Re: /Is anyone familiar with JUN a kombucha like , but different

[Guest guest]

I came across this page sometime last year; this is the only information I've

*ever* seen on jun:

http://kombuchatea.tribe.net/thread/ff671aa0-a4e3-4781-8b57-0ee1993dd4d5

I don't know whether or not to believe it's any different than kombucha.

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> Hello, I found out about this from a friend, and it is taking me a while to

investigate, The lady who is brewing it loves it, and says it is similar but

different, lives on honey and green tea. She traded kefir crystals for it It is

Japanese. Takes longer to brew /30-40 days/ It is said to be delicious. Warmly,

Jahjet

>

[Guest guest]

this was the list off that video, it looks like herbal kombucha to me. i may try

this blend. i know that green tea makes a light, bubbly kt.

gail

Ingredients:

Jasmine green tea

holy basil

yerba santa

fennel powder (very little)

skull cap

kava kava

4 the health & tang use Schizandra brrys grnd up for a good tang and healthy

Xun. sweaten tea with Half agave & half honey. Bottle Xun after brewing and add

small amnt of concentrated siberian ginseng powder tea with 1/4 tspn

honey & #65279; to carbonate. It will take you on a highly energetic journey

either dancing or meditative. good luck

The lady who is brewing it loves it, and says it is similar but different,

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all who gave me more info, Vicki, Gail and The yarn has gotten

longer, but it seems worth investigatig . Jahjet

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> > Hello, I found out about this from a friend, and it is taking me a while to

investigate, The lady who is brewing it loves it, and says it is similar but

different, lives on honey and green tea. She traded kefir crystals for it It is

Japanese. Takes longer to brew /30-40 days/ It is said to be delicious. Warmly,

Jahjet

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to Vicki, Gail and ..for input on this! I am to follow the yarn,

and may be finding it to brew. Warmly, Jahjet

> >

> > Hello, I found out about this from a friend, and it is taking me a while to

investigate, The lady who is brewing it loves it, and says it is similar but

different, lives on honey and green tea. She traded kefir crystals for it It is

Japanese. Takes longer to brew /30-40 days/ It is said to be delicious. Warmly,

Jahjet

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I was interested in 'JUN' until I came across one of the original sellers Dragon

Brew of 1980's era) quote/unquote:'A little history on Dragon Brew.

Dragon Brew was one of the original tonic drinks introduced in the US in the

early 1980's. This product was actually discontinued by the Manufacturer in 2001

since it was too dificult to make it with the ingredent known as jin culture,

which is another name for kombucha. What is interesting is that since the early

1980's Dragon Brew contained this jin culture, which became a cultural phenomena

in the middle 1990's. We still have many books available on Kombucha and also

have a number of kombucha products available. Dragon Brew was a wonderful

herbal tonic that was much more than just kombucha.'

Website : http://www.momentum98.com/dragon.html

I do find that 2nd continuos brewing under anaerobic condition produces really

delicious (imo) KT which is really different from straight from brewing jar. I

add honey and whatever is available/takes my fancy and leave it to ferment

longer in a cold room as if I'm brewing my beer/wine (I make these as well). The

taste is totally different and I can see 'Jun' being marketed as a superior

product - as the brewing gadgets has to be sterilised and works out expensive

especially the barrels which can handle high pressures! Of course everything is

expensive in Britain - but since tasting this and the commercial Kombucha from

Whole Food London, I prefer 2nd CB under anaerobic system.

I hope that this will help towards solving some of the mysterious 'JUN' or

rather hyped superior/better than Kombucha drink! I was caught out as well as I

pestered many of my oriental friends and strangers to the extent of getting

Charity workers who were going out to the Far East for their work to get JUN for

me! So far none and the locals never heard of 'JUN'.

If anybody out there has some 'JUN' to share a small piece with me (will be paid

well by me) to prove me wrong - please pm me offline as I have all sorts of

brewery equipment/tools to make it work. I love experimenting and I also can

study in depth the micro organism as I have tools/gadgets to do that.

>

> Hello, I found out about this from a friend, and it is taking me a while to

investigate, The lady who is brewing it loves it, and says it is similar but

different, lives on honey and green tea. She traded kefir crystals for it It is

Japanese. Takes longer to brew /30-40 days/ It is said to be delicious. Warmly,

Jahjet

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jahjet,

If you do find a jun culture and make some, let us know what you think! I'm sure

I'm not the only one who's curious.

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> > > Hello, I found out about this from a friend, and it is taking me a while

to investigate, The lady who is brewing it loves it, and says it is similar but

different, lives on honey and green tea. She traded kefir crystals for it It is

Japanese. Takes longer to brew /30-40 days/ It is said to be delicious. Warmly,

Jahjet

[Guest guest]

Well, Thank you for your persistance in ferreting this out. i will be done

with trying to figure this out, and brew more tasty, bubbly, healthy 'bucha!

gail

[Guest guest]

Well, Thank you for your persistance in ferreting this out. i will be done

with trying to figure this out, and brew more tasty, bubbly, healthy 'bucha!

gail

[Guest guest]

Yes , a toast of bubbly " bucha " and many thanks to all sharing in! Warmly ,

Jahjet I wonder if we could have a Bucha time around the globe like 4.20

>

> Well, Thank you for your persistance in ferreting this out. i will be done

> with trying to figure this out, and brew more tasty, bubbly, healthy 'bucha!

> gail

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank You for sharing your experience about Jun. I am not sure when this will

happen but I hope to get some, and I will write about any progress Re: " Jun " It

sounds fantastic that you have all that fabulous equipment already! Peace..

Jahjet

> >

> > Hello, I found out about this from a friend, and it is taking me a while to

investigate, The lady who is brewing it loves it, and says it is similar but

different, lives on honey and green tea. She traded kefir crystals for it It is

Japanese. Takes longer to brew /30-40 days/ It is said to be delicious. Warmly,

Jahjet

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Cool, thanks so much for this post! It does seem as tho' it's

hyped-up kombucha, but you never know. If you ever find out

differently, keep us updated, k?

Thx,

Vicki in Orlando

>

> I was interested in 'JUN' until I came across one of the original sellers

Dragon Brew of 1980's era) quote/unquote:'A little history on Dragon Brew.

>

> Dragon Brew was one of the original tonic drinks introduced in the US in the

early 1980's. This product was actually discontinued by the Manufacturer in 2001

since it was too dificult to make it with the ingredent known as jin culture,

which is another name for kombucha. What is interesting is that since the early

1980's Dragon Brew contained this jin culture, which became a cultural phenomena

in the middle 1990's. We still have many books available on Kombucha and also

have a number of kombucha products available. Dragon Brew was a wonderful

herbal tonic that was much more than just kombucha.'

>

> Website : http://www.momentum98.com/dragon.html

>

> I do find that 2nd continuos brewing under anaerobic condition produces really

delicious (imo) KT which is really different from straight from brewing jar. I

add honey and whatever is available/takes my fancy and leave it to ferment

longer in a cold room as if I'm brewing my beer/wine (I make these as well). The

taste is totally different and I can see 'Jun' being marketed as a superior

product - as the brewing gadgets has to be sterilised and works out expensive

especially the barrels which can handle high pressures! Of course everything is

expensive in Britain - but since tasting this and the commercial Kombucha from

Whole Food London, I prefer 2nd CB under anaerobic system.

>

> I hope that this will help towards solving some of the mysterious 'JUN' or

rather hyped superior/better than Kombucha drink! I was caught out as well as I

pestered many of my oriental friends and strangers to the extent of getting

Charity workers who were going out to the Far East for their work to get JUN for

me! So far none and the locals never heard of 'JUN'.

>

> If anybody out there has some 'JUN' to share a small piece with me (will be

paid well by me) to prove me wrong - please pm me offline as I have all sorts of

brewery equipment/tools to make it work. I love experimenting and I also can

study in depth the micro organism as I have tools/gadgets to do that.

[Guest guest]

you are too funny! they are pretty easy to find,it seems to be quite a

stimulating combo-the yerba santa has qualities like ma hung, and the schizandra

berries are quite a pick me up as well. i am not sure how the fennel and

skullcap will act in this blend, hopefully it will take the edge off, but i am

going to use this carefully. the kava kava seems a little out of place, but we

will see. i made a kt with powdered ma hung-just a tiny bit- roobios, and green

tea, and i could have cleaned the whole neighborhood. anyway, i will whip

something up soon. or maybe i could just find some amphetamines...joking!

gail

could it have enough arcane ingredients?

[Guest guest]

Hi, Gail. You clearly know a *LOT* more about herbs than I do;

I'm mainly familiar w/ basic, garden-variety herbs for cooking.

> i made a kt with powdered ma hung-just a tiny bit- roobios, and

> green tea, and i could have cleaned the whole neighborhood.

Really?! Hmmm... gonna have to schedule a trip across town

to the herb shop. Thx for the encouragement!

Vicki in Orlando

>

> you are too funny! they are pretty easy to find,it seems to be quite

> a stimulating combo-the yerba santa has qualities like ma hung, and

> the schizandra berries are quite a pick me up as well. i am not sure

> how the fennel and skullcap will act in this blend, hopefully it will

> take the edge off, but i am going to use this carefully. the kava

> kava seems a little out of place, but we will see. i made a kt with

> powdered ma hung-just a tiny bit- roobios, and green tea, and i could

> have cleaned the whole neighborhood. anyway, i will whip something up

> soon. or maybe i could just find some amphetamines...joking!

> gail

>

> > could it have enough arcane ingredients?

[Guest guest]

> Yes , a toast of bubbly " bucha " and many thanks to all sharing

> in! Warmly , Jahjet I wonder if we could have a Bucha time around

> the globe like 4.20

That's a great idea! I vote for early morning tho b/c I use a glass to energize

my day.

Any other votes?

Rodman

[Guest guest]

> Yes , a toast of bubbly " bucha " and many thanks to all sharing

> in! Warmly , Jahjet I wonder if we could have a Bucha time around

> the globe like 4.20

That's a great idea! I vote for early morning tho b/c I use a glass to energize

my day.

Any other votes?

Rodman

[Guest guest]

Jun is the Chinese word for " bacteria " - in chinese Kombucha is sometimes

called " hong cha jun " - literally red tea bacteria. I've wondered if that

is where this name came from and seeing all the secrecy around jun and how

it is made seems a bit suspicious to me. Perhaps it is kombucha brewed with

green tea and honey. Sounds delicious to me!

h

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Vicki <alt_ideas@...> wrote:

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> Hi, Gail. You clearly know a *LOT* more about herbs than I do;

> I'm mainly familiar w/ basic, garden-variety herbs for cooking.

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Vicki, clearly , one gets flying on ma-hung I took orbit the first I tried

it. There is a warning on that herb, some people need to be more careful than

others. Warmly, Jahjet

> >

> > you are too funny! they are pretty easy to find,it seems to be quite

> > a stimulating combo-the yerba santa has qualities like ma hung, and

> > the schizandra berries are quite a pick me up as well. i am not sure

> > how the fennel and skullcap will act in this blend, hopefully it will

> > take the edge off, but i am going to use this carefully. the kava

> > kava seems a little out of place, but we will see. i made a kt with

> > powdered ma hung-just a tiny bit- roobios, and green tea, and i could

> > have cleaned the whole neighborhood. anyway, i will whip something up

> > soon. or maybe i could just find some amphetamines...joking!

> > gail

> >

> > > could it have enough arcane ingredients?

>

[Guest guest]

Just a warning on Ma -Hung, Schizandra and kava kava, all those , are not for

the novice! There has been fatal ma-hung usings,Jahjet

>

> you are too funny! they are pretty easy to find,it seems to be quite a

stimulating combo-the yerba santa has qualities like ma hung, and the schizandra

berries are quite a pick me up as well. i am not sure how the fennel and

skullcap will act in this blend, hopefully it will take the edge off, but i am

going to use this carefully. the kava kava seems a little out of place, but we

will see. i made a kt with powdered ma hung-just a tiny bit- roobios, and green

tea, and i could have cleaned the whole neighborhood. anyway, i will whip

something up soon. or maybe i could just find some amphetamines...joking!

> gail

>

> could it have enough arcane ingredients?

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jahjet, for the " warning " ! :-)

Vicki

>

>

> Hi, Vicki, clearly , one gets flying on ma-hung I took orbit the

> first I tried it. There is a warning on that herb, some people need

> to be more careful than others. Warmly, Jahjet

[Guest guest]

yes, be careful with the ma-hung, a little goes a looooong way, it is almost

impossible to find, the fda had it taken off the market. kava kava is totally

safe, you may need a nice nap if you take too much, but its far safer than

pharma. drugs. as far as the berries, i haven't used them much, but will play

carefully. most herbs have 'buffers' put there by mother nature, so they are

pretty safe. it is when we start monkeying around with them, then there is

trouble. if making kt with any herbs, go slow, as the kombucha seems to amplify

their effect

gail

> Just a warning on Ma -Hung, Schizandra and kava kava, all those , are not for

the novice! There has been fatal ma-hung usings,Jahjet

[Guest guest]

> > i made a kt with powdered ma hung-just a tiny bit- roobios, and

> > green tea, and i could have cleaned the whole neighborhood.

>

> Really?! Hmmm... gonna have to schedule a trip across town

> to the herb shop. Thx for the encouragement!

Isn't ma hung an alternate spelling of " ma huang " , which is Chinese for ephedra?

Which is banned by the FDA, NFL, NBA, and the International Olympic Committee

(IOC)!?

If so, I'd be careful about brewing a batch of " ma hung kt " . I'm not sure the

local herb shop can carry that?

[Guest guest]

Y " JUN " feeds on Green Tea and Honey How do I get this JUN topic OT now. JUN

has nothing to do with Ma-Huang-Ephedra I got enough info on " JUN " unless

someone has the culture, and would like to share some> Warmly Jahjet

kombucha tea , " iwanttokeepanon " <IwantToKeepAnon@...>

wrote:

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> > > i made a kt with powdered ma hung-just a tiny bit- roobios, and

> > > green tea, and i could have cleaned the whole neighborhood.

> >

> > Really?! Hmmm... gonna have to schedule a trip across town

> > to the herb shop. Thx for the encouragement!

>

> Isn't ma hung an alternate spelling of " ma huang " , which is Chinese for

ephedra? Which is banned by the FDA, NFL, NBA, and the International Olympic

Committee (IOC)!?

>

> If so, I'd be careful about brewing a batch of " ma hung kt " . I'm not sure the

local herb shop can carry that?

>

[Guest guest]

" JUN " eats Honey and Green Tea,and totally harmless, what I hear ,Peace Jahjet

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> >

> >

> > > > i made a kt with powdered ma hung-just a tiny bit- roobios, and

> > > > green tea, and i could have cleaned the whole neighborhood.

> > >

> > > Really?! Hmmm... gonna have to schedule a trip across town

> > > to the herb shop. Thx for the encouragement!

> >

> > Isn't ma hung an alternate spelling of " ma huang " , which is Chinese for

ephedra? Which is banned by the FDA, NFL, NBA, and the International Olympic

Committee (IOC)!?

> >

> > If so, I'd be careful about brewing a batch of " ma hung kt " . I'm not sure

the local herb shop can carry that?

> >

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