Re: CBT / ERP success or failure?

[Guest guest]

Hi BJ,

I feel very differently than the psychologist who told you you

could do more damage at home! I think you are absolutely on the

right track by first and foremost, being a loving enough parent to

be doing everything possible to help your son. The best way I've

learned to battle OCD over the last 3 years is to arm myself with as

much info as possible, surround myself with understanding people

(the group!), try to find qualified professional help and accept

that this is a HORRIBLE TERRIBLE ROTTEN disorder in which there are

absolutely no right or wrongs and it's all trial and error!

Supposing you had found a complete expert on OCD to treat your

son the first thing they would have done is EXACTLY what you did -

teach him to recognize OCD thoughts as just that, thoughts. You had

no idea what OCD would twist it into for him and there is no way a

trained therapist would have either. OCD is tricky like that and

the results would have been the same whether it was you playing

therapist at home or with a " qualified " psychologist in an office

somewhere. Don't beat yourself up about it (easier said than done

right? I know!).

As far as my own experience with CBT/ERP, we went through at

least 4 therapists before I got frustrated and bought Dr March's

book " OCD in Children and Adolescents " which is actually a manual

written for therapists (I did just order the book you are talking

about, because it sounds much more layperson friendly!). I followed

that, along with all the advice in Dr Chansky's book (Freeing Your

Child from OCD) and for about a year we did therapy at home. We had

alot of success with it. My son was pretty stable at the time

thanks to some help from Zoloft, but he got the basics down and was

we were able to control setbacks and flare-ups using those two books

and advice from this group. About 6 months ago I thought maybe it'd

be a good idea to try to find a therapist again, just in case things

ever got too far out of control that I needed help, or heaven

forbid, something happened to me! I work at a hospital and emailed

the Dr who is the head of Child Psychology there asking for a

recommendation. Thankfully, the Dr he mentioned took as a new

patient and absolutely, totally " gets it " . In fact, she uses the

same manual by Dr March that I had been using all along and

basically she does and says the same things I had been saying all

along, but sometimes my son tends to listen more when whatever is

being said isn't coming from mom. She's also been a tremendous

support for me (telling me I'm doing fine and there is no right or

wrong, etc) which is great too. The biggest benefit is that

although my son was doing great when we started seeing her, he's had

a MAJOR flare up and hasn't been to school a full day since

Christmas break. Of course the school doesn't fully believe

anything I say (I'm just an ignorant parent you know!) so it's been

good to have our Dr on our side in dealing with them. Basically,

she calls the school social worker, says what I would have said and

Bam! It's taken care of.

Anyway, I KNOW from experience, that you can have great success

with doing what you are doing at home, but that having

a " professional " on your side is also important. Hang in there,

keep up with the book you are reading and don't give up on finding a

dr or therapist. Things will get better - I promise! Then someday

they'll get worse, then better, then worse... and on and on I

think you'll know when you find the right therapist, and if you get

the feeling the person isn't right, keep looking!

I wish you and your son all the best - remember it's also very

important to take care of YOURSELF right now, no matter how

impossible that seems!

le

>

> Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

>

> As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

> who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things

at

> home, following the guidelines of a book by March called,

Talking

> Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

> recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made

things

> drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought

in

> his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it

out.

> While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

> because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what

he

> was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use

a

> therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a

lot

> worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

> able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone

who

> is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with

meds.

>

> I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success

(or

> failure) stories would help me get perspective.

>

> Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

> trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us

anyway?

>

> BJ

>

[Guest guest]

le, I'm so sorry to hear that your son is suffering and out of

school because of this wretched stuff. We homeschool, but everything

stopped 2 1/2 weeks ago. He is back on meds, and they have toned

things down enough he has been able to get off of the couch, where he

laid for days, white faced and clenched. But, he is still not doing

well. I'm not sure when we will be able to pick the books back up.

But at least he is eating (some) and watching tv occasionally. I hate

this stuff.

Can I ask, was your son on medication at the time that he had this

recent flareup?

Our son was off of his after being on them for 2 1/2 years. He was

off for 7 months and doing well, until it exploded one day. We chose

to take him off to see if he still needed them. But, also because

they caused him to gain a lot of weight Plus, we were concerned that

they would become ineffective. He's back on Celexa and reacting a bit

different this time on them. I'm not sure what to think. . .I'm just

watching him closely. The doctor just keeps wanting to raise the

level and raise it again (just his primary doc since there is no

psychiatrists around either), but I'm not wanting him overmedicated

before we give them a chance to work.

I appreciate you input and response. Thank you.

BJ

> >

> > Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

> >

> > As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

> > who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things

> at

> > home, following the guidelines of a book by March called,

> Talking

> > Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

> > recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made

> things

> > drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought

> in

> > his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it

> out.

> > While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

> > because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what

> he

> > was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use

> a

> > therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a

> lot

> > worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

> > able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone

> who

> > is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with

> meds.

> >

> > I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success

> (or

> > failure) stories would help me get perspective.

> >

> > Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

> > trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us

> anyway?

> >

> > BJ

> >

>

[Guest guest]

we've done stuff here that has worked and even if you're seeing

someone, most will be done at home but I remember an expert saying

once that it's hard for mom to be the therapist i know some do - and

financially I think i want to stop asap and do it here but yet having

the professional there for school is helpful - just some thoughts

eileen

Quoting svdbyhislove <BJClosner@...>:

> Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

>

> As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

> who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things at

> home, following the guidelines of a book by March called, Talking

> Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

> recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made things

> drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought in

> his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it out.

> While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

> because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what he

> was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use a

> therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a lot

> worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

> able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone who

> is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with meds.

>

> I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success (or

> failure) stories would help me get perspective.

>

> Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

> trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us anyway?

>

> BJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son has a therapist come to our house, weekly. We have been very

fortunate and I would say success. We have come a long way, I wonder

where we would be without her. We tell her what's going on she gives

us the work to do. I can call, ask questions, or just unload the

burdon. I just found this site, and up until the past couple of

weeks, I haven't heard any other parenting issues quite like mine.

It is good, to know that other families have been through the same

things. It is very intimidating reading the books, and I think that

most the time the therapist is for me. She helps me, help my son.

She helps me think, when it is so far beyond what I can emagine.

School meetings, etc. I would never be able to deal with all the

issues, dr.apt's, school issues and the teachers on my own. She

encourages me, reminds me of how far we've come when I forget, she is

great with my son, he loves her and hates her. We need her. I hope

you find the support you need.

>

> Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

>

> As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

> who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things

at

> home, following the guidelines of a book by March called,

Talking

> Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

> recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made

things

> drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought

in

> his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it

out.

> While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

> because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what he

> was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use a

> therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a

lot

> worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

> able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone

who

> is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with

meds.

>

> I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success

(or

> failure) stories would help me get perspective.

>

> Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

> trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us

anyway?

>

> BJ

>

[Guest guest]

My son has a therapist come to our house, weekly. We have been very

fortunate and I would say success. We have come a long way, I wonder

where we would be without her. We tell her what's going on she gives

us the work to do. I can call, ask questions, or just unload the

burdon. I just found this site, and up until the past couple of

weeks, I haven't heard any other parenting issues quite like mine.

It is good, to know that other families have been through the same

things. It is very intimidating reading the books, and I think that

most the time the therapist is for me. She helps me, help my son.

She helps me think, when it is so far beyond what I can emagine.

School meetings, etc. I would never be able to deal with all the

issues, dr.apt's, school issues and the teachers on my own. She

encourages me, reminds me of how far we've come when I forget, she is

great with my son, he loves her and hates her. We need her. I hope

you find the support you need.

>

> Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

>

> As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

> who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things

at

> home, following the guidelines of a book by March called,

Talking

> Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

> recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made

things

> drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought

in

> his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it

out.

> While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

> because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what he

> was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use a

> therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a

lot

> worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

> able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone

who

> is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with

meds.

>

> I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success

(or

> failure) stories would help me get perspective.

>

> Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

> trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us

anyway?

>

> BJ

>

[Guest guest]

BJ,

Please email me offline.

Joye in Southeastern PA

svdbyhislove <BJClosner@...> wrote:

Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things at

home, following the guidelines of a book by March called, Talking

Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made things

drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought in

his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it out.

While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what he

was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use a

therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a lot

worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone who

is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with meds.

I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success (or

failure) stories would help me get perspective.

Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us anyway?

BJ

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[Guest guest]

I agree, it is hard for mom to do it, but we have had pretty good success. You

just need to be firm and remember this will help.

Sharon

Re: CBT / ERP success or failure?

we've done stuff here that has worked and even if you're seeing

someone, most will be done at home but I remember an expert saying

once that it's hard for mom to be the therapist i know some do - and

financially I think i want to stop asap and do it here but yet having

the professional there for school is helpful - just some thoughts

eileen

Quoting svdbyhislove <BJClosner@...>:

> Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

>

> As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

> who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things at

> home, following the guidelines of a book by March called, Talking

> Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

> recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made things

> drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought in

> his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it out.

> While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

> because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what he

> was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use a

> therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a lot

> worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

> able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone who

> is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with meds.

>

> I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success (or

> failure) stories would help me get perspective.

>

> Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

> trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us anyway?

>

> BJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

CBT/ERP has been successful with my dd. It has also helped me to use advise

from the book " Freeing your child from OCD " by Dr Chansky. My dd has been

decreasing gradually her rituals by working the one that is causing less anxiety

first, then working towards a more difficult one gradually. She started in Dec

and I can honestly say with time and lots of encouragement and praising she has

accomplished so much.

Our life is definitely more manageable. It has to be one day at a time.

Also I can't forget to self nurture myself so that I can be healthy in helping

her out. Its been a struggle but well worth it. Although I do not reply often

I would like to thank you all for your e-mails. Your e-mails help me alot.

LD

svdbyhislove <BJClosner@...> wrote:

le, I'm so sorry to hear that your son is suffering and out of

school because of this wretched stuff. We homeschool, but everything

stopped 2 1/2 weeks ago. He is back on meds, and they have toned

things down enough he has been able to get off of the couch, where he

laid for days, white faced and clenched. But, he is still not doing

well. I'm not sure when we will be able to pick the books back up.

But at least he is eating (some) and watching tv occasionally. I hate

this stuff.

Can I ask, was your son on medication at the time that he had this

recent flareup?

Our son was off of his after being on them for 2 1/2 years. He was

off for 7 months and doing well, until it exploded one day. We chose

to take him off to see if he still needed them. But, also because

they caused him to gain a lot of weight Plus, we were concerned that

they would become ineffective. He's back on Celexa and reacting a bit

different this time on them. I'm not sure what to think. . .I'm just

watching him closely. The doctor just keeps wanting to raise the

level and raise it again (just his primary doc since there is no

psychiatrists around either), but I'm not wanting him overmedicated

before we give them a chance to work.

I appreciate you input and response. Thank you.

BJ

> >

> > Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

> >

> > As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

> > who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things

> at

> > home, following the guidelines of a book by March called,

> Talking

> > Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

> > recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made

> things

> > drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought

> in

> > his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it

> out.

> > While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

> > because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what

> he

> > was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use

> a

> > therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a

> lot

> > worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

> > able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone

> who

> > is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with

> meds.

> >

> > I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success

> (or

> > failure) stories would help me get perspective.

> >

> > Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

> > trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us

> anyway?

> >

> > BJ

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Even with a counsellor or therapist we are the ones doing the work at home. It

upsets me to read that some therapist say we can't to this at home. Although I

agree some guidance is helpful. I think our children are lucky to have been

diagnosed in childhood and have there parents to help them out to cope and beat

the OCD.

LD

kidsnpets <kidsnpets@...> wrote:

I agree, it is hard for mom to do it, but we have had pretty good

success. You just need to be firm and remember this will help.

Sharon

Re: CBT / ERP success or failure?

we've done stuff here that has worked and even if you're seeing

someone, most will be done at home but I remember an expert saying

once that it's hard for mom to be the therapist i know some do - and

financially I think i want to stop asap and do it here but yet having

the professional there for school is helpful - just some thoughts

eileen

Quoting svdbyhislove <BJClosner@...>:

> Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

>

> As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

> who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things at

> home, following the guidelines of a book by March called, Talking

> Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

> recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made things

> drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought in

> his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it out.

> While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

> because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what he

> was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use a

> therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a lot

> worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

> able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone who

> is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with meds.

>

> I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success (or

> failure) stories would help me get perspective.

>

> Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

> trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us anyway?

>

> BJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had miraculous success with the right CBT/ERP for my very young

daughter. Took a long time to get diagnosis right - many kept trying

to say the severity could not be OCD alone, that it had to be bipolar

or worse. We had been to many places including UCLA (bad

experience), then eventually found a great psych doc OCD treatment

center very near us in No. Calif (sacramento) who takes children as

young as 5 and our insurance. On Zoloft and a small dose of

Resperdal, we had to do daily therapy M-F for months, then 4 days/wk,

then 3, etc. until she " graduated " from monthly sessions over a year

ago. She went from totally disabled from the OCD (unable to go to

school, eat, dress herself, brush her teeth, etc. and needing to be

carried across the cross to prevent stepping a certain way, etc. etc.

etc.) to a normal adolescent. The worse years were from ages 7-11,

with therapy beginning at age 11. We have decreased the zoloft some,

and weaned her down to just a very tiny dose of resperdal which we

plan to attempt to wean off totally this summer, if possible. She has

not had a return of her prior symptoms, just a few thoughts here and

there that she deals with without any interference in her life. She

has friends, grades are picking up. Quite a miracle.

> >

> > Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

> >

> > As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified

psychologist,

> > who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some

things

> at

> > home, following the guidelines of a book by March called,

> Talking

> > Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

> > recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made

> things

> > drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every

thought

> in

> > his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it

> out.

> > While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

> > because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what

he

> > was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to

use a

> > therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a

> lot

> > worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

> > able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone

> who

> > is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with

> meds.

> >

> > I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success

> (or

> > failure) stories would help me get perspective.

> >

> > Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

> > trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help

us

> anyway?

> >

> > BJ

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No kidding! Our therapist has been great. When we go in with an issue, she

always tells me she knows I KNOW how to do this at home with out her. :0)

Sharon

Re: CBT / ERP success or failure?

we've done stuff here that has worked and even if you're seeing

someone, most will be done at home but I remember an expert saying

once that it's hard for mom to be the therapist i know some do - and

financially I think i want to stop asap and do it here but yet having

the professional there for school is helpful - just some thoughts

eileen

Quoting svdbyhislove <BJClosner@...>:

> Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

>

> As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

> who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things at

> home, following the guidelines of a book by March called, Talking

> Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

> recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made things

> drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought in

> his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it out.

> While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

> because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what he

> was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use a

> therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a lot

> worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

> able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone who

> is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with meds.

>

> I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success (or

> failure) stories would help me get perspective.

>

> Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

> trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us anyway?

>

> BJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

BJ,

We have had great success with CBT/ERP. Our son (15) went through intensive ERP

treatment at a specialized OCD program and his condition has improved immensely.

We never did have much success at home with it, though as he resists our

efforts. Thankfully he learned so much at the program that he is doing well on

his own keeping it in check. I do think you can have success with ERP at home,

particularly with younger kids, but with severe OCD it can be hard to get

through the resistance the OCD sufferer puts up. That's where a good therapist

who knows what they are doing is essential. Every case is different though -

just my experience. Hope you find the help you are looking for.

CBT / ERP success or failure?

Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things at

home, following the guidelines of a book by March called, Talking

Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made things

drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought in

his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it out.

While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what he

was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use a

therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a lot

worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone who

is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with meds.

I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success (or

failure) stories would help me get perspective.

Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us anyway?

BJ

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Where was this program offered. My son is 14 but so far CBT/ERP has had limited

effectiveness.

Thanks

CBT / ERP success or failure?

Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things at

home, following the guidelines of a book by March called, Talking

Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made things

drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought in

his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it out.

While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what he

was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use a

therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a lot

worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone who

is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with meds.

I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success (or

failure) stories would help me get perspective.

Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us anyway?

BJ

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The OCD treatment program my son attended was at 's Memorial in Oconomowoc

Wisconsin. The OCFoundation website has a special page listing all the intensive

treatment programs around the country:

http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocd-intensive-treatment-programs.html. These are

either residential or partial day treatment. If you have one within driving

distance you are extremely lucky. We had to travel out of state. I heard from

another parent today with a teenage son who was resistant to CBT/ ERP. It seems

to be common and is probably an indication of how bad the OCD is. Of course,

being a teenager doesn't help either! Good luck with your search. Hope you find

something near where you live.

CBT / ERP success or failure?

Have any of you had success or failure with CBT and ERP?

As I'm continuing my desperate search for a qualified psychologist,

who will actually take an adolescent, we started doing some things at

home, following the guidelines of a book by March called, Talking

Back to OCD. Just doing the first step, which is basically

recognizing OCD for what it is when you have thoughts, has made things

drastically worse. Josh is now analyzing absolutely every thought in

his head until he is very stressed out from trying to figure it out.

While talking on the phone to a psychologist, (who won't help us

because he won't take someone who is 15), but seemed to know what he

was talking about. . . He said with some people, it is best to use a

therapist because trying to do things at home could make things a lot

worse, instead of better. He shook my confidence that we might be

able to do anything that helps, while we struggle to find someone who

is willing to help us, and while we play Russian roulette with meds.

I'm feeling very discouraged and confused right now. Any success (or

failure) stories would help me get perspective.

Am I beating my head against a wall, being on the phone every day,

trying to find someone to give my money to, that might not help us anyway?

BJ

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