Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I watched part of some film on TV last night and in it was potrayed the American Prom and inevitable prom night. To my knowledge there are not proms in England, although I think the upper classes have debuton(sp?) balls. What I was wondering with all these films potraying the American Prom, is it really accurate? Is it true that most are wanting to have sex on prom night? > > I found this article yesterday actually. This sentiment has been predicted > for the last 30 years or so and I recall reading articles about it in high > school even. > > > > > Where Is Love? > > Richmond Times-Dispatch > Aug 30, 2006 > > > Ray McAllister's Saturday column opened many eyes. He discussed a mother of a > VCU student who, while searching the Internet, found " perhaps 100 pictures > of VCU students, mostly of last year's freshman class, in various stages of > intoxication and, often, undress. " > The photos depicted dirty dancing and young people wearing little but > underwear. " Others showed students passed out on the floor, vomit sometimes > nearby, " wrote McAllister, " drinking students sometimes posing with the body. " > The scenes could come from the " Girls Gone Wild " videos advertised on > late-night TV. The activity goes several steps beyond " Animal House. " This is not > the ribaldry described by Fitzgerald, either. The atmosphere suggests > cheerlessness. The students appear more robotic than robust. They may be bored; they > certainly are boring. > The situation invites the censure age always directs toward youth. Yet the > enduring reaction is less of Puritan sensibilities offended and outraged than > of sorrow for young lives deprived of joy. Although extreme, Behl's > tragedy may have been emblematic. Sexual liberation has become sexual > enslavement. > Where is love? These children are missing so much. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I watched part of some film on TV last night and in it was potrayed the American Prom and inevitable prom night. To my knowledge there are not proms in England, although I think the upper classes have debuton(sp?) balls. What I was wondering with all these films potraying the American Prom, is it really accurate? Is it true that most are wanting to have sex on prom night? > > I found this article yesterday actually. This sentiment has been predicted > for the last 30 years or so and I recall reading articles about it in high > school even. > > > > > Where Is Love? > > Richmond Times-Dispatch > Aug 30, 2006 > > > Ray McAllister's Saturday column opened many eyes. He discussed a mother of a > VCU student who, while searching the Internet, found " perhaps 100 pictures > of VCU students, mostly of last year's freshman class, in various stages of > intoxication and, often, undress. " > The photos depicted dirty dancing and young people wearing little but > underwear. " Others showed students passed out on the floor, vomit sometimes > nearby, " wrote McAllister, " drinking students sometimes posing with the body. " > The scenes could come from the " Girls Gone Wild " videos advertised on > late-night TV. The activity goes several steps beyond " Animal House. " This is not > the ribaldry described by Fitzgerald, either. The atmosphere suggests > cheerlessness. The students appear more robotic than robust. They may be bored; they > certainly are boring. > The situation invites the censure age always directs toward youth. Yet the > enduring reaction is less of Puritan sensibilities offended and outraged than > of sorrow for young lives deprived of joy. Although extreme, Behl's > tragedy may have been emblematic. Sexual liberation has become sexual > enslavement. > Where is love? These children are missing so much. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 " To my knowledge there are not proms in England, although I think the upper classes have debuton(sp?) balls. " That might be " debutante " (sp?). " What I was wondering with all these films potraying the American Prom, is it really accurate? " When it was conceived, proms were like gala affairs. The boy and girl dressed up and went dancing and socialized at school in a gym or cafeteria that was made full of glitz and glamour. Now, with parents these days being lax, the aim is to whiz through the festivities so you can go off and get drunk, get high, and have sex. " Is it true that most are wanting to have sex on prom night? " Then...no. Now...yes. Tom Aministrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Like anything else, I think the media latches onto the most sensational, scandalous behavior. Then, when that's the only behavior being depicted, it APPEARS to be the norm. Of course, LOTS of high school and college students are degrading themselves, and others, with intoxication and meaningless sexual encounters. There are also many others who AREN'T indulging in such behavior. Those of us who DON'T act that way (me included) should feel proud of ourselves, and should have our resolve strengthened by such media depictions.Lust IS NOT love, although it can be a wonderful component of the romantic love experience.If you MUST become inebriated to have fun, you're NOT really having fun. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I find it very sad to see how the media influences people. I suppose a lot of teens watch such movies and see other potrayals of how they think they are meant to be and consider it the norm and perhaps try and fit into that mould, which is really just a construct, but then becomes reality by those that mimic it :-( Oh hum. I guess there would be a lot of peer pressure too - not that I really know about that - having never fit in :-) It is not just with teenagers that I see the media influencing but in other areas too - the media and goverment have always created scapegoats to give the public someone to blame for things going wrong - I am seeing this again - it is sad that often the public are all too ready to buy it too instead of looking beyond and really thinking about things. > > > In a message dated 8/31/2006 8:06:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, > ron18255@... writes: > > Like anything else, I think the media latches onto the most sensational, > scandalous behavior. Then, when that's the only behavior being depicted, it > APPEARS to be the norm. Of course, LOTS of high school and college students are > degrading themselves, and others, with intoxication and meaningless sexual > encounters. There are also many others who AREN'T indulging in such behavior. > Those of us who DON'T act that way (me included) should feel proud of > ourselves, and should have our resolve strengthened by such media depictions. > > Lust IS NOT love, although it can be a wonderful component of the romantic > love experience. > > If you MUST become inebriated to have fun, you're NOT really having fun. > > > > I agree. Not all of them do, but it seems to be an increasing number. I also > agree very strongly that if you have to get drunk to have fun, then you're > not really having fun, but I would say rather that there is something very > wrong with you. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I agree with both of these opinions. Thanks for posting them. Additionally, I think that if Aspies are to give autism and Asperger's Syndrome a good name, we should refrain from falling into the lustul and inebriating activities that our neurotypical counterparts seem to enjoy so often. If we want respect from the non-Aspie community, we have to earn it. Tom Administrator Lust IS NOT love, although it can be a wonderful component of the romantic love experience. If you MUST become inebriated to have fun, you're NOT really having fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hi Bill, I cannot remember if you have posted here before or not, but if not, welcome. I agree with your statement, and as I said earlier, I would hope that Aspies would circumvent this sort of pitfall, both to keep their characters in good standing with others, but also to maintain their own sense of integrity. I didn't even go to prom. Had I gone, it would have been alone, and I probably would have been a wallflower - but still a gentleman. Tom Administrator What I was wondering with all these films potraying the American Prom, is it really accurate? Is it true that most are wanting to have sex on prom night? Depends on the film, but they're all more or less accurate. Sadly enough, even the portrayal of the prom in " " wasn't far off the mark. Proms have, for the last 30 years at least, been mostly excuses to have a school-sanctioned night of partying and sex. I'm not sure how far back you'd have to go before you find a time when it's not true, but I know it was true when I was in high school, back in the 70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 I went and wished I had never ever had thought of going. Uncouth boys with no table manners, loud bossy girls with larger egos than should be allowed, and drugs being done almost at every table of the dinner. It was the biggest waste of money for a ticket, my dress was borrowed. Every picture I had of that night has been destroyed, intentionally by me. The group I was with did go to a hotel room but everyone there was so into the drugs that the hotel security came to see what was happening. I was thankfully in a bathroom in the lobby when people began to get arrested so was able to leave. I think teen hormones and lack of good judgement will always lead to poor choices. I'm a big believer in teaching girls to become ladies who have respect for themselves. They must have it drilled into their heads that they are better off without a loser in their lives and to wait for love that comes with friendship, honesty, and trust. Kim > I didn't even go to prom. Had I gone, it would have been alone, and I probably would have been a wallflower - but still a gentleman. > > Tom > Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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