Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hi , I don't know anything about the Vibra machine, but did check out the site. Thought I would suggest a rebounder for less than the $400 Vibra. With the rebounder you exercise every 'cell' as well, as every muscle, as well as getting the lymphatic system up and running. Might be something you want to think about. Can't remember the cost of a good one, tho. Seems like it's around $250 or so. Gail - In oxyplus , Ellis <lellis4563@...> wrote: > > As I've mentioned before, I'm working with an ND, to correct several issues: > > Hormones - (post-menopausal) > Weight - (need to lose about 80 pounds) > Back pain - (also working with a Chiropractor - got rid of hip pain, but the lower back is a real > problem.) > Blood Pressure - got my first Systolic below 120 in about three years! Diastolic still in the > 90s. > > The ND has suggested I look at www.TheVibraFit.com. This is well within my financial means, but > I'm having a problem understanding how it can do what it claims. I was wondering if anybody here > on this list had a better understanding, and could provide some advice..... > > Thanks! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hi, , I'm new to this list. I also own and sell the TurboSonic Whole Body Vibrational Exercise and Therapy machine. I can't comment on the VibraFit since I've not tried it. But the benefits of vibrational exercise are real. They've been great for me. Noticeably more energy, much less cellulite, more muscle in my arms and legs, more relaxation and better mood, among other things. I heard that Dr. Dean Edell was speaking on the radio about them just last weekend. He actually recommended people stay away from the lower-cost ($500) models and go with the heavy-duty ones. The TurboSonic is probably the highest quality machine and runs for $13,000. It's extremely sturdy (it weighs almost 400 lbs.) It also works based on sound waves versus mechanical vibration, so it's smooth and fluid on the body, and the vibrations reach almost equally at the head as at the feet, which is unusual for a WBV. For what you want, you probably would do better to pay $300 for an excellent rebounder. Just don't raise your heels off the surface. That's the mistake most people make. You'll need to do it for much longer, say, a good two hours, to get the benefits you'd get in 10 minutes of vibrating. But half an hour is all most people really need. I've been doing a lot of deep cleansing and healing, so the Turbosonic really gets my lymph moving and my drainage going. It's the ultimate lymph-mover and blockage-opener. A friend who had pain and swelling in one of her breasts did 7 minutes on it, and the pain and swelling went away entirely. That was 3 months ago with no sign of return. Nadine At 07:09 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote: >As I've mentioned before, I'm working with an ND, to correct several issues: > >Hormones - (post-menopausal) >Weight - (need to lose about 80 pounds) >Back pain - (also working with a Chiropractor - got rid of hip pain, but >the lower back is a real >problem.) >Blood Pressure - got my first Systolic below 120 in about three years! >Diastolic still in the >90s. > >The ND has suggested I look at www.TheVibraFit.com. This is well within my >financial means, but >I'm having a problem understanding how it can do what it claims. I was >wondering if anybody here >on this list had a better understanding, and could provide some advice..... > >Thanks! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Also, you'd want to try it out a number of times before buying any WBV machine, especially with your health conditions. The TurboSonic company claims that their machine helps to balance hormones, I believe because it helps clear out toxins, increases oxygenation, and helps the body work more efficiently overall. Weight loss is pretty much universal with WBVs. Back pain can decrease, but you want to pay attention to your posture and not slump while on it, but use good posture that will strengthen the muscles around the spine. Blood pressure is an unknown. No obvious reason to be a contraindication, but since the machines increase circulation a lot, there may be a slight temporary increase in blood pressure for you while you're on it. Nadine >Hormones - (post-menopausal) >Weight - (need to lose about 80 pounds) >Back pain - (also working with a Chiropractor - got rid of hip pain, but >the lower back is a real >problem.) >Blood Pressure - got my first Systolic below 120 in about three years! >Diastolic still in the >90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 For hip and back pain check out egoscue.com He has a great group of exercises to help. Also has a call in radio show every saturday. I highly recommend his book " Pain Free " Got rid of my knee pain experienced when walking up an down steps in no time at all. Just did a few exercises to change the tip of my pelvis. Quoting Ellis <lellis4563@...>: > As I've mentioned before, I'm working with an ND, to correct several issues: > > Hormones - (post-menopausal) > Weight - (need to lose about 80 pounds) > Back pain - (also working with a Chiropractor - got rid of hip pain, but the > lower back is a real > problem.) > Blood Pressure - got my first Systolic below 120 in about three years! > Diastolic still in the > 90s. > > The ND has suggested I look at www.TheVibraFit.com. This is well within my > financial means, but > I'm having a problem understanding how it can do what it claims. I was > wondering if anybody here > on this list had a better understanding, and could provide some advice..... > > Thanks! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Thank you for the tip - I am already doing similar exercises prescribed by my chiropractor, although mine are with an exercise ball. I am really looking for comments on the VibraFit. --- sdmedic5@... wrote: > For hip and back pain check out egoscue.com > He has a great group of exercises to help. Also has a call in radio > show every saturday. I highly recommend his book " Pain Free " > Got rid of my knee pain experienced when walking up an down steps in > no time at all. Just did a few exercises to change the tip of my pelvis. > > Quoting Ellis <lellis4563@...>: > > > As I've mentioned before, I'm working with an ND, to correct several issues: > > > > Hormones - (post-menopausal) > > Weight - (need to lose about 80 pounds) > > Back pain - (also working with a Chiropractor - got rid of hip pain, but the > > lower back is a real > > problem.) > > Blood Pressure - got my first Systolic below 120 in about three years! > > Diastolic still in the > > 90s. > > > > The ND has suggested I look at www.TheVibraFit.com. This is well within my > > financial means, but > > I'm having a problem understanding how it can do what it claims. I was > > wondering if anybody here > > on this list had a better understanding, and could provide some advice..... > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Hi, Nadine - thanks for the comments! But $13,000 and 400 pounds in weight is definitely out of the question for me. First, as we are planning to retire, the budget won't handle it - and second, since we're going to hit the road in our RV and I'm also trying to put together my health maintenance stuff to take along, I have to be concerned with how much everything weighs, and its portability. I have a rebounder already (a good one, that folds up for travel). I can certainly pick up the time I spend on it. I'd be very interested in trying out one of these WBV machines. Is it possible for you to find out if there's a facility in the Chicago area (preferably near north or west side, or western suburbs), where I might go and try out this machine for a few visits? If you can pass that info along, I'd be very appreciative! Ellis --- " Nadine Winocur, Psy.D. " <drnadinel@...> wrote: > Hi, , > > I'm new to this list. I also own and sell the TurboSonic Whole Body > Vibrational Exercise and Therapy machine. I can't comment on the VibraFit > since I've not tried it. But the benefits of vibrational exercise are > real. They've been great for me. Noticeably more energy, much less > cellulite, more muscle in my arms and legs, more relaxation and better > mood, among other things. > > I heard that Dr. Dean Edell was speaking on the radio about them just last > weekend. He actually recommended people stay away from the lower-cost > ($500) models and go with the heavy-duty ones. The TurboSonic is probably > the highest quality machine and runs for $13,000. It's extremely sturdy > (it weighs almost 400 lbs.) It also works based on sound waves versus > mechanical vibration, so it's smooth and fluid on the body, and the > vibrations reach almost equally at the head as at the feet, which is > unusual for a WBV. > > For what you want, you probably would do better to pay $300 for an > excellent rebounder. Just don't raise your heels off the surface. That's > the mistake most people make. You'll need to do it for much longer, say, a > good two hours, to get the benefits you'd get in 10 minutes of > vibrating. But half an hour is all most people really need. I've been > doing a lot of deep cleansing and healing, so the Turbosonic really gets my > lymph moving and my drainage going. It's the ultimate lymph-mover and > blockage-opener. A friend who had pain and swelling in one of her breasts > did 7 minutes on it, and the pain and swelling went away entirely. That > was 3 months ago with no sign of return. > > Nadine > > > > > > At 07:09 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote: > > >As I've mentioned before, I'm working with an ND, to correct several issues: > > > >Hormones - (post-menopausal) > >Weight - (need to lose about 80 pounds) > >Back pain - (also working with a Chiropractor - got rid of hip pain, but > >the lower back is a real > >problem.) > >Blood Pressure - got my first Systolic below 120 in about three years! > >Diastolic still in the > >90s. > > > >The ND has suggested I look at www.TheVibraFit.com. This is well within my > >financial means, but > >I'm having a problem understanding how it can do what it claims. I was > >wondering if anybody here > >on this list had a better understanding, and could provide some advice..... > > > >Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 , I hope you realize that I was trying to talk about WBVs in general, and just referring to my experiene with my Turbo as one example, and NOT to sell you on the TurboSonic. I know it's outside of the budget of most folks. It's a no-brainer choice for health care practitioners who charge per use or bill to insurance since they make money on it. To learn what's in the Chicago area I recommend you call Sonic Health Systems or write them --see their contact info on the website www.sonichealthsystems.com. Cheers, Nadine At 04:30 AM 11/18/2006, you wrote: >Hi, Nadine - thanks for the comments! But $13,000 and 400 pounds in weight >is definitely out of >the question for me. First, as we are planning to retire, the budget won't >handle it - and >second, since we're going to hit the road in our RV and I'm also trying to >put together my health >maintenance stuff to take along, I have to be concerned with how much >everything weighs, and its >portability. > >I have a rebounder already (a good one, that folds up for travel). I can >certainly pick up the >time I spend on it. > >I'd be very interested in trying out one of these WBV machines. Is it >possible for you to find >out if there's a facility in the Chicago area (preferably near north or >west side, or western >suburbs), where I might go and try out this machine for a few visits? > >If you can pass that info along, I'd be very appreciative! > > Ellis > >--- " Nadine Winocur, Psy.D. " ><<mailto:drnadinel%40drnadinewinocur.com>drnadinel@...> wrote: > > > Hi, , > > > > I'm new to this list. I also own and sell the TurboSonic Whole Body > > Vibrational Exercise and Therapy machine. I can't comment on the VibraFit > > since I've not tried it. But the benefits of vibrational exercise are > > real. They've been great for me. Noticeably more energy, much less > > cellulite, more muscle in my arms and legs, more relaxation and better > > mood, among other things. > > > > I heard that Dr. Dean Edell was speaking on the radio about them just last > > weekend. He actually recommended people stay away from the lower-cost > > ($500) models and go with the heavy-duty ones. The TurboSonic is probably > > the highest quality machine and runs for $13,000. It's extremely sturdy > > (it weighs almost 400 lbs.) It also works based on sound waves versus > > mechanical vibration, so it's smooth and fluid on the body, and the > > vibrations reach almost equally at the head as at the feet, which is > > unusual for a WBV. > > > > For what you want, you probably would do better to pay $300 for an > > excellent rebounder. Just don't raise your heels off the surface. That's > > the mistake most people make. You'll need to do it for much longer, say, a > > good two hours, to get the benefits you'd get in 10 minutes of > > vibrating. But half an hour is all most people really need. I've been > > doing a lot of deep cleansing and healing, so the Turbosonic really > gets my > > lymph moving and my drainage going. It's the ultimate lymph-mover and > > blockage-opener. A friend who had pain and swelling in one of her breasts > > did 7 minutes on it, and the pain and swelling went away entirely. That > > was 3 months ago with no sign of return. > > > > Nadine > > > > > > > > > > > > At 07:09 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote: > > > > >As I've mentioned before, I'm working with an ND, to correct several > issues: > > > > > >Hormones - (post-menopausal) > > >Weight - (need to lose about 80 pounds) > > >Back pain - (also working with a Chiropractor - got rid of hip pain, but > > >the lower back is a real > > >problem.) > > >Blood Pressure - got my first Systolic below 120 in about three years! > > >Diastolic still in the > > >90s. > > > > > >The ND has suggested I look at www.TheVibraFit.com. This is well > within my > > >financial means, but > > >I'm having a problem understanding how it can do what it claims. I was > > >wondering if anybody here > > >on this list had a better understanding, and could provide some > advice..... > > > > > >Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 , I hope you realize that I was trying to talk about WBVs in general, and just referring to my experiene with my Turbo as one example, and NOT to sell you on the TurboSonic. I know it's outside of the budget of most folks. It's a no-brainer choice for health care practitioners who charge per use or bill to insurance since they make money on it. To learn what's in the Chicago area I recommend you call Sonic Health Systems or write them --see their contact info on the website www.sonichealthsystems.com. Cheers, Nadine At 04:30 AM 11/18/2006, you wrote: >Hi, Nadine - thanks for the comments! But $13,000 and 400 pounds in weight >is definitely out of >the question for me. First, as we are planning to retire, the budget won't >handle it - and >second, since we're going to hit the road in our RV and I'm also trying to >put together my health >maintenance stuff to take along, I have to be concerned with how much >everything weighs, and its >portability. > >I have a rebounder already (a good one, that folds up for travel). I can >certainly pick up the >time I spend on it. > >I'd be very interested in trying out one of these WBV machines. Is it >possible for you to find >out if there's a facility in the Chicago area (preferably near north or >west side, or western >suburbs), where I might go and try out this machine for a few visits? > >If you can pass that info along, I'd be very appreciative! > > Ellis > >--- " Nadine Winocur, Psy.D. " ><<mailto:drnadinel%40drnadinewinocur.com>drnadinel@...> wrote: > > > Hi, , > > > > I'm new to this list. I also own and sell the TurboSonic Whole Body > > Vibrational Exercise and Therapy machine. I can't comment on the VibraFit > > since I've not tried it. But the benefits of vibrational exercise are > > real. They've been great for me. Noticeably more energy, much less > > cellulite, more muscle in my arms and legs, more relaxation and better > > mood, among other things. > > > > I heard that Dr. Dean Edell was speaking on the radio about them just last > > weekend. He actually recommended people stay away from the lower-cost > > ($500) models and go with the heavy-duty ones. The TurboSonic is probably > > the highest quality machine and runs for $13,000. It's extremely sturdy > > (it weighs almost 400 lbs.) It also works based on sound waves versus > > mechanical vibration, so it's smooth and fluid on the body, and the > > vibrations reach almost equally at the head as at the feet, which is > > unusual for a WBV. > > > > For what you want, you probably would do better to pay $300 for an > > excellent rebounder. Just don't raise your heels off the surface. That's > > the mistake most people make. You'll need to do it for much longer, say, a > > good two hours, to get the benefits you'd get in 10 minutes of > > vibrating. But half an hour is all most people really need. I've been > > doing a lot of deep cleansing and healing, so the Turbosonic really > gets my > > lymph moving and my drainage going. It's the ultimate lymph-mover and > > blockage-opener. A friend who had pain and swelling in one of her breasts > > did 7 minutes on it, and the pain and swelling went away entirely. That > > was 3 months ago with no sign of return. > > > > Nadine > > > > > > > > > > > > At 07:09 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote: > > > > >As I've mentioned before, I'm working with an ND, to correct several > issues: > > > > > >Hormones - (post-menopausal) > > >Weight - (need to lose about 80 pounds) > > >Back pain - (also working with a Chiropractor - got rid of hip pain, but > > >the lower back is a real > > >problem.) > > >Blood Pressure - got my first Systolic below 120 in about three years! > > >Diastolic still in the > > >90s. > > > > > >The ND has suggested I look at www.TheVibraFit.com. This is well > within my > > >financial means, but > > >I'm having a problem understanding how it can do what it claims. I was > > >wondering if anybody here > > >on this list had a better understanding, and could provide some > advice..... > > > > > >Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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