Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 hi steph, i don't know much about the potassium but i had a feeling that you might feel a little ill after taking the lugols. i think you should come to an understanding that there isn't anyway around feeling bad before getting well ( herx ?). you have so much to deal with. lugols iodine doesn't mess around. when you take it, it starts killing stuff as soon as it enters your mouth. i may be wrong but i think it maid you feel bad because of all the critters it was killing...when you start killing critters i don't see how you can keep from feeling bad. maybe there is something you can take to counter the effects of potassium. now steph.... your killing me here..lol. i like the idea of that diet you talked about on another post, which is probably pretty close to what i was going to suggest next. i've had dogs in the past that developed skin problems as in demodex mange.. this is caused by a weakened immune system for whatever reason. vet's say it's hereditary and give you poison to dip them in. my experience is that rarely that works as the poison further weakens the dog. i ran across some info that essentially said to get rid of the demodex which is a bunch of mites that feed off of yeast you have to take away thier food.... the yeast. most dog foods are mostly corn or grain. anyway to cure demodex you take the dog off of commercial dog food and feed a raw meat diet... sometimes it takes awhile but has worked for me 100% of the time. so i wonder as i don't know much about this candida is exactly what does it feed on... can the source of it's food be known and eliminated from you diet. i saw a raw food video last year where they took approx 30 people that had diabeties... took them to a health camp.. resort of some sort out in the middle of nowhere. for 30 days they ate nothing but raw fruit and vegetables ( organic ).. the first couple of weeks they were exhibiting symtoms of drug addicts.. very hostile, wanting to quit, screaming, crying, really bad... about week three they started getting better and most were already off of insulin, at the end all were off of injections, most had lost lots of weight as most were over weight in the beginning. i wonder if this would work for you and other candida sufferers. no bread, no sugar, no dips, no chips, no alcohol... just raw fruits and vegetables & water. wes :-) Potassium and adrenals I discovered awhile back when I was taking a lot of potassium which was mixed in a magnesium product I was taking, that when you have low adrenals, potassium suppresses them even more. As a consequence of that, for a long time I did not get much sleep (six months) and felt like someone was chocking me when I would lay down and felt a nasty pressure on my heart and like the blood was putting pressure on my face. It was a horrible feeling. Finally, just in time to save myself I discovered it was the potassium causing the problem because I had taken too much unkowingly. Yesterday I cautiously took ONE SWALLOW of the 6 drops of lugols in a glass of water. I did not feel good after I drank the swallow so I waited a few hours. I seemed to recover by noon so I mixed one drop of lugals in a cup of water and drank all of it. BIG MISTAKE. I am not allergic to iodine, or at least I never was before I got so sick. But I know I can never take it again as recovery was slow and the reaction was awful. I had the same reaction only much worse as I was having to too much potassium. I notice that the bottle says potassium iodide. Does this mean that the iodine has potassium added or is iodine a type of postassium or what? I did not expect to react that way at all. It has been 24 hours since I took it and I still have a nausiating headache and pain in my neck glands. I am trying to figure out what happened here with the iodine. Maybe someone on here knows a little bit about iodine and can help me figure this out. Also I would like to know if someone here knows why and how potassium suppresses adrenals??? Or did I misunderstand something I read about this awhile back? Is there any way to build up extremely low adrenals without taking cow adrenals? Is magnetic therapy for that safe, does anyone know? I have some very good DVDs about magnetic therapy but there is so much to remember and I am not sure I trust this since it is not talked about very much. The two people that did the DVD are both deceased and I have to wonder if they died from too much exposure to magnets. Anyway, I have to say they are some of the most interesting DVDs I have ever seen. I am just scared of the idea because there are no long term studies that I have heard about concerning this. Anyone on here familiar with magnetic therapy? Am wanting to use it to help my adrenals, but scared of screwing up and making things worse. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 hi steph, i don't know much about the potassium but i had a feeling that you might feel a little ill after taking the lugols. i think you should come to an understanding that there isn't anyway around feeling bad before getting well ( herx ?). you have so much to deal with. lugols iodine doesn't mess around. when you take it, it starts killing stuff as soon as it enters your mouth. i may be wrong but i think it maid you feel bad because of all the critters it was killing...when you start killing critters i don't see how you can keep from feeling bad. maybe there is something you can take to counter the effects of potassium. now steph.... your killing me here..lol. i like the idea of that diet you talked about on another post, which is probably pretty close to what i was going to suggest next. i've had dogs in the past that developed skin problems as in demodex mange.. this is caused by a weakened immune system for whatever reason. vet's say it's hereditary and give you poison to dip them in. my experience is that rarely that works as the poison further weakens the dog. i ran across some info that essentially said to get rid of the demodex which is a bunch of mites that feed off of yeast you have to take away thier food.... the yeast. most dog foods are mostly corn or grain. anyway to cure demodex you take the dog off of commercial dog food and feed a raw meat diet... sometimes it takes awhile but has worked for me 100% of the time. so i wonder as i don't know much about this candida is exactly what does it feed on... can the source of it's food be known and eliminated from you diet. i saw a raw food video last year where they took approx 30 people that had diabeties... took them to a health camp.. resort of some sort out in the middle of nowhere. for 30 days they ate nothing but raw fruit and vegetables ( organic ).. the first couple of weeks they were exhibiting symtoms of drug addicts.. very hostile, wanting to quit, screaming, crying, really bad... about week three they started getting better and most were already off of insulin, at the end all were off of injections, most had lost lots of weight as most were over weight in the beginning. i wonder if this would work for you and other candida sufferers. no bread, no sugar, no dips, no chips, no alcohol... just raw fruits and vegetables & water. wes :-) Potassium and adrenals I discovered awhile back when I was taking a lot of potassium which was mixed in a magnesium product I was taking, that when you have low adrenals, potassium suppresses them even more. As a consequence of that, for a long time I did not get much sleep (six months) and felt like someone was chocking me when I would lay down and felt a nasty pressure on my heart and like the blood was putting pressure on my face. It was a horrible feeling. Finally, just in time to save myself I discovered it was the potassium causing the problem because I had taken too much unkowingly. Yesterday I cautiously took ONE SWALLOW of the 6 drops of lugols in a glass of water. I did not feel good after I drank the swallow so I waited a few hours. I seemed to recover by noon so I mixed one drop of lugals in a cup of water and drank all of it. BIG MISTAKE. I am not allergic to iodine, or at least I never was before I got so sick. But I know I can never take it again as recovery was slow and the reaction was awful. I had the same reaction only much worse as I was having to too much potassium. I notice that the bottle says potassium iodide. Does this mean that the iodine has potassium added or is iodine a type of postassium or what? I did not expect to react that way at all. It has been 24 hours since I took it and I still have a nausiating headache and pain in my neck glands. I am trying to figure out what happened here with the iodine. Maybe someone on here knows a little bit about iodine and can help me figure this out. Also I would like to know if someone here knows why and how potassium suppresses adrenals??? Or did I misunderstand something I read about this awhile back? Is there any way to build up extremely low adrenals without taking cow adrenals? Is magnetic therapy for that safe, does anyone know? I have some very good DVDs about magnetic therapy but there is so much to remember and I am not sure I trust this since it is not talked about very much. The two people that did the DVD are both deceased and I have to wonder if they died from too much exposure to magnets. Anyway, I have to say they are some of the most interesting DVDs I have ever seen. I am just scared of the idea because there are no long term studies that I have heard about concerning this. Anyone on here familiar with magnetic therapy? Am wanting to use it to help my adrenals, but scared of screwing up and making things worse. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Thankyou bill. I did do a saliva test for adrenals which was the one that my health care worker said was the worst she had ever seen. But she gave me no help. I take planty of sea salt for that reason even though someone else advised me against doing so. I also am taking all the vitamins I know of that help the adrenals but I am guessing they are too worn out form long term illness and deficiencies. I will check out the links you sent if my web tv will click onto them. I have those test results on the adrenals but don't recall if it said on the backside what to do. Some of various tests I have taken do give suggestions for treatment. I will have to check through my folder and see what it said to do if anything. All I recall seeing in the results were, depressed, depressed and depressed. What ever all that means. I am going to go look it up again and get back to you. It is probably something I need to fix before I can get well??? The swelling and pain I had in my neck was not my thyroid. All thyroid tests I took in the past were always normal but have not taken one in the last three years or so. The swelling and lumps were on both sides of my neck where the glands are as in where you get mumps. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Thankyou bill. I did do a saliva test for adrenals which was the one that my health care worker said was the worst she had ever seen. But she gave me no help. I take planty of sea salt for that reason even though someone else advised me against doing so. I also am taking all the vitamins I know of that help the adrenals but I am guessing they are too worn out form long term illness and deficiencies. I will check out the links you sent if my web tv will click onto them. I have those test results on the adrenals but don't recall if it said on the backside what to do. Some of various tests I have taken do give suggestions for treatment. I will have to check through my folder and see what it said to do if anything. All I recall seeing in the results were, depressed, depressed and depressed. What ever all that means. I am going to go look it up again and get back to you. It is probably something I need to fix before I can get well??? The swelling and pain I had in my neck was not my thyroid. All thyroid tests I took in the past were always normal but have not taken one in the last three years or so. The swelling and lumps were on both sides of my neck where the glands are as in where you get mumps. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 On 10/6/2007, oxyplus (oxyplus ) wrote: > I also am taking all the vitamins I know of that help the adrenals > but I am guessing they are too worn out form long term illness and > deficiencies. Steph - at this point, I think it would be good to take a step back, and do the following: Make a list of EVERYTHING you are taking currently. Not just in general, but in DETAIL: brand name, amount, frequency. Write it up in an email and send it to the list. It is quite possible that something you are taking is part of the problem, and that may jump out at someone here (there are some very knowledgeable people here, and I don't mean me)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Morning Simon, >> At 12:58 AM 10/7/2007, you wrote: >It is quite possible that something you are taking is part of the >problem, and that may jump out at someone here (there are some very >knowledgeable people here, and I don't mean me)... Along these same lines of thinking, ........... in the great book, " Never be Sick Again " by Francis, ( mostly about body chemistry ) States that........ One Whiff of some things will make some people Deathly Sick. I recommend this book to all friends and a few enemies, usually with a " Money Back Guarantee " . Wayne ===================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Simon, everything I put in my mouth just about, makes me sick. As far as making a list of everything I am taking it would take me all day LOL LOL. But I will try. I don't take everything every day because I couldn't, so some things are just occasional. Am I supposed to include food suppliments such as carrot powders etc..? I have stopped EVERYTHING at some time or another to find an item that was making me sick. However, stopping everything did not help my condition any. Later with the list. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Also Simon, I think people are about sick of hearing from me. There are lots of people on here that are sick too and I am starting to feel like a really bad complainer. I don't mean to be, I just wish I knew what to do that would get me somewhere. Something I have not already tried. I feel so hopeless and stuck. I am thinking I need more diagnostic work as it seems I havn't gotton at the root of the problem. Other people seem to get rid of their candida, but dispite the fact that I have taken more than most people for longer and havn't gotton anywhere gives me the notion that there is something else wrong that might be worse than the candida if that is possible. Locally it is difficult to find a place within reasonable driving distance for lab. work. Also I don't have a real Dr. of any kind to work with on this. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I have learned one important thing from my years in this group and it is all the supplements in the world will not help you until you clean out your body. I have just started on Dr. s holy tea. It will clean out your intestines for sure and we know that years of buildup is in the colon. It is an MLM but it is a great product. If anyone is interested email me offlist at misserma53@.... Erma ectopistes@... wrote: Simon, everything I put in my mouth just about, makes me sick. As far as making a list of everything I am taking it would take me all day LOL LOL. But I will try. I don't take everything every day because I couldn't, so some things are just occasional. Am I supposed to include food suppliments such as carrot powders etc..? I have stopped EVERYTHING at some time or another to find an item that was making me sick. However, stopping everything did not help my condition any. Later with the list. Steph --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 > Am I supposed to include food suppliments such as carrot powders > etc..? If you want to get well, I would say so, yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 > Am I supposed to include food suppliments such as carrot powders > etc..? If you want to get well, I would say so, yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 > Also Simon, I think people are about sick of hearing from me. There > are lots of people on here that are sick too and I am starting to feel > like a really bad complainer. I don't mean to be, I just wish I knew > what to do that would get me somewhere. Something I have not already > tried. I feel so hopeless and stuck. I am thinking I need more > diagnostic work as it seems I havn't gotton at the root of the > problem. I wouldn't worry about 'people being sick of hearing from you' - if it happens, we will probably just stop responding. You are trying - trying more than anyone I've ever seen, assuming you are being truthful (and no reason to believe you aren't) - that is what mnatters most in my eyes... But I'll say it again, but in another way... Think back... think back to where you were when you started on this quest for health. Remember what your knowledge level was - probably a lot less than what it is now, am I right? You have tried so many things, that you may have forgotten more things that youv'e tried than what you remember... you may or may not have used them correctly. You may or may not have used the rigvht form, or brand - brand can mean the difference between something working, and not working, because some brands of products - herbs, what have you - are worthless, and some can save your life. Anyway, now that you have reached this level of knowledge, I think the wisest thing you could do would be to take a step back... STOP doing all of the powders, drinks, pills and what have you. Fats for a couple of days, if necessary, or just eat minimally... During this time, write down everything you're taking now, as I suggested earlier... put it in order of quantity/frequency, but include everything that you are taking at least once a week. Also, write down all of the things you have tried but dropped as 'not working for me'... this one will be harder, I'm sure, but just do your best. Maybe something will jump out at *you* during this process - and/or maybe something will jump out at someone here... but at a minimum, I really, think a total re-evaluation is in order... you're not only too close to the problem, you're also too close to the doctor doing the treating (yourself)... Anyway, that sbout the only other suggestion I have for you. I truly hope you will find peace and a resolution to your health problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 On 10/8/2007, oxyplus (oxyplus ) wrote: > STOP doing all of the powders, drinks, pills and what have you. Fats > for a couple of days, if necessary, or just eat minimally... That should have read: 'Fast for a couple of days'... And sorry for the dupes on my previous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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