Re: EMG test WAS: ennui

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Your test may have revealed something you may not be aware of. While

it is true people with AS and other autistics may have heightened

sensory abilitity, many, but by no means all, have a high tolerance

for pain. That the pin pricks did not cause you to cry out may be

indicative that you have this tolerance for lesser amounts of pain.

And no, I personally have never had that test.

Tom

Administrator

EMG test WAS: ennui

Has anyone ever had one of these tests done? A very nice older

gentleman performed the testing and had to prick me about 25-30 times

plus send shocks down different parts of my arm and neck. It wasn't

bad at all and after the was finished he told me I was a champion. He

said he only had one other patient who ever did as well as I did, as

far as not flinching or crying out in pain. When he was about to

stick me, he say " small pinch " and made comments like, " your so

good " . I asked " I'm I supposed to be saying OOOHHH & OOWWW that

hurts? " I guess most people do.

Anyway, my numbness is caused by a pinched nerve in my neck that he

said Xrays wouldn't have shown. I thought his attitude was great

because he also asked tons of times if I had any questions about the

test. In the begining when I said no, he said " You looked it up on

the internet, didn't you " . " Of course " I relpied. When he tweeked

the nerve in my neck, you could hear it twanging before I moved when

the rest of the nerves he tested did not " sound off " until I moved a

muscle. I'm fairly certain my Dr. will be calling for an MRI next.

Thank goodness for medical insurance. I'd say another test is

unnecessary but I do not want to lose muscle strength or have atrophy

set in. I must be in top notch condition to help my Mom through her

chemo sessions. Well, I won't bore everyone with my medical woes,

just felt like rambling.

Kim

[Guest guest]

Reminds me of passage IV in one of my favorite works- Many people love to complain because it "proves" others care. ...very passive aggressive? Perhaps not being as subject to mental herd poisoning quite as much ASDs have greater resistance to this kind of expression of pain? Anyway- passage IV from Dostoevsky's The Underground Man: http://www.kiosek.com/dostoevsky/library/underground.txt "Ha, ha, ha! You will be finding enjoyment in toothache next," you cry,with a laugh."Well, even in toothache there is enjoyment," I answer. I had toothachefor a whole month and I know there is. In that case, of course,people are not spiteful in silence, but moan; but they are not candidmoans, they are malignant moans, and the malignancy is the wholepoint. The enjoyment

of the sufferer finds expression in those moans; ifhe did not feel enjoyment in them he would not moan. It is a goodexample, gentlemen, and I will develop it. Those moans express in thefirst place all the aimlessness of your pain, which is so humiliating toyour consciousness; the whole legal system of nature on which you spitdisdainfully, of course, but from which you suffer all the same while shedoes not. They express the consciousness that you have no enemy topunish, but that you have pain; the consciousness that in spite of allpossible Wagenheims you are in complete slavery to your teeth; that ifsomeone wishes it, your teeth will leave off aching, and if he does not,they will go on aching another three months; and that finally if you arestill contumacious and still protest, all that is left you for your owngratification is to thrash yourself or beat your wall with your fist as hard asyou can, and

absolutely nothing more. Well, these mortal insults, thesejeers on the part of someone unknown, end at last in an enjoyment whichsometimes reaches the highest degree of voluptuousness. I ask you,gentlemen, listen sometimes to the moans of an educated man of thenineteenth century suffering from toothache, on the second or third dayof the attack, when he is beginning to moan, not as he moaned on thefirst day, that is, not simply because he has toothache, not just as anycoarse peasant, but as a man affected by progress and European civilisation,a man who is "divorced from the soil and the national elements," asthey express it now-a-days. His moans become nasty, disgustingly malignant,and go on for whole days and nights. And of course he knowshimself that he is doing himself no sort of good with his moans; he knowsbetter than anyone that he is only lacerating and harassing himself andothers for

nothing; he knows that even the audience before whom he ismaking his efforts, and his whole family, listen to him with loathing, donot put a ha'porth of faith in him, and inwardly understand that he mightmoan differently, more simply, without trills and flourishes, and that he isonly amusing himself like that from ill-humour, from malignancy. Well,in all these recognitions and disgraces it is that there lies a voluptuouspleasure. As though he would say: "I am worrying you, I am laceratingyour hearts, I am keeping everyone in the house awake. Well, stay awakethen, you, too, feel every minute that I have toothache. I am not a heroto you now, as I tried to seem before, but simply a nasty person, animpostor. Well, so be it, then! I am very glad that you see through me. Itis nasty for you to hear my despicable moans: well, let it be nasty; here Iwill let you have a nastier flourish in a

minute. ..." You do notunderstand even now, gentlemen? No, it seems our development and ourconsciousness must go further to understand all the intricacies of thispleasure. You laugh? Delighted. My jests, gentlemen, are of course inbad taste, jerky, involved, lacking self-confidence. But of course that isbecause I do not respect myself. Can a man of perception respect himselfat all? environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: Your test may have revealed something you may not be aware of. While it is true people with AS and other autistics may have heightened sensory abilitity, many, but by no means all, have a high tolerance for pain. That the pin pricks did not cause you to cry out may be indicative that you have this tolerance for lesser amounts of pain.And no, I personally have never had that test.TomAdministrator EMG test WAS: ennui Has anyone ever had one of these tests done? A very nice oldergentleman performed the testing and had to prick me about 25-30 timesplus send shocks down different parts of my arm and neck. It wasn'tbad at all and after the was finished he told me I was a champion.

Hesaid he only had one other patient who ever did as well as I did, asfar as not flinching or crying out in pain. When he was about tostick me, he say "small pinch" and made comments like, "your sogood". I asked "I'm I supposed to be saying OOOHHH & OOWWW thathurts?" I guess most people do.Anyway, my numbness is caused by a pinched nerve in my neck that hesaid Xrays wouldn't have shown. I thought his attitude was greatbecause he also asked tons of times if I had any questions about thetest. In the begining when I said no, he said "You looked it up onthe internet, didn't you". "Of course" I relpied. When he tweekedthe nerve in my neck, you could hear it twanging before I moved whenthe rest of the nerves he tested did not "sound off" until I moved amuscle. I'm fairly certain my Dr. will be calling for an MRI next.Thank goodness for medical insurance. I'd say another test isunnecessary but I do not want to

lose muscle strength or have atrophyset in. I must be in top notch condition to help my Mom through herchemo sessions. Well, I won't bore everyone with my medical woes,just felt like rambling.KimHephaestus

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Reminds me of passage IV in one of my favorite works- Many people love to complain because it "proves" others care. ...very passive aggressive? Perhaps not being as subject to mental herd poisoning quite as much ASDs have greater resistance to this kind of expression of pain? Anyway- passage IV from Dostoevsky's The Underground Man: http://www.kiosek.com/dostoevsky/library/underground.txt "Ha, ha, ha! You will be finding enjoyment in toothache next," you cry,with a laugh."Well, even in toothache there is enjoyment," I answer. I had toothachefor a whole month and I know there is. In that case, of course,people are not spiteful in silence, but moan; but they are not candidmoans, they are malignant moans, and the malignancy is the wholepoint. The enjoyment

of the sufferer finds expression in those moans; ifhe did not feel enjoyment in them he would not moan. It is a goodexample, gentlemen, and I will develop it. Those moans express in thefirst place all the aimlessness of your pain, which is so humiliating toyour consciousness; the whole legal system of nature on which you spitdisdainfully, of course, but from which you suffer all the same while shedoes not. They express the consciousness that you have no enemy topunish, but that you have pain; the consciousness that in spite of allpossible Wagenheims you are in complete slavery to your teeth; that ifsomeone wishes it, your teeth will leave off aching, and if he does not,they will go on aching another three months; and that finally if you arestill contumacious and still protest, all that is left you for your owngratification is to thrash yourself or beat your wall with your fist as hard asyou can, and

absolutely nothing more. Well, these mortal insults, thesejeers on the part of someone unknown, end at last in an enjoyment whichsometimes reaches the highest degree of voluptuousness. I ask you,gentlemen, listen sometimes to the moans of an educated man of thenineteenth century suffering from toothache, on the second or third dayof the attack, when he is beginning to moan, not as he moaned on thefirst day, that is, not simply because he has toothache, not just as anycoarse peasant, but as a man affected by progress and European civilisation,a man who is "divorced from the soil and the national elements," asthey express it now-a-days. His moans become nasty, disgustingly malignant,and go on for whole days and nights. And of course he knowshimself that he is doing himself no sort of good with his moans; he knowsbetter than anyone that he is only lacerating and harassing himself andothers for

nothing; he knows that even the audience before whom he ismaking his efforts, and his whole family, listen to him with loathing, donot put a ha'porth of faith in him, and inwardly understand that he mightmoan differently, more simply, without trills and flourishes, and that he isonly amusing himself like that from ill-humour, from malignancy. Well,in all these recognitions and disgraces it is that there lies a voluptuouspleasure. As though he would say: "I am worrying you, I am laceratingyour hearts, I am keeping everyone in the house awake. Well, stay awakethen, you, too, feel every minute that I have toothache. I am not a heroto you now, as I tried to seem before, but simply a nasty person, animpostor. Well, so be it, then! I am very glad that you see through me. Itis nasty for you to hear my despicable moans: well, let it be nasty; here Iwill let you have a nastier flourish in a

minute. ..." You do notunderstand even now, gentlemen? No, it seems our development and ourconsciousness must go further to understand all the intricacies of thispleasure. You laugh? Delighted. My jests, gentlemen, are of course inbad taste, jerky, involved, lacking self-confidence. But of course that isbecause I do not respect myself. Can a man of perception respect himselfat all? environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: Your test may have revealed something you may not be aware of. While it is true people with AS and other autistics may have heightened sensory abilitity, many, but by no means all, have a high tolerance for pain. That the pin pricks did not cause you to cry out may be indicative that you have this tolerance for lesser amounts of pain.And no, I personally have never had that test.TomAdministrator EMG test WAS: ennui Has anyone ever had one of these tests done? A very nice oldergentleman performed the testing and had to prick me about 25-30 timesplus send shocks down different parts of my arm and neck. It wasn'tbad at all and after the was finished he told me I was a champion.

Hesaid he only had one other patient who ever did as well as I did, asfar as not flinching or crying out in pain. When he was about tostick me, he say "small pinch" and made comments like, "your sogood". I asked "I'm I supposed to be saying OOOHHH & OOWWW thathurts?" I guess most people do.Anyway, my numbness is caused by a pinched nerve in my neck that hesaid Xrays wouldn't have shown. I thought his attitude was greatbecause he also asked tons of times if I had any questions about thetest. In the begining when I said no, he said "You looked it up onthe internet, didn't you". "Of course" I relpied. When he tweekedthe nerve in my neck, you could hear it twanging before I moved whenthe rest of the nerves he tested did not "sound off" until I moved amuscle. I'm fairly certain my Dr. will be calling for an MRI next.Thank goodness for medical insurance. I'd say another test isunnecessary but I do not want to

lose muscle strength or have atrophyset in. I must be in top notch condition to help my Mom through herchemo sessions. Well, I won't bore everyone with my medical woes,just felt like rambling.KimHephaestus

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A most apt description of misery loves company and woe to me, the wife

of a man whose sensitivities cry out for companionship.

Kim

>

> Reminds me of passage IV in one of my favorite works- Many people

love to complain because it " proves " others care. ...very passive

aggressive? Perhaps not being as subject to mental herd poisoning

quite as much ASDs have greater resistance to this kind of expression

of pain?

[Guest guest]

A most apt description of misery loves company and woe to me, the wife

of a man whose sensitivities cry out for companionship.

Kim

>

> Reminds me of passage IV in one of my favorite works- Many people

love to complain because it " proves " others care. ...very passive

aggressive? Perhaps not being as subject to mental herd poisoning

quite as much ASDs have greater resistance to this kind of expression

of pain?

[Guest guest]

The passage seems to be saying degree and intellectual

acomplishment can be a vanity. You desire people to suffer your

display's, to listen to you go on with no real purpose than to be

heard. The folly is in the loudness. Intelligenge isn't a

display. Although sometimes petting makes a dog more determined to

please, barking may have the reverse effect. Intellect doesn't have

to be loud to be appreciated. The difficultity is in diseminating

information without getting too carried away because people can't

handle the loud prophet, regardless of how correct he/she may be.

Oh hello, my name is mimi and I have been reading posts but have

been silent. My son was dx'd in 2003 PDD/nos. I dx'd myself over

the course of the last 4 months. Realizing, my modes of thought had

never found a place among my peer group. I had conceded to being

odd and liking it when I was 6. I have spent the last few years

trying to understand my pattern of thinking, in relation to my son's

as well as how it clashes with most of the rest of society. I find

often while my own process may be confounding to others, their

process makes no sense in terms of waste. Not to say I never go off

on a tangent. Ahem

anyway. after my son's dx my husband left (aspie) but in my

estimation lower functoning and a different critera of importance,

in terms of life fulfilment. He lies quite often and uses this as a

life compenation, in addition he covets money. In my estimation he

desires the convience store guide to life. I am however a worker

bee. very focused, someimes myopicly so and that becomes unnerving,

but also makes me consistant. My buttons are always the same,

although people don't always get my methodology. It makes some of

my behavior seem erratic, however if I draw the line, it follows

logic. Anyay without getting too windy

I am saying I was suprised to see such a variation of asperger

presentment. I had assumed that I must not be aspergers because I

differed from my ex. Now, I just see it as different compensative

measures. Some more viable and successful than others. I hope I

have offended no one; as that is not my intention.

I hope I can join in conversation. mimi

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the forum mimi.

>

> The passage seems to be saying degree and intellectual

> acomplishment can be a vanity. You desire people to suffer your

> display's, to listen to you go on with no real purpose than to be

> heard. The folly is in the loudness. Intelligenge isn't a

> display. Although sometimes petting makes a dog more determined to

> please, barking may have the reverse effect. Intellect doesn't

have

> to be loud to be appreciated. The difficultity is in diseminating

> information without getting too carried away because people can't

> handle the loud prophet, regardless of how correct he/she may be.

>

> Oh hello, my name is mimi and I have been reading posts but have

> been silent. My son was dx'd in 2003 PDD/nos. I dx'd myself over

> the course of the last 4 months. Realizing, my modes of thought had

> never found a place among my peer group. I had conceded to being

> odd and liking it when I was 6. I have spent the last few years

> trying to understand my pattern of thinking, in relation to my

son's

> as well as how it clashes with most of the rest of society. I find

> often while my own process may be confounding to others, their

> process makes no sense in terms of waste. Not to say I never go

off

> on a tangent. Ahem

> anyway. after my son's dx my husband left (aspie) but in my

> estimation lower functoning and a different critera of importance,

> in terms of life fulfilment. He lies quite often and uses this as

a

> life compenation, in addition he covets money. In my estimation he

> desires the convience store guide to life. I am however a worker

> bee. very focused, someimes myopicly so and that becomes

unnerving,

> but also makes me consistant. My buttons are always the same,

> although people don't always get my methodology. It makes some of

> my behavior seem erratic, however if I draw the line, it follows

> logic. Anyay without getting too windy

>

> I am saying I was suprised to see such a variation of asperger

> presentment. I had assumed that I must not be aspergers because I

> differed from my ex. Now, I just see it as different compensative

> measures. Some more viable and successful than others. I hope I

> have offended no one; as that is not my intention.

>

> I hope I can join in conversation. mimi

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group.

Feel free to join in just as much as you please. There are a lot of

people here. Some post more than others, but we usually have a lot of

good conversations going.

Tom

Administrator

Oh hello, my name is mimi and I have been reading posts but have

been silent.

I hope I can join in conversation. mimi

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group.

Feel free to join in just as much as you please. There are a lot of

people here. Some post more than others, but we usually have a lot of

good conversations going.

Tom

Administrator

Oh hello, my name is mimi and I have been reading posts but have

been silent.

I hope I can join in conversation. mimi