RE: Homeschooling question??OT topic some what.

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Not really what you want to hear but kindy really is more about learning to

get along with others and learning ABC's then actual reading and writing.

Were all pretty gung ho in the beginning but after a few weeks realize we

need to adjust our expectations and at 5 school really doesn't need to be

more then 1 hour a day total to cover every thing even if you are going for

early academics (which usually means kids just get burned out earlier) so

doing 15 minutes here and there all day sounds more like what she needs

rather then a straight block of learning time which is very common in kids.

I remember even I had to take a 5 min break every 15 min as a kid, all in

all its really not such a big deal in the grand scheme of the day.

Homeschooling question??OT topic some what.

>I was wondering... I am having a difficult time trying to get Meghan-

> 5 1/2 to sit and look at books. She has no patience what so ever. We

> are homeschooling her now because of health related issues with her

> CVID and Di Syndrome complication's. We go into the school for

> her speech therapy, and physical therapy's still. Does anyone else

> Homeschool their children on the group? What are some of your way's

> when you started out to get them to pay attention to you? This is only

> our third week at it. She was in school for about 2 weeks was so run

> down and tired all the time that we chose this for her. It has sort

> of been working it's just the paying attention part I am having

> trouble with. She pay's attention for about 15 min then eye's start

> wondering off. She's been doing pretty good with writing, and some

> other things.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

15 minutes is reasonable for a 5 year old. If you read 15 minutes 4x a day she

will get what she needs. Most kids books are even faster than that.

Gluten Free <glutenfree@...> wrote: Not really what you want to

hear but kindy really is more about learning to

get along with others and learning ABC's then actual reading and writing.

Were all pretty gung ho in the beginning but after a few weeks realize we

need to adjust our expectations and at 5 school really doesn't need to be

more then 1 hour a day total to cover every thing even if you are going for

early academics (which usually means kids just get burned out earlier) so

doing 15 minutes here and there all day sounds more like what she needs

rather then a straight block of learning time which is very common in kids.

I remember even I had to take a 5 min break every 15 min as a kid, all in

all its really not such a big deal in the grand scheme of the day.

Homeschooling question??OT topic some what.

>I was wondering... I am having a difficult time trying to get Meghan-

> 5 1/2 to sit and look at books. She has no patience what so ever. We

> are homeschooling her now because of health related issues with her

> CVID and Di Syndrome complication's. We go into the school for

> her speech therapy, and physical therapy's still. Does anyone else

> Homeschool their children on the group? What are some of your way's

> when you started out to get them to pay attention to you? This is only

> our third week at it. She was in school for about 2 weeks was so run

> down and tired all the time that we chose this for her. It has sort

> of been working it's just the paying attention part I am having

> trouble with. She pay's attention for about 15 min then eye's start

> wondering off. She's been doing pretty good with writing, and some

> other things.

>

>

>

> This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a

> Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the

> sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional

> advice.

>

> To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT)

> To search group archives go to:

> /messages

>

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>

>

> I was wondering.. She pay's attention for about 15 min then eye's start

> wondering off. She's been doing pretty good with writing, and some

> other things.

>

, I'm not currently homeschooling -- but I homeschooled my kids from

K to 12 and they both got into their #1 college choice. So, I

consider myself to have succeeded!

You are hearing good information -- at 5, they don't need " formal "

education. In fact forcing it is the leading cause of learning problems.

I used lots of " home " education -- like helping me cook, put away

dishes, fold clothes, just incorporating them into my life. I read a

lot with them, and we played games. One that I remember was letting

them chose a letter (or me choosing) and then they would try to spot

things that began with that letter. We could play it in the grocery

store, the doctor's office, driving, or at home. I think it helped them

learn their letters. As they got better at knowing what started with

what letter -- I would declare " That truck up there is carrying " J "

words -- and they would begin naming everything that they could think of

that " might " be in the truck -- jungles, janitors, jacks, juice, etc.

We did a LOT of laughing and silliness -- not a lot of formal. In fact

we didn't even start a " formal " program until mid-year 2nd grade. We

also liked to plant things and watch them grow (that counts as science).

If you've never planted a sweet potato sprout -- you've missed a lot

of fun! Another thing we started was a " I am growing book " -- every

month we measured - height and weight of course -- but anything they

wanted to measure -- their feet, their big toe, their neck, their

armspan, etc.

The other thing I really want to encourage you to do is read some books

about the early years of homeschooling. My favorite I believe was

. It will encourage you to relax and enjoy your child, take

advantage of teachable moments.

Now, that said -- I don't consider this discussion to be far off-topic

because so many of our PID kids have to spend time at home even if they

are not being " home educated. " Any activities that keep them learning

is important.

When Katy was 13, she literally missed a whole year of school because

she was too sick to concentrate. All we did that whole year was for me

to read aloud to her - mostly just classic or light reading. She really

didn't lose much ground and was able to catch up before graduation.

God bless you as you discover the joys of home education and throw away

the boring ideas of sitting in a classroom listening to a teacher!

In His service,

dale

[Guest guest]

Dale,

Thanks for all the idea's I will defiently try them,

Dale Weatherford <dale@...> wrote:

wrote:

>

>

> I was wondering.. She pay's attention for about 15 min then eye's start

> wondering off. She's been doing pretty good with writing, and some

> other things.

>

, I'm not currently homeschooling -- but I homeschooled my kids from

K to 12 and they both got into their #1 college choice. So, I

consider myself to have succeeded!

You are hearing good information -- at 5, they don't need " formal "

education. In fact forcing it is the leading cause of learning problems.

I used lots of " home " education -- like helping me cook, put away

dishes, fold clothes, just incorporating them into my life. I read a

lot with them, and we played games. One that I remember was letting

them chose a letter (or me choosing) and then they would try to spot

things that began with that letter. We could play it in the grocery

store, the doctor's office, driving, or at home. I think it helped them

learn their letters. As they got better at knowing what started with

what letter -- I would declare " That truck up there is carrying " J "

words -- and they would begin naming everything that they could think of

that " might " be in the truck -- jungles, janitors, jacks, juice, etc.

We did a LOT of laughing and silliness -- not a lot of formal. In fact

we didn't even start a " formal " program until mid-year 2nd grade. We

also liked to plant things and watch them grow (that counts as science).

If you've never planted a sweet potato sprout -- you've missed a lot

of fun! Another thing we started was a " I am growing book " -- every

month we measured - height and weight of course -- but anything they

wanted to measure -- their feet, their big toe, their neck, their

armspan, etc.

The other thing I really want to encourage you to do is read some books

about the early years of homeschooling. My favorite I believe was

. It will encourage you to relax and enjoy your child, take

advantage of teachable moments.

Now, that said -- I don't consider this discussion to be far off-topic

because so many of our PID kids have to spend time at home even if they

are not being " home educated. " Any activities that keep them learning

is important.

When Katy was 13, she literally missed a whole year of school because

she was too sick to concentrate. All we did that whole year was for me

to read aloud to her - mostly just classic or light reading. She really

didn't lose much ground and was able to catch up before graduation.

God bless you as you discover the joys of home education and throw away

the boring ideas of sitting in a classroom listening to a teacher!

In His service,

dale

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

We've homeschooled our kids (healthy and non-healthy) for nine years now.

My youngest is in 1st grade now. For 5.5 yo, fifteen minutes of attention,

especially concentrated attention that you get with one-on-one instruction,

is terrific progress.

If she struggles to do fifteen minutes, I'd be tempted to do school in 10

minutes chunks of time, followed by half an hour or so of playtime. Let's be

honest: much of kindergarten time is playtime because the kids can't pay

attention.

You may want to " power through school " to get it done, but a kid just can't

take it that fast-particularly a child who isn't feeling their best.

One-on-one tutoring is very intensive and, even now, my kids need breaks

long before I feel that they need a break....and my oldest is in 8th grade!

Pam

Mom to 4

Rebekah, CVID+

Trialing off IVIG since May...and no major illnesses yet!!!!! PTL

[Guest guest]

Do you think that they do better with breaks inbetween things? Someone else sent

me a email about that. I was trying to rewrite our schedule that I have to

include some breaks. I keep a schedule for the whole week and try to keep on

track as much as possible. Thank to You all.

Pam Mork <pmork@...> wrote:

We've homeschooled our kids (healthy and non-healthy) for nine years

now.

My youngest is in 1st grade now. For 5.5 yo, fifteen minutes of attention,

especially concentrated attention that you get with one-on-one instruction,

is terrific progress.

If she struggles to do fifteen minutes, I'd be tempted to do school in 10

minutes chunks of time, followed by half an hour or so of playtime. Let's be

honest: much of kindergarten time is playtime because the kids can't pay

attention.

You may want to " power through school " to get it done, but a kid just can't

take it that fast-particularly a child who isn't feeling their best.

One-on-one tutoring is very intensive and, even now, my kids need breaks

long before I feel that they need a break....and my oldest is in 8th grade!

Pam

Mom to 4

Rebekah, CVID+

Trialing off IVIG since May...and no major illnesses yet!!!!! PTL

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

We have also chosen to homeschool our children. It all started when

Mollie (our PID) was about 6 months old. With severe food allergies,

PID, and sensory integration, I knew the best place for her would be at

home. I taught preschool and kindergarten in the public school for 13

years and decided to bring our older children home last year also.

They are now 4th grade, 1st grade, and Mollie is in kindergarten, with

a 3 yr old also.

I give all of my kids breaks after working hard, depending on their age

and how long they work. Even when I taught public school kindergarten,

you were lucky to get a good 20 minutes of attention. There is no need

to push, work for a bit and then play or have fun. 15 minutes for a

new and young kindergartener would be very normal.

Good luck! We are positive homeschooling is the right choice for our

family and medical issues. Rita

Does anyone else

> Homeschool their children on the group? What are some of your way's

> when you started out to get them to pay attention to you? This is

only

> our third week at it.

[Guest guest]

I know some families who give their kids the entire day as a break (get all of

their energy out of their systems and have fun playing) and then hoemschool at

night when they are ready to sit down and concentrate. I don't do this with my

kids, but there is really no right or wrong way -- do what works for your

family.

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RE: Homeschooling question??OT topic some what.

Do you think that they do better with breaks inbetween things? Someone else sent

me a email about that. I was trying to rewrite our schedule that I have to

include some breaks. I keep a schedule for the whole week and try to keep on

track as much as possible. Thank to You all.

Pam Mork <pmorkgloria (DOT) cord.edu> wrote:

We've homeschooled our kids (healthy and non-healthy) for nine years now.

My youngest is in 1st grade now. For 5.5 yo, fifteen minutes of attention,

especially concentrated attention that you get with one-on-one instruction,

is terrific progress.

If she struggles to do fifteen minutes, I'd be tempted to do school in 10

minutes chunks of time, followed by half an hour or so of playtime. Let's be

honest: much of kindergarten time is playtime because the kids can't pay

attention.

You may want to " power through school " to get it done, but a kid just can't

take it that fast-particularly a child who isn't feeling their best.

One-on-one tutoring is very intensive and, even now, my kids need breaks

long before I feel that they need a break....and my oldest is in 8th grade!

Pam

Mom to 4

Rebekah, CVID+

Trialing off IVIG since May...and no major illnesses yet!!!!! PTL

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

As others have written, most homeschoolers don't start a formal education until

7 or 8. I would let her do hands on things like cooking and art and gardening.

Now's a good time to do musical instruments and learn yoga or something that

teaches body awareness and discipline. At 5, I started my oldest on the

Japanese abacus which she really liked. She learned how to do the finger

manipulations to music. She is now a math wiz & will always have a deeply

ingrained math foundation. We also did lots with foreign language. We used a

combination of software and social clubs (ie: homeschooler's spanish club).

Just this year, my oldest started with a formal schedule & traditional subjects.

I can not believe how fast she is breezing through it all. She is a grade ahead

in her weakest subject and 2 grades ahead in her better subjects. I really

think it's because I let her be creative and let her think and question as a

younger child instead of making her

sit and listen and memorize. We did more exploring and conversing when she was

K-2. This year, she created her own school schedule. She used a computer

program and broke down her subjects into four 1/2 days of school. She picked

the order and days for each subject and then picked a theme for each day (love

for 2 days, hope, happiness for the other 2). She used different colors and

fonts. Now I would've never come up with that & since it's her education, I'm

glad she got to choose and show me what was important to her (lots of love, hope

and happiness). So in other words, relax and have fun and help them enjoy their

childhood at this stage of the game.

-

Homeschooling question??OT topic some what.

I was wondering... I am having a difficult time trying to get Meghan-

5 1/2 to sit and look at books. She has no patience what so ever. We

are homeschooling her now because of health related issues with her

CVID and Di Syndrome complication' s. We go into the school for

her speech therapy, and physical therapy's still. Does anyone else

Homeschool their children on the group? What are some of your way's

when you started out to get them to pay attention to you? This is only

our third week at it. She was in school for about 2 weeks was so run

down and tired all the time that we chose this for her. It has sort

of been working it's just the paying attention part I am having

trouble with. She pay's attention for about 15 min then eye's start

wondering off. She's been doing pretty good with writing, and some

other things.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Do you think that they do better with breaks inbetween things?

Yes, I do think that kindergarteners need breaks. If she can only

concentrate for 15 minutes, praise her for concentrating that long

(attention span is generally equivalent to age, so a 5yo should pay

attention for 5 minutes) and encourage her to go play. You go off and do

some adult work (or check email) and plan on meeting again with her in about

an hour.

Pam

Mom to 4

Rebekah, CVID+

Trialing off IVIG since May

[Guest guest]

This weekend I sat down and tried to come up with somewhat of a schedule for

her.

I am going to give a try with a few breaks in-between. to see if that helps

with her being able to concentrate. I'll let you all know how it goe's thanks so

much,

Rob or Sunseri <RobRose@...> wrote:

I know some families who give their kids the entire day as a break

(get all of their energy out of their systems and have fun playing) and then

hoemschool at night when they are ready to sit down and concentrate. I don't do

this with my kids, but there is really no right or wrong way -- do what works

for your family.

-

RE: Homeschooling question??OT topic some what.

Do you think that they do better with breaks inbetween things? Someone else sent

me a email about that. I was trying to rewrite our schedule that I have to

include some breaks. I keep a schedule for the whole week and try to keep on

track as much as possible. Thank to You all.

Pam Mork <pmorkgloria (DOT) cord.edu> wrote:

We've homeschooled our kids (healthy and non-healthy) for nine years now.

My youngest is in 1st grade now. For 5.5 yo, fifteen minutes of attention,

especially concentrated attention that you get with one-on-one instruction,

is terrific progress.

If she struggles to do fifteen minutes, I'd be tempted to do school in 10

minutes chunks of time, followed by half an hour or so of playtime. Let's be

honest: much of kindergarten time is playtime because the kids can't pay

attention.

You may want to " power through school " to get it done, but a kid just can't

take it that fast-particularly a child who isn't feeling their best.

One-on-one tutoring is very intensive and, even now, my kids need breaks

long before I feel that they need a break....and my oldest is in 8th grade!

Pam

Mom to 4

Rebekah, CVID+

Trialing off IVIG since May...and no major illnesses yet!!!!! PTL

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __