Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Bev, is that so? I lived in Japan for years and never heard of that. I'd be really interested to have more information if you know the product name or anything else. thanks! -Todd In fact there is a product sold in Japan made out of Kombucha colonies just for the fiber. > > Peace, Love and Harmony, > Bev > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 LOL. that's just my thinking. Dogs eat all kinds of stuff we humans would not. I am now an affiliate of ErgoBaby. Click on the link below to purchase the Best Baby r Ever! http://www.ergobabycarrier.com/758.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Yes, and Thank You for advice, but i have limited use of my hands and fingers, so the garlic press event / i tried /turned into a fiasco so..maybe you have a better way to mesh them, to extract, and is that r e a l l y how you make your drops?? Sincerely Jahjet > > > > > > As we all know, the SCOBY does contain the bacteria and yeasts of kombucha, else putting a SCOBY in sweet tea wouldn't do anything. > > > > > > The material of the SCOBY is microbial cellulose, which humans cannot digest. So for the average kombucha brewer, the SCOBY would be nothing but a byproduct. Blending and straining the SCOBY would yield more kombucha goodness, leaving behind the indigestible cellulose. (I suspect Bev does more than merely blend and strain). > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Hi Todd, Yes it is so but I do not have the name of the product. Many many years ago a man came to my house who was in the business of making paper huge sheets of paper from Kombucha in the Philippines. He also made little square candies from Kombucha and also powdered Kombucha which he brought to my house and shared with me.. He was here in the US to try to interest the forestry colleges to learn to make paper from Kombucha. He also taught an artist to make her paper from Kombucha. I only met with him once and then after awhile did not hear from him again so don't know what happened with his travels throughout the US. He was trying to find support to keep his business going and his employees working. His name was , I forget his last name. At the time he visited he told me that the Japanese had come to the Philippines to buy some of his kombucha to start the process of making fiber for supplements out of it. I never did know the name of it. Kombucha is a most fascinating substance. During WW2 it was used in hospitals as a treatment for burns, the Kombucha Colony itself was laid right on the burn and acted as antiseptic and bandage all in one. Drum heads and beaded bags and gloves have been produced from dried Kombucha Colonies. I highly recommend Guenther 's book: Kombucha Healthy Beverage and Natural Remedy from the Far East. I learned a lot from that book and IMHO it is one of the very best books about Kombucha. Just some tidbits of information for those curious to know more about Kombucha. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev PS There is also someone who makes sculptures from KT and they are posted somewhere on the internet but I don't know where. > > In fact there is a product sold in Japan made out of Kombucha colonies just for the fiber. > > > > Peace, Love and Harmony, > > Bev > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Hi Jahjet, Either you believe me or you don't that is up to you. I can't tell the truth any more than i have already done. I used to make all of the Kombucha Manna Drops I sold using a garlic press. After some years I bought a special machine to extract the drops from the Kombucha colonies. I do not add Kombucha tea or anything else to the Kombucha Manna Drops I make except 35% organic alcohol. That's it, believe it or not! BTW I learned about how to make Kombucha Drops from Guenther 's book you will find the information in there if you care to check. For those who don't choose to or cannot use the garlic press probably the next best method to use at home would be a blender with enough Kombucha tea added to keep the blender from overheating or getting stuck. That will not produce the same Kombucha drops as Kombucha Manna Drops but it is easier than the garlic press. Hope that helps, it is all I can tell you and I am not holding anything back or deceiving you in any way. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev > > > > > > > > As we all know, the SCOBY does contain the bacteria and yeasts of kombucha, else putting a SCOBY in sweet tea wouldn't do anything. > > > > > > > > The material of the SCOBY is microbial cellulose, which humans cannot digest. So for the average kombucha brewer, the SCOBY would be nothing but a byproduct. Blending and straining the SCOBY would yield more kombucha goodness, leaving behind the indigestible cellulose. (I suspect Bev does more than merely blend and strain). > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Thank You for the wisdom you have shared. and i will search a proper extracter out , since i already tried the blender, and yes.. not the best results, I do have a champion juicer, i wonder , but it also have metal parts, and i have a nut grinder also metal, peace jahjet [Please be kind and trim any unnecessary 'tail' on the bottom of your post!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 hello, Bev!you can you please tell if recommend eating scoby by the slice, in place of other foods, like fish? i am not concerned about teeth, but some might be, i am concerned of proper digestion, and its long term results,/ accumulative / in the colon? There are a few people who believe i have no respect for scoby it is just not so. I just like to know the facts.Long term, if possible. , i tried and did not agree with me, but EverOne is different and we should keep in mind even the people with more delicate stomachs..Sincerely with nothing but the Gift in mind and heart, peace Jahjet > > > > > > > > > > As we all know, the SCOBY does contain the bacteria and yeasts of kombucha, else putting a SCOBY in sweet tea wouldn't do anything. > > > > > > > > > > The material of the SCOBY is microbial cellulose, which humans cannot digest. So for the average kombucha brewer, the SCOBY would be nothing but a byproduct. Blending and straining the SCOBY would yield more kombucha goodness, leaving behind the indigestible cellulose. (I suspect Bev does more than merely blend and strain). > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Hi Jahjet, I do not know whether or not eating slices of Kombucha colony is good for someone or not. I have never eaten them that way although I did try some blended like apple sauce once. Didn't particularly care for the taste. That same blended Kombucha makes a great face cream so I used it for that. BTW if you are going to do that try it on a small spot first and only leave on for less than a minute. Some people have sensitive skin and cannot leave Kombucha cream on their face very long. Everyone is unique and what works for one many not work for another. I do believe that the Kombucha colony has many benefits and one of them may be as fiber for digestion but I don't know what is the best form of Kombucha for that and I leave that to those who have experimented with that to share their experiences. Since chances are the Kombucha colony will not be broken down very much by digestion I would say that the sizes of the pieces should be small enough to pass through the digestive system without causing a blockage. I try to share what I know from reading and primarily from my own experience. Hopefully someone else will know more about eating Kombucha colonies. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev > > > > > > > > > > > > As we all know, the SCOBY does contain the bacteria and yeasts of kombucha, else putting a SCOBY in sweet tea wouldn't do anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > The material of the SCOBY is microbial cellulose, which humans cannot digest. So for the average kombucha brewer, the SCOBY would be nothing but a byproduct. Blending and straining the SCOBY would yield more kombucha goodness, leaving behind the indigestible cellulose. (I suspect Bev does more than merely blend and strain). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Bev, just one more and tiny question, is there such a thing as really used up ,old scoby / spent / and would that still be valuable in drops, or applesauce.strained and or filtered for internal use? Kindly and thankfull for your forward replies.peace Jahjet [unnecessary reposting of previous messages removed - Moderator] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Jahjet, I adore your persistence. I usually come across recipes like this, and let them sit on my brain for a while before trying. I am sorry to hear of your hand problems, this must be frustrating. I have understood that metal is a not good fermenting medium. I'm not sure why though. ? Since you would be blending and removing quickly, wouldn't it be ok to use the metal blender? Love and peace, Micah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Thank you mucho for confirming my suspicions, Bev. I do wonder if you have tried lower concentrations of alcohol to force dormancy for these yeasties. Not that I will. 35% is already a good bit lower than my typical 50% for preserving. This book is now on my wishlist. And wow, i saw your mention of kombucha paper! Quite clever. Makes me wonder about the PROKI (paper return on kombucha invested). Thanks again. Micah > > Hi Jahjet, > > Either you believe me or you don't that is up to you. I can't tell the truth any more than i have already done. I used to make all of the Kombucha Manna Drops I sold using a garlic press. After some years I bought a special machine to extract the drops from the Kombucha colonies. I do not add Kombucha tea or anything else to the Kombucha Manna Drops I make except 35% organic alcohol. That's it, believe it or not! BTW I learned about how to make Kombucha Drops from Guenther 's book you will find the information in there if you care to check. [unnecessary bits of tail snipped by moderator] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Dear, Micah, been blessed with The Gift of Kombucha for nearing three decades gave me plenty of time thinking of how to apply all those Motheres in more than one ways. / before continuous brewing /I did have less guidance, back than..so I had been brewing in my house and i think it might as well been one the first of microbreweries,administering this blessed brew cup by cup to the homeless, and my gift was to see their faces lite up , with instant relief of some of their pain. I still do that, but since i am in lesser use of my hands it is less i can do.I also am firm believer of recycling,we have established the first Recycling Ecology Action Center in Lake Tahoe in early 60's,with my late husband who was Designig ecco friendly solar houses. Him an Enviromental Architect.I was honored to have been at his side, in those years. He was an inspiration to me ,still is.I write this letter to you and maybe to EveryOne , but words are just words actions are stronger, and good intentions...with Faith . Oh, the metals , or plastics for that matter, are not adviced since KT removes the metals among other poisonous elements from everything. I will try my champion juicer, to see, if it can separete pulp, from goodies still remaining in moms. Before we could not think about cutting them like that, but now, i have grown to move forward, i have revered them as blessed Mothers. Always will, Yours Truly with all Sincerity, Jahjet Yes i am driven to find the truth in everything, it will free us , and with freedom comes responsibility for our actions. Peace, and happiness to all Jahjet / english is my second language, forgive my typoes, please../ > > Jahjet, I adore your persistence. I usually come across recipes like this, and let them sit on my brain for a while before trying. I am sorry to hear of your hand problems, this must be frustrating. > > I have understood that metal is a not good fermenting medium. I'm not sure why though. ? Since you would be blending and removing quickly, wouldn't it be ok to use the metal blender? > > Love and peace, > Micah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Hello, Micah what do you know about freezedrying?? or freeze destille?/ Gayle's offering /..I'd like to capsule it like space food...Freezedrying seems like an interesting undertaking.. you the chemist? peace Jahjet > > Jahjet, I adore your persistence. I usually come across recipes like this, and let them sit on my brain for a while before trying. I am sorry to hear of your hand problems, this must be frustrating. > > I have understood that metal is a not good fermenting medium. I'm not sure why though. ? Since you would be blending and removing quickly, wouldn't it be ok to use the metal blender? > > Love and peace, > Micah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Hi!!! Jahjet, Your talk of words and actions and Faith is what I needs to hear. Giving me smilies. Your husband sounds like a good man. It was for the works of folks " back when " that made it possible for me to see things the way I do now, and I remain grateful for that always. I had the opportunity to help a homeless woman with frostbite last year about this time, and I felt it as confirmation that this path of nurturance is a good one. You are certainly a good one and better with the sharing. Gayle, could you please correct me and fill in the blanks on this freezing kombucha? Freezing is one way to still yeast. I think though that this kills it, not just stills it. We could just leave the scobies tethered in the airlock, instant freezedrying in space. I really know little about that, being an amateur of whatever strikes me as being useful at the time. Never had much luck with freezers. Not to worry about typos. It's the meaning of the words that matters, not the way they look. micah > > Hello, Micah what do you know about freezedrying?? or freeze destille?/ Gayle's offering /..I'd like to capsule it like space food...Freezedrying seems like an interesting undertaking.. you the chemist? peace Jahjet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Micah, Thank You, i can see your smilies.. freeze distille is different from freeze dry. it is possible that it leads to same ends. Maybe freeze distille will separete the watar from KT. Freeze dry is complicated,i am looking for simple.I heard at this site someone reviving frozen scobie, but not proven. Although I would like to make powder..i heard Bev mention it also, when that man stayed with her, who sold paper and had little tiny bits of candy made of of scoby.. the powder would be nice.. fascinating..there must be away. without killing bacteri.,peace..jahjet > > Hi!!! Jahjet, > Your talk of words and actions and Faith is what I needs to hear. Giving me smilies. Your husband sounds like a good man. It was for the works of folks " back when " that made it possible for me to see things the way I do now, and I remain grateful for that always. > > I had the opportunity to help a homeless woman with frostbite last year about this time, and I felt it as confirmation that this path of nurturance is a good one. You are certainly a good one and better with the sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Thank You Vicki, for pointing us into the right direction.. so much for Your time and effort in these days , when time is so precious.. Micah, and Nita, onto making good vinegar..mmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Hello, Micah! we got our answers, Happy Holidays Gayle! Thank you for the know how! peace...jahjet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 hi, Nita, yes dogs eat the stangest things, you should see some of it operated out of their bellies..they do not have the same intuition about what they gulp down as we do, well some of us.. ha ha .. but they have as sensetive a stomach as we do, that is what my vet is saying. peace..jahjet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Bev wrote: > Either you believe me or you don't that is up to you. I can't tell > the truth any more than i have already done. I used to make all of > the Kombucha Manna Drops I sold using a garlic press. Thank you Bev. And to those who try to make kt-drops might I suggest you also buy some manna kt-drops? That way you can compare your drops to Bev's and at the same time thank her for risking her secret and her livelihood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hello, Rodman ! Bev is the Enlightened One, what's given is received in seven fold..Peace, jahjet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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