medication effect on assessment

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Hello I have two patients, one has sleep problems who receives mirro, the other is impulsive who receives cipralex .I wonder what will be the effect of the medications on the assessment such as qeeg.

Thank for any suggestions.Nurit

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Jay Gunkelman put together a list a long while ago that detailed eeg effects of many medications.If you are interested I can make a copy availableOn Mar 14, 2012, at 2:13 PM, pvdtlc wrote:There's very little research on the EEG effects of individual drugs--which of course no one ever receives any more--much less the combined effects of the huge number of potential combinations of drugs.Whatever is the brain and whatever the drugs, that's the brain you have to train. I do recommend that clients get information about signs of "over-medication" on all drugs they are taking. NF training is likely to change neurotransmitter availability, so when there is too much of a specific one, the client and his/her physician can begin backing down the dosage of whatever is indicated.Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.comUSA 678 224 5895BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc.On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:04 PM, nurit haran <harannurit@...> wrote: I have two patients, one has sleep problems who receives mirro, the other is impulsive who receives cipralex .I wonder what will be the effect of the medications on the assessment such as qeeg.Thank for any suggestions.Nurit

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yes george, I will appreciate it.Thank youNuritOn Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:20 PM, <gmartin@...> wrote:

 

Jay Gunkelman put together a list a long while ago that detailed eeg effects of many medications.If you are interested I can make a copy available

On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:13 PM, pvdtlc wrote:

There's very little research on the EEG effects of individual drugs--which of course no one ever receives any more--much less the combined effects of the huge number of potential combinations of drugs.

Whatever is the brain and whatever the drugs, that's the brain you have to train.  I do recommend that clients get information about signs of " over-medication " on all drugs they are taking.  NF training is likely to change neurotransmitter availability, so when there is too much of a specific one, the client and his/her physician can begin backing down the dosage of whatever is indicated.

Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com

USA 678 224 5895BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc.On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:04 PM, nurit haran <harannurit@...> wrote:

 I have two patients, one has sleep problems who receives mirro, the other is impulsive who receives cipralex .

I wonder what will be the effect of the medications on the assessment such as qeeg.Thank for any suggestions.Nurit

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I have uploaded a file to my box.com account, The zipped archive contains the eeg effects document and a chart of the half life of various medslinkhttp://www.box.com/s/119503cbabd630f58792On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:31 PM, nurit haran wrote:yes george, I will appreciate it.Thank youNuritOn Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:20 PM, <gmartin@...> wrote: Jay Gunkelman put together a list a long while ago that detailed eeg effects of many medications.If you are interested I can make a copy availableOn Mar 14, 2012, at 2:13 PM, pvdtlc wrote:There's very little research on the EEG effects of individual drugs--which of course no one ever receives any more--much less the combined effects of the huge number of potential combinations of drugs.Whatever is the brain and whatever the drugs, that's the brain you have to train. I do recommend that clients get information about signs of "over-medication" on all drugs they are taking. NF training is likely to change neurotransmitter availability, so when there is too much of a specific one, the client and his/her physician can begin backing down the dosage of whatever is indicated.Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.comUSA 678 224 5895BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc.On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:04 PM, nurit haran <harannurit@...> wrote: I have two patients, one has sleep problems who receives mirro, the other is impulsive who receives cipralex .I wonder what will be the effect of the medications on the assessment such as qeeg.Thank for any suggestions.Nurit

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Thanks for the list as it is good to have something

to reference when looking at the assessment. However, sad but true Pete’s

statement of the rarity of one drug does add confusion to the mix.

Especially since often the overmedication effects of the drugs often overlap

with similarities and doctors are not in the practice of reducing medication.

All the best,

Millie

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Regarding med, multiple meds, side effefts, over medication.Epocrates has a great smart phone app (free) that lists side effects etc for most prescription meds. It also lets you look up possible problems with combinations of meds. There is also web access athttps://online.epocrates.com/I have used this to look help inform clients about side effects, symptoms of over medication, On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Millie Souders wrote:Thanks for the list as it is good to have something to reference when looking at the assessment. However, sad but true Pete’s statement of the rarity of one drug does add confusion to the mix. Especially since often the overmedication effects of the drugs often overlap with similarities and doctors are not in the practice of reducing medication. All the best,Millie__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6965 (20120314) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

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Thank you, it is very helpful.NuritOn Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:53 PM, <gmartin@...> wrote:

 

I have uploaded a file to my box.com account,  The zipped archive contains the eeg effects document and a chart of the half life of various meds

linkhttp://www.box.com/s/119503cbabd630f58792

On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:31 PM, nurit haran wrote:yes george, I will appreciate it.Thank youNurit

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:20 PM,  <gmartin@...> wrote:

 Jay Gunkelman put together a list a long while ago that detailed eeg effects of many medications.If you are interested I can make a copy available

On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:13 PM, pvdtlc wrote:

There's very little research on the EEG effects of individual drugs--which of course no one ever receives any more--much less the combined effects of the huge number of potential combinations of drugs.

Whatever is the brain and whatever the drugs, that's the brain you have to train.  I do recommend that clients get information about signs of " over-medication " on all drugs they are taking.  NF training is likely to change neurotransmitter availability, so when there is too much of a specific one, the client and his/her physician can begin backing down the dosage of whatever is indicated.

Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com

USA 678 224 5895BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc.On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:04 PM, nurit haran <harannurit@...> wrote:

 I have two patients, one has sleep problems who receives mirro, the other is impulsive who receives cipralex .

I wonder what will be the effect of the medications on the assessment such as qeeg.Thank for any suggestions.Nurit

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Thank you, it is very helpful.NuritOn Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:53 PM, <gmartin@...> wrote:

 

I have uploaded a file to my box.com account,  The zipped archive contains the eeg effects document and a chart of the half life of various meds

linkhttp://www.box.com/s/119503cbabd630f58792

On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:31 PM, nurit haran wrote:yes george, I will appreciate it.Thank youNurit

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:20 PM,  <gmartin@...> wrote:

 Jay Gunkelman put together a list a long while ago that detailed eeg effects of many medications.If you are interested I can make a copy available

On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:13 PM, pvdtlc wrote:

There's very little research on the EEG effects of individual drugs--which of course no one ever receives any more--much less the combined effects of the huge number of potential combinations of drugs.

Whatever is the brain and whatever the drugs, that's the brain you have to train.  I do recommend that clients get information about signs of " over-medication " on all drugs they are taking.  NF training is likely to change neurotransmitter availability, so when there is too much of a specific one, the client and his/her physician can begin backing down the dosage of whatever is indicated.

Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com

USA 678 224 5895BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc.On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:04 PM, nurit haran <harannurit@...> wrote:

 I have two patients, one has sleep problems who receives mirro, the other is impulsive who receives cipralex .

I wonder what will be the effect of the medications on the assessment such as qeeg.Thank for any suggestions.Nurit