Re: medical marijuana question

[Guest guest]

Jen, I have tried it for other pain but not the Stills. don't want

anything in my lungs since I quit cigerettes. Brownies, now that is a

thought, except, I am in the Stills weight loss group and they may not like

it, I would be afraid of potential side effects or problems with the liver.

I am also paranoid that they would find it in my blood test maybe because MN

is so anal and they drug test everyone here. Not that I am a druggie or

anything but I think we are way behind the times when it comes to pain

control and if Marijuana or herion or opium work, then why not!!

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

lynndude@...

-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

-- medical marijuana question

This post is going to talk about illegal drugs so if you dont want to read

about it then deletenow.

Okay, just wondering if anyone here has used marijuana for pain or possible

muscle pain or trouble sleeping and if so does it seem to help? I know

that for the states that do have the medical marijuana act arthritis is

supposed to be one of the conditions allowed if your doc writes the script

or has anyone tried the marinol pills? Unfortunalty I live in a state

that doesnt allow it and I've at times wondered if this wouldnt be better

than the pain meds with tylenol in it but I dont like to smoke in the first

place so that's why I've never tried it, but I was told you could cook it

in brownies, works the same as long as you do it correctly so that the THC

releases in the cooking oil, but then you would get stoned and I dont

really want that either, Im just sick of the darvocet/tylenol thing.

GO DAWGS !!!!!

[Guest guest]

> I dont like to smoke in the first

> place so that's why I've never tried it

One of my boyfriends in the 70's was into pot. YUCK!!! It might work on some

people, but they must be different from me. I've only smoked it once and had

brownies twice. The smoke gives me real bad asthma attacks....even if I'm just

in the same room and both times the brownies made me lose huge chunks of time.

The only way I can see it offering relief is that you forget you are alive.

Not my cup of tea.

***Im just sick of the darvocet/tylenol thing.***

Well....I never liked them, either. And forget narcotics! They make me itchy

and it's hard to breathe. My drug of choice is 800 mg of Motrin one to three

times a day. I take it with Prevacid. NOTHING else has ever worked on me and I

think I have tried most arthritis pills.

(wsm311@...)

Peace and Carrots Farm

Vermont

http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/

http://www.sHikingHiatus.com/

[Guest guest]

> I dont like to smoke in the first

> place so that's why I've never tried it

One of my boyfriends in the 70's was into pot. YUCK!!! It might work on some

people, but they must be different from me. I've only smoked it once and had

brownies twice. The smoke gives me real bad asthma attacks....even if I'm just

in the same room and both times the brownies made me lose huge chunks of time.

The only way I can see it offering relief is that you forget you are alive.

Not my cup of tea.

***Im just sick of the darvocet/tylenol thing.***

Well....I never liked them, either. And forget narcotics! They make me itchy

and it's hard to breathe. My drug of choice is 800 mg of Motrin one to three

times a day. I take it with Prevacid. NOTHING else has ever worked on me and I

think I have tried most arthritis pills.

(wsm311@...)

Peace and Carrots Farm

Vermont

http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/

http://www.sHikingHiatus.com/

[Guest guest]

ill confess lol ive tried and do still once in awhile.When i was

hurting i had sum call it experiment for the group whatever u will.Acually to

tell you the honest truth it did very little for my pain it did however give me

the munchies and yes it does just really make me sleepy too.Its a drug that

burns me out takes the energy away that is just wanna couch out and watch a

movie,it also does make me a little paranoid too cant be around crowds.But this

is just me like other drugs i know marijuna also effects people differntly,but

as for me like i said it didnt really take any of the pain away maybe for others

it would be dif who knows.Also as for the addictivness of it in my case it hasnt

been a problem but to sum it is a very addictive drug,i know we all know a few

lol.Anyhow take care just my 2 cents worth. d.Canada

medical marijuana question

This post is going to talk about illegal drugs so if you dont want to read

about it then deletenow.

Okay, just wondering if anyone here has used marijuana for pain or possible

muscle pain or trouble sleeping and if so does it seem to help? I know

that for the states that do have the medical marijuana act arthritis is

supposed to be one of the conditions allowed if your doc writes the script

or has anyone tried the marinol pills? Unfortunalty I live in a state

that doesnt allow it and I've at times wondered if this wouldnt be better

than the pain meds with tylenol in it but I dont like to smoke in the first

place so that's why I've never tried it, but I was told you could cook it

in brownies, works the same as long as you do it correctly so that the THC

releases in the cooking oil, but then you would get stoned and I dont

really want that either, Im just sick of the darvocet/tylenol thing.

GO DAWGS !!!!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/5/2003 1:19:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

gobulldawgs@... writes:

> Okay, just wondering if anyone here has used marijuana for pain or possible

> muscle pain or trouble sleeping and if so does it seem to help? I know

> that for the states that do have the medical marijuana act arthritis is

> supposed to be one of the conditions allowed if your doc writes the script

> or has anyone tried the marinol pills? Unfortunalty I live in a state

> that doesnt allow it and I've at times wondered if this wouldnt be better

> than the pain meds with tylenol in it but I dont like to smoke in the first

> place so that's why I've never tried it, but I was told you could cook it

> in brownies, works the same as long as you do it correctly so that the THC

> releases in the cooking oil, but then you would get stoned and I dont

> really want that either, Im just sick of the darvocet/tylenol thing.

>

>

Hello All,

And happy day after the 4th! Thought I had to come out of the

background and respond to this one. I hadn't used pot in years and years and

about 6

months ago, tried some again and it was like a miracle. I was painfree and slept

like a baby. However, as I began taking it - I needed more and more to get

the same effect. And like our painpills, it seems to stop working after a bit.

At least for me. But I stopped for a month and tried again and it worked again.

As for me, it never has given me the munchies - lucky I know. Now I do it

just every once in a while. I too would love to see it legalized. I love the

sleep it gives me - haven't slept like that since pre-stills.

Hope everyone feels good.

Love Carole

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/5/2003 1:19:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

gobulldawgs@... writes:

> Okay, just wondering if anyone here has used marijuana for pain or possible

> muscle pain or trouble sleeping and if so does it seem to help? I know

> that for the states that do have the medical marijuana act arthritis is

> supposed to be one of the conditions allowed if your doc writes the script

> or has anyone tried the marinol pills? Unfortunalty I live in a state

> that doesnt allow it and I've at times wondered if this wouldnt be better

> than the pain meds with tylenol in it but I dont like to smoke in the first

> place so that's why I've never tried it, but I was told you could cook it

> in brownies, works the same as long as you do it correctly so that the THC

> releases in the cooking oil, but then you would get stoned and I dont

> really want that either, Im just sick of the darvocet/tylenol thing.

>

>

Hello All,

And happy day after the 4th! Thought I had to come out of the

background and respond to this one. I hadn't used pot in years and years and

about 6

months ago, tried some again and it was like a miracle. I was painfree and slept

like a baby. However, as I began taking it - I needed more and more to get

the same effect. And like our painpills, it seems to stop working after a bit.

At least for me. But I stopped for a month and tried again and it worked again.

As for me, it never has given me the munchies - lucky I know. Now I do it

just every once in a while. I too would love to see it legalized. I love the

sleep it gives me - haven't slept like that since pre-stills.

Hope everyone feels good.

Love Carole

[Guest guest]

,

If the Marijuana ever becomes legal in Wisconsin...I'm first in line.

(well, maybe not first, but in the line!) I've heard on a TV program,

that the pill form isn't as effective as the smoke form. Putting

it in..say..brownies is interesting. I too am so sick of the Darvocet,

and Tylenol. It seems lately when I take either one, that they give

me extreme insomnia, and " maybe " take the edge off off pain,

and know they aren't good for the liver.

~~tricia~~

Wisconsin

*****************************************************************************

-- medical marijuana question

This post is going to talk about illegal drugs so if you dont want to read

about it then deletenow.

Okay, just wondering if anyone here has used marijuana for pain or possible

muscle pain or trouble sleeping and if so does it seem to help? I know

that for the states that do have the medical marijuana act arthritis is

supposed to be one of the conditions allowed if your doc writes the script

or has anyone tried the marinol pills? Unfortunalty I live in a state

that doesnt allow it and I've at times wondered if this wouldnt be better

than the pain meds with tylenol in it but I dont like to smoke in the first

place so that's why I've never tried it, but I was told you could cook it

in brownies, works the same as long as you do it correctly so that the THC

releases in the cooking oil, but then you would get stoned and I dont

really want that either, Im just sick of the darvocet/tylenol thing.

GO DAWGS !!!!!

[Guest guest]

thanks everyone for your info, I cant take any NSAIDS at all so Im

limited to tylenol or opiods for pain control and with my other hip on the

verge of needing replaced Im having constant pain now and taking 4

Darvocet's a day, sometimes more which is not good. Lynn, I understand

what you are saying about the liver, if you make it in the brownies then all

the thc is metabolized in the liver and since it's fat soluble that is why

it stores in your fat cells and can take a month to excrete fully from your

body. I guess when smoking it bypasses the liver, but then you deal with

the smoke/lung issues. But Ive been wondering if maybe even going the oral

route if maybe it's safer on the liver than the tylenol. Cause we know what

tylenol can do to your liver.

What got me thinking about it recently is my next door neighbor has

tourettes's syndrome and I was doing some research for him on botox

injections for tourettes and I came across alot of info on marijuana use for

tourette's so I mentioned it to him and he has used it and said it

completely relieves his tics for several hours, sometimes up to 12 hours.

Anyway in reading about how it helped tourette's it also went into that it

could help with pain etc. And the other night I was up all night with my

hip hurting and I took 2 darvocet and it still didnt relieve the pain, I

hate when the pain is like that, thankfully the pain doesnt get that bad

every day, most days I can tolerate the pain as long as I take darvocet or

tylenol. So the more I read the more I wondered about it, then I read about

how you could cook it, and how it chemically works when binded with a fat

substance, it made sense and since I wouldnt have to smoke it, it became

alot more appealing. Still havent made up my mind if Im going to try it or

not, I may just to experiment, I pretty much lay around all weekend when Im

not working anyway and do nothing so I guess the effects wouldnt be much of

a change from my normal lifestyle at the moment. LOL..

Anyway, again thanks for your info and advice.

GO DAWGS !!!!!

[Guest guest]

> If I could figure out how to get the opium

> out of poppies I would grow some!! lol

>

>

That's actually pretty easy to do....by making tea. Strictly speaking, it's

not quite legal to grow opium poppies, yet they are the same as the poppies you

get poppy seed from.

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I hate narcotics, so I have never tried poppy tea. But....I have grown many

varieties of Papaver Somniferum for seeds to cook with. We *love* poppyseed

cake ;-)

(wsm311@...)

Peace and Carrots Farm

Vermont

http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/

http://www.sHikingHiatus.com/

[Guest guest]

> If I could figure out how to get the opium

> out of poppies I would grow some!! lol

>

>

That's actually pretty easy to do....by making tea. Strictly speaking, it's

not quite legal to grow opium poppies, yet they are the same as the poppies you

get poppy seed from.

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g/plants/poppy/poppy_info2.shtml</A>

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g/store/seeds/starterkit.shtml</A>

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>http://www.poppiesinternational.com/olddevelopment/poppy_recipes/tea.html</A>

wink, wink ;-)

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cipes/poppy.html</A>

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I hate narcotics, so I have never tried poppy tea. But....I have grown many

varieties of Papaver Somniferum for seeds to cook with. We *love* poppyseed

cake ;-)

(wsm311@...)

Peace and Carrots Farm

Vermont

http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/

http://www.sHikingHiatus.com/

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

Yes, I am still alive. As for marijuana, you betcha this one has been there.

I've got mixed emotions. In the beginning, it did help. As my lungs got

worse though, I was unable to smoke. Recently, I have tried it and the results

have been disastrous. It seems that my pain actually intensifies rather than

getting better and of course it doesn't help my lungs either. So, it's a moot

point. I do like the idea of brownies. You get a buzz and control of your

munchies if you get them. LOLOLOL. Unfortunately, for me, I'm not able to

partake in it anymore. I'm still an old hippie at heart though! One of these

days, hopefully it will be legalized. I definitely support legalization. Hang

in there.

Much love,

Terry

[Guest guest]

That is true !

It makes me incredibly happy and giggly, but with an addictive personality I

don't mess with it. I know several people that have gone thru treatment

because they got hooked bad.

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

lynndude@...

-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

-- Re: medical marijuana question

ill confess lol ive tried and do still once in awhile.When i was

hurting i had sum call it experiment for the group whatever u will.Acually

to tell you the honest truth it did very little for my pain it did however

give me the munchies and yes it does just really make me sleepy too.Its a

drug that burns me out takes the energy away that is just wanna couch out

and watch a movie,it also does make me a little paranoid too cant be around

crowds.But this is just me like other drugs i know marijuna also effects

people differntly,but as for me like i said it didnt really take any of the

pain away maybe for others it would be dif who knows.Also as for the

addictivness of it in my case it hasnt been a problem but to sum it is a

very addictive drug,i know we all know a few lol.Anyhow take care just my 2

cents worth. d.Canada

medical marijuana question

This post is going to talk about illegal drugs so if you dont want to read

about it then deletenow.

Okay, just wondering if anyone here has used marijuana for pain or

possible

muscle pain or trouble sleeping and if so does it seem to help? I know

that for the states that do have the medical marijuana act arthritis is

supposed to be one of the conditions allowed if your doc writes the script

or has anyone tried the marinol pills? Unfortunalty I live in a state

that doesnt allow it and I've at times wondered if this wouldnt be better

than the pain meds with tylenol in it but I dont like to smoke in the

first

place so that's why I've never tried it, but I was told you could cook it

in brownies, works the same as long as you do it correctly so that the THC

releases in the cooking oil, but then you would get stoned and I dont

really want that either, Im just sick of the darvocet/tylenol thing.

GO DAWGS !!!!!

[Guest guest]

That is true !

It makes me incredibly happy and giggly, but with an addictive personality I

don't mess with it. I know several people that have gone thru treatment

because they got hooked bad.

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

lynndude@...

-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

-- Re: medical marijuana question

ill confess lol ive tried and do still once in awhile.When i was

hurting i had sum call it experiment for the group whatever u will.Acually

to tell you the honest truth it did very little for my pain it did however

give me the munchies and yes it does just really make me sleepy too.Its a

drug that burns me out takes the energy away that is just wanna couch out

and watch a movie,it also does make me a little paranoid too cant be around

crowds.But this is just me like other drugs i know marijuna also effects

people differntly,but as for me like i said it didnt really take any of the

pain away maybe for others it would be dif who knows.Also as for the

addictivness of it in my case it hasnt been a problem but to sum it is a

very addictive drug,i know we all know a few lol.Anyhow take care just my 2

cents worth. d.Canada

medical marijuana question

This post is going to talk about illegal drugs so if you dont want to read

about it then deletenow.

Okay, just wondering if anyone here has used marijuana for pain or

possible

muscle pain or trouble sleeping and if so does it seem to help? I know

that for the states that do have the medical marijuana act arthritis is

supposed to be one of the conditions allowed if your doc writes the script

or has anyone tried the marinol pills? Unfortunalty I live in a state

that doesnt allow it and I've at times wondered if this wouldnt be better

than the pain meds with tylenol in it but I dont like to smoke in the

first

place so that's why I've never tried it, but I was told you could cook it

in brownies, works the same as long as you do it correctly so that the THC

releases in the cooking oil, but then you would get stoned and I dont

really want that either, Im just sick of the darvocet/tylenol thing.

GO DAWGS !!!!!

[Guest guest]

,

If I were you I would give it a test at least, if my doctors took away my

pain meds I would hit the street in a new york minute if I thought it would

help. I really liked Ultram for the pain as it was not narcotic or nsaid.

Just can't take it with my effexor. Percocet messes up my head so my pain

is better but what good am I when I can't drive or do much else. Actually,

what good am I? Just kiddin!! If I could figure out how to get the opium

out of poppies I would grow some!! lol

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

lynndude@...

-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

-- Re: medical marijuana question

thanks everyone for your info, I cant take any NSAIDS at all so Im

limited to tylenol or opiods for pain control and with my other hip on the

verge of needing replaced Im having constant pain now and taking 4

Darvocet's a day, sometimes more which is not good. Lynn, I understand

what you are saying about the liver, if you make it in the brownies then all

the thc is metabolized in the liver and since it's fat soluble that is why

it stores in your fat cells and can take a month to excrete fully from your

body. I guess when smoking it bypasses the liver, but then you deal with

the smoke/lung issues. But Ive been wondering if maybe even going the oral

route if maybe it's safer on the liver than the tylenol. Cause we know what

tylenol can do to your liver.

What got me thinking about it recently is my next door neighbor has

tourettes's syndrome and I was doing some research for him on botox

injections for tourettes and I came across alot of info on marijuana use for

tourette's so I mentioned it to him and he has used it and said it

completely relieves his tics for several hours, sometimes up to 12 hours.

Anyway in reading about how it helped tourette's it also went into that it

could help with pain etc. And the other night I was up all night with my

hip hurting and I took 2 darvocet and it still didnt relieve the pain, I

hate when the pain is like that, thankfully the pain doesnt get that bad

every day, most days I can tolerate the pain as long as I take darvocet or

tylenol. So the more I read the more I wondered about it, then I read about

how you could cook it, and how it chemically works when binded with a fat

substance, it made sense and since I wouldnt have to smoke it, it became

alot more appealing. Still havent made up my mind if Im going to try it or

not, I may just to experiment, I pretty much lay around all weekend when Im

not working anyway and do nothing so I guess the effects wouldnt be much of

a change from my normal lifestyle at the moment. LOL..

Anyway, again thanks for your info and advice.

GO DAWGS !!!!!

[Guest guest]

,

If I were you I would give it a test at least, if my doctors took away my

pain meds I would hit the street in a new york minute if I thought it would

help. I really liked Ultram for the pain as it was not narcotic or nsaid.

Just can't take it with my effexor. Percocet messes up my head so my pain

is better but what good am I when I can't drive or do much else. Actually,

what good am I? Just kiddin!! If I could figure out how to get the opium

out of poppies I would grow some!! lol

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

lynndude@...

-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

-- Re: medical marijuana question

thanks everyone for your info, I cant take any NSAIDS at all so Im

limited to tylenol or opiods for pain control and with my other hip on the

verge of needing replaced Im having constant pain now and taking 4

Darvocet's a day, sometimes more which is not good. Lynn, I understand

what you are saying about the liver, if you make it in the brownies then all

the thc is metabolized in the liver and since it's fat soluble that is why

it stores in your fat cells and can take a month to excrete fully from your

body. I guess when smoking it bypasses the liver, but then you deal with

the smoke/lung issues. But Ive been wondering if maybe even going the oral

route if maybe it's safer on the liver than the tylenol. Cause we know what

tylenol can do to your liver.

What got me thinking about it recently is my next door neighbor has

tourettes's syndrome and I was doing some research for him on botox

injections for tourettes and I came across alot of info on marijuana use for

tourette's so I mentioned it to him and he has used it and said it

completely relieves his tics for several hours, sometimes up to 12 hours.

Anyway in reading about how it helped tourette's it also went into that it

could help with pain etc. And the other night I was up all night with my

hip hurting and I took 2 darvocet and it still didnt relieve the pain, I

hate when the pain is like that, thankfully the pain doesnt get that bad

every day, most days I can tolerate the pain as long as I take darvocet or

tylenol. So the more I read the more I wondered about it, then I read about

how you could cook it, and how it chemically works when binded with a fat

substance, it made sense and since I wouldnt have to smoke it, it became

alot more appealing. Still havent made up my mind if Im going to try it or

not, I may just to experiment, I pretty much lay around all weekend when Im

not working anyway and do nothing so I guess the effects wouldnt be much of

a change from my normal lifestyle at the moment. LOL..

Anyway, again thanks for your info and advice.

GO DAWGS !!!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Regarding the lung sensitivity, I didn't realize that marijuana had tar or

nicotine. Isn't that the bad part of smoking regular cigarettes? I don't smoke

but did grow up in the " flower child " era............. ) In those

days I did not have any pain so I couldn't tell you if it would have helped or

not. Being from California, I think marijuana is legal there for medicinal

purposes but I'm not really sure. If I were in dire pain, I'd be hitting the

street corners also or concerts as fast as these worn out knees would take me.

Easy pickings there. I never knew anyone that could not function daily or that

was addicted to it. I think one joint is far less dangerous than a six pack

of beer. I've seen a lot of mean drunks but only mellow grass smokers.

Heroin????? That's a different story!

I'd be very afraid of trying that!

Good luck, my dear....

xxoo

Carmen

[Guest guest]

Should have known our resident organic farmer would have the key !!

You are awesome !

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

lynndude@...

-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

-- Re: medical marijuana question

> If I could figure out how to get the opium

> out of poppies I would grow some!! lol

>

>

That's actually pretty easy to do....by making tea. Strictly speaking, it's

not quite legal to grow opium poppies, yet they are the same as the poppies

you

get poppy seed from.

<A HREF= " http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_info2.shtml " >http://www

erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_info2.shtml</A>

<A HREF= " http://www.poppies.org/store/seeds/starterkit.shtml " >http://www

poppies.org/store/seeds/starterkit.shtml</A>

<A HREF= " http://www.poppiesinternational

com/olddevelopment/poppy_recipes/tea.html " >http://www.poppiesinternational

com/olddevelopment/poppy_recipes/tea.html</A>

wink, wink ;-)

<A HREF= " http://www.choronzon.com/zrecipes/poppy.html " >http://www.choronzon

com/zrecipes/poppy.html</A>

<A HREF= " http://opium.poppies.org/index.php?act=Tutorials " >http://opium

poppies.org/index.php?act=Tutorials</A>

<A HREF= " http://www.poppies.org/store/books/ " >http://www.poppies

org/store/books/</A>

I hate narcotics, so I have never tried poppy tea. But....I have grown many

varieties of Papaver Somniferum for seeds to cook with. We *love* poppyseed

cake ;-)

(wsm311@...)

Peace and Carrots Farm

Vermont

http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/

http://www.sHikingHiatus.com/

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Should have known our resident organic farmer would have the key !!

You are awesome !

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

lynndude@...

-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

-- Re: medical marijuana question

> If I could figure out how to get the opium

> out of poppies I would grow some!! lol

>

>

That's actually pretty easy to do....by making tea. Strictly speaking, it's

not quite legal to grow opium poppies, yet they are the same as the poppies

you

get poppy seed from.

<A HREF= " http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_info2.shtml " >http://www

erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_info2.shtml</A>

<A HREF= " http://www.poppies.org/store/seeds/starterkit.shtml " >http://www

poppies.org/store/seeds/starterkit.shtml</A>

<A HREF= " http://www.poppiesinternational

com/olddevelopment/poppy_recipes/tea.html " >http://www.poppiesinternational

com/olddevelopment/poppy_recipes/tea.html</A>

wink, wink ;-)

<A HREF= " http://www.choronzon.com/zrecipes/poppy.html " >http://www.choronzon

com/zrecipes/poppy.html</A>

<A HREF= " http://opium.poppies.org/index.php?act=Tutorials " >http://opium

poppies.org/index.php?act=Tutorials</A>

<A HREF= " http://www.poppies.org/store/books/ " >http://www.poppies

org/store/books/</A>

I hate narcotics, so I have never tried poppy tea. But....I have grown many

varieties of Papaver Somniferum for seeds to cook with. We *love* poppyseed

cake ;-)

(wsm311@...)

Peace and Carrots Farm

Vermont

http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/

http://www.sHikingHiatus.com/

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In a message dated 7/5/2003 5:49:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

pscarmen@... writes:

> Regarding the lung sensitivity, I didn't realize that marijuana had tar or

> nicotine. Isn't that the bad part of smoking regular cigarettes?

There is 10 times the amount of tar in a joint than in a single cigarette...

I won't get into the cancer causing ingredients in the smoke -- just take it

from a former American Lung Association employee, if one must consume the

substance, smoking ain't the best way to do it...

I am SEVERELY allergic to something in the smoke of marijuana -- the last

exposure I had was while at work at the pharmacy a couple of years ago. A guy

came in and apparently had just put down his joint in the car before he came in

-- it didn't even help him -- I walked past him to help another customer. By

the time I sold them their RX my throat was closing up and I was breaking out

in hives. Not a pleasant situation..

One question Jen, did I understand you correctly that Marinol was illegal in

GA?? It isn't even a schedule II narcotic any longer! I can tell you it is

available in FL... Have many patients on it -- some for eating, some for pain,

some for both...

Kate

Largo, FL

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NO Whackey Tobackie.

I got this problem. Is called the old Piss Test. I am subjected

to that old thang for a couple of reasons. 1st is because I am a

licensed Pilot. Then the other is because of my job with the U.S.

Dept of Transportation.

Now the ole Piss test for the flight physical is pretty much a thang

you know when is going to happen, but the RANDOM test is another

thang.

Years ago I got kinda interested on how that ole whackey tobackey

would affect somebody that was sittin up in the front seat of a

airplane. I took a friend who was in the Marines and set his old

butt up in the cocpit with me and we went for a ride. He had toked

a joint just prior to the flight. Ole Timmy did pretty good, just

having a blast getting into the flight, I think he was thinking he

was a bird or something. BUT when it came time to LAND that

rascal, ole Timmy his eyes got REAL BIG. I was askin him how he

was, he no talk at all. But when we landed all he could say was "

WOW WHAT A RUSH " . He could not hardly walk when we got on the

ground. Think he had the worst case of verdigo I ever saw in my

life.

[Guest guest]

Kate, no I was talking about regular marijuanan for medical use is not legal

in GA like it is out west for CA and other states. But, my neighbor did

tell me that he asked his doc for marinol since the marijuana controlled his

tics and his doc said they couldn't prescribe marinol in GA.. I didnt know

why, I knew they could in Alabama when I worked at the assisted living

facility we had a lady on it because of lack of appetite. So really I dont

know if it is or not here. But I cant see why not. Is it no longer a

schedule II drug?

GO DAWGS !!!!!

[Guest guest]

Im all for legalzation (sp) too, I think alcohol can be worse. Okay now

what is this about making the poppy stuff, how do you do that?

GO DAWGS !!!!!

[Guest guest]

Between 1982 and 1988 I worked in a large city hospitol in the pharmacy.They

gave THC(marijuana) to cancer patients who had no appetite and to those who

were nauseated from chemo..since we are all different..if it helps pain or

anxiety..or what ever it should be able to be prescribed ...in my

oppinion...hope

everyone is ok today hugs Love Liz NJ

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Dan,

Love your gift for putting the " words " together!

I did read that after awhile the Marijuana isn't effective as at first,

and then a good many people go on to Heroin.

With all the great technology out there, I wonder why they can't

come up with something better for pain that doesn't have any,

(or managable) side effects...I know some of the pain meds

help some very nicely, but there are others (like me) who for

one reason or another either can not tolerate those meds, or

they are ineffective.

Jen, I am sorry you are in the " pain situation " with your hip that

I've been in with shoulders and knee. Yes, most of my pain was

at night also. Some bad times those were. The pain I experience

now is mostly from the Periphial Neuoropathy, and that is being

controlled by Neurontin. But, somewhere down the road when I

have to have the bones fused in the right foot, I'm going to need

some good pain meds that work....and there won't be any. The

Morphine & Demoral I am now allerigc to.

~~tricia~~

Wisconsin

p.s. Dan, I am happy that Timmy did get the plane landed!

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-- Re: medical marijuana question

NO Whackey Tobackie.

I got this problem. Is called the old Piss Test. I am subjected

to that old thang for a couple of reasons. 1st is because I am a

licensed Pilot. Then the other is because of my job with the U.S.

Dept of Transportation.

Now the ole Piss test for the flight physical is pretty much a thang

you know when is going to happen, but the RANDOM test is another

thang.

Years ago I got kinda interested on how that ole whackey tobackey

would affect somebody that was sittin up in the front seat of a

airplane. I took a friend who was in the Marines and set his old

butt up in the cocpit with me and we went for a ride. He had toked

a joint just prior to the flight. Ole Timmy did pretty good, just

having a blast getting into the flight, I think he was thinking he

was a bird or something. BUT when it came time to LAND that

rascal, ole Timmy his eyes got REAL BIG. I was askin him how he

was, he no talk at all. But when we landed all he could say was "

WOW WHAT A RUSH " . He could not hardly walk when we got on the

ground. Think he had the worst case of verdigo I ever saw in my

life.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/6/2003 2:41:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

gobulldawgs@... writes:

> Is it no longer a

> schedule II drug?

>

No, it is now schedule III -- we no longer have it have a safe in the fridge

at work -- good think too -- we just got a new one because of the high volume

of refridgeratables we do, and I wouldn't have been able to fit everything in

if it had been in there.. Now all the different marinols have their own

shelf... Maybe you should ask again -- or get an rx and take a trip down to

FL....

Love,

Kate