Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I'm curious to know too! Because I have a dog, a mini schnauzer (well, he's at my ex's home), who get bad rashes and irritated skin on his paws. He only get that often when he goes outside on the grass and sidewalk. I wonder if it is allergies from in the house, or the grass or on the sidewalks (they get salted in winter time, but he still gets reaction in the summer time). Would a scoby cream (what's the recipe btw??) and KT bath would help him heal his paws? Philip On 9/22/09, lsfolly <lsfolly@...> wrote: > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just > more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - > pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, > but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this > rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have > extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin > allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the > second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT > baths? > > -- Sent from my mobile device " When I lived as a hearing person, it limited me. When I lived as a Deaf person, it set me free. " ~ philip b. mecham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Recipe for Scoby Cream :-) Take one Scoby Place in Blender Add just enough KT to make a mush Whir away Place in Jar. zoe Philip Mecham wrote: > I'm curious to know too! Because I have a dog, a mini schnauzer (well, > he's at my ex's home), who get bad rashes and irritated skin on his > paws. He only get that often when he goes outside on the grass and > sidewalk. I wonder if it is allergies from in the house, or the grass > or on the sidewalks (they get salted in winter time, but he still gets > reaction in the summer time). Would a scoby cream (what's the recipe > btw??) and KT bath would help him heal his paws? > > Philip > > > On 9/22/09, lsfolly <lsfolly@...> wrote: > >> I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just >> more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - >> pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, >> but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this >> rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have >> extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. >> >> Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. >> >> So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin >> allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the >> second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT >> baths? >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 The skin allergies may be triggered by diet. Just as carbs eaten by humans trigger candida outbreaks, so do grains in a canine diet. Just hoping you look to the source, or even with all the good Kombucha can do it will be a never ending battle. Also, try adding some virgin coconut oil to their diets. Very anti- candida. Must be virgin coconut oil, tho' Gayle On Sep 22, 2009, at 4:55 PM, lsfolly wrote: > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - > just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her > in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It > seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is > still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of > daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try > making the cream. > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog > skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my > time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am > getting with the KT baths? > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Recipe is in the Files section to your left, about 3/4 way down, by . She has found that it spoils in the fridge so she keeps it at room temp, freshens it with fresh KT and covers it with muslin or wax paper. I imagine that the coffee filters/rubber bands I am using would work just as well as muslin. My dog has the allergies so bad that she is listless and depressed. She also was hanging out by the front door as if asking me to take her to the vet. After 1 KT bath she perked up and after 2 days baths she was more of her old self again - more happy and active and much less itching - but although she has had some healing on the back most of her skin is still full of sores - echhh - its just horrible. I feed them raw meaty bones every day - usually pork neck bones or beef back ribs. I started making doggee congee for them with the meaty bones and rice. She really gobbled it the first couple of days but just like everything else, now she is weary of it. She has strategy too. She refused her doggee congee today and let her husband fill up on it. That's because now she gets both bones because he is too full to have his bone! (They don't care for veggies too much anymore - they are 12 and 17.) They are outside alot in the grass but we use no pesticides or fertilizers on it - just water. They do like to eat the grass. It is sunny and in the high 90's low 100's here. Just two weeks ago it was just too hot for them to be out much so I don't think grass exposure has much to do with it although it could be an organism in the dirt. Although I am hoping that the sun will help clear up this mess she has - maybe between the KT and the sun that is why her back is now clear? If I have to do this in winter I am not looking forward to it. Yesterday the bees were interested in what I was doing so I had to bath her in the bathroom. Of course she shook herself and I had to wipe everything down ceiling to floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 try taking her off ALL grains immediatly. check your labels, sometimes there are grains in food that appears to be grain free. my papillon chews on his feet whenever he gets any grain at all-rice,barley,quinoa,oats, everything. also consider a raw diet for her, it is not as hard as it seems. gail > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hi, As wonderful as KT is and as effective as it can be it is not necessarily the only thing one should use for healing. If you can possibly do so it might be a good idea to take your dog to the Vet and get a diagnosis of what is going on. It may or may not be allergies. They can shave the fur off and see what is going on underneath. For example one of our dogs recently developed a skin rash with a lot of fluid being secreted and started to act sick. We took him to the Vet and it turns out he has a staph intermedius infection for which antibiotics were prescribed, within a few days he was back to feeling better again and we are continuing the antibiotics for a full course of treatment as staph is not a good thing to have around. While I might wash the skin with KT and at present I am using Traumeel for that purpose I don't think anything would have taken care of the bacterial infection that was there and if untreated it can go deeper and can also spread to humans so it really needs to be taken care of as soon as possible. You can look it up online as it is fairly common in dogs. I am the last one to run to doctors and vets etc. but sometimes they are the right place at the right time. Hope this is helpful to you. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 EEEKI I thought rice was OK - cuz it's in the allergy free dog foods. She hated the Cod Liver Oil and Flax seed that I tried. I can try Virgin Coconut Oil - I have some. Only got hubby to quit with the Milk Bones (wheat) a week ago so have noticed no reaction other than she misses them. It's hard to believe they are bad for her when she loves them so much. Actually it's hard to figure out why they love them almost as much as a raw meaty bone! Wondering how long it takes to see a change in symptoms from diet changes? I have purchased lots of brands of dog food that are supposed to be non-allergenic and help with this and not a one of them gave her any relief at all - and they are expensive! That is why I finally decided on meat bones and rice in the crock pot - even the allergenic expensive dog food has stuff I am unsure of so thought I'd keep it simple. You are right though, the Kombucha does not seem to be enough. > > The skin allergies may be triggered by diet. > Just as carbs eaten by humans trigger candida outbreaks, so do grains > in a canine diet. > > Just hoping you look to the source, or even with all the good Kombucha > can do it will be a never ending battle. > > Also, try adding some virgin coconut oil to their diets. Very anti- > candida. Must be virgin coconut oil, tho' > > Gayle > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Yes, converting to a raw diet seems real hard to me. Got any links that make it easy? I am disabled so difficult to get much done consistently but if I knew how to do it without having to read a whole book . . . . When they were younger they really loved vegetables but now - no. They helped us eat everything - even fruits like tomatoes, grapes and bananas! Now they could care less - they even skip nuts which they once loved. > > try taking her off ALL grains immediatly. check your labels, sometimes there are grains in food that appears to be grain free. my papillon chews on his feet whenever he gets any grain at all-rice,barley,quinoa,oats, everything. also consider a raw diet for her, it is not as hard as it seems. > gail > > > > > > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 At this point I agree with you. I am thinking that the vets call it " allergies " when in reality it is something else like a microbe in the soil or something. I agree that I need to take her to the vet but at this time we have been experiencing severe financial difficulties so I don't think it is going to happen. She even acts like she wants to go to the vet - like she is telling me to take her but I just can't afford it right now. The good vets cost a fortune and send me away with absolutely nothing for my $50 visitation fee if I can't afford $500 for tests - I can't. The less expensive vet still costs a fortune and spend so little time with the animal that I am not even sure if the diagnosis is correct. I have looked up " pyoderma " as you suggested - thanks for the staph terminology - I have tried to research this before and obviously didn't have correct words. The info says that there are many possible underlying causes and if not determined accurately the problem will be recurring which is what we have for several years now. She is such a physically beautiful as well as personality - the best dog I have ever had. I am angry that the feed stores have suffered legislation preventing them from offering the options they once did. I really cannot afford a vet now and that is exactly what she needs. I am reduced to looking about to see if we have old un-used human antibiotics laying around that might help her. (Hmmmm . . . I had infected appendicitis recently and was allergic to everything they prescribed - hope I didn't toss the stuff! Cephelexen I believe was one - just maybe with a pill-cutter I can do this! OK, this has kind of gotten off-topic from kombucha although I now have the idea that KT does not have enough antibiotic activity for this condition. Thank you for all the wonderful responses! I will take any more ideas with gratitude as well. Especially if you know of some organization that helps animals cheaply or freely - disability does not pay enough to even take care of oneself properly - never mind ones pets. (Had the critters before I got disabled.) > > > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Have you had your dog's thyroid tested by Dr. Dodds at Hemopet? I have one dog who is low thyroid, and it was her skin issues that drove me to test her thyroid. I download the forms for shipping the blood to Dr. Dodds at http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/HEMOPET.HTM, then I have our vet pull the blood and ship it. It is expensive, but she is much cheaper than the university labs and her results are much better and more thorough than the local vets can do in their clinics. She is also the leading authority on things like skin issues and other issues in dogs, and she will talk to you about the results she gets from your dog's blood and about your dog's issues after the tests are done. A raw diet is pretty simple, and there are many lists to help you. I own one list on called ADTnutrition. It is basically Airedale Terrier people, but we do have many people who have other breeds and mixed breeds. We would be glad to have you join: just follow the directions to join and put a note in that you are responding to my post on kombucha tea (By the way, my dogs love bits of old SCOBYs. I used to keep a jar of SCOBY pieces in some KT and give them pieces as though they were cookies.) I also have a page on our website, www.dearjubilee.com , about feeding raw. And here is a simple three-page diet guide by Dr. Tom Lonsdale, a vet, at http://www.rawmeatybones.com/diet/exp-diet-guide.pdf I used to feed veggies, but now I basically feed each of my 45 pound dogs some ground meat (for variety I use different meats, including ground turkey, ground beef, ground pork, ground emu, and ground rabbit) and raw meaty bones: I feed chicken parts with bone in and rabbit parts with bone in for the raw meaty bones. I also feed supplements: a daily vitamin mix, separate vitamin c, a probiotic, and a green mix (I get all these at www.b-naturals.com ). Feeding this diet is very simple, and unless there is a thyroid problem, my dogs never have skin problems and are very healthy. Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Hi, We are giving our Lab 1,500 mg of Cephalexin.sp....per day two 500 mg. in the morning and one at night. The Vet gave us a 21 day supply because they need to be on it long enough to kill the staph not just leave the strong ones to continue. The dogs get kefir every morning to keep their intestinal bacteria going. That amount of Cephaliexin cost us $63. You really need a diagnosis at least to know whether or not that is what you are dealing with. Our vet charges $65 for a visit without any meds etc. but that would tell you what you are dealing with and then you have a better chance of knowing how to treat it. If it is the staph pyoderma it causes pustules to form that secrete _a lot of clear fluid_ and small amounts of blood. There was a lot of liquid coming from my dogs fur and it showed up on his bed and blankets. There are many other skin conditions in dogs so it might be worth it to get a diagnosis first. You shouldn't give your dog antibiotics unless they are really necessary. Could be a fungal infection like ring worm and then antibiotics won't help. Don't give less than a full dose it could make things much worse. I understand about the money believe me, but if it is staph it is serious and can be fatal as well as spread to humans. I had a staph aureus infection myself many years ago and even though I was able to walk around I felt very sick a lot of the time....perhaps your vet would just diagnose it for you and then you can seek the antibiotics cheaper on line? If not, definitely try the CS and grapefruit seed extract and Kombucha they won't hurt. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev physically beautiful as well as personality - the best dog I have ever had. > > I am angry that the feed stores have suffered legislation preventing them from offering the options they once did. I really cannot afford a vet now and that is exactly what she needs. I am reduced to looking about to see if we have old un-used human antibiotics laying around that might help her. (Hmmmm . . . I had infected appendicitis recently and was allergic to everything they prescribed - hope I didn't toss the stuff! Cephelexen I believe was one - just maybe with a pill-cutter I can do this! > > OK, this has kind of gotten off-topic from kombucha although I now have the idea that KT does not have enough antibiotic activity for this condition. > > Thank you for all the wonderful responses! I will take any more ideas with gratitude as well. Especially if you know of some organization that helps animals cheaply or freely - disability does not pay enough to even take care of oneself properly - never mind ones pets. (Had the critters before I got disabled.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > > > > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > > > > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Hi, We are giving our Lab 1,500 mg of Cephalexin.sp....per day two 500 mg. in the morning and one at night. The Vet gave us a 21 day supply because they need to be on it long enough to kill the staph not just leave the strong ones to continue. The dogs get kefir every morning to keep their intestinal bacteria going. That amount of Cephaliexin cost us $63. You really need a diagnosis at least to know whether or not that is what you are dealing with. Our vet charges $65 for a visit without any meds etc. but that would tell you what you are dealing with and then you have a better chance of knowing how to treat it. If it is the staph pyoderma it causes pustules to form that secrete _a lot of clear fluid_ and small amounts of blood. There was a lot of liquid coming from my dogs fur and it showed up on his bed and blankets. There are many other skin conditions in dogs so it might be worth it to get a diagnosis first. You shouldn't give your dog antibiotics unless they are really necessary. Could be a fungal infection like ring worm and then antibiotics won't help. Don't give less than a full dose it could make things much worse. I understand about the money believe me, but if it is staph it is serious and can be fatal as well as spread to humans. I had a staph aureus infection myself many years ago and even though I was able to walk around I felt very sick a lot of the time....perhaps your vet would just diagnose it for you and then you can seek the antibiotics cheaper on line? If not, definitely try the CS and grapefruit seed extract and Kombucha they won't hurt. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev physically beautiful as well as personality - the best dog I have ever had. > > I am angry that the feed stores have suffered legislation preventing them from offering the options they once did. I really cannot afford a vet now and that is exactly what she needs. I am reduced to looking about to see if we have old un-used human antibiotics laying around that might help her. (Hmmmm . . . I had infected appendicitis recently and was allergic to everything they prescribed - hope I didn't toss the stuff! Cephelexen I believe was one - just maybe with a pill-cutter I can do this! > > OK, this has kind of gotten off-topic from kombucha although I now have the idea that KT does not have enough antibiotic activity for this condition. > > Thank you for all the wonderful responses! I will take any more ideas with gratitude as well. Especially if you know of some organization that helps animals cheaply or freely - disability does not pay enough to even take care of oneself properly - never mind ones pets. (Had the critters before I got disabled.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > > > > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > > > > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I have read that borax (as in 20 Mule Team Borax) dissolved in water, then sprayed onto the skin can do wonders to bring quick relief for hot spots, skin problems. Never tried it but may be worth a try to give puppy some relief. It is certainly economical. Diane -- In kombucha tea , " lsfolly " <lsfolly@...> wrote: > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I have read that borax (as in 20 Mule Team Borax) dissolved in water, then sprayed onto the skin can do wonders to bring quick relief for hot spots, skin problems. Never tried it but may be worth a try to give puppy some relief. It is certainly economical. Diane -- In kombucha tea , " lsfolly " <lsfolly@...> wrote: > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Oh thank you for explaining better! She does not have liquid coming from her fur as you describe - although some of the sores do have a little yellow crust from lymph fluid (?) The vets have always called it allergies. I am wondering if it is something in the soil in this neighborhood because she never had it until we moved here - 2 houses within a couple miles of each other. Then again could be breed, age, or as others here have suggested - underlying age related medical condition like thyroid. However, it does make her stink and she does get hot and obviously under the weather. When I started the kombucha she showed improvement immediately and her back is mostly clear or just stains from where the sores were. She has been laying in the sun so I think the sun helped. Today I did the GSE and the Pure Liquid Gold instructions do say for bacterial infections including staph, ringworm - and even mange! Unfortunately the GSE does not address the stink issue but she is feeling better every day. It is a whole lot of work - much easier to give her a pill - but just don't have that kind of money right now. I figure that when she licks herself after the GSE application she is getting an internal dose - hee hee! But she is on the mend - much less licking, chewing and scratching. Turned out my antibiotics were something different and if the GSE does not show sufficient progress I will have to research and cut them for her body weight if they are of a spectrum that will address this as well as determine if cut there will be enough for the time that you mention. Problem is that if I go the pill route I will have to spend about $200 per month at the vets and just keep giving her the pills because as soon as I stop them she gets this back. GSE is labor intensive but still cheaper and more holistic. Personally I have a lot of medical problems from taking Rx so I don't want to do that to her except as a last resort and really when I say financially challenged - I mean really - that scary downward spiral where you sell your car to Payday Loans just to keep the electric on for two weeks and a computer is at the pawn shop - like that - I really don't care to be so blatant and open about it but going to the vet is simply not an option. I am not too happy with the vets anyway. I had some softshell turtles someone dumped on me and I really fell in love with them but despite much time researching on-line and at local fish stores - nobody could teach me the science I needed to keep them alive. When I was selling their tank after the last one died I met someone locally on-line who told me that our local water supply has things like Giardia in it that probably did them in. But none of my years of research on the best forums or at the best fish stores could bother to teach me any of that. We went to the vets several times for those turtles and these were vets that were recommended as having skill in that area and none of them did of course - they just took the money and showed that they had even less knowledge than what I had gathered myself on-line. I've been to three different vets several times for this condition my girl dog has and they always call it " allergies " and never anything more. Never even gave me the idea that another condition like thyroid could make her susceptible to this. Never said to stay away from certain ingredients in food or gave me any hint as to what she might be allergic to. Um, do you make your own kefir? Out of milk or something else? Have you ever given your dogs KT? My girl was doing an extraordinary amount of licking when I put it on her skin so it is clear that she does like it. > > > > > > > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > > > > > > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > > > > > > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Love that stuff! Hard to find anymore - mixed with Arm & Hammer Super Washing Soda it's great for whites. Good idea for the bath! I even bought special itch shampoo, cream and spray from Dr and it provides absolutely no relief at all whatsoever. While walking the dogs I met a neighbor whose brother is a veterinarian and he had no ideas for her dogs' allergies either - she uses Selsun Blue shampoo on her dog! Maybe I could mix the shampoo with the Borax. Wonder if the Borax will get rid of the smell the way kombucha does. Wow this forum has been so great for responses! I am torn because I want to answer and thank everybody personally but now I feel guilty for having hogged the forum! > > > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Be careful with the Borax, as it can also be a skin sensitizer for some humans. A lot of older moisturizer recipes use Borax and beeswax as emulsifiers and some folk are rather sensitive to it. I can use Borax to neutralize liquid soap paste no problem, but my skin can't handle the Borax in moisturizers. I do not know anything about its effect on dogs. > > I have read that borax (as in 20 Mule Team Borax) dissolved in water, then sprayed onto the skin can do wonders to bring quick relief for hot spots, skin problems. Never tried it but may be worth a try to give puppy some relief. It is certainly economical. > > Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Hi, So wonderful to hear your dog is feeling better, that is what counts!!! Yes, in addition to the antibiotics we are using for this infection, we are also giving our dog brewers yeast, garlic, adrenal cortex glandular, Vit B (trying to get rid of the fleas naturally), Vit C, Cod Liver Oil and both Kombucha in their food and kefir, which I make with milk from kefir grains. In addition, at first I put an external Bur-cort solution that the vet recommended for the first week and now Traumeel Gel, one of my favorite things for healing, during the second week. Our dog is also getting better and yesterday we all went to the ocean and the fun, sun and salt probably helped as well at this stage. I know it helped me:-)) I'm also thinking of giving both of my dogs who are each 10+ years old a Thyroplex capsule each day.....works for me, might give them a boost too. Will also look into the thyroid testing with Ms. Dodd. Joined the silver list to learn more as well. To Better and Better Health! Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev > > > > > > > > > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > > > > > > > > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > > > > > > > > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Hi, One of our dogs, loves to roll and gets stinky at times from that and a kind of oily buildup around her neck, we have used Selsun Blue on her neck and then rinsing it off with plain water......definitely helps with the stink and seems to help the oily buildup too. Same Vet advised us to use that for her. It is her brother who has the staph infection but they both seem to be doing fine now. Kombucha is great for skin stuff too and can be fed to the dogs on their food each day as well. The blended Kombucha Cream is stronger than the tea so spot check to make sure it doesn't burn sensitive skin. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev > > > > > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > > > > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > > > > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Hi EveryOne, Borax is boron and very drying....rather than put it directly on the skin which doesn't seem like such a good idea as it would probably irritate, it can be spread around baseboards and on rugs and then vacuumed up 24 hours later to help control fleas. I have read that it is toxic to animals so be cautious about applying it directly. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev -- In kombucha tea , " goodbead40@... " <goodbead40@...> wrote: > > Be careful with the Borax, as it can also be a skin sensitizer for some humans. A lot of older moisturizer recipes use Borax and beeswax as emulsifiers and some folk are rather sensitive to it. I can use Borax to neutralize liquid soap paste no problem, but my skin can't handle the Borax in moisturizers. I do not know anything about its effect on dogs. > > > > > > > I have read that borax (as in 20 Mule Team Borax) dissolved in water, then sprayed onto the skin can do wonders to bring quick relief for hot spots, skin problems. Never tried it but may be worth a try to give puppy some relief. It is certainly economical. > > > > Diane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 When we lived in florida we used a clean broom to " grind " borax into carpets and upholstery & never vacuumed it up. It did not bother the teenager, the two adults, the two dogs, or the two cats. One cat and one dog had serious skin allergy issues and the borax totally saved us. In retrospect I am thankful it didn't hurt anyone! Wish I had known about KT then. I'm going to introduce it to one of our current cats to see if it will help with his extreme obesity. I suspect that he is diabetic or has serious thyroid issues but cannot afford evaluation or treatment. I'm hoping for a KT miracle! Thanks to all of you for this " pet " thread - and for the other alternative healing talk! Cathe in Mi Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed Re: Dog Skin Allergy ? Hi EveryOne, Borax is boron and very drying....rather than put it directly on the skin which doesn't seem like such a good idea as it would probably irritate, it can be spread around baseboards and on rugs and then vacuumed up 24 hours later to help control fleas. I have read that it is toxic to animals so be cautious about applying it directly. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev -- In kombucha tea , " goodbead40@... " <goodbead40@...> wrote: > > Be careful with the Borax, as it can also be a skin sensitizer for some humans. A lot of older moisturizer recipes use Borax and beeswax as emulsifiers and some folk are rather sensitive to it. I can use Borax to neutralize liquid soap paste no problem, but my skin can't handle the Borax in moisturizers. I do not know anything about its effect on dogs. > > > > > > > I have read that borax (as in 20 Mule Team Borax) dissolved in water, then sprayed onto the skin can do wonders to bring quick relief for hot spots, skin problems. Never tried it but may be worth a try to give puppy some relief. It is certainly economical. > > > > Diane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 After reading about giving dog's kefir, I gave my dog about 2 tablespoons of kefir made with milk and he puked up everything in his stomach about an hour later....oops! Guess his tummy didn't tolerate it. All of this info is interesting though. My dog also suffers with bad skin due to " allergies. " Â ~ in TX From: yoganandaom <OM@...> Subject: Re: Dog Skin Allergy ? kombucha tea Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 12:52 PM Â Hi, So wonderful to hear your dog is feeling better, that is what counts!!! Yes, in addition to the antibiotics we are using for this infection, we are also giving our dog brewers yeast, garlic, adrenal cortex glandular, Vit B (trying to get rid of the fleas naturally), Vit C, Cod Liver Oil and both Kombucha in their food and kefir, which I make with milk from kefir grains. In addition, at first I put an external Bur-cort solution that the vet recommended for the first week and now Traumeel Gel, one of my favorite things for healing, during the second week. Our dog is also getting better and yesterday we all went to the ocean and the fun, sun and salt probably helped as well at this stage. I know it helped me:-)) I'm also thinking of giving both of my dogs who are each 10+ years old a Thyroplex capsule each day.....works for me, might give them a boost too. Will also look into the thyroid testing with Ms. Dodd. Joined the silver list to learn more as well. To Better and Better Health! Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev > > > > > > > > > > I have tried everything on my poor old girl. The vets never solve - just more Rx. Now I have been spending hours every day bathing her in Kombucha - pulling her woolly fur apart to get the skin. It seems to be helping a bit, but after 4 days I can see that she is still far from healed and at this rate it might take a few weeks of daily bathing. Next week when I have extra SCOBY'S I will try making the cream. > > > > > > > > > > Tried all kinds of dietary changes for her as well. > > > > > > > > > > So my question is twofold - has anybody ever actually healed dog skin allergies with KT or KT SCOBY cream? (Or am I wasting my time?) And the second part - how to boost the healing action I am getting with the KT baths? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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