Re: Prehistoric Aspies

[Guest guest]

I am certain they were great at foraging for food but not so good

with attracting and/or keeping mates.

Caveman AS: You are mine.

Cavewoman NT: Your what?

Caveman AS: Just be quiet, woman. You are mine.

Cavewoman NT: I heard that. Your what?

Caveman AS: Mine. You know ... MINE!

Cavewoman NT: Yes, I heard that. Your what?

Caveman AS bonks woman on the head and leaves her there instead of

taking her back to cave

OR

Caveman AS: You are mine.

Cavewoman AS: Since when?

Caveman AS: Since I decided so.

Cavewoman AS: And you think you can tell me what to do? That isn't

logical.

Caveman AS: It is illogical that you would reject me as a mate.

Cavewoman AS: It is illogical that you would think I am rejecting

you.

Caveman AS: You asked since when you are mine.

Cavewoman AS: I need a start date.

Caveman AS bonks self on head as he realizes Cavewoman AS may be too

much work for him.

Mind you, that's just my over-active imagination kicking in and it

may not have been like that at all.

Raven

[Guest guest]

Before I got the AS Diagnosis, I was told about a condition called Hyperattentive Disorder. That condition had features like being very aware and even distracted by movement and sounds around you but still being able to focus in on something that interested you. The doctor told me the theory was that this was an expression of the "super hunter" genes. This would make a hunter more likely to spot game and probably react faster once it was spotted, or to react to a threat. Even though I usually move like most people, my reactions can be very quickly. In fact, there have been a few cases where I move so quickly, like in a lunge or a strike from close range, that it was faster than people could really follow with their eyes. That's been rare though because that has to be completely instinctive: if I stop to think about the movement, it slows down and gets clunky, but just letting it go its very fast, and almost always I have the "safety" on.

Aspies may have had a leg up in that regard, but hunting was a group activity. That required communication and group skills which may have hindered them. However, they probably would have made good scouts and trackers out in front of the rest. It is also possible that that hunting group was a dynamic they could master, especially if they had always been doing it.

[Guest guest]

It's the same with me. But whenever I move that fast, I scare people.

Usually what will happen is that someone will drop something and

then I will reach for it and catch it. I usually do this so fast my

hand is a blur. It's the same thing if i try to catch a fly or

insect that is flying around.

I can also turn 180 degrees on my feet as quick as lightning if I

have to.

Tom

Administrator

Even though I usually move like most people, my reactions can be

very quickly. In fact, there have been a few cases where I move so

quickly, like in a lunge or a strike from close range, that it was

faster than people could really follow with their eyes.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/22/2006 4:07:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

It's the same with me. But whenever I move that fast, I scare people.Usually what will happen is that someone will drop something and then I will reach for it and catch it. I usually do this so fast my hand is a blur. It's the same thing if i try to catch a fly or insect that is flying around. I can also turn 180 degrees on my feet as quick as lightning if I have to.TomAdministrator

This is exactly the way I am. I have knocked things off of shelves and caught them much to the surprise of people watching. I can also catch mosquitos and flies out of the air. Turning fast is also something I can do, as well as stopping on a dime or dodging around people.

Like I said though, it had to be reflexive. If I stop to think about it, then it is slower and clumsy. I also keep in on safety so I don't jump at thing or start to strike things that surprise me.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/22/2006 4:07:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

It's the same with me. But whenever I move that fast, I scare people.Usually what will happen is that someone will drop something and then I will reach for it and catch it. I usually do this so fast my hand is a blur. It's the same thing if i try to catch a fly or insect that is flying around. I can also turn 180 degrees on my feet as quick as lightning if I have to.TomAdministrator

This is exactly the way I am. I have knocked things off of shelves and caught them much to the surprise of people watching. I can also catch mosquitos and flies out of the air. Turning fast is also something I can do, as well as stopping on a dime or dodging around people.

Like I said though, it had to be reflexive. If I stop to think about it, then it is slower and clumsy. I also keep in on safety so I don't jump at thing or start to strike things that surprise me.

[Guest guest]

RE Prehistoric Aspies, Ekblad and- Speaking of prehistory, hunting as a selection pressure on human characteristics.... and so on... I find Leif Ekblad's site pretty interesting... in particular click on "the neanderthal theory" on the left column at- http://www.rdos.net/eng/ Ekblad has been something of a lone voice in the wilderness on the neanderthal theory in academics for quite some time now. Recent developments are beginning to make it seem more and more plausible, but (personal opinion- and I am not an expert here) it's still something of a long shot- a fun and thought-provoking one. I keep meaning to give his extensive site a thorough reading but never get around to it. Hephenvironmental1st2003

<no_reply > wrote: It's the same with me. But whenever I move that fast, I scare people.Usually what will happen is that someone will drop something and then I will reach for it and catch it. I usually do this so fast my hand is a blur. It's the same thing if i try to catch a fly or insect that is flying around. I can also turn 180 degrees on my feet as quick as lightning if I have to.TomAdministratorEven though I usually move like most people, my reactions can be very quickly. In fact, there have been a few cases where I move so quickly, like in a lunge or a strike from close range, that it was faster than people could really follow with their eyes. Hephaestus Clubfoothttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestushttp://www.pantheon.org/articles/h/hephaestus.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabeiroi

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[Guest guest]

Leif is a member here. I know him through Inger, my friend and

erstwhile moderator who worked with Leif to set up the Aspie Quiz. I

am surprised Leif has not joined in this discussion. He may be busy

at the moment though.

Tom

Administrator

Re: Re: Prehistoric Aspies

RE Prehistoric Aspies, Ekblad and-

Speaking of prehistory, hunting as a selection pressure on human

characteristics.... and so on... I find Leif Ekblad's site pretty

interesting... in particular click on " the neanderthal theory " on

the left column at-

http://www.rdos.net/eng/

Ekblad has been something of a lone voice in the wilderness on

the neanderthal theory in academics for quite some time now. Recent

developments are beginning to make it seem more and more plausible,

but (personal opinion- and I am not an expert here) it's still

something of a long shot- a fun and thought-provoking one. I keep

meaning to give his extensive site a thorough reading but never get

around to it.

Heph

[Guest guest]

Leif is a member here. I know him through Inger, my friend and

erstwhile moderator who worked with Leif to set up the Aspie Quiz. I

am surprised Leif has not joined in this discussion. He may be busy

at the moment though.

Tom

Administrator

Re: Re: Prehistoric Aspies

RE Prehistoric Aspies, Ekblad and-

Speaking of prehistory, hunting as a selection pressure on human

characteristics.... and so on... I find Leif Ekblad's site pretty

interesting... in particular click on " the neanderthal theory " on

the left column at-

http://www.rdos.net/eng/

Ekblad has been something of a lone voice in the wilderness on

the neanderthal theory in academics for quite some time now. Recent

developments are beginning to make it seem more and more plausible,

but (personal opinion- and I am not an expert here) it's still

something of a long shot- a fun and thought-provoking one. I keep

meaning to give his extensive site a thorough reading but never get

around to it.

Heph

[Guest guest]

It is mostly reflective with me, but I CAN move fast when I need to.

This would probably alarm people, who think my movements are generally

slow and deliberate.

Tom

Administrator

" Like I said though, it had to be reflexive. If I stop to think about

it, then it is slower and clumsy. I also keep in on safety so I don't

jump at thing or start to strike things that surprise me.

" "

[Guest guest]

>

> Even though I usually move like most people, my reactions can be

> very quickly. In fact, there have been a few cases where I move so

> quickly, like in a lunge or a strike from close range, that it was

> faster than people could really follow with their eyes.

>

writes:

Me too! I often end up lunging for something that is falling and the

next thing I know I'm standing up or sitting up straight with the

item in my hand, surprised. It's like being quicker than gravity,

it's a weird feeling.

As long as something is quick I can do it. If it's too slow or takes

thought, the ability is gone. When I was a teenager and worked at

Mcs I was able to cook all the orders by myself between 8:00

and 9:00 am, the businest hour. This was before biscuits were on the

menu and I'm normally not a good multi-tasker but because it was

quick some part of my brain took over and just did it. The manager

looked at me like I was a freak and asked if I realized what I had

done by myself during the busiest hour.

I respond quicker mentally, too. In a movie theater, I'm the first to

laugh at a joke and it feels like a great lag time for the others to

respond.

I get really annoyed driving, because I feel like people react way

too slowly to situations.

It's like being out of step with others, faster, and like having to

wait for your baby brother or sister all the time. Very frustrating.

[Guest guest]

" As long as something is quick I can do it. If it's too slow or takes

thought, the ability is gone. When I was a teenager and worked at

Mcs I was able to cook all the orders by myself between 8:00

and 9:00 am, the businest hour. This was before biscuits were on the

menu and I'm normally not a good multi-tasker but because it was

quick some part of my brain took over and just did it. The manager

looked at me like I was a freak and asked if I realized what I had

done by myself during the busiest hour. "

I used to work in a trophy shop when I was a kid and used to crank

out the finish product faster than the other kids. (The trophies are

assembled by hand, not by machine).

" I respond quicker mentally, too. In a movie theater, I'm the first

to laugh at a joke and it feels like a great lag time for the others

to respond. "

Me too, and the other thing is, I can see where a film is headed,

and so I may begin to weep, let's say, when I suspect a character is

going to get killed off long before he or she does.

" I get really annoyed driving, because I feel like people react way

too slowly to situations. "

There are so many distractions that I find it hard to drive,

especially when I am with another person. Even so, I get annoyed

that other people seem to take a long time to respond to traffic

situations. During these times I tend to think of them as apes in

cars.

Tom

Administrator

[Guest guest]

" As long as something is quick I can do it. If it's too slow or takes

thought, the ability is gone. When I was a teenager and worked at

Mcs I was able to cook all the orders by myself between 8:00

and 9:00 am, the businest hour. This was before biscuits were on the

menu and I'm normally not a good multi-tasker but because it was

quick some part of my brain took over and just did it. The manager

looked at me like I was a freak and asked if I realized what I had

done by myself during the busiest hour. "

I used to work in a trophy shop when I was a kid and used to crank

out the finish product faster than the other kids. (The trophies are

assembled by hand, not by machine).

" I respond quicker mentally, too. In a movie theater, I'm the first

to laugh at a joke and it feels like a great lag time for the others

to respond. "

Me too, and the other thing is, I can see where a film is headed,

and so I may begin to weep, let's say, when I suspect a character is

going to get killed off long before he or she does.

" I get really annoyed driving, because I feel like people react way

too slowly to situations. "

There are so many distractions that I find it hard to drive,

especially when I am with another person. Even so, I get annoyed

that other people seem to take a long time to respond to traffic

situations. During these times I tend to think of them as apes in

cars.

Tom

Administrator

[Guest guest]

"I used to work in a trophy shop when I was a kid and used to crank out the finish product faster than the other kids. (The trophies are assembled by hand, not by machine)."

I was like this as well. I could put things together very quickly once I got the hang of it.

"I respond quicker mentally, too. In a movie theater, I'm the first to laugh at a joke and it feels like a great lag time for the others to respond.""Me too, and the other thing is, I can see where a film is headed, and so I may begin to weep, let's say, when I suspect a character is going to get killed off long before he or she does."

I've noticed that my perception speed with movies tends to be faster, meaning that the action seems to run a bit slower for me than it does for others, at least the first time I see the movie. After seeing a movie once, however, it seems to go faster, or what it must look like to everyone else the first time.

Something else along this line. Sometimes I can see bird's wings flapping when they fly. Other times I see them as a wavy blur, like the bird flying along with this kind of elongated undulation on both sides. I've also surprised people by being able to recall details just from a quick glance, like identifying the bird that crashed into the window when all the others noticed was a thump.

"There are so many distractions that I find it hard to drive, especially when I am with another person. Even so, I get annoyed that other people seem to take a long time to respond to traffic situations. During these times I tend to think of them as apes in cars."

This is why I don't like to drive. There are just so many things to keep track of and so many people drive so stupidly. I've seen people do incredible things just to get around a traffic light or do reckless things just to get that extra few seconds ahead.

[Guest guest]

You said...

" Something else along this line. Sometimes I can see bird's wings

flapping when they fly. Other times I see them as a wavy blur, like

the bird flying along with this kind of elongated undulation on both

sides. I've also surprised people by being able to recall details

just from a quick glance, like identifying the bird that crashed

into the window when all the others noticed was a thump. "

I said...

" There are so many distractions that I find it hard to drive,

especially when I am with another person. Even so, I get annoyed

that other people seem to take a long time to respond to traffic

situations. During these times I tend to think of them as apes in

cars. "

And now I say...

This brings up an interesting remembrance about an annoying

distraction...my sister.

I was driving up to Wisconsin with my sister and along comes this

bird and flies into the windshield. Then it spiraled off into the

gravel on the side of the road where it presumably died. (I could

not go back to check. I was on the expressway with cars behind me

and no place to turn around).

Just as I said " That was a kestral " my sister, who had been looking

directly at the bird when it hit the windshield asked " What was

that? Did something hit the windshield? "

I guess maybe I notice EVERYTHING while I drive, which is why I have

trouble driving.

Tom

Administrator