Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Once again, thank you for your information. I have not been able to control my diabetes. You are a blessing. jp > Management of metabolic disorders: Diabetes mellitus (mailnly the > secondary complications of the disease) > > Nephropathy or kidney disease is one of the dangerous secondary > complications induced by diabetes. In an animal model study, it was > observed that dietary curcumin brought about significant inhibition in > the progression of renal lesions. Curcumin fed at 0.5% level in the diet > to streptozotocin-induced diabetic rats for eight weeks lessened renal > damage and preserved the integrity and functions of the kidneys. Kidney > damage was assessed by the amount of proteins excreted in the urine and > the extent of leaching of renal tubular enzymes. The integrity of the > kidney was assessed by measuring the activities of several key enzymes > of the kidney tissues including glucose-6-phosphatase, lactic > dehydrogenase, ATPases and other enzymes which are normally active in > the various metabolic pathways (carbohydrate metabolism, polyol > pathway). Membrane integrity was assessed by determining the ratio > PUFA/SFA (Polyunsaturated fatty acids to saturated fatty acids). The > results were corroborated by histological examination of the relevant > sections of the kidneys. The authors inferred that the beneficial > effects of dietary curcumin on diabetic nephropathy is probably mediated > through the hypolipidemic effects of curcumin. > > Age-related cataractogenesis is a significant health problem worldwide > and is also commonly found in diabetics. Oxidative stress has been > suggested to be a common underlying mechanism of the formation of > cataracts. If the antioxidant defenses of the ocular lens is enhanced, > the formation of cataracts is delayed or prevented. A study was designed > to test the efficacy of in preventing cataractogenesis in an in vitro > rat model. Rats were maintained on a standard diet for for 2 weeks, > after which they were given a daily dose of corn oil alone or with 75 mg > curcumin/kg body weight in corn oil for 14 days. Their lenses were > removed and cultured for 72 hours in vitro in.the presence or absence of > 100 microM of 4-hydroxy-2-nonenal, which is a highly electrophilic > product of lipid peroxidation. The results of these studies showed that > 4-HNE caused cultured lenses to become opaque, as indicated by the > measurements of transmitted light intensity. However, the lenses from > curcumin-treated rats were much more resistant to 4-HNE-induced > opacification than were lenses from control animals fed curcumin-free > diet. Curcumin treatment was found to cause a significant induction of > the glutathione S-transferase (GST) isozyme rGST8-8 in rat lens > epithelium. > > This enzyme is known to preferentially utilize 4-HNE. The authors > suggest that the protective effect of curcumin may be mediated through > the induction of this GST isozyme and that curcumin may be an effective > protective agent against cataract formation induced by lipid peroxidation. > Increased oxidative stress and high serum glucose levels have been > postulated to contribute significantly to the accelerated accumulation > of advanced glycation end products (AGEs) in diabetics. This results in > cross-linking of collagen and the progression of the degenerative > secondary complications of diabetes. Curcumin (200 mg/kg body wt, > administered orally) was found to reduce the level of AGEs and the > cross-linking of collagen in diabetic rats. The oxidative stress in > diabetic rats was observed to reduce significantly on curcumin > administration. Similarly, the accumulation of lipid peroxidation > products in serum of diabetic rats was reduced significantly by > curcumin. Accelerated accumulation of AGE-collagen and extensive > cross-linking of collagen in the tail tendon and skin of diabetic > animals was also prevented to a greater extent by curcumin treatment. > The preventive effect of curcumin on the advanced glycation and > cross-linking of collagen was more pronounced than its therapeutic > effect. This study confirmed the significance of free radicals in the > accumulation of AGEs and cross-linking of collagen in diabetes and > validated the use of curcumin for the inhibition of AGE-induced > complications of diabetes mellitus. > > Hyperlipidemia is often associated with diabetes and could induce > cardiovascular problems. In earlier studies, curcumin was proven to be > an effective hypolipidemic agent 82 . One study validated the role of > dietary curcumin in maintaining healthy serum cholesterol levels in > diabetic rats. Streptozotocin-induced diabetic rats were maintained on > 0.5% curcumin containing diet for 8 weeks. It was observed that the > LDL-VLDL fraction and the serum levels of triglycerides and > phospholipids was reduced by dietary curcumin in diabetic rats. In a > parallel study employing a high cholesterol diet for the diabetic rats, > curcumin exhibited lowering of cholesterol and phospholipid in treated > animals as compared to curcumin-free controls. Liver cholesterol, > triglycerides and phospholipid elevated under diabetic conditions were > lowered by dietary curcumin, in both studies. Renal cholesterol and > triglycerides elevated in diabetic rats, were similarly lowered by the > curcumin in the diet. The authors observed that the enzyme activity of > liver cholesterol-7a-hydroxylase was markedly higher in curcumin fed > diabetic animals. This suggests that curcumin induces a higher rate of > cholesterol catabolism. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 JP, Correct if I'm wrong, but don't you have a chi machine? If so, has it helped any with controling your diabetes or am I thinking of somebody else? gail -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@...> wrote: > > Once again, thank you for your information. > I have not been able to control my diabetes. > You are a blessing. > jp > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Yes, JP. It is the foot swinging machine. I bought one for my husband, but he never used it for years. I finally packed it away. For some reason I got it out again, and this time he started using it without any nudging from me. At one time, somebody posted curing their neuropathy by using the chi machine 15 minutes 3 X's daily. My husband has neuropathy and will often complain walking (which is suggested for a heart patient) will hurt his feet so he started using the Chi machine. He does it almost every day but sometime will skip, but he only does it between 5-15 minutes and only once daily. Rarely he will do it twice in one day. Just whatever he feels like but nothing set in stone. Depending on what he eats, his sugar runs anywhere from 80something to low 100s. And even cheating big time over the holidays his sugar did not go past 190. That's the highest it's been where has before it was rare he ever got it under 200 and sometimes it would be way out of control. Something to think about anyway. All it takes is using it and eating better. I know the later is harder for the diabetic than the former. <smile> Do take care! Gail -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@...> wrote: > > Is that the foot swinging machine? If so, I have one, but > do not use it currently. Let me know. > Thanks, Gail. > jp > > > > > > JP, Correct if I'm wrong, but don't you have a chi machine? If so, has > > it helped any with controling your diabetes or am I thinking of > > somebody else? gail > > > > -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@> wrote: > >> > >> Once again, thank you for your information. > >> I have not been able to control my diabetes. > >> You are a blessing. > >> jp > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list > > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are > > a researcher or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Hi JP, I want to talk seriously with you a little because this really is serious. There are so many qualities in my husband that I admire, but taking care of himself is not one. I have a feeling you might also need some help in caring for yourself. For somebody who is so conscientious about others and will extent himself for the betterment of his fellow man, not accepting mediocre but working so hard to bring out the best in others, he sucks at taking care of himself. There is an addiction with the diabetic when it comes to sugar. Before he came down with it, he was never a sugar person. Always preferred good food. Now he craves it, whether it be sugar, patatoes, or white bread. Not only that, but because he always extended himself to others, he would so often just grab a cookie or coke on the run and keep going. This is a vicious cycle for the diabetic trying to work and meet the needs of others. You're caught in a rat race, but you pay for it with your health and sometimes even with your life. I remember watching the Dr. Phil show where he had is wife talking to the women in the audience about taking care of themself. One woman spoke up and said she felt quilty if she put herself first because her kids and husband needed so much that she thought it wasn't fair to put herself first. I'll never forget what Dr. Phil's wife replied to her. She said, " How fair is it to your husband and children if they have to grow up without a mother and wife? " She then went on to say how her mother was a lot like this woman always giving out to others, but neglecting herself, and she did of a heart attack at the age of 58 (not for sure about the age, might be 59, but was in the fifites). Once when we were at the cardiologist's office, he made the comment to my husband. " It'll only get worse. " Now he said this to a man (my husband) who has had two heart attacks, a stint put in, quadruple bypass surgery, and has neuropathy. I'll never forget the moment he said that. However, I beg to differ. He said that based on what he has seen in his practice. This really is a serious matter. But what he should have said that I think is more correct is, " It'll only get worse IF YOU DON'T CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE! Here are some simple suggestions that I would like to make to you as living with somebody who has had diabtetes for years and understand some of the mental traps. First of all, know you are addicted to the sugar. Rather than tell youself to cut it all out (although that would be great if you could) because it is so overwhelming a simple thing would be to just take baby steps. Instead, if you feel you have to have something sweet, choose some dark chocolate. Not brownies or snickers bars, but some real dark chocolate. It is actually good for the heart. Here is a really good multiple vitamin/mineral/antioxidant/green super food/ & digestive aids all in one pill that I give to my husband. I have not found any better formula anywhere. He is not the kind that will take a bunch of pills so this covers soooooo much and is easy to take. It's called " Formula #3 " and you can get it at: Support 4 Health, www.support4health.com. Phone # 1-800-977-0084. A bottle of 90 (you take 3 a day) will cost you around $20. If you buy 4 bottles at once, it will run a little under $17 a bottle. The easiest way to take them is a couple in the morning and one when in the evening. This will cover just about all your nutritional needs. I also give my husband some flax or omega 3 capsule,and that does it. There's another thing I'd like to mention because I don't think a lot of people know about it or it's not often stessed as being important. Look into adrenal fatigue. When somebody is under constant stress, as one is when dealing with a chronic illness, their adrenals feel the brunt of the stress. Raw bovine adrenals can easily be purchased over the net to help restore the adrenals. One of the biggest complaints when one suffers from that is fatigue. Take some kind of fiber daily. Cholesterol binds to the fiber and is then eliminated through the bowels. A simple preventive measure to help prevent heart problems. Any kind of exercise you can do will help to reduce your glucose levels. The chi machine is kind of like the Reader's Digest version of exercise. A lot is accomplished in a very little amount of time. I think 15 minutes is suppose to be equivelent to 90 minutes of walking as far as cellular oxidation. Something like that. That plus the vitamins, fish oil, & fiber is really pretty basic. Try and make better food choices one food at a time. I hope I am not coming across as being pushy. These are just some very simple steps you can take to get your diabetes under control, and it all starts with the sugar. When your sugar is running as high as yours has been, it's like trying to pump blood through sand. Things get very sluggish. The constant elevation of sugar is what causes the nerves to die off causing neuropathy. Everything works together, but it can all be reversed by getting the sugar under control. Take care, gail -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@...> wrote: > > This year my blood sugar has run higher, particularly when > under stress and/or sick, even up to the mid-300's, and I have > really felt bad, like a dead man walking at times. Well, I'll start > walking while lying down with the Chi. > jp > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 A serious note deserves a serious response: I used to consume too much sugar, years ago, having spent my formative years in a house that was both my home and, attached, a small grocery store - meaning I could get sodas, ice cream, candy any time, and I don't remember being told no by my mom who ran the store. Nowdays, I eat fairly well, although bread or potatoes are a part of my diet, not at home but when eating fast food, which is too much. The primary thing that helps my blood sugar level is activity, so the Chi should help there. Adrenal stress - there's the kicker because I have been burned out for about 30 years, unbelievable but true. There is a lot of stress because my mom, who has Lupus, has been affected to the point where it affects her mind, and she has turned against my wife in ways that really hurts me. There are other stresses that I will not name. Now 53, I was about dead 4 years ago, with triglycerides over 2000, elevated liver enzymes, blood sugar over 200 fasting,etc., but with nutrition and diet changes, have bounced back. The doctor thinks I have a genetic weakness in digesting fats. I also have many food allergies, including gluten and yeasts. When on a severely limited carb diet, my blood sugar came down fast, and then....I got shingles, a mild case but still discouraging. Since then, I seem to be more subject to viruses, colds, flu. The normally suggested things for diabetes have never helped me, and believe me, I have tried them ALL. The most response was with Bernstein's plan of very low carbs, evening primrose oil, and alpha lipoic acid. I'm now on two blood sugar medicines and a pill for blood pressure, so I'm on the downward slope. I'll let you know what happens but it's not too encouraging at this point. jp > Hi JP, > > I want to talk seriously with you a little because this really is > serious. > > There are so many qualities in my husband that I admire, but taking > care of himself is not one. I have a feeling you might also need > some help in caring for yourself. For somebody who is so > conscientious about others and will extent himself for the betterment > of his fellow man, not accepting mediocre but working so hard to > bring out the best in others, he sucks at taking care of himself. > > There is an addiction with the diabetic when it comes to sugar. > Before he came down with it, he was never a sugar person. Always > preferred good food. Now he craves it, whether it be sugar, > patatoes, or white bread. Not only that, but because he always > extended himself to others, he would so often just grab a cookie or > coke on the run and keep going. This is a vicious cycle for the > diabetic trying to work and meet the needs of others. You're caught > in a rat race, but you pay for it with your health and sometimes even > with your life. > > I remember watching the Dr. Phil show where he had is wife talking to > the women in the audience about taking care of themself. One woman > spoke up and said she felt quilty if she put herself first because > her kids and husband needed so much that she thought it wasn't fair > to put herself first. I'll never forget what Dr. Phil's wife replied > to her. She said, " How fair is it to your husband and children if > they have to grow up without a mother and wife? " She then went on to > say how her mother was a lot like this woman always giving out to > others, but neglecting herself, and she did of a heart attack at the > age of 58 (not for sure about the age, might be 59, but was in the > fifites). > > Once when we were at the cardiologist's office, he made the comment > to my husband. " It'll only get worse. " Now he said this to a man > (my husband) who has had two heart attacks, a stint put in, quadruple > bypass surgery, and has neuropathy. I'll never forget the moment he > said that. However, I beg to differ. He said that based on what he > has seen in his practice. This really is a serious matter. But what > he should have said that I think is more correct is, " It'll only get > worse IF YOU DON'T CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE! > > Here are some simple suggestions that I would like to make to you as > living with somebody who has had diabtetes for years and understand > some of the mental traps. First of all, know you are addicted to the > sugar. Rather than tell youself to cut it all out (although that > would be great if you could) because it is so overwhelming a simple > thing would be to just take baby steps. Instead, if you feel you > have to have something sweet, choose some dark chocolate. Not > brownies or snickers bars, but some real dark chocolate. It is > actually good for the heart. > > Here is a really good multiple vitamin/mineral/antioxidant/green > super food/ & digestive aids all in one pill that I give to my > husband. I have not found any better formula anywhere. He is not > the kind that will take a bunch of pills so this covers soooooo much > and is easy to take. It's called " Formula #3 " and you can get it at: > Support 4 Health, www.support4health.com. Phone # 1-800-977-0084. A > bottle of 90 (you take 3 a day) will cost you around $20. If you buy > 4 bottles at once, it will run a little under $17 a bottle. The > easiest way to take them is a couple in the morning and one when in > the evening. This will cover just about all your nutritional needs. > I also give my husband some flax or omega 3 capsule,and that does it. > > There's another thing I'd like to mention because I don't think a lot > of people know about it or it's not often stessed as being > important. Look into adrenal fatigue. When somebody is under > constant stress, as one is when dealing with a chronic illness, their > adrenals feel the brunt of the stress. Raw bovine adrenals can > easily be purchased over the net to help restore the adrenals. One > of the biggest complaints when one suffers from that is fatigue. > > Take some kind of fiber daily. Cholesterol binds to the fiber and is > then eliminated through the bowels. A simple preventive measure to > help prevent heart problems. > > Any kind of exercise you can do will help to reduce your glucose > levels. The chi machine is kind of like the Reader's Digest version > of exercise. A lot is accomplished in a very little amount of time. > I think 15 minutes is suppose to be equivelent to 90 minutes of > walking as far as cellular oxidation. Something like that. That > plus the vitamins, fish oil, & fiber is really pretty basic. Try and > make better food choices one food at a time. > > I hope I am not coming across as being pushy. These are just some > very simple steps you can take to get your diabetes under control, > and it all starts with the sugar. When your sugar is running as high > as yours has been, it's like trying to pump blood through sand. > Things get very sluggish. The constant elevation of sugar is what > causes the nerves to die off causing neuropathy. Everything works > together, but it can all be reversed by getting the sugar under > control. > > Take care, > > gail > > > > -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@...> wrote: >> >> This year my blood sugar has run higher, particularly when >> under stress and/or sick, even up to the mid-300's, and I have >> really felt bad, like a dead man walking at times. Well, I'll start >> walking while lying down with the Chi. >> jp >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are > a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Dear , We never truly know what the other person is going through; the trials they are facing or the depth of that trial unless perhaps we know them personally, which I don't you. It's always a good idea to tread softly. Mouth closed now, but warm hugs to you. Do take care. Tenderly, Gail -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@...> wrote: > > A serious note deserves a serious response: > I used to consume too much sugar, years ago, > having spent my formative years in a house that > was both my home and, attached, a small grocery > store - meaning I could get sodas, ice cream, candy > any time, and I don't remember being told no by my > mom who ran the store. > > Nowdays, I eat fairly well, although bread or potatoes > are a part of my diet, not at home but when eating fast > food, which is too much. > > The primary thing that helps my blood sugar level is > activity, so the Chi should help there. > > Adrenal stress - there's the kicker because I have been > burned out for about 30 years, unbelievable but true. > There is a lot of stress because my mom, who has Lupus, > has been affected to the point where it affects her mind, > and she has turned against my wife in ways that really hurts me. > There are other stresses that I will not name. > > Now 53, I was about dead 4 years ago, with triglycerides over > 2000, elevated liver enzymes, blood sugar over 200 fasting,etc., but with > nutrition and diet > changes, have bounced back. The doctor thinks I have a genetic > weakness in digesting fats. I also have many food allergies, including > gluten and yeasts. > > When on a severely limited carb diet, my blood sugar came down > fast, and then....I got shingles, a mild case but still discouraging. > Since then, I seem to be more subject to viruses, colds, flu. > The normally suggested things for diabetes have never helped me, > and believe me, I have tried them ALL. The most response was > with Bernstein's plan of very low carbs, evening primrose oil, and > alpha lipoic acid. > > I'm now on two blood sugar medicines and a pill for blood pressure, > so I'm on the downward slope. I'll let you know what happens but > it's not too encouraging at this point. > jp > > > > > Hi JP, > > > > I want to talk seriously with you a little because this really is > > serious. > > > > There are so many qualities in my husband that I admire, but taking > > care of himself is not one. I have a feeling you might also need > > some help in caring for yourself. For somebody who is so > > conscientious about others and will extent himself for the betterment > > of his fellow man, not accepting mediocre but working so hard to > > bring out the best in others, he sucks at taking care of himself. > > > > There is an addiction with the diabetic when it comes to sugar. > > Before he came down with it, he was never a sugar person. Always > > preferred good food. Now he craves it, whether it be sugar, > > patatoes, or white bread. Not only that, but because he always > > extended himself to others, he would so often just grab a cookie or > > coke on the run and keep going. This is a vicious cycle for the > > diabetic trying to work and meet the needs of others. You're caught > > in a rat race, but you pay for it with your health and sometimes even > > with your life. > > > > I remember watching the Dr. Phil show where he had is wife talking to > > the women in the audience about taking care of themself. One woman > > spoke up and said she felt quilty if she put herself first because > > her kids and husband needed so much that she thought it wasn't fair > > to put herself first. I'll never forget what Dr. Phil's wife replied > > to her. She said, " How fair is it to your husband and children if > > they have to grow up without a mother and wife? " She then went on to > > say how her mother was a lot like this woman always giving out to > > others, but neglecting herself, and she did of a heart attack at the > > age of 58 (not for sure about the age, might be 59, but was in the > > fifites). > > > > Once when we were at the cardiologist's office, he made the comment > > to my husband. " It'll only get worse. " Now he said this to a man > > (my husband) who has had two heart attacks, a stint put in, quadruple > > bypass surgery, and has neuropathy. I'll never forget the moment he > > said that. However, I beg to differ. He said that based on what he > > has seen in his practice. This really is a serious matter. But what > > he should have said that I think is more correct is, " It'll only get > > worse IF YOU DON'T CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE! > > > > Here are some simple suggestions that I would like to make to you as > > living with somebody who has had diabtetes for years and understand > > some of the mental traps. First of all, know you are addicted to the > > sugar. Rather than tell youself to cut it all out (although that > > would be great if you could) because it is so overwhelming a simple > > thing would be to just take baby steps. Instead, if you feel you > > have to have something sweet, choose some dark chocolate. Not > > brownies or snickers bars, but some real dark chocolate. It is > > actually good for the heart. > > > > Here is a really good multiple vitamin/mineral/antioxidant/green > > super food/ & digestive aids all in one pill that I give to my > > husband. I have not found any better formula anywhere. He is not > > the kind that will take a bunch of pills so this covers soooooo much > > and is easy to take. It's called " Formula #3 " and you can get it at: > > Support 4 Health, www.support4health.com. Phone # 1-800-977- 0084. A > > bottle of 90 (you take 3 a day) will cost you around $20. If you buy > > 4 bottles at once, it will run a little under $17 a bottle. The > > easiest way to take them is a couple in the morning and one when in > > the evening. This will cover just about all your nutritional needs. > > I also give my husband some flax or omega 3 capsule,and that does it. > > > > There's another thing I'd like to mention because I don't think a lot > > of people know about it or it's not often stessed as being > > important. Look into adrenal fatigue. When somebody is under > > constant stress, as one is when dealing with a chronic illness, their > > adrenals feel the brunt of the stress. Raw bovine adrenals can > > easily be purchased over the net to help restore the adrenals. One > > of the biggest complaints when one suffers from that is fatigue. > > > > Take some kind of fiber daily. Cholesterol binds to the fiber and is > > then eliminated through the bowels. A simple preventive measure to > > help prevent heart problems. > > > > Any kind of exercise you can do will help to reduce your glucose > > levels. The chi machine is kind of like the Reader's Digest version > > of exercise. A lot is accomplished in a very little amount of time. > > I think 15 minutes is suppose to be equivelent to 90 minutes of > > walking as far as cellular oxidation. Something like that. That > > plus the vitamins, fish oil, & fiber is really pretty basic. Try and > > make better food choices one food at a time. > > > > I hope I am not coming across as being pushy. These are just some > > very simple steps you can take to get your diabetes under control, > > and it all starts with the sugar. When your sugar is running as high > > as yours has been, it's like trying to pump blood through sand. > > Things get very sluggish. The constant elevation of sugar is what > > causes the nerves to die off causing neuropathy. Everything works > > together, but it can all be reversed by getting the sugar under > > control. > > > > Take care, > > > > gail > > > > > > > > -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@> wrote: > >> > >> This year my blood sugar has run higher, particularly when > >> under stress and/or sick, even up to the mid-300's, and I have > >> really felt bad, like a dead man walking at times. Well, I'll start > >> walking while lying down with the Chi. > >> jp > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list > > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are > > a researcher or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Better hugs than self-pinches. I actually appreciate your suggestions, because it encourages me to try harder, and stick to a plan. Perhaps one thing mentioned in this forum might make the difference. jp > Dear , > > We never truly know what the other person is going through; the > trials they are facing or the depth of that trial unless perhaps we > know them personally, which I don't you. It's always a good idea to > tread softly. > > Mouth closed now, but warm hugs to you. Do take care. > > Tenderly, > > Gail > > -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@...> wrote: >> >> A serious note deserves a serious response: >> I used to consume too much sugar, years ago, >> having spent my formative years in a house that >> was both my home and, attached, a small grocery >> store - meaning I could get sodas, ice cream, candy >> any time, and I don't remember being told no by my >> mom who ran the store. >> >> Nowdays, I eat fairly well, although bread or potatoes >> are a part of my diet, not at home but when eating fast >> food, which is too much. >> >> The primary thing that helps my blood sugar level is >> activity, so the Chi should help there. >> >> Adrenal stress - there's the kicker because I have been >> burned out for about 30 years, unbelievable but true. >> There is a lot of stress because my mom, who has Lupus, >> has been affected to the point where it affects her mind, >> and she has turned against my wife in ways that really hurts me. >> There are other stresses that I will not name. >> >> Now 53, I was about dead 4 years ago, with triglycerides over >> 2000, elevated liver enzymes, blood sugar over 200 fasting,etc., > but with >> nutrition and diet >> changes, have bounced back. The doctor thinks I have a genetic >> weakness in digesting fats. I also have many food allergies, > including >> gluten and yeasts. >> >> When on a severely limited carb diet, my blood sugar came down >> fast, and then....I got shingles, a mild case but still > discouraging. >> Since then, I seem to be more subject to viruses, colds, flu. >> The normally suggested things for diabetes have never helped me, >> and believe me, I have tried them ALL. The most response was >> with Bernstein's plan of very low carbs, evening primrose oil, and >> alpha lipoic acid. >> >> I'm now on two blood sugar medicines and a pill for blood pressure, >> so I'm on the downward slope. I'll let you know what happens but >> it's not too encouraging at this point. >> jp >> >> >> >> > Hi JP, >> > >> > I want to talk seriously with you a little because this really is >> > serious. >> > >> > There are so many qualities in my husband that I admire, but > taking >> > care of himself is not one. I have a feeling you might also need >> > some help in caring for yourself. For somebody who is so >> > conscientious about others and will extent himself for the > betterment >> > of his fellow man, not accepting mediocre but working so hard to >> > bring out the best in others, he sucks at taking care of himself. >> > >> > There is an addiction with the diabetic when it comes to sugar. >> > Before he came down with it, he was never a sugar person. Always >> > preferred good food. Now he craves it, whether it be sugar, >> > patatoes, or white bread. Not only that, but because he always >> > extended himself to others, he would so often just grab a cookie > or >> > coke on the run and keep going. This is a vicious cycle for the >> > diabetic trying to work and meet the needs of others. You're > caught >> > in a rat race, but you pay for it with your health and sometimes > even >> > with your life. >> > >> > I remember watching the Dr. Phil show where he had is wife > talking to >> > the women in the audience about taking care of themself. One > woman >> > spoke up and said she felt quilty if she put herself first because >> > her kids and husband needed so much that she thought it wasn't > fair >> > to put herself first. I'll never forget what Dr. Phil's wife > replied >> > to her. She said, " How fair is it to your husband and children if >> > they have to grow up without a mother and wife? " She then went > on to >> > say how her mother was a lot like this woman always giving out to >> > others, but neglecting herself, and she did of a heart attack at > the >> > age of 58 (not for sure about the age, might be 59, but was in the >> > fifites). >> > >> > Once when we were at the cardiologist's office, he made the > comment >> > to my husband. " It'll only get worse. " Now he said this to a man >> > (my husband) who has had two heart attacks, a stint put in, > quadruple >> > bypass surgery, and has neuropathy. I'll never forget the moment > he >> > said that. However, I beg to differ. He said that based on what > he >> > has seen in his practice. This really is a serious matter. But > what >> > he should have said that I think is more correct is, " It'll only > get >> > worse IF YOU DON'T CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE! >> > >> > Here are some simple suggestions that I would like to make to you > as >> > living with somebody who has had diabtetes for years and > understand >> > some of the mental traps. First of all, know you are addicted to > the >> > sugar. Rather than tell youself to cut it all out (although that >> > would be great if you could) because it is so overwhelming a > simple >> > thing would be to just take baby steps. Instead, if you feel you >> > have to have something sweet, choose some dark chocolate. Not >> > brownies or snickers bars, but some real dark chocolate. It is >> > actually good for the heart. >> > >> > Here is a really good multiple vitamin/mineral/antioxidant/green >> > super food/ & digestive aids all in one pill that I give to my >> > husband. I have not found any better formula anywhere. He is not >> > the kind that will take a bunch of pills so this covers soooooo > much >> > and is easy to take. It's called " Formula #3 " and you can get it > at: >> > Support 4 Health, www.support4health.com. Phone # 1-800-977- > 0084. A >> > bottle of 90 (you take 3 a day) will cost you around $20. If you > buy >> > 4 bottles at once, it will run a little under $17 a bottle. The >> > easiest way to take them is a couple in the morning and one when > in >> > the evening. This will cover just about all your nutritional > needs. >> > I also give my husband some flax or omega 3 capsule,and that does > it. >> > >> > There's another thing I'd like to mention because I don't think a > lot >> > of people know about it or it's not often stessed as being >> > important. Look into adrenal fatigue. When somebody is under >> > constant stress, as one is when dealing with a chronic illness, > their >> > adrenals feel the brunt of the stress. Raw bovine adrenals can >> > easily be purchased over the net to help restore the adrenals. > One >> > of the biggest complaints when one suffers from that is fatigue. >> > >> > Take some kind of fiber daily. Cholesterol binds to the fiber > and is >> > then eliminated through the bowels. A simple preventive measure > to >> > help prevent heart problems. >> > >> > Any kind of exercise you can do will help to reduce your glucose >> > levels. The chi machine is kind of like the Reader's Digest > version >> > of exercise. A lot is accomplished in a very little amount of > time. >> > I think 15 minutes is suppose to be equivelent to 90 minutes of >> > walking as far as cellular oxidation. Something like that. That >> > plus the vitamins, fish oil, & fiber is really pretty basic. Try > and >> > make better food choices one food at a time. >> > >> > I hope I am not coming across as being pushy. These are just some >> > very simple steps you can take to get your diabetes under control, >> > and it all starts with the sugar. When your sugar is running as > high >> > as yours has been, it's like trying to pump blood through sand. >> > Things get very sluggish. The constant elevation of sugar is what >> > causes the nerves to die off causing neuropathy. Everything works >> > together, but it can all be reversed by getting the sugar under >> > control. >> > >> > Take care, >> > >> > gail >> > >> > >> > >> > -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@> wrote: >> >> >> >> This year my blood sugar has run higher, particularly when >> >> under stress and/or sick, even up to the mid-300's, and I have >> >> really felt bad, like a dead man walking at times. Well, I'll > start >> >> walking while lying down with the Chi. >> >> jp >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative > therapies, and >> > other alternative self-help subjects. >> > >> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! >> > >> > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will > find here >> > are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing >> > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > so at >> > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, > and the >> > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining > the list >> > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do > not use any >> > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, > unless you are >> > a researcher or health care provider. >> > >> > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following >> > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >> > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of >> > the message! : >> > >> > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups >> > >> > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > normal mode. >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Dear Donna, Does the Chi machine help for diabetes 1 or diabetes 2? Thanks, Margo > > >> > > >> Once again, thank you for your information. > > >> I have not been able to control my diabetes. > > >> You are a blessing. > > >> jp > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > > > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the > > list > > > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not > > use any > > > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless > > you are > > > a researcher or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of > > > the message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > <mailto:oxyplus-unsubscribe%40> > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist <mailto:oxyplus-normal% 40onelist.com> - > > switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Boron then, for your mother, to start with. The normal maintenance dose is about 4 mg., the lethal dose is about 58 mg. Expected therapeutic dose : 8 mg (unless your mother is very big). Some experimenting might be necessary here, but care with the quantity is needed. DCH Re: Re: curcumin and diabetes A serious note deserves a serious response: I used to consume too much sugar, years ago, having spent my formative years in a house that was both my home and, attached, a small grocery store - meaning I could get sodas, ice cream, candy any time, and I don't remember being told no by my mom who ran the store. Nowdays, I eat fairly well, although bread or potatoes are a part of my diet, not at home but when eating fast food, which is too much. The primary thing that helps my blood sugar level is activity, so the Chi should help there. Adrenal stress - there's the kicker because I have been burned out for about 30 years, unbelievable but true. There is a lot of stress because my mom, who has Lupus, has been affected to the point where it affects her mind, and she has turned against my wife in ways that really hurts me. There are other stresses that I will not name. Now 53, I was about dead 4 years ago, with triglycerides over 2000, elevated liver enzymes, blood sugar over 200 fasting,etc., but with nutrition and diet changes, have bounced back. The doctor thinks I have a genetic weakness in digesting fats. I also have many food allergies, including gluten and yeasts. When on a severely limited carb diet, my blood sugar came down fast, and then....I got shingles, a mild case but still discouraging. Since then, I seem to be more subject to viruses, colds, flu. The normally suggested things for diabetes have never helped me, and believe me, I have tried them ALL. The most response was with Bernstein's plan of very low carbs, evening primrose oil, and alpha lipoic acid. I'm now on two blood sugar medicines and a pill for blood pressure, so I'm on the downward slope. I'll let you know what happens but it's not too encouraging at this point. jp > Hi JP, > > I want to talk seriously with you a little because this really is > serious. > > There are so many qualities in my husband that I admire, but taking > care of himself is not one. I have a feeling you might also need > some help in caring for yourself. For somebody who is so > conscientious about others and will extent himself for the betterment > of his fellow man, not accepting mediocre but working so hard to > bring out the best in others, he sucks at taking care of himself. > > There is an addiction with the diabetic when it comes to sugar. > Before he came down with it, he was never a sugar person. Always > preferred good food. Now he craves it, whether it be sugar, > patatoes, or white bread. Not only that, but because he always > extended himself to others, he would so often just grab a cookie or > coke on the run and keep going. This is a vicious cycle for the > diabetic trying to work and meet the needs of others. You're caught > in a rat race, but you pay for it with your health and sometimes even > with your life. > > I remember watching the Dr. Phil show where he had is wife talking to > the women in the audience about taking care of themself. One woman > spoke up and said she felt quilty if she put herself first because > her kids and husband needed so much that she thought it wasn't fair > to put herself first. I'll never forget what Dr. Phil's wife replied > to her. She said, " How fair is it to your husband and children if > they have to grow up without a mother and wife? " She then went on to > say how her mother was a lot like this woman always giving out to > others, but neglecting herself, and she did of a heart attack at the > age of 58 (not for sure about the age, might be 59, but was in the > fifites). > > Once when we were at the cardiologist's office, he made the comment > to my husband. " It'll only get worse. " Now he said this to a man > (my husband) who has had two heart attacks, a stint put in, quadruple > bypass surgery, and has neuropathy. I'll never forget the moment he > said that. However, I beg to differ. He said that based on what he > has seen in his practice. This really is a serious matter. But what > he should have said that I think is more correct is, " It'll only get > worse IF YOU DON'T CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE! > > Here are some simple suggestions that I would like to make to you as > living with somebody who has had diabtetes for years and understand > some of the mental traps. First of all, know you are addicted to the > sugar. Rather than tell youself to cut it all out (although that > would be great if you could) because it is so overwhelming a simple > thing would be to just take baby steps. Instead, if you feel you > have to have something sweet, choose some dark chocolate. Not > brownies or snickers bars, but some real dark chocolate. It is > actually good for the heart. > > Here is a really good multiple vitamin/mineral/antioxidant/green > super food/ & digestive aids all in one pill that I give to my > husband. I have not found any better formula anywhere. He is not > the kind that will take a bunch of pills so this covers soooooo much > and is easy to take. It's called " Formula #3 " and you can get it at: > Support 4 Health, www.support4health.com. Phone # 1-800-977-0084. A > bottle of 90 (you take 3 a day) will cost you around $20. If you buy > 4 bottles at once, it will run a little under $17 a bottle. The > easiest way to take them is a couple in the morning and one when in > the evening. This will cover just about all your nutritional needs. > I also give my husband some flax or omega 3 capsule,and that does it. > > There's another thing I'd like to mention because I don't think a lot > of people know about it or it's not often stessed as being > important. Look into adrenal fatigue. When somebody is under > constant stress, as one is when dealing with a chronic illness, their > adrenals feel the brunt of the stress. Raw bovine adrenals can > easily be purchased over the net to help restore the adrenals. One > of the biggest complaints when one suffers from that is fatigue. > > Take some kind of fiber daily. Cholesterol binds to the fiber and is > then eliminated through the bowels. A simple preventive measure to > help prevent heart problems. > > Any kind of exercise you can do will help to reduce your glucose > levels. The chi machine is kind of like the Reader's Digest version > of exercise. A lot is accomplished in a very little amount of time. > I think 15 minutes is suppose to be equivelent to 90 minutes of > walking as far as cellular oxidation. Something like that. That > plus the vitamins, fish oil, & fiber is really pretty basic. Try and > make better food choices one food at a time. > > I hope I am not coming across as being pushy. These are just some > very simple steps you can take to get your diabetes under control, > and it all starts with the sugar. When your sugar is running as high > as yours has been, it's like trying to pump blood through sand. > Things get very sluggish. The constant elevation of sugar is what > causes the nerves to die off causing neuropathy. Everything works > together, but it can all be reversed by getting the sugar under > control. > > Take care, > > gail > > > > -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@...> wrote: >> >> This year my blood sugar has run higher, particularly when >> under stress and/or sick, even up to the mid-300's, and I have >> really felt bad, like a dead man walking at times. Well, I'll start >> walking while lying down with the Chi. >> jp >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are > a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Boron then, for your mother, to start with. The normal maintenance dose is about 4 mg., the lethal dose is about 58 mg. Expected therapeutic dose : 8 mg (unless your mother is very big). Some experimenting might be necessary here, but care with the quantity is needed. DCH Re: Re: curcumin and diabetes A serious note deserves a serious response: I used to consume too much sugar, years ago, having spent my formative years in a house that was both my home and, attached, a small grocery store - meaning I could get sodas, ice cream, candy any time, and I don't remember being told no by my mom who ran the store. Nowdays, I eat fairly well, although bread or potatoes are a part of my diet, not at home but when eating fast food, which is too much. The primary thing that helps my blood sugar level is activity, so the Chi should help there. Adrenal stress - there's the kicker because I have been burned out for about 30 years, unbelievable but true. There is a lot of stress because my mom, who has Lupus, has been affected to the point where it affects her mind, and she has turned against my wife in ways that really hurts me. There are other stresses that I will not name. Now 53, I was about dead 4 years ago, with triglycerides over 2000, elevated liver enzymes, blood sugar over 200 fasting,etc., but with nutrition and diet changes, have bounced back. The doctor thinks I have a genetic weakness in digesting fats. I also have many food allergies, including gluten and yeasts. When on a severely limited carb diet, my blood sugar came down fast, and then....I got shingles, a mild case but still discouraging. Since then, I seem to be more subject to viruses, colds, flu. The normally suggested things for diabetes have never helped me, and believe me, I have tried them ALL. The most response was with Bernstein's plan of very low carbs, evening primrose oil, and alpha lipoic acid. I'm now on two blood sugar medicines and a pill for blood pressure, so I'm on the downward slope. I'll let you know what happens but it's not too encouraging at this point. jp > Hi JP, > > I want to talk seriously with you a little because this really is > serious. > > There are so many qualities in my husband that I admire, but taking > care of himself is not one. I have a feeling you might also need > some help in caring for yourself. For somebody who is so > conscientious about others and will extent himself for the betterment > of his fellow man, not accepting mediocre but working so hard to > bring out the best in others, he sucks at taking care of himself. > > There is an addiction with the diabetic when it comes to sugar. > Before he came down with it, he was never a sugar person. Always > preferred good food. Now he craves it, whether it be sugar, > patatoes, or white bread. Not only that, but because he always > extended himself to others, he would so often just grab a cookie or > coke on the run and keep going. This is a vicious cycle for the > diabetic trying to work and meet the needs of others. You're caught > in a rat race, but you pay for it with your health and sometimes even > with your life. > > I remember watching the Dr. Phil show where he had is wife talking to > the women in the audience about taking care of themself. One woman > spoke up and said she felt quilty if she put herself first because > her kids and husband needed so much that she thought it wasn't fair > to put herself first. I'll never forget what Dr. Phil's wife replied > to her. She said, " How fair is it to your husband and children if > they have to grow up without a mother and wife? " She then went on to > say how her mother was a lot like this woman always giving out to > others, but neglecting herself, and she did of a heart attack at the > age of 58 (not for sure about the age, might be 59, but was in the > fifites). > > Once when we were at the cardiologist's office, he made the comment > to my husband. " It'll only get worse. " Now he said this to a man > (my husband) who has had two heart attacks, a stint put in, quadruple > bypass surgery, and has neuropathy. I'll never forget the moment he > said that. However, I beg to differ. He said that based on what he > has seen in his practice. This really is a serious matter. But what > he should have said that I think is more correct is, " It'll only get > worse IF YOU DON'T CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE! > > Here are some simple suggestions that I would like to make to you as > living with somebody who has had diabtetes for years and understand > some of the mental traps. First of all, know you are addicted to the > sugar. Rather than tell youself to cut it all out (although that > would be great if you could) because it is so overwhelming a simple > thing would be to just take baby steps. Instead, if you feel you > have to have something sweet, choose some dark chocolate. Not > brownies or snickers bars, but some real dark chocolate. It is > actually good for the heart. > > Here is a really good multiple vitamin/mineral/antioxidant/green > super food/ & digestive aids all in one pill that I give to my > husband. I have not found any better formula anywhere. He is not > the kind that will take a bunch of pills so this covers soooooo much > and is easy to take. It's called " Formula #3 " and you can get it at: > Support 4 Health, www.support4health.com. Phone # 1-800-977-0084. A > bottle of 90 (you take 3 a day) will cost you around $20. If you buy > 4 bottles at once, it will run a little under $17 a bottle. The > easiest way to take them is a couple in the morning and one when in > the evening. This will cover just about all your nutritional needs. > I also give my husband some flax or omega 3 capsule,and that does it. > > There's another thing I'd like to mention because I don't think a lot > of people know about it or it's not often stessed as being > important. Look into adrenal fatigue. When somebody is under > constant stress, as one is when dealing with a chronic illness, their > adrenals feel the brunt of the stress. Raw bovine adrenals can > easily be purchased over the net to help restore the adrenals. One > of the biggest complaints when one suffers from that is fatigue. > > Take some kind of fiber daily. Cholesterol binds to the fiber and is > then eliminated through the bowels. A simple preventive measure to > help prevent heart problems. > > Any kind of exercise you can do will help to reduce your glucose > levels. The chi machine is kind of like the Reader's Digest version > of exercise. A lot is accomplished in a very little amount of time. > I think 15 minutes is suppose to be equivelent to 90 minutes of > walking as far as cellular oxidation. Something like that. That > plus the vitamins, fish oil, & fiber is really pretty basic. Try and > make better food choices one food at a time. > > I hope I am not coming across as being pushy. These are just some > very simple steps you can take to get your diabetes under control, > and it all starts with the sugar. When your sugar is running as high > as yours has been, it's like trying to pump blood through sand. > Things get very sluggish. The constant elevation of sugar is what > causes the nerves to die off causing neuropathy. Everything works > together, but it can all be reversed by getting the sugar under > control. > > Take care, > > gail > > > > -- In oxyplus , " boy " <jhprice@...> wrote: >> >> This year my blood sugar has run higher, particularly when >> under stress and/or sick, even up to the mid-300's, and I have >> really felt bad, like a dead man walking at times. Well, I'll start >> walking while lying down with the Chi. >> jp >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list > you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are > a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 It is my understanding that it helps for both, in different ways. The movement of the lymph, the super oxygenation, the movement of the spinal fluid, the balancing of the vertebrae. All these work together to help the body heal, no matter what the issue is. Some have spectacular results and others have more modest results. As is true with all protocols. But quite often people notice stabelized blood sugar levels in 2-6 weeks of daily use at the 15 minute range. Blessings Donna http://www.excellentthings.com http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Free E Book Download Margo wrote: > > Dear Donna, > > Does the Chi machine help for diabetes 1 or diabetes 2? > > Thanks, > > Margo > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 It is my understanding that it helps for both, in different ways. The movement of the lymph, the super oxygenation, the movement of the spinal fluid, the balancing of the vertebrae. All these work together to help the body heal, no matter what the issue is. Some have spectacular results and others have more modest results. As is true with all protocols. But quite often people notice stabelized blood sugar levels in 2-6 weeks of daily use at the 15 minute range. Blessings Donna http://www.excellentthings.com http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Free E Book Download Margo wrote: > > Dear Donna, > > Does the Chi machine help for diabetes 1 or diabetes 2? > > Thanks, > > Margo > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Donna...thanks!!! > > > > Dear Donna, > > > > Does the Chi machine help for diabetes 1 or diabetes 2? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Margo > > > > - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Donna... Which brand is the best please of the Chi Machines Thanks a Re: curcumin and diabetes Donna...thanks!!! > > > > Dear Donna, > > > > Does the Chi machine help for diabetes 1 or diabetes 2? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Margo > > > > - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Hi a, How are things down there in NZ? The Original, which is why I carry it. It is patented, which means that all the copies have to make changes or be in breach of patent. I tried two copies, expensive ones that I found on the net, thinking I could save money and have a good machine to offer people. I ended up losing a hundred dollars in shipping, $25 each way for two different machines which turned out to be vastly inferior to the original. I had an original at my house that a friend had loaned me and I was so excited when the first copy machine arrived. I just knew it was going to be great and I was going to feel so smart for saving so much money. Wrong. It was awful. The speed was unpleasant, the distance of the swing was all wrong, and it was flimsy. I felt bad after using it and had to use the Original Chi Machine to get over the jangling I experienced from the copy machine. I didn't give up though, I order another one that I found on the net, that on paper looked better than the Chi machine. Wrong again. It was awful. Instead of feeling smart for finding a great quality, less expensive machine, I found that the most expensive copies were junk in comparison and I lost $100 in shipping. I'm still bitter. LOL. Then Ken Gullen mentioned he had a copy that he thought was inferior also, compared to his original and others chimed in with similar experiences. I decided to get over my annoyance with paying full price for the Original and bought one. Now I have two and they are wonderful. I have the extra for loaning to people in my local area. I have a pdf on the copy machines if anyone want to read it. It has my experience plus that of some others, including a doctor who did blood pressure testing on some copies vs the Original and found that the copies raised bp and the original lowered it. Blessings Donna http://www.excellentthings.com http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Free E Book Download a Mcgregor wrote: > > Donna... Which brand is the best please of the Chi Machines Thanks a > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Margo > T > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 boy: The Mercola reference to Dr. Rosenbergs articles, which I hope you have looked at emphasize no carbs including potatos. Beyond all this, the information about your history is illuminating. I have consistantly found the kidneys as a key element in diabetes(in healing work the adrenals are part of the kidneys). In some Chinese healing systems the kidneys are the repository of resentment. At your age over 50 shifting mental patterns is much more than telling you stories about what you should do. Here is how you can start. Look at some meditation CDs I have found Holocync to be useful. Others may be also useful. They will help you to start shifting your habitual mental patterns. Under all the mental and physical factors, I consistantly have found the cause(s) of diabetes lay within past lives and early childhood emotionally based belief systems. Of course diet and nutrition are also critical. Dwight Munson --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Reason being is because it all effects the body like sugar, be it white patatoes, bread or whatever. A diabetic can think they are doing ok because they are not eating sugar, but the other should be avoided too. gail > > boy: The Mercola reference to Dr. Rosenbergs articles, which I hope you have looked at emphasize no carbs including potatos. Beyond all this, the information about your history is illuminating. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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