Re: Professionals can be such idiots

[Guest guest]

Stand firm, + upon all the info you know from all sources that we are

mentally coherent citizens who don't need third parties or best

interests.

[Guest guest]

Raven, I know you son is older, and has different needs than mine but

If I can help in any way Please e-mail me. People paid a wage to

understand our children are often poking in the dark while patting

their peers on the back. You know group peer mentality. There is no

better person to make recomdations for Cub than you. I have found that

teachers can tend to blame the child for being inconvienent. Paying

attention to your son isn't what they are really intrested in, that

would make way too much sense

[Guest guest]

Raven, I know you son is older, and has different needs than mine but

If I can help in any way Please e-mail me. People paid a wage to

understand our children are often poking in the dark while patting

their peers on the back. You know group peer mentality. There is no

better person to make recomdations for Cub than you. I have found that

teachers can tend to blame the child for being inconvienent. Paying

attention to your son isn't what they are really intrested in, that

would make way too much sense

[Guest guest]

Thank you, mimi. (((hugs)))

Raven

>

> Raven, I know you son is older, and has different needs than mine

but

> If I can help in any way Please e-mail me. People paid a wage to

> understand our children are often poking in the dark while patting

> their peers on the back. You know group peer mentality. There is

no

> better person to make recomdations for Cub than you. I have found

that

> teachers can tend to blame the child for being inconvienent. Paying

> attention to your son isn't what they are really intrested in, that

> would make way too much sense

>

[Guest guest]

just use your namesake Raven

please excuse my tangent, I am sometimes me

RAVEN MAGIC

Throughout time, Raven has carried the medicine of magic. This has

been true in many cultures across the planet. It is sacred, in the

medicine ways, to honor Raven as the bringer of magic. If the magic

is bad medicine, the carrier may be honored out of fear rather than

out of respect. Those who fear Raven may do so because they have been

dabbling in areas in which they had no knowledge, and a spell may

have backfired on them. Rather than analyzing the dark side of

sorcery, realize that you will fear Raven only if you need to learn

about your inner fears or self-created demons.

Raven magic is a powerful medicine that can give you the courage to

enter the darkness of the void, which is the home of all that is not

yet in form. The void is called the Great Mystery. Great Mystery

existed before all other things came into being. Great Spirit lives

inside the void and emerged from the Great Mystery. Raven is the

messenger of the void.

If Raven appears in your spread, you are about to experience a change

in consciousness. This may involve walking inside the Great Mystery

on another path at the edge of time. It would portend a signal

brought by the Raven that says, " You have earned the right to see

and experience a little more of life's magic. " Raven's color is the

color of the void -the black hole in space that hold's all of the

energy of the creative source.

In Native teachings the color black means many things, but it does

not mean evil. Black can mean the seeking of answers, the void, or

the road of the spiritual or non-physical. The blue-black of Raven

contains an iridescence that speaks of the magic of darkness, and a

changeability of form and shape that brings an awakening in the

process.

Raven is the guardian of ceremonial magic and in absentia healing. In

any healing circle, Raven is present. Raven guides the magic of

healing and the change in consciousness that will bring about a new

reality and dispel " disease " ' or illness. Raven brings in the new

state of wellness from the Void of Great Mystery and the field of

plenty.

Raven is the messenger that carries all energy flows of ceremonial

magic between the ceremony itself and the intended destination. For

instance, if a ceremony is being performed to send energy to a

disaster area where people need courage and strength, Raven would be

the courier for that energy flow. The intention could be to allow the

people of the devastated area to feel the concern and support of the

participants in the ceremony.

If you have chosen Raven, magic is in the air. Do not try to figure

it out, you cannot. It is the power of the unknown at work, and

something special is about to happen. The deeper mystery, however, is

how you will respond to the sparkling synchronicity of this

alchemical moment. Will you recognize it and use it to further

enhance your growth? Can you accept it as a gift from the Great

Spirit? Or will you limit the power of the great mystery by

explaining it away?

It may be time to call Raven as a courier to carry an intention, some

healing energy, a thought or a message. Raven is the patron of smoke

signals or spirit messages represented by smoke. So if you want to

send a message to the Blue Road of spirit, in order to contact the

Ancients, call Raven. Or, who knows, the ancients may be calling you.

Remember, this magic moment came from the void of darkness, and the

challenge is to bring it to light. In doing so you will have honored

the magician within.

The Medicine Cards

Written by Sams and Carlson

Published by Bear & Company Publishers

(Permission granted June, 1995).

http://www.druidry.org/obod/lore/animal/raven.html another site

[Guest guest]

Thank you, mimi. I follow the ways of my culture and Raven is my

totem animal. I have posted a few Abenaki stories and at one point I

believe I posted the story of When Raven Died. I will see if I have

and maybe I will repost it.

Raven

>

> just use your namesake Raven

> please excuse my tangent, I am sometimes me

> RAVEN MAGIC

[Guest guest]

Raven,

It makes my stomach churn to think that they would even suggest that

separating your son from you for a year and a half! This is absurd!

Stick to your guns, you know what's in his best interest more than any

outsider could, ever! If you need anything, you know how to reach me.

Kim

>

> Good Lord! This morning I was at a meeting between myself and

> a 'community team' allegedly gathered together to identify and

> implement services and programs for my child. When last we met 2

> weeks ago, THAT meeting became a meeting to set up another meeting

> since no one safe myself seemed to know what they were doing and

> what they could offer.

>

> Idiots.

>

> Today's major suggestion was that because I disagree with their

> abusive and destructive suggestion of sending my child away for 18

> months (are they NUTS? Send him away for what? For being the

> Aspling he is ... they want to make him NT and if that takes

> inappropriate 24/7 strategies and medicating my child until he is a

> mindless and numbed robot that's what they believe is best for him),

> the cry became, " We believe that Cub needs an independent third

> party to advocate for him and make decisions that are in his best

> interest. "

>

> Idiots.

>

> THIS is the world WE live in ... this self-righteous sanctimonious

> world of NTs who seek to CURE us because they are not able to

> UNDERSTAND us and ACCEPT us as we are made.

>

> At this point, the lot of them are no longer involved since they are

> wasting my time, patting each other on the back, not providing

> services or programs, and doing the politically correct dance. I am

> severely annoyed at the moment.

>

> Idiots.

>

> I may not post much in the next few days as I re-centre myself and

> identify a plan of forward movement for my child.

>

> Raven

>

[Guest guest]

Kim wrote: " It makes my stomach churn to think that they would even

suggest that separating your son from you for a year and a half!

This is absurd! Stick to your guns, you know what's in his best

interest more than any outsider could, ever! If you need anything,

you know how to reach me. "

Thank you, Kim. I have received some of the 'clinical reports'

earlier today and I am happy to say that retaining legal counsel

earlier this week was the smartest move I have ever made.

Among the misinformation in the files are the following (the

information in brackets are the facts contrary to the 'comments' in

the reports).

1. Cub has no individuation (if there's anyone who is an

individual, it is Cub and anyone who meets him will absolutely and

definitely confirm this as truth);

2. Cub has no religious or spiritual ties (Cub chose to become a

Catholic when he was 7 years old, and received the sacraments of

baptism at 9, reconciliation at 10 and would have received first

communion this past summer had things gone according to plan. I am

not a Catholic however I have supported his spiritual journey and

ensured that he has appropriate Catholic education and guidance.

This also goes to the heart of whether Cub has individuation. If

he's a Catholic by choice and I am not, he sees himself as an

individual as does his mother);

3. Cub has not cultural ties (As most everyone here knows I speak

and live my Aboriginal culture and share Aboriginal culture and

white man culture with my child so he does, indeed, have cultural

ties.);

4. Cub, according to the psychologist, in no way has an IQ anywhere

near 169 because he could not or refused to complete tests -- tests

that he saw no use for I might add -- and as such, they determined

he was not intellectually capable (This is a child who, when read a

complete chapter on C++ programming language summed up the entire

chapter in one paragraph, succinctly and accurately, and who,

according to computer experts who own their own businesses as well

as the Dean of Computer Sciences at the local University, knows his

stuff and *is* in their opinion, clearly operating at a genius

level.);

5. Cub allegedly lost a DOG and his grandfather last Fall (Fact is,

he lost his goldfish in September, his CAT in October and his

grandfather in November. How do you get this sort of information

wrong when it is clearly articulated on a regular basis by the

patient?).

There's lots more but you get the picture here.

Mixed in with this are lies or omissions of inappropriate actions

taken by the staff while he was hospitalized.

They speak of how I interfere with his normal development by

objecting to the fact that he was taught by staff how to play

poker. He had just turned 11 two weeks earlier and he had learned,

not only how to play poker, but how to count cards. He also was

taught how to play craps. You bet I am going to object loudly to a

CHILD being purposely taught how to gamble when this goes against my

ethics and morals.

They speak of how his language is not unlike his mother insofar as

his vocabulary. If I spoke Hungarian in the home, I would expect

that my child would know the occasional word of Hungarian and might,

if so moved, actually be fluent in Hungarian. I fail to see how

this is a bad thing but according to these NT professionals, it's a

terrible thing! Oh the shame of it all, to use appropriate

vocabulary instead of trash talk, slang and language with which he

feels uncomfortable. Fershizzle!

And then these experts refer to a medical report from some general

practitioner in a province we haven't lived in for over 4 years,

said general practitioner identified in their report as a

psychiatrist having written a psychiatric report. I telephone the

psychiatrist out west who dealt with Cub from the time they started

testing him at age 3 and asked her if she recognized the doctor's

name. SHE is the one who told me he is a general practitioner and

not a psychiatrist and she has no knowledge of a letter from him

regarding Cub.

I can tell you for a fact that this general practitioner alleged to

be a psychiatrist has NEVER seen Cub.

Idiots ...

In any case, there is a clear and present danger that Kinark armed

with this incorrect documents is going to try and take over

guardianship of my child. I, in return, have already had a lawyer

fire off a letter informing Kinark that they are not part of the

treatment team and that any attempts to interfere with my lawful

rights as a parent will be dealt with in a court of law.

I am sooooooooooooooooooooo NOT in a good mood right now.

Raven

[Guest guest]

Dear Raven,

I am so sorry that they are doing this to you and your son. What could they be

thinking???

It feels like a power play to me - where you and your son are being pushed

around.

I am holding you in my thoughts and prayers!

Deborah

> >

> > Good Lord! This morning I was at a meeting between myself and

> > a 'community team' allegedly gathered together to identify and

> > implement services and programs for my child. When last we met 2

> > weeks ago, THAT meeting became a meeting to set up another meeting

> > since no one safe myself seemed to know what they were doing and

> > what they could offer.

> >

> > Idiots.

> >

> > Today's major suggestion was that because I disagree with their

> > abusive and destructive suggestion of sending my child away for 18

> > months (are they NUTS? Send him away for what? For being the

> > Aspling he is ... they want to make him NT and if that takes

> > inappropriate 24/7 strategies and medicating my child until he is a

> > mindless and numbed robot that's what they believe is best for him),

> > the cry became, " We believe that Cub needs an independent third

> > party to advocate for him and make decisions that are in his best

> > interest. "

> >

> > Idiots.

> >

> > THIS is the world WE live in ... this self-righteous sanctimonious

> > world of NTs who seek to CURE us because they are not able to

> > UNDERSTAND us and ACCEPT us as we are made.

> >

> > At this point, the lot of them are no longer involved since they are

> > wasting my time, patting each other on the back, not providing

> > services or programs, and doing the politically correct dance. I am

> > severely annoyed at the moment.

> >

> > Idiots.

> >

> > I may not post much in the next few days as I re-centre myself and

> > identify a plan of forward movement for my child.

> >

> > Raven

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Raven,

You have a good heart. Of course you do not understand the motives of others

that do

not come from that place.

I only understand it " intellectually. " For years, practiicing as a

professional, I could not

understand why people were in the people professions if they didn't want to help

people. I

worked long hours and did many hours in pro-bono work - my maternal grandfather

had

been a lawyer who spent most of his time helping people - and my maternal

grandmother

worked hours, unpaid, to help people find training, work, employment - many of

my

cousins are the same, working as teachers and/or unpaid volunteers in community

and

church to help others . .

What I have come to find is that many people just don't have what I sense to be

the

innocent good will that you possess. No matter how I misunderstood how others

could

not help - they cannot understand how we care.

And power is like a drug. It can become like an addiction. And it is so much

in our culture

that we don't realize it is going on. Many people working in the " helping

professions "

don't care - some through inner inability not to care, some through inadequate

training

and emphasis on " Humane " values - and some from sheer burnout because " human

helping professsions " are hard . . .

We just can't understand them - we have to give them a chance - but if they are

doing bad

behavior - we then have to do what you say . . . " perservere " . . . it is too

bad, but it is so.

I am glad that you can reach out to others, here, because it does help, I find,

to be able to

share when so many in our day to day world just don't " get " what we are going

through.

I am very sad that you and your son are struggling with this. On a good day we

have

enough to do with the routines and extra steps - at least for me - that having

AS in a

bigger, NT, world necessitates - but to have this is just . . .wrong.

I am keeping you and your son in my thoughts and prayers.

Deborah

> >

> > Dear Raven,

> >

> > I am so sorry that they are doing this to you and your son. What

> could they be thinking???

> >

> > It feels like a power play to me - where you and your son are being

> pushed around.

> >

> > I am holding you in my thoughts and prayers!

> >

> > Deborah

>

[Guest guest]

Tom wrote: " ... <snip> ... I DID have an odd occurence two weeks

ago or so though. I went into one of my old jobs and said hello to

everyone. One of the folks there whom I used to work with wanted me

to AUTOGRAPH a copy of the CD she bought. I was so flummoxed that I

did not know what to write for a second. I did it for her, but oddly

enough, I felt cheapened somehow, as if my name and my person had

become some sort of commodity that might be valuable someday. The

experience humbled me, and I expect this humbleness will stay with

me even after the royalty checks come in. "

I have worked on stage and in studio with Juno award winning artists

and Felix award winning artists. I have been Musical Director for a

touring Aboriginal artist. Many of my colleagues are well-known

film composers and recording artists themselves. This does not

define who I am. I am not a commodity to be bought and sold and

traded.

What defines who I am, like you Tom, is what I choose to do with my

life and how I choose to have it affect others. And, truth be told,

in good times and in bad times, no one can really tell the

difference because I am not known for lavish and foolish excesses at

any point in time.

Some people call what you do philanthropy or being altruistic. I

say it's just doing the right thing.

Raven