Dyslexia and language problems and peaks in language area histograms

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Hi Folks,

I have a client, 23yo male, with ADHD and dyslexia, impulsivity, sleeping

problems, some addiction (marijuana, alcohol) in the past. He has problems with

writing words correctly but is able to read well enough and has clearly

constructed sufficient compensatory mechanisms to get him through a university

degree.

His assessment showed hot temporals and left/right reversals, both of which

we've been working on and he feels calmer, much happier, and sleeps better (less

badly). He has fairly high T/B EO and Tsk most places (around 2.5) but T/B of 7

at F3 and F4 and 3 at Fz on task (but lots of eyeblinks on the digit repetition

task). Lots of low freqs, little mid freqs everywhere except P3/P4/Oz. Alpha is

quite low EC and goes up on task - doesn't block.

What I'm mainly wondering about though is the pattern in the language areas. He

has large high-alpha peaks on task parietally, temporally and centrally and

12-15Hz is high temporally too. His A/T is 1.5 at P3 and P4. My first thought

was to squash maybe 2-15Hz but it also occurred to me that these might be the

way he's compensating for dyslexia - this is as fast as he's got his language

areas to work - and I don't want to try to train that away (if that's indeed

possible). With the TLC I can't see what the coherence between the back and

front of the brain looks like - is Wernicke talking to Broca?

Do you have any comments on assessment patterns of people with similar language

problems and what training you've done? And are there standard values for

Wernicke/Broca (and right side too) coherences so that I could do an assessment

of that?

I have another client, 44yo male, with ADHD/language probs with a similar peak

in the language areas, this time centred on the 15-19Hz bin but with the same

overall shape. So I wonder if this is a feature.

Many thanks for any help.

[Guest guest]

Dear Gillian,After reading a bunch of books related to how the brain read, I came to the conclusion that you may consider training the following sites for dyslexia:* T3-F7 & T4-F8* T3-T5 & T4-T6* T3-P3 & T4-P4* F7/A1/g/F8/A2 - Theta & /or Alpha coherence up (if necessary based on TLC assessment results). Same for T5/A1/g/T6/A2As you can tell, all those site areas are related to visual, reading and speech abilities.I've tried these in several cases with a lot of success. I don't like to say that they got "cure" but their reading skills improved dramatically.Hope this helps, JRFrom: Gillian <gillian.m.hayes@...> Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 5:57:28 PMSubject: Dyslexia and language problems and peaks in language area histograms

Hi Folks,

I have a client, 23yo male, with ADHD and dyslexia, impulsivity, sleeping problems, some addiction (marijuana, alcohol) in the past. He has problems with writing words correctly but is able to read well enough and has clearly constructed sufficient compensatory mechanisms to get him through a university degree.

His assessment showed hot temporals and left/right reversals, both of which we've been working on and he feels calmer, much happier, and sleeps better (less badly). He has fairly high T/B EO and Tsk most places (around 2.5) but T/B of 7 at F3 and F4 and 3 at Fz on task (but lots of eyeblinks on the digit repetition task). Lots of low freqs, little mid freqs everywhere except P3/P4/Oz. Alpha is quite low EC and goes up on task - doesn't block.

What I'm mainly wondering about though is the pattern in the language areas. He has large high-alpha peaks on task parietally, temporally and centrally and 12-15Hz is high temporally too. His A/T is 1.5 at P3 and P4. My first thought was to squash maybe 2-15Hz but it also occurred to me that these might be the way he's compensating for dyslexia - this is as fast as he's got his language areas to work - and I don't want to try to train that away (if that's indeed possible). With the TLC I can't see what the coherence between the back and front of the brain looks like - is Wernicke talking to Broca?

Do you have any comments on assessment patterns of people with similar language problems and what training you've done? And are there standard values for Wernicke/Broca (and right side too) coherences so that I could do an assessment of that?

I have another client, 44yo male, with ADHD/language probs with a similar peak in the language areas, this time centred on the 15-19Hz bin but with the same overall shape. So I wonder if this is a feature.

Many thanks for any help.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tamera and for your useful comments. I've been in contact with the

local Fast ForWord guy (actually in Ireland) recently and will find out what he

thinks about it being used with adults.

, those are bipolar placings, right? I seem to remember you use something

similar with theta/beta ratio training. What would be the reward/inhibit

frequencies you use in those cases?

Thanks again,

Gillian

Gillian PhD

Edinburgh Neurofeedback www.edinburghneurofeedback.co.uk