Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 neo-reality@... [neo-reality@...] wrote: > What do you folks make of the following article? > http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/ironman/nutrition/fatburning_firestorm. > htm a magazine pandering to the interests of one its major advertisers? if you are asking how well this stuff works. try it and let us know, if this stuff does contain T2, too much and you can blow your thyroid and be on T3 pills for the rest of your life. Ill give you some missing pieces, DNP is an explosive, it will dramatically raise your body temperature, you will sweat while siting in an air conditioned room. get the dose wrong and your friends will be rushing you to the nearest emergency ward. he kind of forgot to mention that. usnic acid is nowhere near as potent as DNP. will it work? probably to some degree. however if this stuff is so potent at loosing fat, why would he suggest you can use it for up to 4 months? Deus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 Deus, how did I know you'd give a solid response? :-) Tell me, my friend, are there any supplements you'd recommend (or at least give the okay to) that will accomplish what he says those supplements will? Thanks, Andy > > What do you folks make of the following article? > > http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/ironman/nutrition/fatburning_firestorm. > > htm > > a magazine pandering to the interests of one its major advertisers? > > if you are asking how well this stuff works. try it and let us know, > if this stuff does contain T2, too much and you can blow your thyroid and > be on T3 pills for the rest of your life. > > Ill give you some missing pieces, DNP is an explosive, it will dramatically > raise your body temperature, you will sweat while siting in an air conditioned > room. get the dose wrong and your friends will be rushing you to the nearest > emergency ward. he kind of forgot to mention that. usnic acid is nowhere near > as potent as DNP. will it work? probably to some degree. > > however if this stuff is so potent at loosing fat, > why would he suggest you can use it for up to 4 months? > > Deus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 > alapha lipoic acid, vanadium, possible chromium for insulin > resistance and glucose disposal. grape seed extract and vitamin e > for antioxidants. creatine loading for pushing past peak > performance. BCAAs pre/post exercise. glutamine, melatonin and APGL > as GH secretaguogues. ECA for BMR boosting although I dont like it > much myself. thats about it, anything else that works requires a > prescription. Okay, thanks. Of those, if you had to choose just one which one would it be? Thanks again, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 neo-reality@... [neo-reality@...] wrote: > > > alapha lipoic acid, vanadium, possible chromium for insulin > > resistance and glucose disposal. grape seed extract and vitamin e > > for antioxidants. creatine loading for pushing past peak > > performance. BCAAs pre/post exercise. glutamine, melatonin and APGL > > as GH secretaguogues. ECA for BMR boosting although I dont like it > > much myself. thats about it, anything else that works requires a > > prescription. > > Okay, thanks. Of those, if you had to choose just one which one > would it be? depends what you are trying to do. they all do a different job. Deus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 Deus Ex Machina [vicc@...] wrote: > neo-reality@... [neo-reality@...] wrote: > > > > > alapha lipoic acid, vanadium, possible chromium for insulin > > > resistance and glucose disposal. grape seed extract and vitamin e > > > for antioxidants. creatine loading for pushing past peak > > > performance. BCAAs pre/post exercise. glutamine, melatonin and APGL > > > as GH secretaguogues. ECA for BMR boosting although I dont like it > > > much myself. thats about it, anything else that works requires a > > > prescription. > > > > Okay, thanks. Of those, if you had to choose just one which one > > would it be? > > depends what you are trying to do. they all do a different job. actually I forgot glucosamine/chondrointin, without which I wouldnt be able to do my squats. its only since supplementing with glucosamine/chondroitin that I can do squats without knee pain. if I had only enough money to buy one it would be glucosamine/chondrointin. Deus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 Fat loss, more than anything else. > > > alapha lipoic acid, vanadium, possible chromium for insulin > > > resistance and glucose disposal. grape seed extract and vitamin e > > > for antioxidants. creatine loading for pushing past peak > > > performance. BCAAs pre/post exercise. glutamine, melatonin and APGL > > > as GH secretaguogues. ECA for BMR boosting although I dont like it > > > much myself. thats about it, anything else that works requires a > > > prescription. > > > > Okay, thanks. Of those, if you had to choose just one which one > > would it be? > > depends what you are trying to do. they all do a different job. > > Deus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 neo-reality@... [neo-reality@...] wrote: > Fat loss, more than anything else. Ephedrine-caffeine-aspirin stack, cold water. Deus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 hey andy, i'm not authorized to check it out (not subscribed):-( what was the jist? you have alot of interesting things to say, would like to hear about this one. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 > > Fat loss, more than anything else. > > Ephedrine-caffeine-aspirin stack, cold water. OK, this is good to know. Now, can I get that " stack " in one source? Thanks, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 neo-reality@... [neo-reality@...] wrote: > > > > Fat loss, more than anything else. > > > > Ephedrine-caffeine-aspirin stack, cold water. > > OK, this is good to know. Now, can I get that " stack " in one source? ephedrine is often refered to as ma huang, caffeine as guarana and aspirin as some bark I forget its name. but you will find it cheaper to buy the pieces separately. 20mg ephedrine, 200mg caffeine, and 150mg aspirin. you should be able to get all from a chemist. what do you call a chemist over there? drug store? pharmacy? Deus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 > ephedrine is often refered to as ma huang, caffeine as guarana and > aspirin as some bark I forget its name. but you will find it > cheaper to buy the pieces separately. 20mg ephedrine, 200mg > caffeine, and 150mg aspirin. you should be able to get all from a > chemist. what do you call a chemist over there? drug store? > pharmacy? Pharmicist. Thanks for the info, Deus! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 It's white willow bark. It is basically a natural source of aspirin. I disagree that it is easier to buy them individually. It may be cheaper, but it is definitely not more convenient to take four or five pills vs. only one or two. I would suggest going with a pre made combination like " Thermo Pro " (www.prolab.com) or " Beta Lean " (www.eas.com) or " Hydroxycut " (www.muscletech.com/) . Formulas like those are engineered to provide better results than just E.C.A FRED > > ephedrine is often refered to as ma huang, caffeine as guarana and aspirin > as some bark I forget its name. but you will find it cheaper to buy > the pieces separately. 20mg ephedrine, 200mg caffeine, and 150mg aspirin. > you should be able to get all from a chemist. what do you call a chemist > over there? drug store? pharmacy? > > Deus > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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