Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 I would like input on how to best use ozone rectal insufflation to treat overgrowth of yeast and or amoebic dysentary. I know that ozone is rectally as a systemic o3 treatment but I prefer using sauna for that. If people have some entrenched yeast and parasitic problems in their large bowel it seems that direct contact with the ozone would deal with that most effectively while also detoxing the colon itself and allowing for toxin sensitive probiotics to implant. The question I have is how would you ozonate inside the entire colon? If you only do enough ozone volume to get the sigmoid, descending and perhaps some of the transverse colon the bugs in the ascending colon would survive and then reimplant on down. I considered o3 colonics but there are no CHTs here. I was wondering if a person could, after several high water enemas or a colema, do enough volume of ozone to push the o3 into the ascending colon and treat the infections their? If so it seems that the concentration would have to be weaker or the higher volume of ozonated air used would be too powerful a treatment. Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Treating colon dysbiosisi with ozone >I would like input on how to best use ozone rectal insufflation to > treat overgrowth of yeast and or amoebic dysentary. I know that ozone > is rectally as a systemic o3 treatment but I prefer using sauna for > that. > > If people have some entrenched yeast and parasitic problems in their > large bowel it seems that direct contact with the ozone would deal with > that most effectively while also detoxing the colon itself and allowing > for toxin sensitive probiotics to implant. The question I have is how > would you ozonate inside the entire colon? If you only do enough ozone > volume to get the sigmoid, descending and perhaps some of the > transverse colon the bugs in the ascending colon would survive and then > reimplant on down. I considered o3 colonics but there are no CHTs here. > I was wondering if a person could, after several high water enemas or a > colema, do enough volume of ozone to push the o3 into the ascending > colon and treat the infections their? If so it seems that the > concentration would have to be weaker or the higher volume of ozonated > air used would be too powerful a treatment. Jack Jack, Why not clean out the colon and then do an enema with ozonated water? Nenah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 You might consider adding homozon to the mix. It is a product you take orally that releases nascent oxygen into the gut. Saul regularly refers people to me for this product, in addition to his ozone protocol. You can contact me off list for more info. ruthful@... Another thing that is extremely helpful with candida is Inner Garden Flora. Works freakishly well. http://www.rgarden.com Warmly Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Thanks for the replys Nenah, Donna, I'm working with some clients that are worst case scenario when it comes to persistent dysbiosis and failure to implant probiotics. I think that the ozonated water enemas could work if the enemas went high enough, and as regards the Homozon I wonder about the speed at which it releases. If it releases too quickly it would oxidize the small intestine. I guess I am kinda narrow minded about oral oxidizers. I didn't figure any compound such as that could contain truly therapeutic amounts of oxygen compared to ozone, and that if it did it would just oxidize the stomach. It's my belief that when people have bad colon dysbiosis and no matter how many probiotics they take they only last a day or two and then the colon returns to its original state, that these folks likely have an entire colon poisoned with microbial toxins. Fungus is probably a huge culprit in this since it can produce things like penicillum expansum and other mycotoxins. I mean this is what microbes do; they kill each other 24-7 in a never-ending war of attrition. When bad bugs rein it's like being on antibiotics all the time. The good bacteria never have a chance. Maybe I'm wrong but I think that to beat this one has to deliver enough oxygen to the bowel, especially the colon to kill the bugs and detoxify the parasite and fungal toxins which are in the colon tissues. I want to look into the homozon. Thanx, Jack > > You might consider adding homozon to the mix. It is a product you take > orally that releases nascent oxygen into the gut. Saul regularly refers > people to me for this product, in addition to his ozone protocol. > > You can contact me off list for more info. ruthful@... > > Another thing that is extremely helpful with candida is Inner Garden > Flora. Works freakishly well. http://www.rgarden.com > > Warmly > Donna > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Hi Jack, I have had a problem in my cecum area and I do not tolerate rectal insufflations or ememas very well due to some spastic areas in my colon. I would say that for me doing these protocols are a real pain in the butt. I have had pain and a strong sense of inflammation in the cecum area on and off for several years. Sometimes it was so bad it scared me. I have used grapefruitseed extract in the past and after taking caps or pills for a couple of weeks is would go away but always come back after a couple of months. I tried insufflation but felt that I just couldn't get the gas where it needed to go. I have had only one successful insufflation treatment that was helpful. I could feel a real difference but I just couldn't get it to happen again so I stopped trying. So I asked Saul if he felt that funneling on the area would be helpful and he said yes quite possibly and sited another incident, what was it? Oh, ya, that someone had treated diverticuli this way. So I tried it and after about 3 sessions I have been pain free ever since. Its been a few months now and no reoccurance but I do funnel there every now and then just in case.. Hope this is helpful Arrow In oxyplus , " duhboze06 " <duhboze06@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the replys Nenah, Donna, > I'm working with some clients that are worst case scenario when it > comes to persistent dysbiosis and failure to implant probiotics. I > think that the ozonated water enemas could work if the enemas went > high enough, and as regards the Homozon I wonder about the speed at > which it releases. If it releases too quickly it would oxidize the > small intestine. I guess I am kinda narrow minded about oral > oxidizers. I didn't figure any compound such as that could contain > truly therapeutic amounts of oxygen compared to ozone, and that if it > did it would just oxidize the stomach. > > It's my belief that when people have bad colon dysbiosis and no > matter how many probiotics they take they only last a day or two and > then the colon returns to its original state, that these folks likely > have an entire colon poisoned with microbial toxins. Fungus is > probably a huge culprit in this since it can produce things like > penicillum expansum and other mycotoxins. I mean this is what > microbes do; they kill each other 24-7 in a never-ending war of > attrition. When bad bugs rein it's like being on antibiotics all the > time. The good bacteria never have a chance. Maybe I'm wrong but I > think that to beat this one has to deliver enough oxygen to the > bowel, especially the colon to kill the bugs and detoxify the > parasite and fungal toxins which are in the colon tissues. I want to > look into the homozon. Thanx, Jack > > > > > > You might consider adding homozon to the mix. It is a product you > take > > orally that releases nascent oxygen into the gut. Saul regularly > refers > > people to me for this product, in addition to his ozone protocol. > > > > You can contact me off list for more info. ruthful@ > > > > Another thing that is extremely helpful with candida is Inner > Garden > > Flora. Works freakishly well. http://www.rgarden.com > > > > Warmly > > Donna > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Jack, you said: " as regards the Homozon I wonder about the speed at > which it releases. If it releases too quickly it would oxidize the > small intestine. I guess I am kinda narrow minded about oral > oxidizers. I didn't figure any compound such as that could contain > truly therapeutic amounts of oxygen compared to ozone, and that if it > did it would just oxidize the stomach. " My understanding of homozon is that it is not in the actual treatment of the intestine or stomach or colon that the benefits come from. Ozone is released from the magnesium in the presence of HCL and it is absorbed directly into the body and as such it has developed a reputation for systemic healing! In the case you are concerned about it would promote the healing of the gut from the inside out. It works slower than a direct gas application or ozone water application but it does work. Personally, I prefer to avoid the constant runs that the magnesium causes. Direct ozone gas administered rectally is the best bet. I wouldn't worry too much about where it goes. Give it a try. If there are not a lot of spastic issues the gas will move up, as will the water. If you use really cold water, (best for ozone holding capacity) your friend will know just how high the water went. They will feel it! In oxyplus , " Arrow " <arrowwind09@...> wrote: > > Hi Jack, > > I have had a problem in my cecum area and I do not tolerate rectal insufflations or > ememas very well due to some spastic areas in my colon. I would say that for me doing > these protocols are a real pain in the butt. > > I have had pain and a strong sense of inflammation in the cecum area on and off for > several years. Sometimes it was so bad it scared me. I have used grapefruitseed extract in > the past and after taking caps or pills for a couple of weeks is would go away but always > come back after a couple of months. > > I tried insufflation but felt that I just couldn't get the gas where it needed to go. I have had > only one successful insufflation treatment that was helpful. I could feel a real difference > but I just couldn't get it to happen again so I stopped trying. > > So I asked Saul if he felt that funneling on the area would be helpful and he said yes quite > possibly and sited another incident, what was it? Oh, ya, that someone had treated > diverticuli this way. So I tried it and after about 3 sessions I have been pain free ever since. > Its been a few months now and no reoccurance but I do funnel there every now and then > just in case.. > > Hope this is helpful > Arrow > > > In oxyplus , " duhboze06 " <duhboze06@> wrote: > > > > Thanks for the replys Nenah, Donna, > > I'm working with some clients that are worst case scenario when it > > comes to persistent dysbiosis and failure to implant probiotics. I > > think that the ozonated water enemas could work if the enemas went > > high enough, and as regards the Homozon I wonder about the speed at > > which it releases. If it releases too quickly it would oxidize the > > small intestine. I guess I am kinda narrow minded about oral > > oxidizers. I didn't figure any compound such as that could contain > > truly therapeutic amounts of oxygen compared to ozone, and that if it > > did it would just oxidize the stomach. > > > > It's my belief that when people have bad colon dysbiosis and no > > matter how many probiotics they take they only last a day or two and > > then the colon returns to its original state, that these folks likely > > have an entire colon poisoned with microbial toxins. Fungus is > > probably a huge culprit in this since it can produce things like > > penicillum expansum and other mycotoxins. I mean this is what > > microbes do; they kill each other 24-7 in a never-ending war of > > attrition. When bad bugs rein it's like being on antibiotics all the > > time. The good bacteria never have a chance. Maybe I'm wrong but I > > think that to beat this one has to deliver enough oxygen to the > > bowel, especially the colon to kill the bugs and detoxify the > > parasite and fungal toxins which are in the colon tissues. I want to > > look into the homozon. Thanx, Jack > > > > > > > > > > You might consider adding homozon to the mix. It is a product you > > take > > > orally that releases nascent oxygen into the gut. Saul regularly > > refers > > > people to me for this product, in addition to his ozone protocol. > > > > > > You can contact me off list for more info. ruthful@ > > > > > > Another thing that is extremely helpful with candida is Inner > > Garden > > > Flora. Works freakishly well. http://www.rgarden.com > > > > > > Warmly > > > Donna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Dear Jack, The small intestine is aerobic and alkaline. The large intestine is anerobic and acidic. The large intestine houses 500 - 700 species of bacteria that perform a variety of functions. Several species of bacteria synthesize cellulases and digest cellulose (fiber). The major end products of anerobic microbial digestion of cellulose and other carbohydrates are volatile fatty acids, lactic acid, methane, hydrogen and carbon dioxide. Fermentation is thus the major source of intestinal gas. More than 80% of the gas that is produced by bacteria in the colon is used up by other bacteria within the colon. Volatile fatty acids (acetic, proprionic and butyric acids) generated from fermentation are absorbed by passive diffusion into the colon blood vessels. Butyric acid, formed from bacterial growth on fiber, is known to be anti-carcinogenic. The large intestine also absorbs water-soluble vitamins and electrolytes that are created by these bacteria inhabiting the colon. These bacteria also produce small amounts of vitamins, especially vitamin K and vitamins B12, B1 (thiamine), B2 (riboflavin), and B9 (folic acid) for absorption into the blood. Although this source of vitamins generally provides only a small part of the daily requirement, it makes a significant contribution when dietary vitamin intake is low. The most prevalent bacteria are the bacteroides. Bifidobacteria are also abundant, and are often described as 'friendly bacteria'. Other bacteria found here include: Enterobacteria, Streptococcus faecalis, Eubacterium, Peptococcus, Peptostreptococcus, Ruminococcus, Clostridia and Lactobacilli. These bacteria have already adapted to their specific environment and studies have shown that it is very difficult for newly introduced bacteria to compete against already established bacteria and in most cases the newly introduced bacteria lose and die off. If anerobic bacteria from the large intestine migrate upward into the small intestine through the ileo-coecal valve that is stuck open, or due to poor peristaltic action, irritable bowel syndrome can result. Homozon would address this well, as it will oxygenate the small intestine, and eliminate the anerobic bacteria. Ozonated water will do the same. Daily consumption of yogurt with live bacterial cultures present would be well advised. The following have a place in treating for candida: garlic, thyme, ginger, cinnamon, basil, cloves, cabbage juice, golden seal, capryllic acid, pau d'arco, aloe vera, L. acidophilus, L. bifidus, Co-Q10 and zinc. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman Re: Treating colon dysbiosisi with ozone Thanks for the replys Nenah, Donna, I'm working with some clients that are worst case scenario when it comes to persistent dysbiosis and failure to implant probiotics. I think that the ozonated water enemas could work if the enemas went high enough, and as regards the Homozon I wonder about the speed at which it releases. If it releases too quickly it would oxidize the small intestine. I guess I am kinda narrow minded about oral oxidizers. I didn't figure any compound such as that could contain truly therapeutic amounts of oxygen compared to ozone, and that if it did it would just oxidize the stomach. It's my belief that when people have bad colon dysbiosis and no matter how many probiotics they take they only last a day or two and then the colon returns to its original state, that these folks likely have an entire colon poisoned with microbial toxins. Fungus is probably a huge culprit in this since it can produce things like penicillum expansum and other mycotoxins. I mean this is what microbes do; they kill each other 24-7 in a never-ending war of attrition. When bad bugs rein it's like being on antibiotics all the time. The good bacteria never have a chance. Maybe I'm wrong but I think that to beat this one has to deliver enough oxygen to the bowel, especially the colon to kill the bugs and detoxify the parasite and fungal toxins which are in the colon tissues. I want to look into the homozon. Thanx, Jack > > You might consider adding homozon to the mix. It is a product you take > orally that releases nascent oxygen into the gut. Saul regularly refers > people to me for this product, in addition to his ozone protocol. > > You can contact me off list for more info. ruthful@... > > Another thing that is extremely helpful with candida is Inner Garden > Flora. Works freakishly well. http://www.rgarden.com > > Warmly > Donna > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Thanks for the replies. They are very helpful. > > > > You might consider adding homozon to the mix. It is a product you > take > > orally that releases nascent oxygen into the gut. Saul regularly > refers > > people to me for this product, in addition to his ozone protocol. > > > > You can contact me off list for more info. ruthful@ > > > > Another thing that is extremely helpful with candida is Inner > Garden > > Flora. Works freakishly well. http://www.rgarden.com > > > > Warmly > > Donna > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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