Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 HI all, I have a medical situation, in which I have had pretty heavy bleeding for the past 12 days and am now very anemic. I have been told that a hysterectomy is eminent and by rights I should be having a blood transfusion right now. Regular counts should be 120 and mine is at 77. Transfusions around 85-90. Tomorrow will tell if I need one. I have been doing some research but am appealing to my health lists for any information good or bad towards the situation. I have presently 3 weeks to wait for the surgery unless things go from bad to worse over the next few days. I have been put on medication to help control blood flow and iron to build the blood back up. If things get worse the surgery date will be moved up. I don't want the surgery but I am out in the middle of no-mans land with my specialist leaving in 2-3 months. The alternative specialist for this surgery, if I wait until after this one leaves, is not a very good option. This doctor is worried about the anemia being really bad on heart long term. I really have been putting this off for sometime and have also been turning a blind eye to it. I would like to hear if anyone has had this procedure and what are some pros and cons of the effects. You can email me directly to keep any off topic to a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Dear G & K, I'm confused about the numbers you mention. You mention " 77 when it should be 120 " . If you look at the explanation of a CBC in the Merck Manual, it talks about an amount of red blood cells as a range: >Red blood cell (RBC) count 4.2-5.9 million/mL http://www.merck.com/mmhe/au/appendixes/ap2/ap2b.html Also - another website says: > * Red cell count (RBC). The number of > <http://www.medicinenet.com/complete_blood_count//script/main/art.asp?articlekey\ =5260>red > blood cells in a volume of blood. Normal range varies slightly between > laboratories but is generally between 4.2 - 5.9 million cells/cmm. This > can also be referred to as the erythrocyte count and can be expressed in > international units as 4.2 - 5.9 x 1012 cells per liter. http://www.medicinenet.com/complete_blood_count/article.htm Do you feel you understand what the numbers on your labwork mean so that you are sure of what you are being told? Do you have a copy of your test so that you can check on the hemoglobin, hematocrit, etc ? If you absolutely had to have the transfusion, could you stall on the surgery, and then get yourself to a medical doctor who uses bio-identical hormones to advise you if you could have hormonal treatment? American College for Advancement in Medicine - ACAM - has a worldwide list of doctors at: http://www.acamnet.org Please share whatever information you find that helps you as this can be a problem for women in peri-menopause. Thanks, Carol >X-Sender: kgtnm@... >X-Apparently-oxyplus >oxyplus >From: G & K Murray <kgtnm@...> >X--Profile: gmm1996 >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:29:01 -0600 >Subject: Amemia + Hysterectomy > >HI all, > >I have a medical situation, in which I have had pretty heavy bleeding >for the past 12 days and am now very anemic. I have been told that a >hysterectomy is eminent and by rights I should be having a blood >transfusion right now. Regular counts should be 120 and mine is at 77. >Transfusions around 85-90. Tomorrow will tell if I need one. I have >been doing some research but am appealing to my health lists for any >information good or bad towards the situation. I have presently 3 weeks >to wait for the surgery unless things go from bad to worse over the next >few days. I have been put on medication to help control blood flow and >iron to build the blood back up. If things get worse the surgery date >will be moved up. I don't want the surgery but I am out in the middle >of no-mans land with my specialist leaving in 2-3 months. The >alternative specialist for this surgery, if I wait until after this one >leaves, is not a very good option. This doctor is worried about the >anemia being really bad on heart long term. I really have been putting >this off for sometime and have also been turning a blind eye to it. > >I would like to hear if anyone has had this procedure and what are some >pros and cons of the effects. > >You can email me directly to keep any off topic to a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hi Carol, I don't understand it expressed this way either. In the past I have heard that 10 was low and 12 was normal. So I assumed this was expressed as 10 times that. Each lab uses different standards and since I am in Canada it may be just a Canadian thing. In any case I am way low of the bottom side of low so I really need to do something fast. My lab results, I have in my hand as I am seeing an internist tomorrow for the anemia. RBC 2.43 ref range 3.80 - 5.20 x1012/L, Hemoglobin 77 ref range 117 - 160 g/L: hematocrit 0.227 ref range 0.340 - 0.470 /L I am taking cyclokapron 500mg to stop the bleeding and an increase dosage for progesterone to help control the cycle. I am also on the highest dose of iron that any of the doctors I talked to today would allow me to take. I don't know if you saw what I said to Saul, but there is very little in the way of any type of medical doctor who uses bio-identical hormones, here in the middle of no where. I really am looking at alternatives, but like I said, if it does come down to the surgery I want this DR to do it and not the other one. So I really do have to make my mind up soon. He has come from out of the country and has told me that he has gone through medical school completly twice in order to be a Ob-Gyn here in Canada, so I really do think he knows what he does and is the best in what he does. He is leaving the ovaries and claims that there should be no need for hormone therapy. I just need some anecdotal evidence that shows what happens after having the procedure done. Good or Bad. G Carol wrote: > Dear G & K, > > I'm confused about the numbers you mention. You mention " 77 when it > should > be 120 " . > > If you look at the explanation of a CBC in the Merck Manual, it talks > about > an amount of red blood cells as a range: > > >Red blood cell (RBC) count 4.2-5.9 million/mL > > http://www.merck.com/mmhe/au/appendixes/ap2/ap2b.html > <http://www.merck.com/mmhe/au/appendixes/ap2/ap2b.html> > > Also - another website says: > > * Red cell count (RBC). The number of > > > <http://www.medicinenet.com/complete_blood_count//script/main/art.asp?articlekey\ =5260 > <http://www.medicinenet.com/complete_blood_count//script/main/art.asp?articlekey\ =5260>>red > > > blood cells in a volume of blood. Normal range varies slightly between > > laboratories but is generally between 4.2 - 5.9 million cells/cmm. This > > can also be referred to as the erythrocyte count and can be > expressed in > > international units as 4.2 - 5.9 x 1012 cells per liter. > http://www.medicinenet.com/complete_blood_count/article.htm > <http://www.medicinenet.com/complete_blood_count/article.htm> > > Do you feel you understand what the numbers on your labwork mean so that > you are sure of what you are being told? > Do you have a copy of your test so that you can check on the hemoglobin, > hematocrit, etc ? > > If you absolutely had to have the transfusion, could you stall on the > surgery, and then get yourself to a medical doctor who uses bio-identical > hormones to advise you if you could have hormonal treatment? > > American College for Advancement in Medicine - ACAM - has a worldwide > list > of doctors at: > http://www.acamnet.org <http://www.acamnet.org> > > Please share whatever information you find that helps you as this can > be a > problem for women in peri-menopause. > > Thanks, > Carol > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 hi G+k liquids out liquids in. Blood loss so replace with water. There are wiser people on this list than me but i hope you are drinking extra liquids, juice anything in better than not. ivan On Mar 27, 2007, at 5:29 PM, G & K Murray wrote: > HI all, > > I have a medical situation, in which I have had pretty heavy bleeding > for the past 12 days and am now very anemic. I have been told that a > hysterectomy is eminent and by rights I should be having a blood > transfusion right now. Regular counts should be 120 and mine is at > 77. > Transfusions around 85-90. Tomorrow will tell if I need one. I have > been doing some research but am appealing to my health lists for any > information good or bad towards the situation. I have presently 3 > weeks > to wait for the surgery unless things go from bad to worse over the > next > few days. I have been put on medication to help control blood flow > and > iron to build the blood back up. If things get worse the surgery date > will be moved up. I don't want the surgery but I am out in the middle > of no-mans land with my specialist leaving in 2-3 months. The > alternative specialist for this surgery, if I wait until after this > one > leaves, is not a very good option. This doctor is worried about the > anemia being really bad on heart long term. I really have been > putting > this off for sometime and have also been turning a blind eye to it. > > I would like to hear if anyone has had this procedure and what are > some > pros and cons of the effects. > > > You can email me directly to keep any off topic to a minimum. > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, > common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own > actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY > responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without > consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or > health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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