Re: High frequency coherence or Locking

[Guest guest]

,The whole idea of the training plan is that you test each of the options and work with the one that seems to have the best response/works the best.  To keep training for so many sessions on something that's not working for you seems rather stubborn (maybe you really do have high fastwave coherence).  Try other options from your training plan and see if you find one that the brain DOES respond to.

Also remember that high fastwave coherence can be related to muscle or electromagnetic artifacts, in which case you brain will never succeed in changing them.Pete

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On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:58 AM, davidkaus1975 <davidkaus1975@...> wrote:

 

Anyone know of any good protocols or strategies for addressing locking. I have consistant high frequency coherence at F3F4 and P3P4. The multiband coherence down protocol does not seem to work. 6 months of training and I haven't been able to lower it.

Also can anyone tell me what the normal alpha peak frequencies for eyes closed say at Fz and Oz

Cheers

[Guest guest]

Cheers Pete,

I have tried all protocols. I thought the multiband coherence down would be the

best protocol for lowering high coherence. On further research I have found

that this is sometimes not tolerated well (as with me). Since the other

protocols have not addressed the high coherence either, I'm searching for other

strategies that might work to lower coherence. Do you have any other

suggestions from your bag of tricks?

Also can anyone tell me what the normal alpha peak frequencies for eyes

closed say at Fz and Oz

Thanks again

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> > Anyone know of any good protocols or strategies for addressing locking. I

> > have consistant high frequency coherence at F3F4 and P3P4. The multiband

> > coherence down protocol does not seem to work. 6 months of training and I

> > haven't been able to lower it.

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> > Also can anyone tell me what the normal alpha peak frequencies for eyes

> > closed say at Fz and Oz

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> > Cheers

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[Guest guest]

,I've never been a big fan of " sculpting " the EEG according to what it " should " look like.  High fastwave coherence isn't an issue for me, but if the client experiences rigidity of thought, obsessiveness or compulsiveness and has high frontal coherence in fastwaves, then I'd try to find what impacted those training objectives.

Alpha peaks should be around 10Hz, though they may be higher in back.Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...

http://www.brain-trainer.comUSA 678 224 5895BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 9:38 AM, davidkaus1975 <davidkaus1975@...> wrote:

 

Cheers Pete,

I have tried all protocols. I thought the multiband coherence down would be the best protocol for lowering high coherence. On further research I have found that this is sometimes not tolerated well (as with me). Since the other protocols have not addressed the high coherence either, I'm searching for other strategies that might work to lower coherence. Do you have any other suggestions from your bag of tricks?

Also can anyone tell me what the normal alpha peak frequencies for eyes

closed say at Fz and Oz

Thanks again

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> > Anyone know of any good protocols or strategies for addressing locking. I

> > have consistant high frequency coherence at F3F4 and P3P4. The multiband

> > coherence down protocol does not seem to work. 6 months of training and I

> > haven't been able to lower it.

> >

> > Also can anyone tell me what the normal alpha peak frequencies for eyes

> > closed say at Fz and Oz

> >

> > Cheers

> >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Pete,

I have consistently high coherence around my frontals. I can be a bit obsessive

and rigid at times.. would you say training down high beta (23-38) and say 2-6

would be a good strategy around F3F4?

I took a reading from my partner, and found her coherences were well below 40..

I now know where they should be.. I've also ruled out muscle artifact, as I've

experimented with t3 t4 and the high frequ. coherences were low, where as around

c3c4 it was high again.

Cheers

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> > > > Anyone know of any good protocols or strategies for addressing

> > locking. I

> > > > have consistant high frequency coherence at F3F4 and P3P4. The

> > multiband

> > > > coherence down protocol does not seem to work. 6 months of training

> > and I

> > > > haven't been able to lower it.

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> > > > Also can anyone tell me what the normal alpha peak frequencies for eyes

> > > > closed say at Fz and Oz

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> > > > Cheers

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[Guest guest]

Since increasing synchrony is supposed to be measurable in increasing amplitude, presumably decreasing amplitude would be a way to reduce synchrony.  nIR HEG in the prefrontals is also purported by Rob Coben to help break up hypercoherence in the front of the brain.  

Training F3 and F4 to do two different things at the same time might also help.Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...

http://www.brain-trainer.comUSA 678 224 5895BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:40 AM, davidkaus1975 <davidkaus1975@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Pete,

I have consistently high coherence around my frontals. I can be a bit obsessive and rigid at times.. would you say training down high beta (23-38) and say 2-6 would be a good strategy around F3F4?

I took a reading from my partner, and found her coherences were well below 40.. I now know where they should be.. I've also ruled out muscle artifact, as I've experimented with t3 t4 and the high frequ. coherences were low, where as around c3c4 it was high again.

Cheers

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> > > > Anyone know of any good protocols or strategies for addressing

> > locking. I

> > > > have consistant high frequency coherence at F3F4 and P3P4. The

> > multiband

> > > > coherence down protocol does not seem to work. 6 months of training

> > and I

> > > > haven't been able to lower it.

> > > >

> > > > Also can anyone tell me what the normal alpha peak frequencies for eyes

> > > > closed say at Fz and Oz

> > > >

> > > > Cheers

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