

10

>>>and

>>>

>>> has Aspergers.  Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle.  Some

days

>>>(like

>>>

>>> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down

the

>>>

>>> street to the public school.  There are several reasons why I just can't

bring

>>>

>>> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright,

reads

>

>>> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of

>>> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them,

>>> terrified of math and is 2 years behind.  At home, I can address each one

of

>

>>> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get

lost in

>>>a

>>>

>>> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to

>>>supervise

>>>

>>> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her

up

>

>>> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of

>>> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally

>>> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive

behavior. 

>>>4)

>>>

>>> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've

read

>>

>>> more than my share of others experiences.  A lot can be said for not

having to

>>>

>>> fight for accomodations in a classroom.  My daughter can appear so

NT and

>>> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for

her

>>>to

>>>

>>> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which

is

>>>middle

>>>

>>> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing

with

>

>>> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at

home.

>

>>>

>>>

>>> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details.  My point

is,

>>

>>> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons.  On one hand, it sounds

really

>

>>> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end

of

>>>the

>>>

>>> day you still have to deal with the results.  It's nice to be fully in

>>>control

>>>

>>> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and

>>> to make accomodations where necessary.  You can switch up styles,

curriculum,

>>>

>>> pacing, methods, even location.  You can let them run around between

subjects,

>>>

>>> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and

they

>>>can

>>>

>>> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to

>>> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.)  But it's not

easy! 

>>>

>>>

>>> Kiara 

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ________________________________

>>> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>

>>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>>> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM

>>> Subject: homeschool vs. public

>>>

>>>  

>>> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school.  The

reason

>>>for

>>>

>>> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading

>>>and

>>>

>>> math.  My son is in a room specifically designed for children with

autism. 

>>>Now

>>>

>>> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter

>>>grades

>>>

>>> for that level yet).  I was told they were pushed at school and he was

being

>

>>> disagreeable with them.  So I decided to let up at home and let him veg

out

>>>when

>>>

>>> he got here.  Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school

>>> started).  The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that

it

>>>was

>>>

>>> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby.  I also thought that

it may

>>>

>>> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along

>>>(battle

>>>

>>> of wills thing). 

>>>

>>>      Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said

earlier, he

>>>is

>>>

>>> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C is

continuing

>>>

>>> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive.  He

appears

>>>to

>>>

>>> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY

schoolwork. 

>>>He

>>>

>>> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again.  We work one on

one

>>

>>> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate.  We will

>>> continue to work w/ him.  When he does respond, he is very bright & very

>>>sweet.

>>>

>>> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive

>>> myself for stopping in the first place)  any recommendations on a

>>>curriculum?  I

>>>

>>> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. 

He

>>> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find

on

>>

>>> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he

>>> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop?  Come on, what's the

deal?  Why

>>

>>> does this have to be such a fight constantly?  He's frustrated, I'm

frustrated

>>>

>>> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying.  WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO

BE

>>>SO

>>>

>>> HARD???  Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not

one of

>>>

>>> those days.

>>>

>>> From a very frustrated mom.

>>>

>> 

> 

>

>

>

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I am drained, exhausted, disappointed, and everything else. We have had to kick and scream for every single service. Middle school was a dream. I thought I could breath for the first time. Then High School hit but so did the bad economy so we pulled him. I guess it all depends on where you live. I totally agree with Public school teaching our kids to deal with the public. Unfortunately the "Public" at our school wasn't a good environment. Our son works and deals with the public 3 times a week. He works hard and feels great about himself.

-Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan.

From: Lora JB <lorajjb@...>Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. publicAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM

Really great advice here! Thanks,Lora

Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: debshitchcock@...Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.

In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls

allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!

A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did

this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each.

It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine!

Debs

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JBSent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. Good

luck. Thanks,Lora Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: cmurray326@...Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

Hi everyone:This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.Thanks, : )>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and > has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like > today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the > street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring > myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads > ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of > vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them, > terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of > these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a > group environment.

2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise > all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up > instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of > correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally > important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4) > No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read > more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to > fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and > functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to > get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is middle > school in our area.  Our local

middle school is well known for dealing with > issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home. > > > There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is, > you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really > nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the > day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control > of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and > to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum, > pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects, > or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can > regulate their environment better (no

flourescents, no other children to > distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! > > > Kiara > > > > > ________________________________> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM> Subject: homeschool vs. public> >  > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for > this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and > math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now > after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter

grades > for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being > disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when > he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was > a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may > have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle > of wills thing). > >     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is > still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing > to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to > be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO

interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He > will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one > with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will > continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.> > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive > myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I > pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He > acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on > the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he > wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why > does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's

frustrated, I'm frustrated > and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of > those days.> > From a very frustrated mom.>

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My impression is that the public schools vary widely depending on where

you live. When my 14 year old son was little and should have been

diagnosed and treated, we seemed to have very few options from the

public school system. As a result,

he fell through the cracks at a time when he should have been getting

speech therapy, OT and all sorts of things that would have made a

difference in his life. By the time my (now) 5 year old son needed

services, we had moved and he was able to get

speech, OT, and other help through the district. I wised up, learned

the system better and was able to get early intervention services for my

dyspraxic 2 year old. My experiences with the public school system

have almost all been positive. Despite

budget cuts here in California, the individuals involved have helped me

work with the system to get what I need. I think our area just

happens to be pretty good.

That being said, I still plan to homeschool my kindergartner next

year. But I'm happy that the public school system gave him a little

boost when he needed it. And if I homeschool through a public charter

school or my district's homestead program, I can still

get speech and OT for him.

On 2/9/2011 11:47 AM, jennifer wrote:

> I am drained, exhausted, disappointed, and everything else. We have had to

kick and scream for every single service. Middle school was a dream. I thought I

could breath for the first time. Then High School hit but so did the bad economy

so we pulled him. I guess it all depends on where you live. I totally agree with

Public school teaching our kids to deal with the public. Unfortunately the

" Public " at our school wasn't a good environment. Our son works and deals with

the public 3 times a week. He works hard and feels great about himself.

>

>

> -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan.

>

>

>

>

> From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...>

> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM

>

>

>

>

> Really great advice here!

>

> Thanks,

> Lora

>

>

>

>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> From: debshitchcock@...

> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600

> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re

parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most

definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and

with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if

they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t

doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small

amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.

>

> In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can

swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation.

Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or

bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these

movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and

hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and

watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them

with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle?

Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting

their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee

table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds

on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big

movements and write it

> restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move

at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!

>

> A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to

get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine

like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and

continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on

trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing

(with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we

return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s

now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and

watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to

make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught

them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so

that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going

it worked. Besides it was good

> quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age

difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older

one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the

bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not

understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race.

Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this

period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see

if I wanted to do this for them each.

>

> It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I

realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “beforeâ€

that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick

to a routine!

> Debs

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB

> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>

>

>

>

>

> What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses.

Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a

second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a

day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always

possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers.

I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The

other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this

works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than

doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern

California , so the weather allows us to do this all year.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Thanks,

> Lora

>

>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> From: cmurray326@...

> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000

> Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone:

> This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in

fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did

fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he

does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets

upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing

on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is

just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets

frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently

mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.

> Thanks, : )

>

>

>

>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10

and

>> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days

(like

>> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down

the

>> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't

bring

>> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads

>> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of

>> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them,

>> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one

of

>> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost

in a

>> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to

supervise

>> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up

>> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of

>> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally

>> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive

behavior. 4)

>> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've

read

>> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having

to

>> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and

>> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her

to

>> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is

middle

>> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing

with

>> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home.

>>

>>

>> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point

is,

>> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds

really

>> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end

of the

>> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in

control

>> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and

>> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles,

curriculum,

>> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between

subjects,

>> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and

they can

>> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to

>> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.)Â But it's not easy!Â

>>

>>

>> KiaraÂ

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ________________________________

>> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>

>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM

>> Subject: homeschool vs. public

>>

>> Â

>> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The

reason for

>> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading

and

>> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with

autism. Now

>> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter

grades

>> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was

being

>> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out

when

>> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school

>> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it

was

>> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it

may

>> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along

(battle

>> of wills thing).Â

>>

>> Â Â Â Â Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said

earlier, he is

>> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C is

continuing

>> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He

appears to

>> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork.Â

He

>> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on

one

>> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will

>> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very

sweet.

>>

>> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive

>> myself for stopping in the first place)Â any recommendations on a

curriculum? I

>> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He

>> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find

on

>> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he

>> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal?Â

Why

>> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm

frustrated

>> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO

BE SO

>> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one

of

>> those days.

>>

>> From a very frustrated mom.

>>

>>

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I think we would be better to discuss what is best for each child,

rather than discussing whether home-schooling is better than public

schools or private schools.  Within about 10 minutes by bus we have

a choice of about 6 public high schools, and 5 private high schools

(1 Catholic, 3 Christian denominational, one generic Christian).  If

we are willing for our kids to travel up to 30 minutes, we could

easily increase the number of private schools to about 15, including

a Steiner school (although some are way out of our reach

financially).  Some of both categories are great schools, some

aren't.  I know quite a few parents who have one or two kids at my

son's school (a Christian denominational school) who also have a kid

or two at other schools, sometimes public, sometimes private.  There

is a lot more emphasis on finding a school that fits each kid.  I

think that is the way to go.  My sister and brother-in-law

(Baptists) send their daughter to a Catholic school becasue it is

the best choice for her.  When she started school, their preference

was for a Baptist-run school, then a generic Protestant school, then

a public school (he was a teacher in the public high school), then

they were willing to look at a Catholic school if they had to. 

Having looked at each (except the Baptist school - the nearest

turned out to be over 300km away) they decided that the Catholic

school was the best option.  My niece loved the school.  When they

moved 3 years later, they went through the same process with the

same result.  My niece (7 at the time) was very impressed that she

had 2 boyfriends by the end of her first week of school :)  I have

cousins (who are Catholic) who pulled their kids out of the local

Catholic school because "the school was hell, but badly run"

(apparently hell is well run - who would have thought it? ).  There

was no discipline, many of the teachers seemed not to care about the

kids or teaching them.  Bullying was rife and never dealt with. 

Parents could never get answers to their questions - half the time

the principal was 'absent' when anyone wanted to see her.  I think

increasingly all parents, not just those with 'special needs' kids

are having to ask "which is the best school (or non-school) for

*this* kid?" rather than simply "which is the best school" and

sending all their kids there.

On 10/02/2011 9:24 AM, Seeley wrote:

 

My impression is that the public schools vary widely

depending on where

you live. When my 14 year old son was little and should

have been

diagnosed and treated, we seemed to have very few options

from the

public school system. As a result,

he fell through the cracks at a time when he should have

been getting

speech therapy, OT and all sorts of things that would have

made a

difference in his life. By the time my (now) 5 year old

son needed

services, we had moved and he was able to get

speech, OT, and other help through the district. I wised

up, learned

the system better and was able to get early intervention

services for my

dyspraxic 2 year old. My experiences with the public

school system

have almost all been positive. Despite

budget cuts here in California, the individuals involved

have helped me

work with the system to get what I need. I think our area

just

happens to be pretty good.

That being said, I still plan to homeschool my

kindergartner next

year. But I'm happy that the public school system gave him

a little

boost when he needed it. And if I homeschool through a

public charter

school or my district's homestead program, I can still

get speech and OT for him.

On 2/9/2011 11:47 AM, jennifer wrote:

> I am drained, exhausted, disappointed, and everything

else. We have had to kick and scream for every single

service. Middle school was a dream. I thought I could

breath for the first time. Then High School hit but so did

the bad economy so we pulled him. I guess it all depends

on where you live. I totally agree with Public school

teaching our kids to deal with the public. Unfortunately

the "Public" at our school wasn't a good environment. Our

son works and deals with the public 3 times a week. He

works hard and feels great about himself.

>

>

> -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter

school in Jan.

>

>

>

>

> From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...>

> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs.

public

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM

>

>

>

>

> Really great advice here!

>

> Thanks,

> Lora

>

>

>

>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> From: debshitchcock@...

> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600

> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs.

public

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this

a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children

need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS

children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music

and with promises they can use the music player and gum

(sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but

let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the

work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do

a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on

something i.e. gum, sucker etc.

>

> In addition to chewing and music you may try a

computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows

them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation.

Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing

when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being

is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help

their concentration so that they can get more done and

hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them.

Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair?

Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big

bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a

handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they

can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms

creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee

table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to

roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want

to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and

write it

> restricts them in a way and also distracts them with

allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope

Im saying this right!

>

> A routine of exercise before the work calms them down

enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I

mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did

(even though it was really tough for me to get my kids

started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking,

riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does

something to their brains and they are more willing (with

being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride

and when we return we will do our math†after you return

from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do

the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch,

observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the

child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we

played games along the way and I taught them safety rules

of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain

so that the routine would stick. They were always

reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was

good

> quality time with them. With exception of my

children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to

walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one

wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I

allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little

one. Then the older one (not understanding his little

sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race.

Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing

homework/ during this period it was summer and I was

trying on home school before school began to see if I

wanted to do this for them each.

>

> It worked for us and homework/school work was not as

bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home

School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough

subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do

this stick to a routine!

> Debs

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment

[mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment

] On Behalf Of Lora JB

> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs.

public

>

>

>

>

>

> What might help your son with math is to give it to

him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to

do at once; start with five, and then do a second and

third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour

of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute

sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps

my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm

homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder

than other. The other thing that I do some days is take

the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing

math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son

than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I

live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to

do this all year.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Thanks,

> Lora

>

>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> From: cmurray326@...

> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000

> Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone:

> This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling

since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if

these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in

school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math

and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls

apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think

about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on

the one problem. The same thing is happening with

directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them

and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated.

He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but

they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this

sounds familiar.

> Thanks, : )

>

>

>

>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a

diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and

>> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a

huge struggle. Some days (like

>> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did

already) and send her down the

>> street to the public school. There are several

reasons why I just can't bring

>> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place

academically, very bright, reads

>> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of

phrases, excellent use of

>> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings

when someone else uses them,

>> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At

home, I can address each one of

>> these issues by meeting her where she is instead

of her having to get lost in a

>> group environment. 2)Â Her self esteem is

healthy.  By being able to supervise

>> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is

around kids who help build her up

>> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same

lines, healthy examples of

>> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend

to imitate so it's vitally

>> important that she has kids around her who are

presenting positive behavior. 4)

>> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go

through the process, but I've read

>> more than my share of others experiences. A lot

can be said for not having to

>> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My

daughter can appear so NTÂ and

>> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know

it would be a battle for her to

>> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink. Â

She's 5th grade, which is middle

>> school in our area.  Our local middle school is

well known for dealing with

>> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs.

Simply put, she's safer at home.

>>

>>

>> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you

with the details. My point is,

>> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On

one hand, it sounds really

>> nice to give over control to another adult during

the day, but at the end of the

>> day you still have to deal with the results.Â

It's nice to be fully in control

>> of your child's education, to address problems as

soon as you see them, and

>> to make accomodations where necessary. You can

switch up styles, curriculum,

>> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them

run around between subjects,

>> or between math problems, they can eat a snack

in your classroom, and they can

>> regulate their environment better (no

flourescents, no other children to

>> distract, no school bells ringing and

interrupting.)Â But it's not easy!Â

>>

>>

>> KiaraÂ

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ________________________________

>> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>

>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM

>> Subject: homeschool vs. public

>>

>> Â

>> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses

public school. The reason for

>> this is because report cards came out again and

he is below level on reading and

>> math. My son is in a room specifically designed

for children with autism. Now

>> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first

so they don't have letter grades

>> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed

at school and he was being

>> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up

at home and let him veg out when

>> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a

baby (shortly after school

>> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came

out and we decided that it was

>> a combination of him having ADHD and the new

baby. I also thought that it may

>> have something to do with the fact that he and

teacher may not get along (battle

>> of wills thing).Â

>>

>> Â Â Â Â Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report

card and as I said earlier, he is

>> still working at below level and the comment

reads as follows, "C is continuing

>> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and

is unresponsive. He appears to

>> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO

interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He

>> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades

out again. We work one on one

>> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses

to co-operate. We will

>> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond,

he is very bright & very sweet.

>>

>> So apparently I need to supplement him at home

(which I will never forgive

>> myself for stopping in the first place)Â any

recommendations on a curriculum? I

>> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read

a word here or there. He

>> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it

something he wants to find on

>> the internet to watch he can read through lists

of words to find the one he

>> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop?Â

Come on, what's the deal? Why

>> does this have to be such a fight constantly?Â

He's frustrated, I'm frustrated

>> and it just ends in a fight and both of us

crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO

>> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in

autism, today is just not one of

>> those days.

>>

>> From a very frustrated mom.

>>

>>

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I think you're right, .

Having children with various different challenges definitely inclines

one to look at each child's individual needs when it comes to

schooling. I started off with the mindset that homeschool was simply

best for my children.... then I had children.... and they

were all vastly different in their learning style and challenges. I

had to adjust my mindset a bit, and currently have 2 in private school,

2 in homeschool, and one in public school.

That is a hilarious comment--- " the school was hell, but badly run. " LOL!

On 2/9/2011 3:00 PM, Riley wrote:

> I think we would be better to discuss what is best for each child,

> rather than discussing whether home-schooling is better than public

> schools or private schools. Within about 10 minutes by bus we have a

> choice of about 6 public high schools, and 5 private high schools (1

> Catholic, 3 Christian denominational, one generic Christian). If we

> are willing for our kids to travel up to 30 minutes, we could easily

> increase the number of private schools to about 15, including a

> Steiner school (although some are way out of our reach financially).

> Some of both categories are great schools, some aren't. I know quite

> a few parents who have one or two kids at my son's school (a Christian

> denominational school) who also have a kid or two at other schools,

> sometimes public, sometimes private. There is a lot more emphasis on

> finding a school that fits each kid. I think that is the way to go.

> My sister and brother-in-law (Baptists) send their daughter to a

> Catholic school becasue it is the best choice for her. When she

> started school, their preference was for a Baptist-run school, then a

> generic Protestant school, then a public school (he was a teacher in

> the public high school), then they were willing to look at a Catholic

> school if they had to. Having looked at each (except the Baptist

> school - the nearest turned out to be over 300km away) they decided

> that the Catholic school was the best option. My niece loved the

> school. When they moved 3 years later, they went through the same

> process with the same result. My niece (7 at the time) was very

> impressed that she had 2 boyfriends by the end of her first week of

> school :) I have cousins (who are Catholic) who pulled their kids out

> of the local Catholic school because " the school was hell, but badly

> run " (apparently hell is well run - who would have thought it? ).

> There was no discipline, many of the teachers seemed not to care about

> the kids or teaching them. Bullying was rife and never dealt with.

> Parents could never get answers to their questions - half the time the

> principal was 'absent' when anyone wanted to see her. I think

> increasingly all parents, not just those with 'special needs' kids are

> having to ask " which is the best school (or non-school) for *this*

> kid? " rather than simply " which is the best school " and sending all

> their kids there.

>

>

>

> On 10/02/2011 9:24 AM, Seeley wrote:

>>

>> My impression is that the public schools vary widely depending on where

>> you live. When my 14 year old son was little and should have been

>> diagnosed and treated, we seemed to have very few options from the

>> public school system. As a result,

>> he fell through the cracks at a time when he should have been getting

>> speech therapy, OT and all sorts of things that would have made a

>> difference in his life. By the time my (now) 5 year old son needed

>> services, we had moved and he was able to get

>> speech, OT, and other help through the district. I wised up, learned

>> the system better and was able to get early intervention services for my

>> dyspraxic 2 year old. My experiences with the public school system

>> have almost all been positive. Despite

>> budget cuts here in California, the individuals involved have helped me

>> work with the system to get what I need. I think our area just

>> happens to be pretty good.

>>

>> That being said, I still plan to homeschool my kindergartner next

>> year. But I'm happy that the public school system gave him a little

>> boost when he needed it. And if I homeschool through a public charter

>> school or my district's homestead program, I can still

>> get speech and OT for him.

>>

>> On 2/9/2011 11:47 AM, jennifer wrote:

>> > I am drained, exhausted, disappointed, and everything else. We have

>> had to kick and scream for every single service. Middle school was a

>> dream. I thought I could breath for the first time. Then High School

>> hit but so did the bad economy so we pulled him. I guess it all

>> depends on where you live. I totally agree with Public school

>> teaching our kids to deal with the public. Unfortunately the " Public "

>> at our school wasn't a good environment. Our son works and deals with

>> the public 3 times a week. He works hard and feels great about himself.

>> >

>> >

>> > -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > From: Lora JB<lorajjb@... <mailto:lorajjb%40hotmail.com>>

>> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Really great advice here!

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Lora

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> > From: debshitchcock@... <mailto:debshitchcock%40gmail.com>

>> > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600

>> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no

>> for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An

>> ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child

>> choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music

>> player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work

>> but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work

>> then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount

>> of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.

>> >

>> > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so

>> that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and

>> watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their

>> way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason

>> being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their

>> concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without

>> you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch.

>> Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate

>> them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids

>> with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can

>> roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation.

>> You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height.

>> The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce

>> if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and

>> write it

>> > restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them

>> to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!

>> >

>> > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be

>> willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you

>> have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for

>> me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time)

>> walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something

>> to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their

>> schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do

>> our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for

>> math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and

>> watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the

>> child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games

>> along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the

>> way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick.

>> They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides

>> it was good

>> > quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big

>> age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller

>> one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This

>> is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one.

>> Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the

>> things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found

>> it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was

>> trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do

>> this for them each.

>> >

>> > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was

>> before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise

>> program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may

>> help. If you do this stick to a routine!

>> > Debs

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> [mailto:

>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> ] On Behalf Of Lora JB

>> > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM

>> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small

>> doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with

>> five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you

>> normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three

>> 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps

>> my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm

>> homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other.

>> The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't

>> know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is

>> easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table.

>> Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to

>> do this all year.

>> >

>> > Good luck.

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Lora

>> >

>> >

>> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> > From: cmurray326@... <mailto:cmurray326%40bellsouth.net>

>> > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000

>> > Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Hi everyone:

>> > This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has

>> been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound

>> familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little

>> behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but

>> falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think

>> about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one

>> problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is

>> just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he

>> gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little

>> but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds

>> familiar.

>> > Thanks, : )

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My

>> daughter is 10 and

>> >> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle.Â

>> Some days (like

>> >> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send

>> her down the

>> >> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just

>> can't bring

>> >> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very

>> bright, reads

>> >> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent

>> use of

>> >> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else

>> uses them,

>> >> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address

>> each one of

>> >> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to

>> get lost in a

>> >> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being

>> able to supervise

>> >> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help

>> build her up

>> >> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy

>> examples of

>> >> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so

>> it's vitally

>> >> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive

>> behavior. 4)

>> >> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process,

>> but I've read

>> >> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for

>> not having to

>> >> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so

>> NTÂ and

>> >> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a

>> battle for her to

>> >> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade,

>> which is middle

>> >> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for

>> dealing with

>> >> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's

>> safer at home.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details.Â

>> My point is,

>> >> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it

>> sounds really

>> >> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at

>> the end of the

>> >> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to beÂ

>> fully in control

>> >> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see

>> them, and

>> >> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles,

>> curriculum,

>> >> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around

>> between subjects,

>> >> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your

>> classroom, and they can

>> >> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other

>> children to

>> >> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.)Â But it's not

>> easy!Â

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> KiaraÂ

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> ________________________________

>> >> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>

>> >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM

>> >> Subject: homeschool vs. public

>> >>

>> >> Â

>> >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school.Â

>> The reason for

>> >> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level

>> on reading and

>> >> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with

>> autism. Now

>> >> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have

>> letter grades

>> >> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he

>> was being

>> >> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let

>> him veg out when

>> >> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after

>> school

>> >> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we

>> decided that it was

>> >> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought

>> that it may

>> >> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get

>> along (battle

>> >> of wills thing).Â

>> >>

>> >> Â Â Â Â Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said

>> earlier, he is

>> >> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C

>> is continuing

>> >> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive.Â

>> He appears to

>> >> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY

>> schoolwork. He

>> >> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work

>> one on one

>> >> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate.Â

>> We will

>> >> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright &

>> very sweet.

>> >>

>> >> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never

>> forgive

>> >> myself for stopping in the first place)Â any recommendations on a

>> curriculum? I

>> >> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or

>> there. He

>> >> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he

>> wants to find on

>> >> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find

>> the one he

>> >> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the

>> deal? Why

>> >> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated,

>> I'm frustrated

>> >> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS

>> HAVE TO BE SO

>> >> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is

>> just not one of

>> >> those days.

>> >>

>> >> From a very frustrated mom.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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, can I ask you what online charter school you are using?

We are going to Due Process court hearing in 2 weeks. My son WANTS to be around other students and the school did many procedural violations including cutting my signature off a document that I signed and pasted it on another "summary" document that had boxes checked that I would not have agreed to, writing an IEP without parents included, etc. School wants to move my son to a segregated SCHOOL where everyone at the school has a disability ranging from severe cog. disability, FASD, EBD, in addition to those dealing with drug and alcohol issues and those coming from juvenile justice system. There are no "typical" peers in this school.

We have considered the online school but feel that schools need to be held accountable. My son has been getting 5 hours of "homebound" instruction since Sept. The school feels they did nothing wrong...however has recently provided us with a "settlement offer" because we have proof of the forgery and the documentation shows they did not follow the law.

Still, we continue to have online school as our fall back if the judge somehow feels that the segregated school is the only place for him. We are asking for 1/2 days in typical school and 1/2 days in the segregated school since they work on "skills" there.

It is a draining process to fight a school district but if everyone lets the schools railroad kids that need more attention out.

I do like the idea that the home school district has to pay for the online school.

Aj

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I would have loved to have a choice of public schools. Private school isn't an option for us. As big as our city is there are more kids than schools so there is a map. No one is allowed to go to a public school outside their boundaries even in the same district. To do so you have to show proof of employment. We had 1 elementary, 1 middle and 1 high school. We have had awesome teachers and terrible teachers. The only reason we are using a charter school is because of the 50 plus class size. Our son got totally lost in the crowd because he just couldn't speak up and ask for what he needed. He only has another year and a half and then he can choose whatever school he wishes.

-Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan.>>> From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...>> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM>> >>> Really great advice here!> > Thanks,> Lora> >>>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: debshitchcock@...> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public>> >>>>> Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our

children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.> > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair?

Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it> restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!> > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their

brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good> quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the

things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each.> > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine!> Debs> >>>>> From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public> > >>>> What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other

thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. > > Good luck.> > Thanks,> Lora> > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: cmurray326@...> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000> Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public>> >>>> Hi everyone:> This is new

to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.> Thanks, : )>> > >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and>> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like>> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the>> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring>> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads>> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of>> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them,>> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of>> these issues by

meeting her where she is instead of her having to get lost in a>> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise>> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up>> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of>> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally>> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4)>> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read>> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to>> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and>> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to>> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade,

which is middle>> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with>> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home.>>>>>> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is,>> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really>> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the>> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control>> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and>> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum,>> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects,>> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they

can>> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to>> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! >>>>>> Kiara >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________>> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM>> Subject: homeschool vs. public>>>>  >> I would like to know who homeschools

and who uses public school. The reason for>> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on reading and>> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now>> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades>> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being>> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when>> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school>> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was>> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may>> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle>> of wills thing). >>>>     Now today I get the 2nd 9

weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is>> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C is continuing>> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to>> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He>> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one>> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will>> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.>>>> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive>> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I>> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He>> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to

find on>> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one he>> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why>> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated>> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO>> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of>> those days.>>>> From a very frustrated mom.>>>> > > >>>>>>>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time> with the Search movie showtime shortcut.>>>>>>>

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We are limited a little for public schools.  If they are at

capacity, then priority goes to local students.  But anyone with

'special needs' can usually choose virtually any school.  The only

limitation is that you may not get subsidised travel if you go past

a school from the same system (public/denomination/etc) that was

able to accomodate your child.  In public high schools, classes

officially can't go past 30 (32?) kids.  Most private schools try to

keep classes at about 20-25 kids.  The largest class my son has been

in at highschool is 22, most were smaller.  Now he is in year 11,

half his classes are only 5-8 kids.  Our public schools are run by

each state, so there are no school districts as such.  You have an

allocated school that is oblidged to take your child, based on

distance from home to school by the shortest viable route, but you

can apply at others.  Unfortunately, some parents still find

themselves in the position of having no good public options for

their kid.

On 10/02/2011 11:17 AM, jennifer wrote:

 

I would have

loved to have a choice of public schools. Private

school isn't an option for us. As big as our city

is there are more kids than schools so there is a

map. No one is allowed to go to a public school

outside their boundaries even in the same

district. To do so you have to show proof of

employment. We had 1 elementary, 1 middle and 1

high school. We have had awesome teachers and

terrible teachers. The only reason we are using a

charter school is because of the 50 plus class

size. Our son got totally lost in the crowd

because he just couldn't speak up and ask for what

he needed. He only has another year and a half and

then he can choose whatever school he wishes.

-Son

B 15,ASP  10th grd. Starting

a charter school in Jan.

>

>

> From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...>

> Subject: RE: Re:

homeschool vs. public

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Date: Monday, February 7, 2011,

5:53 PM

>

>

>

>

> Really great advice here!

>

> Thanks,

> Lora

>

>

>

>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> From: debshitchcock@...

> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27

-0600

> Subject: RE: Re:

homeschool vs. public

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Music with headphones and chewing

gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for

you’re parenting? Understand our

children need stimulation. An ADHD child

most definitely and AS children! Try

letting the child choose his/her own

music and with promises they can use the

music player and gum (sugar free if u

choose) if they are to do the work but

let them know it’s a privilege! If they

aren’t doing the work then the

headphones/gum are taken away. Once they

do a small amount of problems, try

letting them chew on something i.e. gum,

sucker etc.

>

> In addition to chewing and music

you may try a computer chair so that

they can swirl/twirl this allows them to

fidget. Sit back and watch do some

observation. Don’t get on to them let

them do it their way, say nothing when

they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The

reason being is to allowing them to make

these movements, it will help their

concentration so that they can get more

done and hopefully without you being the

police and shadowing them. Try it, sit

back and watch. Don’t have a computer

chair? Remember the bouncy balls?

Stimulate them with the big bouncy

balls….the ones we had when we were kids

with a handle? Let them sit on these

while doing their work they can roll

around while sitting their on their

bottoms creates stimulation. You may

need a lower table/ coffee table etc for

the right height. The balls allows them

to roll with their behinds on the ball,

bounce if they want to (slightly)

because they can’t do big movements and

write it

> restricts them in a way and also

distracts them with allowing them to

move at the same time. Make sense? I

hope Im saying this right!

>

> A routine of exercise before the

work calms them down enough to be

willing to get it done with the props

that I mentioned above. If you have a

daily routine like we did (even though

it was really tough for me to get my

kids started and continue doing this…it

takes time) walking, riding bike,

bouncing on trampoline etc., it does

something to their brains and they are

more willing (with being told their

schedule; “we are going on a bike ride

and when we return we will do our mathâ€

after you return from exercise tell them

it’s now time for math. Then do the five

problems at intervals. Then sit back and

watch, observe from a distance, tweak to

whatever works for the child. I had to

make it fun and walk with them and we

played games along the way and I taught

them safety rules of the road along the

way. I’ve even did this in the rain so

that the routine would stick. They were

always reluctant but once we got going

it worked. Besides it was good

> quality time with them. With

exception of my children’s ages (big age

difference) so it was hard to walk slow

because of the smaller one and the older

one wanting to do races and get far

beyond us. This is when I allowed the

bicycle to come in to play with the

little one. Then the older one (not

understanding his little sister can’t do

the things he does) wanted to race.

Anyway, we got through it and I found it

was relaxing homework/ during this

period it was summer and I was trying on

home school before school began to see

if I wanted to do this for them each.

>

> It worked for us and

homework/school work was not as bad as

it was before! I realize some of you are

Home School but perhaps an exercise

program “before†that tough subject

that’s been so hard before may help. If

you do this stick to a routine!

> Debs

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment

[mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment

] On Behalf Of Lora JB

> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011

6:05 PM

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Subject: RE: Re:

homeschool vs. public

>

>

>

>

>

> What might help your son with math

is to give it to him in small doses.

Instead of giving him 20 problems to do

at once; start with five, and then do a

second and third session later in the

day. If you normally do an hour of math

a day, just break it up into three

20-minute sessions. I know this isn't

always possible, but it helps my son who

has attention issues along with

Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two

sons, so I know some days are harder

than other. The other thing that I do

some days is take the work outside. I

don't know why this works, but doing

math at a picnic table in the park is

easier for my son than doing it at his

desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I

live in Southern California , so the

weather allows us to do this all year.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Thanks,

> Lora

>

>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> From: cmurray326@...

> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37

+0000

> Subject: Re:

homeschool vs. public

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone:

> This is new to us too. I have been

homeschooling since my son has been in

fifth grade and wanted to ask if these

characteristics sound familiar. He did

fine in school up until 7th grade. He

was a little behind in math and now he

does well in English/Social Studies but

falls apart with math. He really gets

upset and all he can think about is the

amount of work to do instead of focusing

on the one problem. The same thing is

happening with directions. Sometimes he

is just not understanding them and if he

doesn't see its importance he gets

frustrated. He was diagnosed with just

ADHD when he was little but they

recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me

know if this sounds familiar.

> Thanks, : )

>

>

>

>> I homeschool, and have done so

before I had a diagnosis. My daughter

is 10 and

>> has Aspergers. Some days (like

today) can be a huge struggle. Some

days (like

>> today) I just want to scream

(ok, I admit, I did already) and send

her down the

>> street to the public school.Â

There are several reasons why I just

can't bring

>> myself to do so: 1) She's all

over the place academically, very

bright, reads

>> ahead, poor comprehension, no

understanding of phrases, excellent use

of

>> vocabulary but doesn't

understand the meanings when someone

else uses them,

>> terrified of math and is 2

years behind. At home, I can address

each one of

>> these issues by meeting her

where she is instead of her having to

get lost in a

>> group environment. 2)Â Her self

esteem is healthy.  By being able to

supervise

>> all of her socializing, I can

ensure she is around kids who help build

her up

>> instead of tearing her down. 3)

Along the same lines, healthy examples

of

>> correct behavior. Having a girl

Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's

vitally

>> important that she has kids

around her who are presenting positive

behavior. 4)

>> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've

never had to go through the process,

but I've read

>> more than my share of others

experiences. A lot can be said for not

having to

>> fight for accomodations in a

classroom. My daughter can appear so

NTÂ and

>> functions fairly well in a

classroom that I know it would be a

battle for her to

>> get any services. 5) Our local

schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which

is middle

>> school in our area.  Our

local middle school is well known for

dealing with

>> issues like sex, pregnancy,

drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer

at home.

>>

>>

>> There are other reasons, but I

won't bore you with the details. My

point is,

>> you have to weigh out all the

pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds

really

>> nice to give over control to

another adult during the day, but at

the end of the

>> day you still have to deal with

the results. It's nice to be fully in

control

>> of your child's education, to

address problems as soon as you see

them, and

>> to make accomodations where

necessary. You can switch up styles,

curriculum,

>> pacing, methods, even

location. You can let them run around

between subjects,

>> or between math problems,

they can eat a snack in your classroom,

and they can

>> regulate their environment

better (no flourescents, no other

children to

>> distract, no school bells

ringing and interrupting.)Â But it's not

easy!Â

>>

>>

>> KiaraÂ

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

________________________________

>> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>

>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011

3:12:53 PM

>> Subject:

homeschool vs. public

>>

>> Â

>> I would like to know who

homeschools and who uses public school.Â

The reason for

>> this is because report cards

came out again and he is below level on

reading and

>> math. My son is in a room

specifically designed for children with

autism. Now

>> after seeing his S/N report

card (he's in first so they don't have

letter grades

>> for that level yet). I was

told they were pushed at school and he

was being

>> disagreeable with them. So I

decided to let up at home and let him

veg out when

>> he got here. Also b/c we just

recently had a baby (shortly after

school

>> started). The first 9 weeks

grading period came out and we decided

that it was

>> a combination of him having

ADHD and the new baby. I also thought

that it may

>> have something to do with the

fact that he and teacher may not get

along (battle

>> of wills thing).Â

>>

>> Â Â Â Â Now today I get the 2nd

9 weeks report card and as I said

earlier, he is

>> still working at below level

and the comment reads as follows, "C is

continuing

>> to chatter in class or else

gazes into space and is unresponsive.Â

He appears to

>> be more calm in the afternoon,

but has NO interest in doing ANY

schoolwork. He

>> will sometimes respond

verbally-and then fades out again. We

work one on one

>> with him everyday-but most of

the time he refuses to co-operate. We

will

>> continue to work w/ him. When

he does respond, he is very bright &

very sweet.

>>

>> So apparently I need to

supplement him at home (which I will

never forgive

>> myself for stopping in the

first place)Â any recommendations on a

curriculum? I

>> pulled out one of his level K

readers and he read a word here or

there. He

>> acted like he didn't know how

to read, yet if it something he wants to

find on

>> the internet to watch he can

read through lists of words to find the

one he

>> wants, but can't read words

like mom or mop? Come on, what's the

deal? Why

>> does this have to be such a

fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm

frustrated

>> and it just ends in a fight and

both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE

TO BE SO

>> HARD??? Somedays I can see the

speciality in autism, today is just not

one of

>> those days.

>>

>> From a very frustrated mom.

>>

>>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in

no time

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That's awesome .small class sizes, We finally settled on a private magnet school. He goes for instruction 2 days a week,Tues and Thur. Tues he gets instruction from the gen ed teacher and the resource teacher (His IEP went with him). He gets all of his work for the week, packets of subjects. 2 subjects at a time so he isn't overwhelmed.He does the work at home and can call, email or skype the teacher if he has questions (He can only skype if he calls ahead to make sure the teacher isn't busy). On Thur he goes in for testing providing he's finished the packets. The tests are only given one subject at a time. He can go at his own speed which is great. He hasn't gotten below a B since he's been there. He's completed English, Math, and History. He will complete Art History,science and PE. That will be it for the year.

It's year round so he doesn't have to wait till Sept to advance. He can go strait to 11th grd. He will for sure graduate early with all his credits. There will be a cap and gown ceremony, He doesn't want anything to do with it. I told him if he doesn't do it I'm putting on that cap and gown and making the walk myself. I would never say this to him but he has no idea what goes on behind the scenes to make sure he has a successful year.He thinks it's all him. So the ceremony is for ME!!

-Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan.>>> From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...>> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM>> >>> Really great advice here!> > Thanks,> Lora> >>>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: debshitchcock@...> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public>> >>>>> Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.> > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that they can swirl/twirl this allows them

to fidget. Sit back and watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it> restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to move at the same time. Make

sense? I hope Im saying this right!> > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do our math†after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant but

once we got going it worked. Besides it was good> quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do this for them each.> > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was before! I realize some of you are Home School but perhaps an exercise program “before†that tough subject that’s been so hard before may help. If you do this stick to a routine!> Debs> >>>>> From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Lora JB> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM> Autism and Aspergers Treatment > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public> > >>>> What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this

isn't always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in Southern California , so the weather allows us to do this all year. > > Good luck.> > Thanks,> Lora> > > Autism and Aspergers Treatment > From: cmurray326@...> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000> Subject: Re: homeschool vs.

public>> >>>> Hi everyone:> This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds familiar.> Thanks, : )>> > >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My daughter is 10 and>> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some days (like>> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send her down the>> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just can't bring>> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very bright, reads>> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent use of>> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else uses them,>> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address each one of>> these issues by meeting her where she is

instead of her having to get lost in a>> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able to supervise>> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help build her up>> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy examples of>> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's vitally>> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive behavior. 4)>> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but I've read>> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not having to>> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so NT and>> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a battle for her to>> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade, which is

middle>> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for dealing with>> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer at home.>>>>>> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My point is,>> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it sounds really>> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at the end of the>> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully in control>> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see them, and>> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles, curriculum,>> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between subjects,>> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom, and they can>>

regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other children to>> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.) But it's not easy! >>>>>> Kiara >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________>> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM>> Subject: homeschool vs. public>>>>  >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The reason for>> this is because report cards came out again and

he is below level on reading and>> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with autism. Now>> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have letter grades>> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he was being>> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when>> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school>> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided that it was>> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought that it may>> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get along (battle>> of wills thing). >>>>     Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he is>> still working at below level and the comment

reads as follows, "C is continuing>> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive. He appears to>> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY schoolwork. He>> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one>> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will>> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very bright & very sweet.>>>> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never forgive>> myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations on a curriculum? I>> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or there. He>> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants to find on>> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the one

he>> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why>> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated>> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO>> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just not one of>> those days.>>>> From a very frustrated mom.>>>> > > >>>>>>>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time> with the Search movie showtime shortcut.>>>>>>>

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I agree. I think we all have seen what

works and what is optional in our areas.

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From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Seeley

Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011

5:31 PM

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re:

Re: homeschool vs. public

I think you're right, .

Having children with various different challenges definitely inclines

one to look at each child's individual needs when it comes to

schooling. I started off with the mindset that homeschool was simply

best for my children.... then I had children.... and they

were all vastly different in their learning style and challenges. I

had to adjust my mindset a bit, and currently have 2 in private school,

2 in homeschool, and one in public school.

That is a hilarious comment--- " the school was hell, but badly run. "

LOL!

On 2/9/2011 3:00 PM, Riley wrote:

> I think we would be better to discuss what is best for each child,

> rather than discussing whether home-schooling is better than public

> schools or private schools. Within about 10 minutes by bus we have a

> choice of about 6 public high schools, and 5 private high schools (1

> Catholic, 3 Christian denominational, one generic Christian). If we

> are willing for our kids to travel up to 30 minutes, we could easily

> increase the number of private schools to about 15, including a

> Steiner school (although some are way out of our reach financially).

> Some of both categories are great schools, some aren't. I know quite

> a few parents who have one or two kids at my son's school (a Christian

> denominational school) who also have a kid or two at other schools,

> sometimes public, sometimes private. There is a lot more emphasis on

> finding a school that fits each kid. I think that is the way to go.

> My sister and brother-in-law (Baptists) send their daughter to a

> Catholic school becasue it is the best choice for her. When she

> started school, their preference was for a Baptist-run school, then a

> generic Protestant school, then a public school (he was a teacher in

> the public high school), then they were willing to look at a Catholic

> school if they had to. Having looked at each (except the Baptist

> school - the nearest turned out to be over 300km away) they decided

> that the Catholic school was the best option. My niece loved the

> school. When they moved 3 years later, they went through the same

> process with the same result. My niece (7 at the time) was very

> impressed that she had 2 boyfriends by the end of her first week of

> school :) I have cousins (who are Catholic) who pulled their kids out

> of the local Catholic school because " the school was hell, but badly

> run " (apparently hell is well run - who would have thought it? ).

> There was no discipline, many of the teachers seemed not to care about

> the kids or teaching them. Bullying was rife and never dealt with.

> Parents could never get answers to their questions - half the time the

> principal was 'absent' when anyone wanted to see her. I think

> increasingly all parents, not just those with 'special needs' kids are

> having to ask " which is the best school (or non-school) for *this*

> kid? " rather than simply " which is the best school " and

sending all

> their kids there.

>

>

>

> On 10/02/2011 9:24 AM, Seeley wrote:

>>

>> My impression is that the public schools vary widely depending on

where

>> you live. When my 14 year old son was little and should have been

>> diagnosed and treated, we seemed to have very few options from the

>> public school system. As a result,

>> he fell through the cracks at a time when he should have been getting

>> speech therapy, OT and all sorts of things that would have made a

>> difference in his life. By the time my (now) 5 year old son needed

>> services, we had moved and he was able to get

>> speech, OT, and other help through the district. I wised up, learned

>> the system better and was able to get early intervention services for

my

>> dyspraxic 2 year old. My experiences with the public school system

>> have almost all been positive. Despite

>> budget cuts here in California,

the individuals involved have helped me

>> work with the system to get what I need. I think our area just

>> happens to be pretty good.

>>

>> That being said, I still plan to homeschool my kindergartner next

>> year. But I'm happy that the public school system gave him a little

>> boost when he needed it. And if I homeschool through a public charter

>> school or my district's homestead program, I can still

>> get speech and OT for him.

>>

>> On 2/9/2011 11:47 AM, jennifer wrote:

>> > I am drained, exhausted, disappointed, and everything else. We

have

>> had to kick and scream for every single service. Middle school was a

>> dream. I thought I could breath for the first time. Then High School

>> hit but so did the bad economy so we pulled him. I guess it all

>> depends on where you live. I totally agree with Public school

>> teaching our kids to deal with the public. Unfortunately the

" Public "

>> at our school wasn't a good environment. Our son works and deals with

>> the public 3 times a week. He works hard and feels great about

himself.

>> >

>> >

>> > -Son B 15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...

<mailto:lorajjb%40hotmail.com>>

>> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Really great advice here!

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Lora

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> > From: debshitchcock@...

<mailto:debshitchcock%40gmail.com>

>> > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600

>> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no

>> for you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An

>> ADHD child most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child

>> choose his/her own music and with promises they can use the music

>> player and gum (sugar free if u choose) if they are to do the work

>> but let them know it’s a privilege! If they aren’t doing the work

>> then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they do a small amount

>> of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum, sucker etc.

>> >

>> > In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so

>> that they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and

>> watch do some observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their

>> way, say nothing when they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason

>> being is to allowing them to make these movements, it will help their

>> concentration so that they can get more done and hopefully without

>> you being the police and shadowing them. Try it, sit back and watch.

>> Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy balls? Stimulate

>> them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were kids

>> with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can

>> roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation.

>> You may need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height.

>> The balls allows them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce

>> if they want to (slightly) because they can’t do big movements and

>> write it

>> > restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing

them

>> to move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!

>> >

>> > A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to

be

>> willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you

>> have a daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for

>> me to get my kids started and continue doing this…it takes time)

>> walking, riding bike, bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something

>> to their brains and they are more willing (with being told their

>> schedule; “we are going on a bike ride and when we return we will do

>> our math” after you return from exercise tell them it’s now time for

>> math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit back and

>> watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the

>> child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games

>> along the way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the

>> way. I’ve even did this in the rain so that the routine would stick.

>> They were always reluctant but once we got going it worked. Besides

>> it was good

>> > quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big

>> age difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller

>> one and the older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This

>> is when I allowed the bicycle to come in to play with the little one.

>> Then the older one (not understanding his little sister can’t do the

>> things he does) wanted to race. Anyway, we got through it and I found

>> it was relaxing homework/ during this period it was summer and I was

>> trying on home school before school began to see if I wanted to do

>> this for them each.

>> >

>> > It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it

was

>> before! I realize some of you are Home School

but perhaps an exercise

>> program “before” that tough subject that’s been so hard before may

>> help. If you do this stick to a routine!

>> > Debs

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> [mailto:

>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40> ] On Behalf Of Lora

JB

>> > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM

>> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> > Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small

>> doses. Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with

>> five, and then do a second and third session later in the day. If you

>> normally do an hour of math a day, just break it up into three

>> 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't always possible, but it helps

>> my son who has attention issues along with Aspergers. I'm

>> homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than other.

>> The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't

>> know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is

>> easier for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table.

>> Luckily, I live in Southern California

, so the weather allows us to

>> do this all year.

>> >

>> > Good luck.

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Lora

>> >

>> >

>> > Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> > From: cmurray326@...

<mailto:cmurray326%40bellsouth.net>

>> > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000

>> > Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Hi everyone:

>> > This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has

>> been in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound

>> familiar. He did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little

>> behind in math and now he does well in English/Social Studies but

>> falls apart with math. He really gets upset and all he can think

>> about is the amount of work to do instead of focusing on the one

>> problem. The same thing is happening with directions. Sometimes he is

>> just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its importance he

>> gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was little

>> but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds

>> familiar.

>> > Thanks, : )

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My

>> daughter is 10 and

>> >> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge

struggle.Â

>> Some days (like

>> >> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and

send

>> her down the

>> >> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I

just

>> can't bring

>> >> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically,

very

>> bright, reads

>> >> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases,

excellent

>> use of

>> >> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone

else

>> uses them,

>> >> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can

address

>> each one of

>> >> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her

having to

>> get lost in a

>> >> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By

being

>> able to supervise

>> >> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who

help

>> build her up

>> >> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy

>> examples of

>> >> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate

so

>> it's vitally

>> >> important that she has kids around her who are presenting

positive

>> behavior. 4)

>> >> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the

process,

>> but I've read

>> >> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said

for

>> not having to

>> >> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can

appear so

>> NTÂ and

>> >> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be

a

>> battle for her to

>> >> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th

grade,

>> which is middle

>> >> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known

for

>> dealing with

>> >> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put,

she's

>> safer at home.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the

details.Â

>> My point is,

>> >> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand,

it

>> sounds really

>> >> nice to give over control to another adult during the day,

but at

>> the end of the

>> >> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to

beÂ

>> fully in control

>> >> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you

see

>> them, and

>> >> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up

styles,

>> curriculum,

>> >> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around

>> between subjects,

>> >> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your

>> classroom, and they can

>> >> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other

>> children to

>> >> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.)Â But

it's not

>> easy!Â

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> KiaraÂ

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> ________________________________

>> >> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>

>> >> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> <mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment%40>

>> >> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM

>> >> Subject: homeschool vs. public

>> >>

>> >> Â

>> >> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public

school.Â

>> The reason for

>> >> this is because report cards came out again and he is below

level

>> on reading and

>> >> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children

with

>> autism. Now

>> >> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't

have

>> letter grades

>> >> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school

and he

>> was being

>> >> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and

let

>> him veg out when

>> >> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly

after

>> school

>> >> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we

>> decided that it was

>> >> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also

thought

>> that it may

>> >> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may

not get

>> along (battle

>> >> of wills thing).Â

>> >>

>> >> Â Â Â Â Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I

said

>> earlier, he is

>> >> still working at below level and the comment reads as

follows, " C

>> is continuing

>> >> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is

unresponsive.Â

>> He appears to

>> >> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing

ANY

>> schoolwork. He

>> >> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We

work

>> one on one

>> >> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to

co-operate.Â

>> We will

>> >> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very

bright &

>> very sweet.

>> >>

>> >> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will

never

>> forgive

>> >> myself for stopping in the first place)Â any recommendations on

a

>> curriculum? I

>> >> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here

or

>> there. He

>> >> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he

>> wants to find on

>> >> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to

find

>> the one he

>> >> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's

the

>> deal? Why

>> >> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's

frustrated,

>> I'm frustrated

>> >> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES

THIS

>> HAVE TO BE SO

>> >> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today

is

>> just not one of

>> >> those days.

>> >>

>> >> From a very frustrated mom.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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I sure do wish this would happen in our

state!

Debs

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Riley

Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011

7:00 PM

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re:

Re: homeschool vs. public

We are

limited a little for public schools. If they are at capacity, then

priority goes to local students. But anyone with 'special needs' can

usually choose virtually any school. The only limitation is that you may

not get subsidised travel if you go past a school from the same system

(public/denomination/etc) that was able to accomodate your child. In public

high schools, classes officially can't go past 30 (32?) kids. Most

private schools try to keep classes at about 20-25 kids. The largest

class my son has been in at highschool is 22, most were smaller. Now he

is in year 11, half his classes are only 5-8 kids. Our public schools are

run by each state, so there are no school districts as such. You have an

allocated school that is oblidged to take your child, based on distance from

home to school by the shortest viable route, but you can apply at others.

Unfortunately, some parents still find themselves in the position of having no

good public options for their kid.

On 10/02/2011 11:17 AM, jennifer wrote:

I would have loved to

have a choice of public schools. Private school isn't an option for us. As

big as our city is there are more kids than schools so there is a map.

No one is allowed to go to a public school outside their boundaries even in

the same district. To do so you have to show proof of employment. We had 1

elementary, 1 middle and 1 high school. We have had awesome teachers and

terrible teachers. The only reason we are using a charter school is because

of the 50 plus class size. Our son got totally lost in the crowd because he

just couldn't speak up and ask for what he needed. He only has another year

and a half and then he can choose whatever school he wishes.

-Son B

15,ASP 10th grd. Starting a charter school in Jan.

>

>

> From: Lora JB<lorajjb@...>

> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 5:53 PM

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>

> Really great advice here!

>

> Thanks,

> Lora

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> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> From: debshitchcock@...

> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:28:27 -0600

> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

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> Music with headphones and chewing gum helps. Is this a BIG no no for

you’re parenting? Understand our children need stimulation. An ADHD child

most definitely and AS children! Try letting the child choose his/her own

music and with promises they can use the music player and gum (sugar free if

u choose) if they are to do the work but let them know it’s a privilege! If

they aren’t doing the work then the headphones/gum are taken away. Once they

do a small amount of problems, try letting them chew on something i.e. gum,

sucker etc.

>

> In addition to chewing and music you may try a computer chair so that

they can swirl/twirl this allows them to fidget. Sit back and watch do some

observation. Don’t get on to them let them do it their way, say nothing when

they twirl or bounce. Observe only. The reason being is to allowing them to

make these movements, it will help their concentration so that they can get

more done and hopefully without you being the police and shadowing them. Try

it, sit back and watch. Don’t have a computer chair? Remember the bouncy

balls? Stimulate them with the big bouncy balls….the ones we had when we were

kids with a handle? Let them sit on these while doing their work they can

roll around while sitting their on their bottoms creates stimulation. You may

need a lower table/ coffee table etc for the right height. The balls allows

them to roll with their behinds on the ball, bounce if they want to

(slightly) because they can’t do big movements and write it

> restricts them in a way and also distracts them with allowing them to

move at the same time. Make sense? I hope Im saying this right!

>

> A routine of exercise before the work calms them down enough to be

willing to get it done with the props that I mentioned above. If you have a

daily routine like we did (even though it was really tough for me to get my

kids started and continue doing this…it takes time) walking, riding bike,

bouncing on trampoline etc., it does something to their brains and they are

more willing (with being told their schedule; “we are going on a bike ride

and when we return we will do our math” after you return from exercise tell

them it’s now time for math. Then do the five problems at intervals. Then sit

back and watch, observe from a distance, tweak to whatever works for the

child. I had to make it fun and walk with them and we played games along the

way and I taught them safety rules of the road along the way. I’ve even did

this in the rain so that the routine would stick. They were always reluctant

but once we got going it worked. Besides it was good

> quality time with them. With exception of my children’s ages (big age

difference) so it was hard to walk slow because of the smaller one and the

older one wanting to do races and get far beyond us. This is when I allowed

the bicycle to come in to play with the little one. Then the older one (not

understanding his little sister can’t do the things he does) wanted to race.

Anyway, we got through it and I found it was relaxing homework/ during this

period it was summer and I was trying on home school before school began to

see if I wanted to do this for them each.

>

> It worked for us and homework/school work was not as bad as it was

before! I realize some of you are Home

School but perhaps an

exercise program “before” that tough subject that’s been so hard before may

help. If you do this stick to a routine!

> Debs

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> From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment

[mailto: Autism and Aspergers Treatment

] On Behalf Of Lora JB

> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:05 PM

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> Subject: RE: Re: homeschool vs. public

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> What might help your son with math is to give it to him in small doses.

Instead of giving him 20 problems to do at once; start with five, and then do

a second and third session later in the day. If you normally do an hour of

math a day, just break it up into three 20-minute sessions. I know this isn't

always possible, but it helps my son who has attention issues along with

Aspergers. I'm homeschooling my two sons, so I know some days are harder than

other. The other thing that I do some days is take the work outside. I don't

know why this works, but doing math at a picnic table in the park is easier

for my son than doing it at his desk or the kitchen table. Luckily, I live in

Southern California , so the weather allows

us to do this all year.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Thanks,

> Lora

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>

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

> From: cmurray326@...

> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:20:37 +0000

> Subject: Re: homeschool vs. public

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> Hi everyone:

> This is new to us too. I have been homeschooling since my son has been

in fifth grade and wanted to ask if these characteristics sound familiar. He

did fine in school up until 7th grade. He was a little behind in math and now

he does well in English/Social Studies but falls apart with math. He really

gets upset and all he can think about is the amount of work to do instead of

focusing on the one problem. The same thing is happening with directions.

Sometimes he is just not understanding them and if he doesn't see its

importance he gets frustrated. He was diagnosed with just ADHD when he was

little but they recently mentioned Asperger's. Let me know if this sounds

familiar.

> Thanks, : )

>

>

>

>> I homeschool, and have done so before I had a diagnosis. My

daughter is 10 and

>> has Aspergers. Some days (like today) can be a huge struggle. Some

days (like

>> today) I just want to scream (ok, I admit, I did already) and send

her down the

>> street to the public school. There are several reasons why I just

can't bring

>> myself to do so: 1) She's all over the place academically, very

bright, reads

>> ahead, poor comprehension, no understanding of phrases, excellent

use of

>> vocabulary but doesn't understand the meanings when someone else

uses them,

>> terrified of math and is 2 years behind. At home, I can address

each one of

>> these issues by meeting her where she is instead of her having to

get lost in a

>> group environment. 2) Her self esteem is healthy.  By being able

to supervise

>> all of her socializing, I can ensure she is around kids who help

build her up

>> instead of tearing her down. 3) Along the same lines, healthy

examples of

>> correct behavior. Having a girl Aspie, they tend to imitate so it's

vitally

>> important that she has kids around her who are presenting positive

behavior. 4)

>> No IEP's! I'll admit, I've never had to go through the process, but

I've read

>> more than my share of others experiences. A lot can be said for not

having to

>> fight for accomodations in a classroom. My daughter can appear so

NTÂ and

>> functions fairly well in a classroom that I know it would be a

battle for her to

>> get any services. 5) Our local schools stink.  She's 5th grade,

which is middle

>> school in our area.  Our local middle school is well known for

dealing with

>> issues like sex, pregnancy, drugs and gangs. Simply put, she's safer

at home.

>>

>>

>> There are other reasons, but I won't bore you with the details. My

point is,

>> you have to weigh out all the pro's and cons. On one hand, it

sounds really

>> nice to give over control to another adult during the day, but at

the end of the

>> day you still have to deal with the results. It's nice to be fully

in control

>> of your child's education, to address problems as soon as you see

them, and

>> to make accomodations where necessary. You can switch up styles,

curriculum,

>> pacing, methods, even location. You can let them run around between

subjects,

>> or between math problems, they can eat a snack in your classroom,

and they can

>> regulate their environment better (no flourescents, no other

children to

>> distract, no school bells ringing and interrupting.)Â But it's not

easy!Â

>>

>>

>> KiaraÂ

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ________________________________

>> From: <chadderboxesmom@...>

>> Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>> Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:12:53 PM

>> Subject: homeschool vs. public

>>

>> Â

>> I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school.Â

The reason for

>> this is because report cards came out again and he is below level on

reading and

>> math. My son is in a room specifically designed for children with

autism. Now

>> after seeing his S/N report card (he's in first so they don't have

letter grades

>> for that level yet). I was told they were pushed at school and he

was being

>> disagreeable with them. So I decided to let up at home and let him

veg out when

>> he got here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after

school

>> started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided

that it was

>> a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also thought

that it may

>> have something to do with the fact that he and teacher may not get

along (battle

>> of wills thing).Â

>>

>> Â Â Â Â Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said

earlier, he is

>> still working at below level and the comment reads as follows,

" C is continuing

>> to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is unresponsive.Â

He appears to

>> be more calm in the afternoon, but has NO interest in doing ANY

schoolwork. He

>> will sometimes respond verbally-and then fades out again. We work

one on one

>> with him everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We

will

>> continue to work w/ him. When he does respond, he is very

bright & very sweet.

>>

>> So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never

forgive

>> myself for stopping in the first place)Â any recommendations on a

curriculum? I

>> pulled out one of his level K readers and he read a word here or

there. He

>> acted like he didn't know how to read, yet if it something he wants

to find on

>> the internet to watch he can read through lists of words to find the

one he

>> wants, but can't read words like mom or mop? Come on, what's the

deal? Why

>> does this have to be such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm

frustrated

>> and it just ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS

HAVE TO BE SO

>> HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just

not one of

>> those days.

>>

>> From a very frustrated mom.

>>

>>

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I do think that an important factor to consider re: the public school question

is the issue of prosopagnosia. From anecdotal evidence it does appear that

although not every child with face recognition deficit is on the spectrum, there

are many kids on the spectrum who have prosopagnosia...This can make " the social

piece " in school pretty challenging. As a teacher and also a prosopagnosic

(though I am not on the spectrum), I do think that it is important that if a

typical school situation is chosen for the child, adults find ways in which to

offer identity info to the child.

Author of Understanding Facial Recognition Difficulties in Children (publisher:

Kingsley Press)

> >

> > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The

> > reason for this is because report cards came out again and he is below

> > level on reading and math. My son is in a room specifically designed

> > for children with autism. Now after seeing his S/N report card (he's

> > in first so they don't have letter grades for that level yet). I was

> > told they were pushed at school and he was being disagreeable with

> > them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when he got

> > here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school

> > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided

> > that it was a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also

> > thought that it may have something to do with the fact that he and

> > teacher may not get along (battle of wills thing).

> > Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he

> > is still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, " C

> > is continuing to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is

> > unresponsive. He appears to be more calm in the afternoon, but has

> > _NO_ interest in doing _ANY_ schoolwork. He will sometimes respond

> > verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one with him

> > everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will

> > continue to work w/ him. When he _does_ respond, he is very bright &

> > very sweet.:-)

> > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never

> > forgive myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations

> > on a curriculum? I pulled out one of his level K readers and he read

> > a word here or there. He acted like he didn't know how to read, yet

> > if it something he wants to find on the internet to watch he can read

> > through lists of words to find the one he wants, but can't read words

> > like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why does this have to be

> > such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated and it just

> > ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO

> > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just

> > not one of those days.

> > From a very frustrated mom.

> >

> >

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Thanks for that thought, however, in my son's case he recognizes each person in his life. He may not remember their name, but he knows them just the same. I can see how this could make an educational situation more difficult.

Re: homeschool vs. public

I do think that an important factor to consider re: the public school question is the issue of prosopagnosia. From anecdotal evidence it does appear that although not every child with face recognition deficit is on the spectrum, there are many kids on the spectrum who have prosopagnosia...This can make "the social piece" in school pretty challenging. As a teacher and also a prosopagnosic (though I am not on the spectrum), I do think that it is important that if a typical school situation is chosen for the child, adults find ways in which to offer identity info to the child.

Author of Understanding Facial Recognition Difficulties in Children (publisher: Kingsley Press)

> >

> > I would like to know who homeschools and who uses public school. The

> > reason for this is because report cards came out again and he is below

> > level on reading and math. My son is in a room specifically designed

> > for children with autism. Now after seeing his S/N report card (he's

> > in first so they don't have letter grades for that level yet). I was

> > told they were pushed at school and he was being disagreeable with

> > them. So I decided to let up at home and let him veg out when he got

> > here. Also b/c we just recently had a baby (shortly after school

> > started). The first 9 weeks grading period came out and we decided

> > that it was a combination of him having ADHD and the new baby. I also

> > thought that it may have something to do with the fact that he and

> > teacher may not get along (battle of wills thing).

> > Now today I get the 2nd 9 weeks report card and as I said earlier, he

> > is still working at below level and the comment reads as follows, "C

> > is continuing to chatter in class or else gazes into space and is

> > unresponsive. He appears to be more calm in the afternoon, but has

> > _NO_ interest in doing _ANY_ schoolwork. He will sometimes respond

> > verbally-and then fades out again. We work one on one with him

> > everyday-but most of the time he refuses to co-operate. We will

> > continue to work w/ him. When he _does_ respond, he is very bright &

> > very sweet.:-)

> > So apparently I need to supplement him at home (which I will never

> > forgive myself for stopping in the first place) any recommendations

> > on a curriculum? I pulled out one of his level K readers and he read

> > a word here or there. He acted like he didn't know how to read, yet

> > if it something he wants to find on the internet to watch he can read

> > through lists of words to find the one he wants, but can't read words

> > like mom or mop? Come on, what's the deal? Why does this have to be

> > such a fight constantly? He's frustrated, I'm frustrated and it just

> > ends in a fight and both of us crying. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO

> > HARD??? Somedays I can see the speciality in autism, today is just

> > not one of those days.

> > From a very frustrated mom.

> >

> >

>

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