Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 hi gail, that sounds good i think... however, i have sort of avoided the ear insufflated because of the stories i've read about the horendous drainage... i have done some but not long enough to get anything moving. but i wonder.... do you think that the mms stopping the drainage is a good thing just because the drainage stopped.... or do you think maybe the ears might really need to drain to get rid of that stuff.. or is the mms carrying it off somehow where the ears don't need to drain... or is it just sitting there now.. makes one wonder how much of that stuff can there be to drain to. i know you've been at this for a long time. have you changed your diet, lifestyle etc to avoid chemically polluting your body. i know i want to and try but find it almost impossible. don't mean to grill you just some things i've wondered about. wes Ear insufflating & MMS drops Hello All, OK, here's the latest. Remember how I wrote in saying I was up to doing 15 minutes ear insufflating in each ear without any drainage. I was so proud of myself as I've worked very hard to get there. Anyway, I also mentioned I was taking MMS drops now. Have not been able to get very far with them due to more intense detoxing. Didn't know if it was due to the ear insufflating, MMS, or both. Decided to take the weekend off taking the MMS drops, but continued with the ear insufflating. By the second day, my ears started draining and draining like somebody had opend up the flood gates. I couldn't believe it! Thought I was all past that. Went back on the MMS drops (was only off them for the 2 days), and can you believe the drainage has now stopped! I had thought it might have played a part in cleaning up the drainage, but not I KNOW for sure. So if any want to give ear insufflating (it's a good thing to do) a try, might want to also start taking the MMS drops (even 1 drop a day works wonders) to assist your success with the ear insufflating. Thougth some might be interested in this little tidbit. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Hi Wess, I'm not really sure. What I do know is Carol Ann has been at ear insufflating longer than I and continually had drainage. I think both our drainage stopped when we started using the MMS. I'd like to think the ozone makes the MMS even more effective at mopping up whatever it is stirring up. I'm tired of not having a brain and am starting to get some improvement there, but not total recovery. It feels like I've stirred up a cesspool of junk in my head. In some ways, I've felt more ditzy, but then there will be a clearing of the mind. Doesn't that sound profound....a clearing of the mind!? lol Who knows? Maybe one day I'll be clear headed permanently, while others my age will start to lose it. <chuckle> I'll have to turn them on to ozone. I sometimes wonder if the MMS drops are helping more with my brain than even the ozone. I really can't tell, but something is working. What I do know is when I first started with the ear insufflatin, doing only 1 minute and then slowly increasing, my mind came alive, but the more I increased the length of time, the more it just felt like a whole lot of gunk was being stirred up and it no longer was clear all the time. I've also experienced more acheiness, ick, and general detoxing since I've increased the length of time insufflating & taking the MMS drops. But again that lets up off and on so I do feel I am accomplishing something. Time will tell. My routine is to do 30 minutes of ear insufflating as soon as I get up then put the coffee on and start my day. The insufflating wakes me up and jumpstarts my being. It gives me energy, and I like that. Then in the afternoon I will do 30 minutes of vaginal insufflating, followed with the MMS in the evening. I feel like I'm pretty well covered with oxygen. Now talking about diet, lifestyle, & chemical polluting. I don't smoke, drink (except for an occasion Christmas eggnog drink), or take drugs. I need to change my diet, tho, because I know I have a wheat intollerance and just have not cleaned up my act yet. I want to do the whole gluten free diet for a year or two and see what happens. Haven't done it yet, tho. What I have noticed over the years following people's stories about ear insufflating is the less you do, the less drainage. Say once somebody gets cleaned out (however long that takes) then will do 5 minutes a few times a week, won't have drainage; but when they increase it, the drainage starts up, so I don't know if one truly EVER gets rid of it permenantly. Just do it, Wess. What do you have to lose? Gail -- In oxyplus , " wes pate " <wlpate@...> wrote: > > hi gail, that sounds good i think... however, i have sort of avoided the ear insufflated because of the stories i've read about the horendous drainage... i have done some but not long enough to get anything moving. but i wonder.... do you think that the mms stopping the drainage is a good thing just because the drainage stopped.... or do you think maybe the ears might really need to drain to get rid of that stuff.. or is the mms carrying it off somehow where the ears don't need to drain... or is it just sitting there now.. makes one wonder how much of that stuff can there be to drain to. i know you've been at this for a long time. have you changed your diet, lifestyle etc to avoid chemically polluting your body. i know i want to and try but find it almost impossible. don't mean to grill you just some things i've wondered about. > > wes > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 > > i think i'll just hang with the mms for a little while longer before starting on the ozone again. i'm at the max dose for my weight 3-4 times a day so i'm hoping to see some improvments soon. the biggest improvment i've noticed is my lungs are ......... well i can breath deeper and cleaner... just feels much better and really hadn't noticed any problems before so that's a nice unexpected improvment. > > wes >================================= Hi Wes, Wow! I think that's really awesome. Good for you, Wes! And I think it's wise to just do one protocol at a time then you really know what is doing what. It's just that it's taken me so long to build up to the ozone that I don't want to give it up, and I trust it. I think I could do it for the rest of my life and it wouldn't hurt me. The jury is still out for me on the MMS. I'm just not sure that could be an all lifetime thing. Anyway, I, too, have noticed an improvement with my breathing on the MMS. Others have also mentioned it, so that seems to be a consistant benefit of it. I've been pondering your quiestion about if I had changed my lifestyle as in cleaning it up, paraphased, ofcourse. When I fisrt got into alternative healing, I noticed people would say the Beck protocol (that's one of the first things I tried) would cure you of this or that. Others state Rifling will do the job. Then, ofcourse, there's the ozone. For the EFTer, that seems to be what they stress. But none of it has healed me, and Lord knows I've given it a fair shot, so I'm thinking I really need to get off the gluten. When I examine people's testimoies praising whatever protocol they've use, they usually also talk about a change in theie dietary habits as well. That's probably one of the most effective protocols that contibuted to their healing, I'm thinking. Anyway, your question has gotten me to thinking about how important that would be. Again, good going, Wes. Gail ok, I'm not done talking. Thought of something else. Did you mention in one of your posts, you thought there might be a possibility of lymes with you? If so, ear insufflating would probably really benefit you. Remember the post somebody wrote in thanking Sherr-Lee for her suggestion of aggressively pursuing ear insufflating for his lymes because he had taken her advice and gotten some really good results. Again, just thinking out loud. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 > > as you can see i do alot of wondering...lol > Well, all that 'wondering' could be delaying starting! Just wondering myself. gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Hi , Well, I think it might be helpful. Carol Ann mentioned taking milk thistle to help relieve some of the burden on her liver. Probably smart. Also, most will agree to do all you can do to keep the bowels open as well as drinking plenty of water to aid in the detoxing. But many have found simply using activated charcoal and clay works wonders in aiding any detoxing. It would probably be first on your list to consider. I don't think these things actually 'release' the toxins. I think they help mop up what the ozone is stirring up, which would be the toxins. In your case, it sounds like the sauna and colonics were helping eliminate the toxins that were being releases from doing whatever protocol you were doing to detox the heavy metals. It's always possible to reabsorb whatever has been stirred up and not eliminated. My brain fog was already there, but the insufflation is making it more noticable at times, while other times there is actually a lifting, so your theary could very well apply. Maybe I need to hit the charcoal. Be really careful with the colonics. Don't make them a regualar thing, and make sure you have healed first before starting any again would be my advice. Not that you asked me, but there are so many other successful ways to clean the colon. I'd much rather not do the colonics. Take care, Gail -- In oxyplus , Eagle <jacobadler123@...> wrote: > > Hi Gail, > > This is a question for you and the rest of the list from somoene who's learning about ozone. When you're doing protocols like ear insulfating, is it important to do some form of elimination therapy to release the toxins? A few months back, I was doing some heavy metal detox and the doc insisted that I follow up within 48 hours of each session with an infrared sauna and a colonic, as the toxins could be partly re-absorbed if precations weren't taken to make sure that proper elimination took place to get it all out. Could that be what may perpetuate any brain fog or other side effects? > > As a side note, I had to take a break from the treatments as they found that I had adrenal issues that needed to be dealt with first and I also developed inguinal hernias (from over exertion on our house issues) and couldn't do any colonics until that was resolved. > > Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Oh, Wess. Please be careful. I think it takes 2-3 weeks before stuff starts to open up and drain, when first starting ozone insufflation. When I first started, nothing happened, so I increased it to 15 minutes 3 Xs daily. And when the drainage & swelling finally started, I got into big trouble...enough to scare me off for years before giving it another try. The drainage will start in about a few weeks, but sooner it seems if you've already done ozone. But maybe it won't with the MMS. Keep us posted. Good going! Gail -- In oxyplus , " wes pate " <wlpate@...> wrote: > > LOL... hi gail :-) > i guess there's no time like the present..huh. > i'm gunna start later this eve. i figure it's gunna take awhile to get it going anyway. i have done it as long as an hr at a time p/ear for a week or so without any thing note worthy. > stuff must be like cement in there. we'll see what happens. > > wes > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 On 10/18/2007, oxyplus (oxyplus ) wrote: > I can say that I too was very surprised by the reduction in die off > exiting the body via the ears. In my case, it WAS the ears and scalp. > What I did do was to begin dropping Milk Thistle capsules because I > felt it would help ease the burden of the liver having to process the > overload. Hmmm... I'm wondering if the reduction in herx symptoms is because the MMS kills the candida faster than the ozone? Maybe candida - and other bugs - give off toxins as part of the process of 'fighting to stay alive'? If so, then if MMS killed it much quicker than ozone, it stands to reason there would be less herx... Interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 > Hi Gail, I'm not Gail - but thats never stopped me from replying before... > When you're doing protocols like ear insulfating, is it important to > do some form of elimination therapy to release the toxins? Only if you want to dramatically reduce the stress on the body and the herx symptoms you may be experiencing... > A few months back, I was doing some heavy metal detox and the doc > insisted that I follow up within 48 hours of each session with an > infrared sauna and a colonic, as the toxins could be partly > re-absorbed if precations weren't taken to make sure that proper > elimination took place to get it all out. Could that be what may > perpetuate any brain fog or other side effects? Absolutely... But I wouldn't recommend colonics. You should reserve those for emergencies - extreme constipation, etc. You're much better off using whole-system approaches to cleansing the digestive tract. I like Dr. Schulze's formula #1, with homozon, vit c and/or magnesium as fast acting assisters. Regardless, the primary goal is to keep the bowels moving. Then, lots of clay/charcoal slurries to pull and bind the toxins (clay for metals and similar substances, charcoal for chemical toxins and related). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 > > Hi Gail, Have had my own reservations re: cleanliness and other people's pathogens. ======================= Bingo! I wasn't going to mention it, but will now that you brought it up. When I first started getting colonics (recommended by a nutritionist I was seeing at the time), it was by a woman that practiced various alternative healing techniques of different sorts, one of which was colonics. I don't know that she had any medical background perse. However, my cousins had been going to her for years, and I followed suit with them once it was recommended to me by the nutritionist I was seeing. He even used the same woman himself and always recommended her to his clients. My concern was transmiting any sexual diseases via the colonic. Some people think I 'm just being paranoid, but it's the way I feel. I think you should always make sure they have disposable attachments that are inserted into the rectum. Come on, it's the age of the times we're living in. She (the woman giving the colonic) assured me everything was on the up and up, and that she practiced the most sterilized methods available. I always had an uneasy feeling. Finally quit. Now get this. We live a a relatively small (although it is certainly growing) mountain town where people generally know each other. There was a man I use to buy vitamins from in my area that I always wondered if he had AIDS. He was into various alternative healing things himself. He never mentioned it, & it was only a 'feeling' I had. Well, he ended up getting quite sick, and ended up taking his own life. Suicide. My cousin and I were talking about him because she had thought the same thing; and, infact, found out he did have it. I asked her how she found out. Said he had wanted to go to the same woman (whom has now become a personal friend of my cousin) that we had gotten our colonics through. And when he was seeing about getting a colonic from her, he told her he was HIV+. She then refused to give him any colonics. To me that was understandable, but my point is what if he hadn't have told her, or what if somebody has something and they don't even know it? I just think there are risks with colonics that I don't want to take. Other methods of cleansing the colon is the aloe vera I mentioned to Steph. Homozon is like taking an 'oral' colonic withouth any risk factors. Brown rice, oat brand are also helpful as well as acidophilus, wheatgrass or other greens. Psyllium seed, charcoal/clay. Even plain ol' apple juice. People are tending to get kind of lazy when it comes to eating bulk in their diets and are suffering the consequences for it. The above mentioned are some good methods of cleansing the colon of which I would put homozon and aloe vera at the top of the list. Oh, also an occasion coffee enema is very beneficial. It's also helps stimulate the liver to excrete toxins. I wouldn't do it as a way of life, tho, for the reasons I've already mentioned. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 > Gail, I ALWAYS do my OWN colonics for the very reasons you guys are > concerned about. I find that I can get an entire water bag into myself > before I burst LOL. Thats not a colonic, thats an enema... there is a difference, you know. > I also have found that homozon is in NO WAY as good as a colonic. I > did colonics after using homozon for a week and it was unbeleivable > what came out that was stuck to the sides of my colon that the > homozon did not TOUCH. Since you already demonstrated that you did not use it properly, this is in no way a failing of the homozon... > And again remember, long term homozon use BURNS some people beyond > tolerance. Please stop spreading false information Steph. There is absolutely nothing in homozon that can 'burn' you or your colon. If it caused a burning sensation, it was from whatever toxins were being stirred up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 > Gail, I ALWAYS do my OWN colonics for the very reasons you guys are > concerned about. I find that I can get an entire water bag into myself > before I burst LOL. Thats not a colonic, thats an enema... there is a difference, you know. > I also have found that homozon is in NO WAY as good as a colonic. I > did colonics after using homozon for a week and it was unbeleivable > what came out that was stuck to the sides of my colon that the > homozon did not TOUCH. Since you already demonstrated that you did not use it properly, this is in no way a failing of the homozon... > And again remember, long term homozon use BURNS some people beyond > tolerance. Please stop spreading false information Steph. There is absolutely nothing in homozon that can 'burn' you or your colon. If it caused a burning sensation, it was from whatever toxins were being stirred up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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