Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 You don't have to play and resort to calling me "stupid", mr mooney. Jesus. I HAVE seen great immune system results and fat loss and increased energy from many many using HGH solo w/o steroids as I stated CLEARLY in 2 Emails. Maybe you need glasses! That's not name calling. You just jumped to conclusions. You need to read it all. Your experience not seeing any results which I have since 1988 does not mean I am mistaken. You are very closed minded. I have been a phlebotomist since 1974 and have probably seen more blood studies than you. I am also a registered LVN and Hospice Care Worker and Grief Counselor. I have been 31 years non progressing HIV poz- documented by my stored blood in a '78 San Francisco blood study. I know quite a bit about studies. I am still in 7 worldwide as a long term non progressor. In 35 years in the health industry, I am very careful to look at both sides of everything. I am not saying HGH works for all. Or most. BUT- it HAS done amazing things for many many people sans combo of testosterone or other steroid supplements. That's the bottom line. If we differ in our personal opinions, so be it. No need to jump on my ass and call me stupid. Grow up! -Matt s. An educated Survivor of HIV. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "medibolics_michael" Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:21:35 -0000< >Subject: GH To be clear, I haven't met a single person who has experienced these amazing effects from GH who was not on testosterone and/or other anabolic steroids. To say that GH caused increased strength, muscle, balanced hormones, and a stronger immune system while testosterone probably did ALL THE WORK is going to confuse a lot of people who might then want to spend the silly, exhorbitant money GH costs insurance, raping the insurance system -- is simply playing into the hands of the liars who sell and market GH falsely as creating the effects that testosterone causes. It's the steroids, stupid! Mooney www.michaelmooney.net www.medibolics.com > Wow! I have 18 pals on HGH ( & have met over 20 guys on it) and it has improved many areas of their lives: their overall stamina & strength, bone density, eyesight, muscles, all imbalanced hormone levels, skin tone and immune system. All of them. I don't know anyone who's had NO great effects or had ANY ILL effects. That's just seeing it from my world of just 18 friends & 20 some-odd strangers. I hear of more high end Endocrinologists from UTSW, Baylor, Kaiser, UCLA Med Center, NYU Hospital, Cedar Sinai, the NIH ...all prescribing HGH more & more every month now! I have friends who have been on it since 1988 from their trips to Romania. 20 yrs and they are non AIDS progressors (who are HIV+) and all are muscular, very healthy strong men and women. Am I missing something? -Matt in DallasSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: " medibolics_michael " > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:32:33 -0000 > < > > Subject: Re: HGH Question > What purpose? > http://medibolics. com/ has a section on growth hormone on the left. It's a crappy drug if you need to gain muscle weight. Read the articles. > > I'm surprised that a doctor would suggest it. Do they know about anabolic hormones? Because doctors who are enlightened about anabolic hormones have long ago abandoned growth hormone for muscle growth. > > When I hear a doctor suggest growth hormone, I'm skeptical about them and what they espouse. > > Mooney > www.michaelmooney. net > www.medibolics. com > > > > > > > Hey guys......my doctor is wanting to start me on a human growth hormone by the name of Somatropin. I was wondering if anyone in the group has any experience with this drug. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Where did I call you stupid? Oh – you misunderstood that old “It’s the virus, stupid” mime for me saying you were stupid. I’m sorry if it came across that way, but it’s an old saying in HIV, first said by Dr. Ho, not aimed at any one person. I don’t abuse or don’t mean to. I was just stating the facts. The world is pretty wonderful. It’s just that most people are ignorant and this allows them to be abused by smart marketers. We are all ignorant of some things, me included. But I do know, if someone doesn’t correct the fallacies that marketers from mega-monster pharmaceutical companies like Serono thrust on the public, a lot of people suffer MORE, waste money and insurance resources and don’t get the results that can make them healthier. I will suffer misunderstanding to tell the world the truth. And I am sorry that my attempt at humor seemed like it was personal. Mooney www.michaelmooney.net www.medibolics.com www.twitter.com/michaelkmooney www.facebook.com/michaelkevinmooney www.myspace.com/michaelkmooney http://wehonews.com/z/wehonews/archive/page.php?articleID=3724 - for other articles by me search for " Mooney " " Do the thing you fear and the death of fear is certain. " Ralph Waldo Emerson From: upshot4u@... [mailto:upshot4u@...] Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:47 AM medibolics_michael; Poz Health Group Subject: GH You don't have to play and resort to calling me " stupid " , mr mooney. Jesus. I HAVE seen great immune system results and fat loss and increased energy from many many using HGH solo w/o steroids as I stated CLEARLY in 2 Emails. Maybe you need glasses! That's not name calling. You just jumped to conclusions. You need to read it all. Your experience not seeing any results which I have since 1988 does not mean I am mistaken. You are very closed minded. I have been a phlebotomist since 1974 and have probably seen more blood studies than you. I am also a registered LVN and Hospice Care Worker and Grief Counselor. I have been 31 years non progressing HIV poz- documented by my stored blood in a '78 San Francisco blood study. I know quite a bit about studies. I am still in 7 worldwide as a long term non progressor. In 35 years in the health industry, I am very careful to look at both sides of everything. I am not saying HGH works for all. Or most. BUT- it HAS done amazing things for many many people sans combo of testosterone or other steroid supplements. That's the bottom line. If we differ in our personal opinions, so be it. No need to jump on my ass and call me stupid. Grow up! -Matt s. An educated Survivor of HIV. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: " medibolics_michael " Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:21:35 -0000 < > Subject: GH To be clear, I haven't met a single person who has experienced these amazing effects from GH who was not on testosterone and/or other anabolic steroids. To say that GH caused increased strength, muscle, balanced hormones, and a stronger immune system while testosterone probably did ALL THE WORK is going to confuse a lot of people who might then want to spend the silly, exhorbitant money GH costs insurance, raping the insurance system -- is simply playing into the hands of the liars who sell and market GH falsely as creating the effects that testosterone causes. It's the steroids, stupid! Mooney www.michaelmooney.net www.medibolics.com > Wow! I have 18 pals on HGH ( & have met over 20 guys on it) and it has improved many areas of their lives: their overall stamina & strength, bone density, eyesight, muscles, all imbalanced hormone levels, skin tone and immune system. All of them. I don't know anyone who's had NO great effects or had ANY ILL effects. That's just seeing it from my world of just 18 friends & 20 some-odd strangers. I hear of more high end Endocrinologists from UTSW, Baylor, Kaiser, UCLA Med Center, NYU Hospital, Cedar Sinai, the NIH ...all prescribing HGH more & more every month now! I have friends who have been on it since 1988 from their trips to Romania. 20 yrs and they are non AIDS progressors (who are HIV+) and all are muscular, very healthy strong men and women. Am I missing something? -Matt in DallasSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: " medibolics_michael " > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:32:33 -0000 > < > > Subject: Re: HGH Question > What purpose? > http://medibolics. com/ has a section on growth hormone on the left. It's a crappy drug if you need to gain muscle weight. Read the articles. > > I'm surprised that a doctor would suggest it. Do they know about anabolic hormones? Because doctors who are enlightened about anabolic hormones have long ago abandoned growth hormone for muscle growth. > > When I hear a doctor suggest growth hormone, I'm skeptical about them and what they espouse. > > Mooney > www.michaelmooney. net > www.medibolics. com > > > > > > > Hey guys......my doctor is wanting to start me on a human growth hormone by the name of Somatropin. I was wondering if anyone in the group has any experience with this drug. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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