Re: Having a tone replace another tone in BE

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You need to add four Expression Evaluators, the output of each of which would be the triggering input for each of the four tones.

Each of the four Expression Evaluatora should contain this expression: If ((In1 =1.0), 0.0, In2)

The input to In1 comes from the output that triggers the single all-four tone.

When In1 is 1.0, zeroes would then be passed to each of the four tones, preventing them from sounding.

When Jn1 is 0.0, the expression would then pass the individual signals present at In2. Each of these inputs to In2 would come from a trigger for one of the four separate tones.

From: Zumbach

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:41 PM

Subject: Having a tone replace another tone in BE

Hey everyone,

I'm wondering if anyone with more BioExplorer experience than myself would be willing to help me figure out if it is possible to have a tone event be replaced by another one after a second parameter is met.

Specifically I'm wanting to have four channels make individual tones for alpha amplitude increases and then to have those tones replaced by a different tone when all four channels summed together break a separate threshold. I tried having all four channels each play an individual tone and then having a deeper bass tone play over the quieter tones, kind of overpowering them, but it was too much noise and made both my headphones and speakers make weird crackling noises... it was not what I would call optimal alpha enhancing feedback :-)

Thanks to anyone who knows if this is possible or not!

Zumbach

[Guest guest]

You need to add four Expression Evaluators, the output of each of which would be the triggering input for each of the four tones.

Each of the four Expression Evaluatora should contain this expression: If ((In1 =1.0), 0.0, In2)

The input to In1 comes from the output that triggers the single all-four tone.

When In1 is 1.0, zeroes would then be passed to each of the four tones, preventing them from sounding.

When Jn1 is 0.0, the expression would then pass the individual signals present at In2. Each of these inputs to In2 would come from a trigger for one of the four separate tones.

From: Zumbach

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:41 PM

Subject: Having a tone replace another tone in BE

Hey everyone,

I'm wondering if anyone with more BioExplorer experience than myself would be willing to help me figure out if it is possible to have a tone event be replaced by another one after a second parameter is met.

Specifically I'm wanting to have four channels make individual tones for alpha amplitude increases and then to have those tones replaced by a different tone when all four channels summed together break a separate threshold. I tried having all four channels each play an individual tone and then having a deeper bass tone play over the quieter tones, kind of overpowering them, but it was too much noise and made both my headphones and speakers make weird crackling noises... it was not what I would call optimal alpha enhancing feedback :-)

Thanks to anyone who knows if this is possible or not!

Zumbach

[Guest guest]

Do you think the brain can actually sort out and make brain-sense out of all those tones?LizOn Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Larry <llewis@...> wrote:

 

You need to add four Expression Evaluators, the output of each of which would be the triggering input for each of the four tones.  

 

Each of the four Expression Evaluatora should contain this expression:  If ((In1 =1.0), 0.0, In2)

The input to In1 comes from the output that triggers the single all-four tone.  

When In1 is 1.0, zeroes  would then be passed to each of the four tones, preventing them from sounding.

When Jn1 is 0.0,  the expression would then pass the individual signals present at In2.  Each of these inputs to In2 would come from a trigger for one of the four separate tones.

 

From: Zumbach

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:41 PM

Subject: Having a tone replace another tone in BE

 

 

Hey everyone,  

I'm wondering if anyone with more BioExplorer experience than myself would be willing to help me figure out if it is possible to have a tone event be replaced by another one after a  second parameter is met. 

 

Specifically I'm wanting to have four channels make individual tones for alpha amplitude increases and then to have those tones replaced by a different tone when all four channels summed together break a separate threshold.  I tried having all four channels each play an individual tone and then having a deeper bass tone play over the quieter tones, kind of overpowering them, but it was too much noise and made both my headphones and speakers make weird crackling noises... it was not what I would call optimal alpha enhancing feedback  :-)

 

Thanks to anyone who knows if this is possible or not!

Zumbach

 

-- Margoshes, Ph.D.New York State Licensed Psychologist

[Guest guest]

Larry, Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it.  I actually had my doubts that it was possible!  I'll try out your strategy this weekend and report back on how it went.  

Liz,I was reading about some of Jim Hardt's work and he had a similar strategy of tiering the feedback so that when the brain was doing particularly well the audio output would change in certain ways to let the client know they were at peak performance.  The people I have been hooking up have articulated a desire to know when they are doing better than normal as well.  I'll share how the modifications work out with the group.

DZOn Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Margoshes <drmargoshes@...> wrote:

 

Do you think the brain can actually sort out and make brain-sense out of all those tones?Liz 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Larry <llewis@...> wrote:

 

You need to add four Expression Evaluators, the output of each of which would be the triggering input for each of the four tones.  

 

Each of the four Expression Evaluatora should contain this expression:  If ((In1 =1.0), 0.0, In2)

The input to In1 comes from the output that triggers the single all-four tone.  

When In1 is 1.0, zeroes  would then be passed to each of the four tones, preventing them from sounding.

When Jn1 is 0.0,  the expression would then pass the individual signals present at In2.  Each of these inputs to In2 would come from a trigger for one of the four separate tones.

 

From: Zumbach

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:41 PM

Subject: Having a tone replace another tone in BE

 

 

Hey everyone,  

I'm wondering if anyone with more BioExplorer experience than myself would be willing to help me figure out if it is possible to have a tone event be replaced by another one after a  second parameter is met. 

 

Specifically I'm wanting to have four channels make individual tones for alpha amplitude increases and then to have those tones replaced by a different tone when all four channels summed together break a separate threshold.  I tried having all four channels each play an individual tone and then having a deeper bass tone play over the quieter tones, kind of overpowering them, but it was too much noise and made both my headphones and speakers make weird crackling noises... it was not what I would call optimal alpha enhancing feedback  :-)

 

Thanks to anyone who knows if this is possible or not!

Zumbach

 

-- Margoshes, Ph.D.New York State Licensed Psychologist

[Guest guest]

Cool, , and sorry to butt in. - LizOn Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Zumbach <zumbach@...> wrote:

 

Larry, Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it.  I actually had my doubts that it was possible!  I'll try out your strategy this weekend and report back on how it went.  

Liz,I was reading about some of Jim Hardt's work and he had a similar strategy of tiering the feedback so that when the brain was doing particularly well the audio output would change in certain ways to let the client know they were at peak performance.  The people I have been hooking up have articulated a desire to know when they are doing better than normal as well.  I'll share how the modifications work out with the group.

DZOn Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Margoshes <drmargoshes@...> wrote:

 

Do you think the brain can actually sort out and make brain-sense out of all those tones?Liz 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Larry <llewis@...> wrote:

 

You need to add four Expression Evaluators, the output of each of which would be the triggering input for each of the four tones.  

 

Each of the four Expression Evaluatora should contain this expression:  If ((In1 =1.0), 0.0, In2)

The input to In1 comes from the output that triggers the single all-four tone.  

When In1 is 1.0, zeroes  would then be passed to each of the four tones, preventing them from sounding.

When Jn1 is 0.0,  the expression would then pass the individual signals present at In2.  Each of these inputs to In2 would come from a trigger for one of the four separate tones.

 

From: Zumbach

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:41 PM

Subject: Having a tone replace another tone in BE

 

 

Hey everyone,  

I'm wondering if anyone with more BioExplorer experience than myself would be willing to help me figure out if it is possible to have a tone event be replaced by another one after a  second parameter is met. 

 

Specifically I'm wanting to have four channels make individual tones for alpha amplitude increases and then to have those tones replaced by a different tone when all four channels summed together break a separate threshold.  I tried having all four channels each play an individual tone and then having a deeper bass tone play over the quieter tones, kind of overpowering them, but it was too much noise and made both my headphones and speakers make weird crackling noises... it was not what I would call optimal alpha enhancing feedback  :-)

 

Thanks to anyone who knows if this is possible or not!

Zumbach

 

-- Margoshes, Ph.D.New York State Licensed Psychologist

-- Margoshes, Ph.D.New York State Licensed Psychologist

[Guest guest]

not at all Liz, :-)On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Margoshes <drmargoshes@...> wrote:

 

Cool, , and sorry to butt in. - LizOn Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Zumbach <zumbach@...> wrote:

 

Larry, Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it.  I actually had my doubts that it was possible!  I'll try out your strategy this weekend and report back on how it went.  

Liz,I was reading about some of Jim Hardt's work and he had a similar strategy of tiering the feedback so that when the brain was doing particularly well the audio output would change in certain ways to let the client know they were at peak performance.  The people I have been hooking up have articulated a desire to know when they are doing better than normal as well.  I'll share how the modifications work out with the group.

DZOn Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Margoshes <drmargoshes@...> wrote:

 

Do you think the brain can actually sort out and make brain-sense out of all those tones?Liz 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Larry <llewis@...> wrote:

 

You need to add four Expression Evaluators, the output of each of which would be the triggering input for each of the four tones.  

 

Each of the four Expression Evaluatora should contain this expression:  If ((In1 =1.0), 0.0, In2)

The input to In1 comes from the output that triggers the single all-four tone.  

When In1 is 1.0, zeroes  would then be passed to each of the four tones, preventing them from sounding.

When Jn1 is 0.0,  the expression would then pass the individual signals present at In2.  Each of these inputs to In2 would come from a trigger for one of the four separate tones.

 

From: Zumbach

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:41 PM

Subject: Having a tone replace another tone in BE

 

 

Hey everyone,  

I'm wondering if anyone with more BioExplorer experience than myself would be willing to help me figure out if it is possible to have a tone event be replaced by another one after a  second parameter is met. 

 

Specifically I'm wanting to have four channels make individual tones for alpha amplitude increases and then to have those tones replaced by a different tone when all four channels summed together break a separate threshold.  I tried having all four channels each play an individual tone and then having a deeper bass tone play over the quieter tones, kind of overpowering them, but it was too much noise and made both my headphones and speakers make weird crackling noises... it was not what I would call optimal alpha enhancing feedback  :-)

 

Thanks to anyone who knows if this is possible or not!

Zumbach

 

-- Margoshes, Ph.D.New York State Licensed Psychologist

-- Margoshes, Ph.D.New York State Licensed Psychologist