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Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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You are crazy!!

I'm not sure if could cause some dormant remains of the virus to

mutate or if it would kill any remnants off.

I also don't know what one week of treatment would do with other

viruses in you.

Anyway can't say that I haven't thought about taking some leftover

Ribaviron before I get tested for SVR in August.

Lee

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> Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load

a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment

again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want

the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good

results.

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> I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.

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> Anyone heard of this before ?

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> Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.

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> Ed

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I have never heard of anyone doing just one week to get good results . The treatment either works or it doesn't . Stopping then starting again can cause the virus to mutate and accelerate it's rate of damage . I know first hand Ed , don't do it .

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Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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Thanks ---what you say sounds logical--I am just stuck in my mind, kinnda a warped reality.elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: I have never heard of anyone doing just one week to get good results . The treatment either works or it doesn't . Stopping then starting again can cause the virus to mutate and accelerate it's rate of damage . I know first hand Ed , don't do it . Re: Post treatment/Treatment Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head

is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.

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Thanks ---what you say sounds logical--I am just stuck in my mind, kinnda a warped reality.elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: I have never heard of anyone doing just one week to get good results . The treatment either works or it doesn't . Stopping then starting again can cause the virus to mutate and accelerate it's rate of damage . I know first hand Ed , don't do it . Re: Post treatment/Treatment Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head

is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.

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Your welcome Ed , its easy to get sucked into that kind of thinking . You made it through treatment don't endanger that SVR because of fear .

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Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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Your welcome Ed , its easy to get sucked into that kind of thinking . You made it through treatment don't endanger that SVR because of fear .

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Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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Thats scary Liz,, WHY WOULD anyone do that?? One week 'could' cause the virus to mutate,, I think thats very very dangerous to do! yep,, Ed,, DONT DO IT!elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: I have never heard of anyone doing just one week to get good results . The treatment either works or it doesn't . Stopping then starting again can cause the virus to mutate and accelerate it's rate of damage . I know first hand Ed , don't do it . Re: Post treatment/Treatment Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to

get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Jackie

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Lee,, that is very very dangerous to do,, please do not do left over Riba after being off for a while, you very well could cause any remaining virus to mutate,, Lee <leecuate@...> wrote: You are crazy!! I'm not sure if could cause some dormant remains of the virus to mutate or if it would kill any remnants off.I also don't know what one week of treatment would do with other viruses in you.Anyway can't say that I haven't thought about taking some leftover Ribaviron before I get tested for SVR in

August.Lee>> > Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.> > I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.> > Anyone heard of this before ?> > Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.> > Ed> > > ---------------------------------> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.>Jackie

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EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc@...> wrote: Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my

head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Jackie

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I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may

compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Jackie

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The virus is at the atomic level in your cells and will always be there , its just not active . RNA = Ribonucleic acid

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I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote:

EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,, Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc@...> wrote: I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to

say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Jackie No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Jackie

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Did you know the even found the traces of hep c in the ear wax of cleared patients lol

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ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,,

Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote:

EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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no,, that I did not know... very interesting tho,, but yuk,, lolelizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Did you know the even found the traces of hep c in the ear wax of cleared patients lol Re: Post treatment/Treatment ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,, Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Jackie No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Jackie Jackie

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Lmaon ... luv ya sweety ! Oh my doc called and wanted me to go right away for another biopsy . I put them off til next Tuesday , I am hoping the progression isn't as bad as I think it is .

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ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,,

Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote:

EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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Well ya know me , I will have em before the doc does lol I will hound them until I get them from the radiologist ...usually within a wk .

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ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,,

Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote:

EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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Well ya know me , I will have em before the doc does lol I will hound them until I get them from the radiologist ...usually within a wk .

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ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,,

Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote:

EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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you are like me,, poor sheena, she cant get the results of her recent PCR,, her gi refuses to tell her!!! can you imagine!elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Well ya know me , I will have em before the doc does lol I will hound them until I get them from the radiologist ...usually within a wk . Re: Post

treatment/Treatment ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,, Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt

the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus

to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Jackie No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Jackie Jackie Jackie Jackie

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you are like me,, poor sheena, she cant get the results of her recent PCR,, her gi refuses to tell her!!! can you imagine!elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Well ya know me , I will have em before the doc does lol I will hound them until I get them from the radiologist ...usually within a wk . Re: Post

treatment/Treatment ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,, Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt

the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus

to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Jackie No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Jackie Jackie Jackie Jackie

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She needs to fill out a release of information , to them to release information to her . And if they dont release it them she can contact the AMA ...

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ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,,

Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote:

EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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she said he wont see her and wont tell her,, he refused,, or so she said,,, she is so busy taking care of her husband that she can't go down there to get it or to demand that he tell her,, I'd be soooo mad!elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: She needs to fill out a release of information , to them to release information to her . And if they dont release it them she can contact the AMA ... Re: Post treatment/Treatment ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,, Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Jackie No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Jackie Jackie Jackie Jackie Jackie

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ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,,

Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote:

EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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I know that hon,, its HER DOC who refuses to tell her the results.. and her husband is too sick for her to leave the house at this point to go and get them.. Her doc is refusing to give her procit and has already lowered her Riba dose, he is doing all the things that he said he wouldnt do when she talked with him before she started treatment when she was just in the considering it.so he is doing all the things he said he wouldnt do and now wont give her the results of her tests.... and she cannot get another doc.. I think she is going to quit tx if she is not clear by now because he refuses to do anything that he'd promised her...elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: The new HIPPA laws make telephone information impossible . She has to go to the facility itself , then as long as she can prove who she is they have to give them to her Re: Post treatment/Treatment ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,, Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: I think that Lee said

that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote: Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Jackie No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Jackie Jackie Jackie Jackie Jackie Jackie

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Oh man poor Sheena , I forget that here in Nevada we go straight to the lab if we want results and blood drawn . In Cali you get blood work done at the doc's office . I do know that Quest is a major lab there in Ca and if she can get to the lab they will give the results . That way she doesnt have to wait for the doc for the results . But it sounds like her doc is dropping the ball so to speak .

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ed, even if you dont show a viral load, it can and does hide in scar tissue and elsewhere in the body,, they have found on autopsy that even those who test undetectible have viron in their body, they are just not active ,, but doing what you are doing may in fact activate them,,

Remember, they can only check down to 2-5 iu/ml, so what happens if your level is at 1.5 iu/ml???? its still there,,,edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

I think that Lee said that I must enjoy feeling sick, and sad to say, that is kinda true. I started tx while in a mid life crisis and felt safe not having deal with that while on tx. After tx, it is time to face it again.I wish I understood the biology better, I mean, doesnt the virus mutate anyway, ie RNA virus ? And if I am clear, then there is nothing to mutate anyway ?Thanks all for being a sounding board,Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote:

EDWARD,, that is INSANE and may compromise your 'undetectibility'....... this will NOT help calm your fears,, PLEASE,, if you havent actually started this,, DO NOT... edward wrangler <ewranglerasc > wrote:

Ok, I finished 9 months of treatment, then still at zero viral load a month after treatment--hurray, but now i am taking the treatment again, just for a week. I have my next labs in August and dont want the virus to come back, so am doining a weeks worth to get good results.I know my head is crazy, but this will help so I dont live in fear.Anyone heard of this before ?Yes, I am a nutcase--but I am working on that.Ed

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