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, I don't know if this will be helpful but I would check whether

your clinic is part of an HMO. Sometimes, individual physicians are not

bound by the same rules as a large HMO. For example, with our son we were

originally seeing a family physician in what I thought was a small group

practice. He " pretended " to advocate for us by submitting the lab request

and then we were told only certain tests would be covered. (very few as it

turned out). I did some digging and bugged a LOT of people and discovered

that the group practice had a contract with our health plan and it was NOT

the insurance company (Pacificare) that denied the claim, it was the

management of the HMO that we belonged to. We switched to a pediatric group

(and you can be darn sure I checked this out before joining this group) and

found a very supportive pediatrician. He ordered ALL the tests using the

codes suggested by Dr. Goldberg and we didn't pay a dime (except for the

tests done through IDL and Meridian Valley which were not covered).

Insurance today is very complex and you have to really do a lot of digging.

Hope this helps. If you'd like more info, feel free to e-mail me privately.

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We have our pediatrician write the referral for the tests so that they

are covered by our PPO insurance (BC/BS).

On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:59:21 -0000 " lj smith " <yyzbytor@...>

writes:

>Hello,

>I have been a member for a little while now....sorry I never posted

>anything.

>THe reson I am writing now is to find out if you all have insurance

>issues...when tring to get most of these test covered. I want to

>continue on with all of this....but the cost (out of pocket) is

>killing me. I tried to file insurance on some of the testing ...it

>all came back denied... What are all of you doing to cover the

>expence of this treatment... If you got your insurance to cover this

>what did you do?

>Thanks,

>

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For those of you who lives in states where autistic children qualify for

medicaid, Medicaid did pay for all the tests which our primary insurer did

not. The work didn't cost us one cent. Our son's neurologist (local)

actually ordered the blood work based on the codes Dr. Goldberg gives.

Usually your local department of developmental disabilities can tell you if

autistic children in your state are covered under TEFRA, and thereby qualify

for Medicaid services.

Hope this helps someone!

Traci

changing the world, one word at a time.

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In a message dated 4/3/01 8:42:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, pappadia@...

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> I tried to file insurance on some of the testing ...it

> >all came back denied... What are all of you doing to cover the

> >expence of this treatment... If you got your insurance to cover this

> >what did you do?

>

The trick here is the diagnosis codes. You need to talk to your doctor about

what diagnosis codes to use--or maybe someone on this list might know. I

think most insurance companies don't discriminate against the test itself,

but instead against the diagnosis.

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I think what everyone needs to realize is that we are treating a medical

disorder, not " AUTISM " . Our insurance covers what we are doing just like

any other medical condition.

Why would an insurance company pay for medical treatments for " autism " . It's

not treatable, thankfully what our children have IS TREATABLE.

Cheryl

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Having the right billing code is the key. If you are not using Dr. Goldberg,

you can consider calling his office to find out what the billing code is.

This may help your insurance company know that they are treating a DISEASE

not a developmental disability. Becky

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Hi Michele,

We live in SC. Medicaid under TEFRA has been a godsend as far as getting

services for our kids that our primary insurer will not cover. Because our

school district is the Medicaid Licenced Educational Authority in SC, It

ultimately reimbursed our school district for seventy percent of the cost of

a full time ABA program for our kids. Otherwise, we'd have never gotten the

services...it's a great program in this state, but I know that there are

several states that do not recognize TEFRA, which honestly seems like a crime

to me. The year before we discovered our state had it....we paid eighty

thousand dollars on one year of ABA for two boys....geeeez, I'll never own a

home again, lol.

Traci

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Oops, I apologize for plugging my book on this list..I forgot to turn off my

email signatures before sending. I'm so sorry!

Traci Yates-Poff

author of " Turn Around Bright Eyes: Visions of Refuge From the War Against

Autism, " debuting spring 2002.

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Hi Mercy!

We have at least three other parents here, and a fourth to start shortly! If

I ever get that way, I'll have to drop you an email! We'll do lunch.

Traci Yates-Poff

author of " Turn Around Bright Eyes: Visions of Refuge From the War Against

Autism, " debuting spring 2002.

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Traci

Where are you in SC? I'm in Greenville

Mercy

starmuser@... wrote:

> Hi Michele,

>

> We live in SC. Medicaid under TEFRA has been a godsend as far as getting

> services for our kids that our primary insurer will not cover. Because our

> school district is the Medicaid Licenced Educational Authority in SC, It

> ultimately reimbursed our school district for seventy percent of the cost of

> a full time ABA program for our kids. Otherwise, we'd have never gotten the

> services...it's a great program in this state, but I know that there are

> several states that do not recognize TEFRA, which honestly seems like a crime

> to me. The year before we discovered our state had it....we paid eighty

> thousand dollars on one year of ABA for two boys....geeeez, I'll never own a

> home again, lol.

>

> Traci

>

> Traci

>

> changing the world, one word at a time.

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Hi

Do you ever drive our way? I would love to meet other parents on the

list. Maybe we should find out how many parents are in SC and do something

about .

Mercy -

starmuser@... wrote:

> Hi Mercy,

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> We're in Myrtle Beach!

>

> Traci

>

> changing the world, one word at a time.

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> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

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> opinion of the Research Institute.

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Traci

Don't apologize I think it is wonderful.

I have a son who is 8 how about you?

starmuser@... wrote:

> Oops, I apologize for plugging my book on this list..I forgot to turn off my

> email signatures before sending. I'm so sorry!

>

> Traci Yates-Poff

> author of " Turn Around Bright Eyes: Visions of Refuge From the War Against

> Autism, " debuting spring 2002.

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute.

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>

>

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In a message dated 4/5/01 9:48:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,

clbro66@... writes:

> Why would an insurance company pay for medical treatments for " autism " . It's

> not treatable, thankfully what our children have IS TREATABLE.

>

I agree with you. But the way to get these medical treatments paid for is to

use diagnosis codes for other things. Like stomach ailments, allegies,

immune problems, etc.

in TX

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Yes, we have been with Dr. G for about 3 1/2 years. And I sometimes feel I am

the only one pulling and tugging. When I lecture to students I always end up

with phone calls from all over the States inquiring about .

Mercy -

JOSKAT95@... wrote:

> Mercy, Is your child a patient of Dr. G's? Kathy Northern-New York

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Kathy, not yet, although we're working towards that. I think I'd mentioned

that in a few earlier posts that travel terrifies our six year old, so we

chose to work with a local neurologist, who has been running Dr. G's protocol

for us. My boys have benefitted so much. Our youngest (, age 5)

appears to be one of those kids that's going to " normalize " . He has days

where we truly can't tell there was ever a problem. He blew away his

kindergarten readiness test, and his ABA supervisor has quit doing a lot of

academic drills with him because he's so far ahead of his peers.

Socially...we're getting there, lol.

My older boy, , crawled into my lap with a story book, wanting me to

read with him last night. He has NEVER ever shown an interest in being read

to before, so I'm really thrilled today. Since beginning the protocol (last

September), he has shown a real desire to communicate (he uses PECS

fluently), and is so much happier a child.

We've been able to reduce his depakote dosage to half of what he used to take

with no ill effects, and we continue to reduce it slowly down. Our hope is

he will soon be able to live seizure free without anticonvulsants due to the

long term use of the SSRI's and antivirals.

However, I am aware of three other children in our area who are seeing

Goldberg, with very good results. Slow, but sure and measurable progress in

all of them, I truly believe in the hypothesis.

Traci

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Kathy,

I may be interested in doing this, if you can send me some guidelines or a

mission statement for what a chapter does? I imagine theirs a lot of

medical community education involved?

Thanks

Traci Yates-Poff

author of " Turn Around Bright Eyes: Visions of Refuge From the War Against

Autism, " debuting spring 2002.

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Hi ,

My sons are six and five, both kids, and I also have a neurotypical

seven year old princess with an IQ that leaves mommy standing in the dust,

lol. I also have a twenty one year old daughter from my first marriage who

is extremely brilliant, but also suffers from OCD. Poor kid spends most of

her day wiping up glass rings and washing her hands. It interferes terribly

with her life goals, and it breaks my heart.

I'm trying to encourage her to get the bloodwork done as well.

Traci

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Traci,

Would you be willing to track down these other families and start a chapter?

The only way that we will be able to get the protocol to other children

(and I am super glad that your kids are doing so well)! is to work as groups.

Strength in numbers, etc., the politics of autism are real and I didn't

believe that until I started having to struggle over roadblocks! Kathy

Coalition - Northern New York Chapter

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