Re: Noises.

[Guest guest]

Dear General Rant ... LOL. (Sorry, I just couldn't resist.)

I know what you mean. Even in the allegedly quiet hours of the

evening, when I am out on my front porch, I can hear a car or truck

engine revving somewhere in the distance or people arguing (or

partying depending on the night of the week) just down the way or some

other rude noise that rips the darkness apart.

I have gone outside at 2 in the morning in the middle of the week --

expecting that it will be quiet and still -- only to be greeted by

noises that ought not to be happening at that time of day or night.

And what about parents screaming endlessly at their children who are

screaming and crying right back? Did it ever dawn on any of these

grown ups to just walk up to the child and have a real conversation

with him or her thereby removing any need for screaming and carrying

on? Sheesh!

Every morning, regardless of the day of the week, at 10 minutes to 7,

the neighbour 5 doors down to my right shrieks out the front door at

her daughter, " CRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYSS-

TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL! " And she continues to call her daughter's

name out until such a time as either the woman 2 doors down to the

left of me invites her to start the coffee klatch early or Crystal

actually answers her mother.

The worst part of noise is the endless nattering and chattering that

goes on ALL day long 2 doors down to the left of me ... mindless and

useless chattering and nattering on subjects that are pointless and

inane. And gossip! If I wanted to write a soap opera, this is the

place to do serious research for such a project !!!

Even if you try to get away to a nice quiet lake, it doesn't take long

before you hear a jet ski race by or a Zodiac drift by with some

maniac cursing as he tries repeatedly to get the motor started before

he hits the dreaded 'motor monsters' or a motor boat dragging some

idiot behind him in a rubber tube.

Sometimes noise can truly make you physically ill. There have ben

times, in the past, when I did not have to worry about taking care of

another person, when I would isolate myself from the world and spend

two or three blissful weeks hiding out in my apartment (which was

soundproofed because I oftentimes rehearsed or recorded in my

apartment). Those were times when I could truly regenerate !!!

Peace and quiet. People should try it more often.

Raven

>

> Just wondered if any of you ever get jolted by unexpected noises.

>

> I wish there was a day when I could go outside and not have someone

> fire up a weed wacker, lawn mower, power saw, chain saw, leaf

blower,

> etc. or hear a loud motocycle accelerated RIGHT in front of me, or a

> car sqeal its tires, or a horn honking, or a siren starting up.

>

> Ugh.

>

> Just a general rant.

>

> Tom

> Administrator

>

[Guest guest]

Today an annoying thing happened. Someone on the block had a party,

and everyone parked almost directly in front of my house so it was

almost impossible to get out of the driveway without hitting anyone.

You could hear the loud voices increase in direct prorportion to the

amount of alcohol consumed. And everybody talking about nothing.

Although it seems the things people talked about the most were

previous parties where everyone got drunk and said and did silly

things.

I got the idea from observing these people that for them, life was a

sort of carousel of parties in which you hop on and hop off whenever

the carousel gets going. It has the sameride each time, but for some

reason, it is fun even though you are just going in circles.

I would hate to live alife like these people live and thank God every

day that I am a loner.

Tom

Administrator

Re: Noises.

Dear General Rant ... LOL. (Sorry, I just couldn't resist.)

I know what you mean. Even in the allegedly quiet hours of the

evening, when I am out on my front porch, I can hear a car or truck

engine revving somewhere in the distance or people arguing (or

partying depending on the night of the week) just down the way or some

other rude noise that rips the darkness apart.

I have gone outside at 2 in the morning in the middle of the week --

expecting that it will be quiet and still -- only to be greeted by

noises that ought not to be happening at that time of day or night.

And what about parents screaming endlessly at their children who are

screaming and crying right back? Did it ever dawn on any of these

grown ups to just walk up to the child and have a real conversation

with him or her thereby removing any need for screaming and carrying

on? Sheesh!

Every morning, regardless of the day of the week, at 10 minutes to 7,

the neighbour 5 doors down to my right shrieks out the front door at

her daughter, " CRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYSS-

TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL! " And she continues to call her daughter's

name out until such a time as either the woman 2 doors down to the

left of me invites her to start the coffee klatch early or Crystal

actually answers her mother.

The worst part of noise is the endless nattering and chattering that

goes on ALL day long 2 doors down to the left of me ... mindless and

useless chattering and nattering on subjects that are pointless and

inane. And gossip! If I wanted to write a soap opera, this is the

place to do serious research for such a project !!!

Even if you try to get away to a nice quiet lake, it doesn't take long

before you hear a jet ski race by or a Zodiac drift by with some

maniac cursing as he tries repeatedly to get the motor started before

he hits the dreaded 'motor monsters' or a motor boat dragging some

idiot behind him in a rubber tube.

Sometimes noise can truly make you physically ill. There have ben

times, in the past, when I did not have to worry about taking care of

another person, when I would isolate myself from the world and spend

two or three blissful weeks hiding out in my apartment (which was

soundproofed because I oftentimes rehearsed or recorded in my

apartment). Those were times when I could truly regenerate !!!

Peace and quiet. People should try it more often.

Raven

[Guest guest]

HA! The General thing is funny. It seems like there are parties going on all the time and when the party people get some of what they've been dishing out they get all perturbed. Can't you send the Apt. manager a note expressing annoyance over the lady who yells everyday? You have the soundproof acoustic foam that's placed on walls? There's an episode now of Ren & Stimpy where Ren can't sleep and Stimpy is trying to get his brain started and it sounds like a car that's missing a spark plug. I've seen it too many times for it to be on right now. I take melatonin under my tongue so it absorbs quicker. Caffeine is no good for insomnia. Magnesium or calcium are good before bed depending on the sympathetic and autonomic nervous systems from a report I just read the other day. Oh, those horrible sap-sop Operas. My Grandma watched those forever. She'd use it to go to sleep for a few hours before she went to her work at 11:00 or so at night. I think she

watched to actually go to sleep! ha ha ha ha. Children are jacked up on sugar all day. It's no wonder they're full of restless energy they don't know what to do with!!!!!!!! Parents will just give in to whatever whim the child has from whatever commercial they saw advertising ADD-inducing sugar labeled as food. I didn't go to a lake today. I went to a stream and found a few interesting rocks. It was fun. It's good that you have a room you can go to. Everyone needs a constructive quiet time, not everyone does it though which is a shame. ravenmagic2003 <ravenmagic2003@...> wrote: Dear General Rant ... LOL. (Sorry, I just couldn't resist.)I know what you mean. Even in the allegedly quiet hours of the evening, when I am out on my front porch, I can hear a car or truck engine revving somewhere in the distance or people arguing (or partying depending on the night of the week) just down the way or some other rude noise that rips the darkness apart. I have gone outside at 2 in the morning in the middle of the week -- expecting that it will be quiet and still -- only to be greeted by noises that ought not to be happening at that time of day or night.And what about parents screaming endlessly at their children who are screaming and crying right back? Did it ever dawn on any of these grown ups to just walk up to the child and have a real conversation with him or her thereby removing any need for screaming and carrying

on? Sheesh!Every morning, regardless of the day of the week, at 10 minutes to 7, the neighbour 5 doors down to my right shrieks out the front door at her daughter, "CRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYSS-TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!" And she continues to call her daughter's name out until such a time as either the woman 2 doors down to the left of me invites her to start the coffee klatch early or Crystal actually answers her mother. The worst part of noise is the endless nattering and chattering that goes on ALL day long 2 doors down to the left of me ... mindless and useless chattering and nattering on subjects that are pointless and inane. And gossip! If I wanted to write a soap opera, this is the place to do serious research for such a project !!!Even if you try to get away to a nice quiet lake, it doesn't take long before you hear a jet ski race by or a Zodiac drift by with some maniac cursing as

he tries repeatedly to get the motor started before he hits the dreaded 'motor monsters' or a motor boat dragging some idiot behind him in a rubber tube.Sometimes noise can truly make you physically ill. There have ben times, in the past, when I did not have to worry about taking care of another person, when I would isolate myself from the world and spend two or three blissful weeks hiding out in my apartment (which was soundproofed because I oftentimes rehearsed or recorded in my apartment). Those were times when I could truly regenerate !!!Peace and quiet. People should try it more often. Raven>> Just wondered if any of you ever get jolted by unexpected noises. > > I wish there was a day when I could go outside and not

have someone > fire up a weed wacker, lawn mower, power saw, chain saw, leaf blower, > etc. or hear a loud motocycle accelerated RIGHT in front of me, or a > car sqeal its tires, or a horn honking, or a siren starting up.> > Ugh.> > Just a general rant.> > Tom> Administrator>

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Tom

said: <<<Just wondered if

any of you ever get jolted by unexpected noises.

I wish there was a day when I could go outside and not have someone

fire up a weed wacker, lawn mower, power saw, chain

saw, leaf blower,

etc. or hear a loud motocycle accelerated RIGHT in

front of me, or a

car sqeal its tires, or a horn honking, or a siren

starting up.<<<

Yes, I do.

There are a bunch of irresponsible kids in my neighborhood too who “burn

rubber” (foot on gas and breaks at same time) down the block and it

always scares me. Oh gosh, and the smell!!! I think the worst for me is how loud the

kids play their music in their cars... you can hear the “boom boom” of the bass a few blocks away and for some

reason that scares me worse than all the things you mentioned. We live a long block away from a main

highway and a few blocks away from a minor highway, and the fire dept is a few

blocks away in the other direction... the sirens are always going off around here. A lot of my neighbors have Harleys. The past few nights there have been

fireworks in the area (no idea why), yikes! The triplets and I are always jumping at

something!

Wendi

[Guest guest]

If it's any consolation, that's really bad for their cars...

Plank

WrongPlanet.net

>

> Tom said: <<<Just wondered if any of you ever get jolted by unexpected

> noises.

>

> I wish there was a day when I could go outside and not have someone

> fire up a weed wacker, lawn mower, power saw, chain saw, leaf blower,

> etc. or hear a loud motocycle accelerated RIGHT in front of me, or a

> car sqeal its tires, or a horn honking, or a siren starting up.<<<

>

> Yes, I do. There are a bunch of irresponsible kids in my neighborhood

> too who " burn rubber " (foot on gas and breaks at same time) down the

> block and it always scares me. Oh gosh, and the smell!!! I think the

> worst for me is how loud the kids play their music in their cars... you

> can hear the " boom boom " of the bass a few blocks away and for some

> reason that scares me worse than all the things you mentioned. We live

> a long block away from a main highway and a few blocks away from a minor

> highway, and the fire dept is a few blocks away in the other

> direction... the sirens are always going off around here. A lot of my

> neighbors have Harleys. The past few nights there have been fireworks

> in the area (no idea why), yikes! The triplets and I are always jumping

> at something!

>

> Wendi

>

[Guest guest]

Noises don't usually make me jumpy, though they can be annoying, like a barking dog down the street. What makes be jump are visual things. If I see something out of the ordinary, I startle a little, which is really more of an attack instinct than fear. For example, my mother has left some boxes on the stairs full of things she will be taking to school. Every time I walk through the hall I can see them even in my peripheral vision. Each time my head snaps toward them and there is sort of an instant threat assessment. Its rather annoying really. Still, I've managed to control it well enough that I don't often strike things on reflex like I used to. Good thing too since this afternoon I was in Best Buy and walking past a display with an LCD TV. Just as I rounded the corner, all this light and movement blew up right beside me. I'd have been in serious trouble if I'd have hit that thing.

[Guest guest]

My feeling is that loud noises are really thinly veiled frustration,

anger, rage and/or aggression. If someone else feels scared by what

they hear, what they are really picking up on are the vibes generated

by the people who made the noises.

Maybe it is just that I am Aspie, but I find myself jumping all the

time at things other people do not jump at, such as doors being shut

too loudly, pots being rattled in the kitchen...

I just wish that other people would realize how noisy they are or maybe

question their own habits.

I like quiet, and I don't think anyone likes too much noise, but the

average level of noise that we hear in the world (that is either man or

machine made) seems to me to be just too high.

Tom

Administrator

I think the worst for me is how loud the kids play their music in their

cars... you can hear the " boom boom " of the bass a few blocks away and

for some reason that scares me worse than all the things you mentioned.

[Guest guest]

Errrrrrrrrrr mobile phone rings - too many of them and they are

getting louder, people talking loud on mobiles everywhere. Bleeps and

alarms everywhere too.

About 2am last night I was trying to get to sleep and heard people

being loud in the park that my bedroom overlooks - I do wonder what

people are doing being loud in the park at 2am.

>

> My feeling is that loud noises are really thinly veiled

frustration,

> anger, rage and/or aggression. If someone else feels scared by what

> they hear, what they are really picking up on are the vibes

generated

> by the people who made the noises.

>

> Maybe it is just that I am Aspie, but I find myself jumping all the

> time at things other people do not jump at, such as doors being

shut

> too loudly, pots being rattled in the kitchen...

>

> I just wish that other people would realize how noisy they are or

maybe

> question their own habits.

>

> I like quiet, and I don't think anyone likes too much noise, but

the

> average level of noise that we hear in the world (that is either

man or

> machine made) seems to me to be just too high.

>

> Tom

> Administrator

[Guest guest]

I agree 100%. When I am home alone I never run the t.v., radio, and

have the computer speakers muted. I can tolerate noises but would

enjoy just the sound of cicadas, crickets, wild carnaries, wind

through the trees, etc.. natural sounds.

As far as car speakers booming, invest in hearing aids and you'll make

a bundle of money.

Kim

>

> I like quiet

> Tom

> Administrator

[Guest guest]

>

> " Just wondered if any of you ever get jolted by unexpected noises.

>

> I wish there was a day when I could go outside and not have someone

> fire up a weed wacker, lawn mower, power saw, chain saw, leaf blower,

> etc. or hear a loud motocycle accelerated RIGHT in front of me, or a

> car sqeal its tires, or a horn honking, or a siren starting up. "

All the time. Even someone saying my name if I don't see them first

will give me a scare. It's difficult.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> " My feeling is that loud noises are really thinly veiled

frustration,

> anger, rage and/or aggression. If someone else feels scared by what

> they hear, what they are really picking up on are the vibes

generated

> by the people who made the noises. "

I think that's true sometimes. Then there's adolescent boys who like

to make noise. But I think often it's our own reaction that is angry

and we displace it onto the noise. I feel like people are hurting me

with noise on purpose, though I know they're not. I do that with my

dyspraxia, too. If I bump into something I feel like that inanimate

object hit me! I can't seem to get rid of that feeling that inanimate

objects are attacking and hurting me.

>

> " Maybe it is just that I am Aspie, but I find myself jumping all the

> time at things other people do not jump at, such as doors being

shut

> too loudly, pots being rattled in the kitchen...

>

> I just wish that other people would realize how noisy they are or

maybe

> question their own habits. "

I feel that way too, but they don't think they're being loud so that

makes me think it's us. Some cultures are louder than others, and can

handle more noise, too.

I find I try to be extra quiet so as not to disturb people, but it's

only very recently that I asked myself why bother, they don't care

and don't notice. In fact, some people get irritated because I

startle them because I'm so quiet. Sometimes I walk toe-heel instead

of heel-toe so as to be quiet. It seems like an ideal to me to move

through space as quietly as possible. Alot of people can't stand

silence and need noise all the time, including when they go to sleep.

Ugh.

I was with a group of people yesterday that all laughed so loud that

once my eardrums vibrated with the noise. Double Ugh to that.

[Guest guest]

I am frequently ridiculed because of my silent way of walking also.

Thing is, I don't like to stomp around like other people do. I just

do not see the point in treading so hard that the floor vibrates.

Many people have been startled because I have walked up " silently "

behind them. The thing is, my " quiet " tread is noisy to my ears and I

don't see how it is that people cannot hear me approaching them.

Somemtimes I think I should have been a monk.

Tom

Administrator

I find I try to be extra quiet so as not to disturb people, but it's

only very recently that I asked myself why bother, they don't care

and don't notice. In fact, some people get irritated because I

startle them because I'm so quiet. Sometimes I walk toe-heel instead

of heel-toe so as to be quiet. It seems like an ideal to me to move

through space as quietly as possible. Alot of people can't stand

silence and need noise all the time, including when they go to sleep.

Ugh.

[Guest guest]

I only wish my family would walk like you! I used to imitate our

cats when I was young and got used to padding around without a

sound. In my home now, I can tell who is comming and going just by

the tromping, the worst being the stairs. You'd think they didn't

know where their feet are or they have lead filled shoes. I prefer

being barefooted as much as possible which makes me keep the floor

very clean. I cannot tolerate crumbs, dirt, dog hair etc. I don't

think you were meant to be a monk, maybe a sniper or security guard.

Kim

> Many people have been startled because I have walked up " silently "

> behind them.

> Tom

> Administrator

[Guest guest]

>

" Somemtimes I think I should have been a monk. "

I'm reading a sci fi book in which a colony on another planet is

considered to have failed and everyone was to leave on shuttles. One

older woman who was tired of how her son and daughter-in-law treated

her and didn't want to leave her garden, hid and stayed behind. She was

so happy to be alone and have the colony to herself. The book goes into

what she's doing at the abandoned colony to improve it and tailor it

for herself. She's gardening and taking care of the animals that were

left behind. It's kind of a fantasy for someone who dreams of being

alone and being able to change their surroundings to the way they want

them to be.

[Guest guest]

I have the Christian Aspie Forum. People have sometimes thought me to

be a pastor for this reason. I will admit I once thought of being a

pastor and have been encouraged to go into seminanry by three other

pastors over various periods in my life.

Tom

Administrator

I don't think you were meant to be a monk, maybe a sniper or security

guard.

Kim

[Guest guest]

>

" Somemtimes I think I should have been a monk. "

I'm reading a sci fi book in which a colony on another planet is

considered to have failed and everyone was to leave on shuttles. One

older woman who was tired of how her son and daughter-in-law treated

her and didn't want to leave her garden, hid and stayed behind. She

was

so happy to be alone and have the colony to herself. The book goes

into

what she's doing at the abandoned colony to improve it and tailor it

for herself. She's gardening and taking care of the animals that were

left behind. It's kind of a fantasy for someone who dreams of being

alone and being able to change their surroundings to the way they want

them to be.

[Guest guest]

>

>>

> " What's the name of the book? It sounds like something I might be

> inclined to pick up. "

It's 'Remnant Population' by Moon. She has an autistic son

and has written a book where an autistic guy is the main character,

called, 'Speed of Dark'. I haven't read that one yet, but look forward

to it. I like 'Remnant Population' and it's very 'readable'.

>

[Guest guest]

>

>>

> " What's the name of the book? It sounds like something I might be

> inclined to pick up. "

It's 'Remnant Population' by Moon. She has an autistic son

and has written a book where an autistic guy is the main character,

called, 'Speed of Dark'. I haven't read that one yet, but look forward

to it. I like 'Remnant Population' and it's very 'readable'.

>

[Guest guest]

" I feel that way too, but they don't think they're being loud so that

makes me think it's us. "

I often feel my son is talking way too loudly when he is right next

to me and often tell him he does not need to shout at me. Once or

twice a friend has pointed out that they think it is me that has over

sensitive hearing and that he is not shouting at all, but it

certainly feels like it to me - I often say to him, 'I am not deaf,

please don't shout at me'.

> >

> > " My feeling is that loud noises are really thinly veiled

> frustration,

> > anger, rage and/or aggression. If someone else feels scared by

what

> > they hear, what they are really picking up on are the vibes

> generated

> > by the people who made the noises. "

>

> I think that's true sometimes. Then there's adolescent boys who

like

> to make noise. But I think often it's our own reaction that is

angry

> and we displace it onto the noise. I feel like people are hurting

me

> with noise on purpose, though I know they're not. I do that with my

> dyspraxia, too. If I bump into something I feel like that inanimate

> object hit me! I can't seem to get rid of that feeling that

inanimate

> objects are attacking and hurting me.

> >

> > " Maybe it is just that I am Aspie, but I find myself jumping all

the

> > time at things other people do not jump at, such as doors being

> shut

> > too loudly, pots being rattled in the kitchen...

> >

> > I just wish that other people would realize how noisy they are or

> maybe

> > question their own habits. "

>

> I feel that way too, but they don't think they're being loud so

that

> makes me think it's us. Some cultures are louder than others, and

can

> handle more noise, too.

>

> I find I try to be extra quiet so as not to disturb people, but

it's

> only very recently that I asked myself why bother, they don't care

> and don't notice. In fact, some people get irritated because I

> startle them because I'm so quiet. Sometimes I walk toe-heel

instead

> of heel-toe so as to be quiet. It seems like an ideal to me to move

> through space as quietly as possible. Alot of people can't stand

> silence and need noise all the time, including when they go to

sleep.

> Ugh.

>

> I was with a group of people yesterday that all laughed so loud

that

> once my eardrums vibrated with the noise. Double Ugh to that.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" I feel that way too, but they don't think they're being loud so that

makes me think it's us. "

I often feel my son is talking way too loudly when he is right next

to me and often tell him he does not need to shout at me. Once or

twice a friend has pointed out that they think it is me that has over

sensitive hearing and that he is not shouting at all, but it

certainly feels like it to me - I often say to him, 'I am not deaf,

please don't shout at me'.

> >

> > " My feeling is that loud noises are really thinly veiled

> frustration,

> > anger, rage and/or aggression. If someone else feels scared by

what

> > they hear, what they are really picking up on are the vibes

> generated

> > by the people who made the noises. "

>

> I think that's true sometimes. Then there's adolescent boys who

like

> to make noise. But I think often it's our own reaction that is

angry

> and we displace it onto the noise. I feel like people are hurting

me

> with noise on purpose, though I know they're not. I do that with my

> dyspraxia, too. If I bump into something I feel like that inanimate

> object hit me! I can't seem to get rid of that feeling that

inanimate

> objects are attacking and hurting me.

> >

> > " Maybe it is just that I am Aspie, but I find myself jumping all

the

> > time at things other people do not jump at, such as doors being

> shut

> > too loudly, pots being rattled in the kitchen...

> >

> > I just wish that other people would realize how noisy they are or

> maybe

> > question their own habits. "

>

> I feel that way too, but they don't think they're being loud so

that

> makes me think it's us. Some cultures are louder than others, and

can

> handle more noise, too.

>

> I find I try to be extra quiet so as not to disturb people, but

it's

> only very recently that I asked myself why bother, they don't care

> and don't notice. In fact, some people get irritated because I

> startle them because I'm so quiet. Sometimes I walk toe-heel

instead

> of heel-toe so as to be quiet. It seems like an ideal to me to move

> through space as quietly as possible. Alot of people can't stand

> silence and need noise all the time, including when they go to

sleep.

> Ugh.

>

> I was with a group of people yesterday that all laughed so loud

that

> once my eardrums vibrated with the noise. Double Ugh to that.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like a good book :-)

> >

> " Somemtimes I think I should have been a monk. "

>

> I'm reading a sci fi book in which a colony on another planet is

> considered to have failed and everyone was to leave on shuttles.

One

> older woman who was tired of how her son and daughter-in-law

treated

> her and didn't want to leave her garden, hid and stayed behind. She

was

> so happy to be alone and have the colony to herself. The book goes

into

> what she's doing at the abandoned colony to improve it and tailor

it

> for herself. She's gardening and taking care of the animals that

were

> left behind. It's kind of a fantasy for someone who dreams of being

> alone and being able to change their surroundings to the way they

want

> them to be.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oooooooo I really enjoyed the 'Speed Of Dark' much more than 'The

Curious Incident Of the Dead Dog'.

> >

> >>

> > " What's the name of the book? It sounds like something I might be

> > inclined to pick up. "

>

> It's 'Remnant Population' by Moon. She has an autistic

son

> and has written a book where an autistic guy is the main character,

> called, 'Speed of Dark'. I haven't read that one yet, but look

forward

> to it. I like 'Remnant Population' and it's very 'readable'.

>

>

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you . A book you and others here might enjoy is

called " The Naked Sun " by Isaac Asimov. In it, a murder is committed

on a planet where people live alone and never come into physical

contact with one another. It is an impossible murder, yet it happens.

Can YOU figure out whodunnit?

Tom

Administrator

>

>>

> " What's the name of the book? It sounds like something I might be

> inclined to pick up. "

It's 'Remnant Population' by Moon. She has an autistic son

and has written a book where an autistic guy is the main character,

called, 'Speed of Dark'. I haven't read that one yet, but look forward

to it. I like 'Remnant Population' and it's very 'readable'.

[Guest guest]

I didn't think about the using firearms in those positions, just the

fact that they require a person with stealth and someone who is

observant. My uncle studied in a seminary and has a quiet,

thoughtful manner that makes him special. I didn't mean to offend

you Tom.

Kim

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> I don't think you were meant to be a monk, maybe a sniper or

security

> guard.

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> Kim

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[Guest guest]

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> " Thank you . A book you and others here might enjoy is

> called " The Naked Sun " by Isaac Asimov. In it, a murder is committed

> on a planet where people live alone and never come into physical

> contact with one another. It is an impossible murder, yet it happens.

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> Can YOU figure out whodunnit? "

Oh,sure, you're welcome. Always nice to share books with a fellow book

and sci-fi lover. I'll have to check out the one by dear departed

Isaac. (His 'The Stars Like Dust' was the first sci-fi book I read, at

age 10, which was my initiation into my life-long love of sci-fi, so he

has a special place in my heart, though he's not my favorite sci-fi

writer.)

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