Re: Creativity and Enhancing Cognition

[Guest guest]

I recently got an HEG system from itallis.com, the advantage with their

equipment is that you don't need to have an 8 channel reading and their

benefits are to par with the most expensive ones, besides it does not make their

readings like the EEG but through the hemoglobin, it prevents misreadings and is

many times easier to use, search on it. Besides it is less than $2k and if you

desire they have a training system that is phenomenal. Check their website where

it says training.

[Guest guest]

Dear gtdev87,

ANY and all neurofeedback systems will enhance calmness, creativity, IQ, etc. That's what neurofeedback does. What you want is a system is that is affordable and easy enough to learn to use with skill. Despite what marketers say, Neurofeedback is not necessarily a 'cookbook' application (just stick the sensors 'here' and run 'this' protocol). Of course, the choice to start with the HEG is probably a good one, because it is simple to learn, and is as close to 'cookbook' as neurofeedback gets.

When you get into reading EEG, which sites on the head to train, and what to reward and inhibit, etc, you'll need an assessment tool. (Not every head is the same, and you can cause problems if you assume things without actually looking and knowing how to interpret what you see.) For that, for the money, I'd go with the TLC assessment and 's trainings. Priceless, in my opinion, for a novice. And this is from someone who has used many systems, and still does, for the past 10 years.

Best regards,

St. Clair

West Bloomfield, MI

Creativity and Enhancing Cognition

Hey,I am a 24 year old male looking into neurofeedback and biofeedback.My interests are using it to enhance my own, my family and friends creativity and cognitive abilities and just general interest and research. I tend to be a high stress individual and have the learning disabilities dyslexia and Mixed receptive-expressive language disorder and I am looking into seeing if I can treat them.I have done some research on this technology through the powerful medium of Google search. One of the most intriguing things I have found is the Biocybernaut Institute. They claim to help with stress, creativity, IQ and a myriad of self enhancing cognitive benefits. One day I would like to run a company and being calm, cool and creative would be great for getting work done.I am the kind of person that likes to do research before making purchases and I have not yet delved deep enough into EEG technology to feel comfortable with buying a machine and investing 100+ hours (However I have ordered an HEM NIR Headset as a starting point ). I was wondering what kind of EEG and software would I need to use to do the neurofeedback that is similar to the Biocybernaut Institute to enhance creativity, relaxation and IQ? I am interested but not $15k interested unless I can replicate the benefit... and even so its 15k.My petty research: It seems as though they use an 8 channel EEG where 4 channels are actively reading. I remember reading about sites: (O1, O2, C3, C4, T3, T4, F3, F4.) I do not know enough about monopolar vs bipolar electrodes to understand what kind of machine they need to be used with. Do any of the TLC Designs or Itallis Designs have similar benefits for creativity (which I'm most interested in)?Thanks

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He just said he already ordered HEG but is now looking into NF. A bit confusing because he called it HEM (short for HemoWhatever) but clearly that's what he meant.I looked at the BioCynbernaut " Institute " and I would never buy anything from somebody who markets that way. When Pete Van Deusen responds you'll get a considered answer.

If you want to look up creativity and EEG a good name is (I think it's ) Gruzelier (he's in England). But a lot of people who do NF talk about enhancement of creativity (of course, you have to think about what you mean by " creativity " )

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM, william s <willynyc61@...> wrote:

 

I recently got an HEG system from itallis.com, the advantage with their equipment is that you don't need to have an 8 channel reading and their benefits are to par with the most expensive ones, besides it does not make their readings like the EEG but through the hemoglobin, it prevents misreadings and is many times easier to use, search on it. Besides it is less than $2k and if you desire they have a training system that is phenomenal. Check their website where it says training.

-- Margoshes, Ph.D.New York State Licensed Psychologist

[Guest guest]

Sorry about that. I meant HEG. I'm notoriously known for spelling errors.

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> > benefits are to par with the most expensive ones, besides it does not make

> > their readings like the EEG but through the hemoglobin, it prevents

> > misreadings and is many times easier to use, search on it. Besides it is

> > less than $2k and if you desire they have a training system that is

> > phenomenal. Check their website where it says training.

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Actually Biocybernaut, despite the kind of cheesy feel to some of their promotional stuff, is Jim Hardt's site, and Hardt is one of the great minds (and smaller egos) of NF.  He is an alpha guy--like Les Fehmi--so he pretty much focuses on getting you to produce synchronous alpha (also like Fehmi).  That's a swell thing to do unless you already HAVE lots of synchronous alpha, or unless you have some issues that are blocking you from producing it.  If you buy the $10-grand week at BioCybernaut, you get a lot of testing and counseling along with the brain training.  But you can surely do alpha synchrony (or alpha and theta or alpha and gamma) using the amplifier/software package we sell ( 

http://www.brain-trainer.com/equipment/eegproduct.html  ).  Your decision in EEG will be between places that offer one-size-fits-all approaches and others which look at activation patterns and produce a customized plan for the specific brain and objectives.  The TLC system allows you to do all that with any of our amplifiers as well as training, and it keeps your cost down.  If you are starting off and need help learning the basic skills (finding sites, placing electrodes, producing clean signals), we have tools to help with that process. In that case, you may prefer to buy one of the packages ( 

http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=75 ).If you are starting with HEG and Bioexplorer, as others have stated, your start up time will be nil.  If you bought from brain-trainer.com, set up your free installation/demonstration online session.  We'll make sure everything is set up properly and we'll walk you your first HEG session.  I'd suggest staying with that for a month or so, getting comfortable with the software and the training process and hopefully getting some results in your real life.  Then, if you decide to start up the learning curve on EEG, you'll be a few steps down the road.

If you want to chat about this some time, send me an email at pvdtlc@... with some times you could speak with me, and we'll set up a time to try to get your questions answered.

Good luck,Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com

USA 678 224 5895BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:11 AM, gtdev87 <gregt87@...> wrote:

I am a 24 year old male looking into neurofeedback and biofeedback.  My interests are using it to enhance my own, my family and friends creativity and cognitive abilities and just general interest and research. I tend to be a high stress individual and have the learning disabilities dyslexia and Mixed receptive-expressive language disorder and I am looking into seeing if I can treat them.

I have done some research on this technology through the powerful medium of Google search. One of the most intriguing things I have found is the Biocybernaut Institute. They claim to help with stress, creativity, IQ and a myriad of self enhancing cognitive benefits. One day I would like to run a company and being calm, cool and creative would be great for getting work done.

I am the kind of person that likes to do research before making purchases and I have not yet delved deep enough into EEG technology to feel comfortable with buying a machine and investing 100+ hours (However I have ordered an HEM NIR Headset as a starting point ). I was wondering what kind of EEG and software would I need to use to do the neurofeedback that is similar to the Biocybernaut Institute to enhance creativity, relaxation and IQ? I am interested but not $15k interested unless I can replicate the benefit... and even so its 15k.

My petty research: It seems as though they use an 8 channel EEG where 4 channels are actively reading. I remember reading about sites: (O1, O2, C3, C4, T3, T4, F3, F4.) I do not know enough about monopolar vs bipolar electrodes to understand what kind of machine they need to be used with. Do any of the TLC Designs or Itallis Designs have similar benefits for creativity (which I'm most interested in)?

Thanks

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I'll stick with the HEG for now. I'll wait on the EEG because I'm still not

sure how much added advantage 4 channel synchrony (or higher) has over 2 channel

synchrony but I'll do more research before I make a decision. If someone has

any good reading source on neurofeedback I would love to read more about it.

If 2 channels can do everything that more channels can do then I'm perfectly

fine with getting a 2 channel system. However, I would prefer to buy something

that is more flexible than to buy something which is less and realize I want

more functionality. The equipment isn't exactly trivially cheap. And this

seems like a perfect piece of technology for amateur scientific research.

Thank you for all your replies

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> > I am a 24 year old male looking into neurofeedback and biofeedback. My

> > interests are using it to enhance my own, my family and friends creativity

> > and cognitive abilities and just general interest and research. I tend to

> > be a high stress individual and have the learning disabilities dyslexia and

> > Mixed receptive-expressive language disorder and I am looking into seeing

> > if I can treat them.

> >

> > I have done some research on this technology through the powerful medium

> > of Google search. One of the most intriguing things I have found is the

> > Biocybernaut Institute. They claim to help with stress, creativity, IQ and

> > a myriad of self enhancing cognitive benefits. One day I would like to run

> > a company and being calm, cool and creative would be great for getting work

> > done.

> >

> > I am the kind of person that likes to do research before making purchases

> > and I have not yet delved deep enough into EEG technology to feel

> > comfortable with buying a machine and investing 100+ hours (However I have

> > ordered an HEM NIR Headset as a starting point ). I was wondering what

> > kind of EEG and software would I need to use to do the neurofeedback that

> > is similar to the Biocybernaut Institute to enhance creativity, relaxation

> > and IQ? I am interested but not $15k interested unless I can replicate the

> > benefit... and even so its 15k.

> >

> > My petty research: It seems as though they use an 8 channel EEG where 4

> > channels are actively reading. I remember reading about sites: (O1, O2, C3,

> > C4, T3, T4, F3, F4.) I do not know enough about monopolar vs bipolar

> > electrodes to understand what kind of machine they need to be used with. Do

> > any of the TLC Designs or Itallis Designs have similar benefits for

> > creativity (which I'm most interested in)?

> >

> > Thanks

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