Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 If you can stand just a tad more tongue in cheek sarcasm....the article appears to be the sum total of their advancement for the last 50 years. Amazing when one thinks of all the people that have been compromised, poisoned killed along the way to accumulate this wealth of invaluable information! Christelti@... wrote: Now there is a news flash that none of us ever knew about...LOL Sorry but I could not help the sarcasm Christel News from Hopkins Hospital AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY (TRY THE KEY WORD) AND ELIMINATE CANCER, JOHN HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY . Cancer Update from Hopkins: Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I met a local man a few years ago who gave a lecture in sponsored by the local health food store. He was diagnosed with a malignant tumor in his throat. Went to 's Hopkin's to have the tumor removed and refused to go for tradtional chemo and radiation and instead did his research and went to Dr. Donsbach's old place, Hospital Santa for a few weeks and did there oxygen therapy protocols. He was cancer-free for well over seven years and had gone back to JH to have them check him out. At furst they were astonished because they told him w/o chemo he'd die. After they got over the surprise they decided it was not from the oxygen protocols but just a spontaneous remission. Pretty sad that they couldn't admit what was right in front of them. Pretty great though that he beat the cancer w/o chemo. Best to all, Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...> wrote: If you can stand just a tad more tongue in cheek sarcasm....the article appears to be the sum total of their advancement for the last 50 years. Amazing when one thinks of all the people that have been compromised, poisoned killed along the way to accumulate this wealth of invaluable information! Recent Activity 2 New Members Visit Your Group Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. Healthy Eating on A place for parents to share their ideas. Moderator Central Connecting a world of moderators. . __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 When my father got cured from lung cancer, many years ago, without an operation, chemo or radiation, just with proper food and foodsupplements, I went back to the hospital (Academisch Ziekenhuis Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam) as well to discuss the issue. There we had been told 'he should have the operation, he is still young, he still has a chance' as if this was the only option. When they saw that on the last X-ray, the spot on the left lung - originally the size of a big grape fruit - had disappeared entirely, the conclusion was . 'We must have been mistaken. It can't have been a cancer in the first place'. DCH Re: A must read from Hopkins Hospital....;o) I met a local man a few years ago who gave a lecture in sponsored by the local health food store. He was diagnosed with a malignant tumor in his throat. Went to 's Hopkin's to have the tumor removed and refused to go for tradtional chemo and radiation and instead did his research and went to Dr. Donsbach's old place, Hospital Santa for a few weeks and did there oxygen therapy protocols. He was cancer-free for well over seven years and had gone back to JH to have them check him out. At furst they were astonished because they told him w/o chemo he'd die. After they got over the surprise they decided it was not from the oxygen protocols but just a spontaneous remission. Pretty sad that they couldn't admit what was right in front of them. Pretty great though that he beat the cancer w/o chemo. Best to all, Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...> wrote: If you can stand just a tad more tongue in cheek sarcasm....the article appears to be the sum total of their advancement for the last 50 years. Amazing when one thinks of all the people that have been compromised, poisoned killed along the way to accumulate this wealth of invaluable information! Recent Activity 2 New Members Visit Your Group Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. Healthy Eating on A place for parents to share their ideas. Moderator Central Connecting a world of moderators. . __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Many many moons ago I had the good fortune to have a heart to heart with a surgeon and I am guessing it was during one of his weaker moments. I would consider it a heart to heart by a patients measure because of the candidness. The majority of his practice revolves around women and cancer issues. During this conversation, which is one forever imprinted in my memory he actually stated that he realized that his profession did very little to prolong life. He also stated that he didn't think that in his lifetime there would be a better way to treat patients, or if there was one ever discovered that he would not live to see it. His response was somewhat remorseful, if not totally impotent in nature. I had the opportunity to see him not to long ago because my niece was considering breast reduction surgery and I accompanied her, he remembered me very well because of the hell raising I put him through 20 yrs earlier. During our chat I mentioned Ozone to him, and that I am an now an avid user. What did he do? poopoed the entire concept by saying that it was a dangerous modality. In short, Ozone was a health hazard. Amazing, since I am here 20 yrs later. This is from the same man who said that I would be lucky if I made it 5 years. Dirk Chardet <chardetalvares@...> wrote: When my father got cured from lung cancer, many years ago, without an operation, chemo or radiation, just with proper food and foodsupplements, I went back to the hospital (Academisch Ziekenhuis Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam) as well to discuss the issue. There we had been told 'he should have the operation, he is still young, he still has a chance' as if this was the only option. When they saw that on the last X-ray, the spot on the left lung - originally the size of a big grape fruit - had disappeared entirely, the conclusion was . 'We must have been mistaken. It can't have been a cancer in the first place'. DCH ----- Original Message ----- From: Eagle I met a local man a few years ago who gave a lecture in sponsored by the local health food store. He was diagnosed with a malignant tumor in his throat. Went to 's Hopkin's to have the tumor removed and refused to go for tradtional chemo and radiation and instead did his research and went to Dr. Donsbach's old place, Hospital Santa for a few weeks and did there oxygen therapy protocols. He was cancer-free for well over seven years and had gone back to JH to have them check him out. At furst they were astonished because they told him w/o chemo he'd die. After they got over the surprise they decided it was not from the oxygen protocols but just a spontaneous remission. Pretty sad that they couldn't admit what was right in front of them. Pretty great though that he beat the cancer w/o chemo. Best to all, Carol Ann wrote: If you can stand just a tad more tongue in cheek sarcasm....the article appears to be the sum total of their advancement for the last 50 years. Amazing when one thinks of all the people that have been compromised, poisoned killed along the way to accumulate this wealth of invaluable information! Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 CAN ANYONE PROVIDE SOME TESTIMONY TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT OZONE OR OXYGEN THERAPY MIGHT HELP POLYCETHEMIA VERA, MY SISTER WAS DIAGNOSED AND SHE'S GOING THROUGH M.D. ANDERSON CANCER HOSPITAL HERE IN HOUSTON, THANK YOU JUNE LACY Re: A must read from Hopkins Hospital....;o) Many many moons ago I had the good fortune to have a heart to heart with a surgeon and I am guessing it was during one of his weaker moments. I would consider it a heart to heart by a patients measure because of the candidness. The majority of his practice revolves around women and cancer issues. During this conversation, which is one forever imprinted in my memory he actually stated that he realized that his profession did very little to prolong life. He also stated that he didn't think that in his lifetime there would be a better way to treat patients, or if there was one ever discovered that he would not live to see it. His response was somewhat remorseful, if not totally impotent in nature. I had the opportunity to see him not to long ago because my niece was considering breast reduction surgery and I accompanied her, he remembered me very well because of the hell raising I put him through 20 yrs earlier. During our chat I mentioned Ozone to him, and that I am an now an avid user. What did he do? poopoed the entire concept by saying that it was a dangerous modality. In short, Ozone was a health hazard. Amazing, since I am here 20 yrs later. This is from the same man who said that I would be lucky if I made it 5 years. Dirk Chardet < chardetalvares@ <mailto:chardetalvares%40clix.pt> clix.pt> wrote: When my father got cured from lung cancer, many years ago, without an operation, chemo or radiation, just with proper food and foodsupplements, I went back to the hospital (Academisch Ziekenhuis Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam) as well to discuss the issue. There we had been told 'he should have the operation, he is still young, he still has a chance' as if this was the only option. When they saw that on the last X-ray, the spot on the left lung - originally the size of a big grape fruit - had disappeared entirely, the conclusion was . 'We must have been mistaken. It can't have been a cancer in the first place'. DCH ----- Original Message ----- From: Eagle I met a local man a few years ago who gave a lecture in sponsored by the local health food store. He was diagnosed with a malignant tumor in his throat. Went to 's Hopkin's to have the tumor removed and refused to go for tradtional chemo and radiation and instead did his research and went to Dr. Donsbach's old place, Hospital Santa for a few weeks and did there oxygen therapy protocols. He was cancer-free for well over seven years and had gone back to JH to have them check him out. At furst they were astonished because they told him w/o chemo he'd die. After they got over the surprise they decided it was not from the oxygen protocols but just a spontaneous remission. Pretty sad that they couldn't admit what was right in front of them. Pretty great though that he beat the cancer w/o chemo. Best to all, Carol Ann wrote: If you can stand just a tad more tongue in cheek sarcasm....the article appears to be the sum total of their advancement for the last 50 years. Amazing when one thinks of all the people that have been compromised, poisoned killed along the way to accumulate this wealth of invaluable information! Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp. <http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html> gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Hopkins did not put this article out, it is a hoax. Good information, but not from Hopkins. Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...> wrote: If you can stand just a tad more tongue in cheek sarcasm....the article appears to be the sum total of their advancement for the last 50 years. Amazing when one thinks of all the people that have been compromised, poisoned killed along the way to accumulate this wealth of invaluable information! Christelti@... wrote: Now there is a news flash that none of us ever knew about...LOL Sorry but I could not help the sarcasm Christel News from Hopkins Hospital AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY (TRY THE KEY WORD) AND ELIMINATE CANCER, JOHN HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY . Cancer Update from Hopkins: Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Kinda reminds me of something that was posted about a message supposedly authored by Carlin upon the death of his wife. Snoops says it's a Hoax. In either case, its the message that counts. Allopathic message regarding it's institutional perspective of Cancer treatment...is essentially, a Hoax, and dosen't matter from which Ivory Tower issues the statements. Lashmett <dlashme@...> wrote: Hopkins did not put this article out, it is a hoax. Good information, but not from Hopkins. Carol Ann wrote: If you can stand just a tad more tongue in cheek sarcasm....the article appears to be the sum total of their advancement for the last 50 years. Amazing when one thinks of all the people that have been compromised, poisoned killed along the way to accumulate this wealth of invaluable information! Christelti@... wrote: Now there is a news flash that none of us ever knew about...LOL Sorry but I could not help the sarcasm Christel News from Hopkins Hospital AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY (TRY THE KEY WORD) AND ELIMINATE CANCER, JOHN HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY . Cancer Update from Hopkins: Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Dear carol, It is interesting that this hoax information should be attributed to s Hopkins, where Dr. Greg Semenza has been proving Dr. Otto Warburg's pronouncement about cancer being caused by a lack of oxygen to be correct. Go to PubMed and search for the doctor and you will see all the work he and his colleagues have done. One day I will collect all the scientific papers and write a precis for the layman. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman Re: A must read from Hopkins Hospital....;o) > Kinda reminds me of something that was posted about a message supposedly authored by Carlin upon the death of his wife. Snoops says it's a Hoax. In either case, its the message that counts. Allopathic message regarding it's institutional perspective of Cancer treatment...is essentially, a Hoax, and dosen't matter from which Ivory Tower issues the statements. > > Lashmett <dlashme@...> wrote: Hopkins did not put this article out, it is a hoax. Good information, but not from Hopkins. > > > > Carol Ann wrote: > If you can stand just a tad more tongue in cheek sarcasm....the article appears to be the sum total of their advancement for the last 50 years. Amazing when one thinks of all the people that have been compromised, poisoned killed along the way to accumulate this wealth of invaluable information! > > Christelti@... wrote: > Now there is a news flash that none of us ever knew about...LOL > Sorry but I could not help the sarcasm > Christel > > News from Hopkins Hospital > > AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY (TRY THE > KEY WORD) AND ELIMINATE > CANCER, JOHN HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE > WAY . > > Cancer Update from Hopkins: > > Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 On 11/8/2007, oxyplus (oxyplus ) wrote: > Kinda reminds me of something that was posted about a message > supposedly authored by Carlin upon the death of his wife. > Snoops says it's a Hoax. In either case, its the message that counts. > Allopathic message regarding it's institutional perspective of Cancer > treatment...is essentially, a Hoax, and dosen't matter from which > Ivory Tower issues the statements. Disagree vehemently... if some entity like s Hopkins had the balls to publish something like this it would provide all the legal ammunition necessary to bust the medical/pharmaceutical/industrial complex back to the stone age... I'm sorry to hear it was a hoax... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Sorry Simon, with the exception of space age equipment re scanners etc, Hophins, the NIH etc. is still in the stone age with regard to Cancer treatment. What was in that email is basically the same archiac ramblings that theese entities and their new agencies have been issuing for decades. the only advances they have made is to discover which chemo drugs cause the worst damage. Simon Jester <tanstaafl@...> wrote: On 11/8/2007, oxyplus (oxyplus ) wrote: > Kinda reminds me of something that was posted about a message > supposedly authored by Carlin upon the death of his wife. > Snoops says it's a Hoax. In either case, its the message that counts. > Allopathic message regarding it's institutional perspective of Cancer > treatment...is essentially, a Hoax, and dosen't matter from which > Ivory Tower issues the statements. Disagree vehemently... if some entity like s Hopkins had the balls to publish something like this it would provide all the legal ammunition necessary to bust the medical/pharmaceutical/industrial complex back to the stone age... I'm sorry to hear it was a hoax... OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Whether a hoax or not, do not expect anything positive from s Hopkins. The people in this institution are up to their eye balls involved in the US-genocide programs and keep away from us as much information on MYCOPLASMS (the instrument of the genocide programs) as possible. 1600 pages in their 'family bible on health (or so)' and not ONE word on mycoplasms. DCH Re: A must read from Hopkins Hospital....;o) On 11/8/2007, oxyplus (oxyplus ) wrote: > Kinda reminds me of something that was posted about a message > supposedly authored by Carlin upon the death of his wife. > Snoops says it's a Hoax. In either case, its the message that counts. > Allopathic message regarding it's institutional perspective of Cancer > treatment...is essentially, a Hoax, and dosen't matter from which > Ivory Tower issues the statements. Disagree vehemently... if some entity like s Hopkins had the balls to publish something like this it would provide all the legal ammunition necessary to bust the medical/pharmaceutical/industrial complex back to the stone age... I'm sorry to hear it was a hoax... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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