Re: Only $750 for 14 Channel wireless EEG compatible with BioExplorer

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Jon,The headset is very cool--has been for years now--but it remains very limited because they have chosen their sites based on design rather than function (in my humble opinion).  Not a single midline location?!!!  No Cz or Fz or Pz or even Oz.  Not a single site in the incredibly powerful sensory-motor cortex (C3 / Cz / C4).?  What person who has ever trained a brain would have picked the sites that are included and left out the ones that are not?

As for the polymer electrodes--dry electrodes, which were for quite a while in the early days of the EPOC the main promise of the device--I'd have to actually see them working consistently before I'd believe in that promise (again...and again).  A lot of people have been working on that project for many years, and so far it remains a really cool promise that has never been kept.  Even so, if the saline system works conveniently, that's a pretty big step.

I've thought for some time about getting an EPOC and seeing what I could do with it, and certainly the ability to use with the TLC has been on the agenda.  But for now it's a very limited option.You might also want to read on the BE website their comments on implementation of the Emotiv:

" Added support for the Emotiv EPOC.  To use the EPOC with BioExplorer you must have a research headset and SDK.  The consumer and developer version headsets do not support raw EEG data access.  Configure BioExplorer by choosing Preferences from the BioExplorer menu, select the Emotiv tab, and then enter the path to your Emotiv SDK. " It's still a few steps (maybe pretty long ones) from being ready for prime time.Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...

http://www.brain-trainer.comUSA 305 433 3160BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc.

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:37 AM, user_jon <user1uj@...> wrote:

 

The Emotiv headset is a wireless headset with 14 channels. The current sensors are saline, but in a few months Emotiv plans to release a polymer based sensor which doesn't need any prepping even when going through hair!

It only costs $750 to get the research headset that works with BioExplorer (http://emotiv.com/store/sdk/eeg-bci/research-edition-sdk/)

Some specs on the Emotiv headset:

* Channel locations: AF3, F7, F3, FC5, T7, P7, O1, O2, P8, T8, FC6, F4, F8, AF4

* Battery life: 12 hours

* Built-in Impedance Measurement

Since this device will be easy to use and inexpensive, it may bring many more people into home-training.

Would it be possible to adapt the TLC assessment to run on it? Collecting 14 Channels simultaneously across the head could be used to run a mini-TLC assessment in 3 minutes. One drawback is the channels are not in the standard TLC assessment locations, so assessment and treatment protocols might need to be adapted.

A session could look like this:

1) Do a 3 minute 14 channel assessment to look for problem areas

2) Use Pete's new TLC designs to train down problem areas dynamically

3) Run TLC assessment again and see if the brain is moving in the right direction

Just brainstorming out loud. What are people's thoughts?