Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Hi JP. Personally I prefer serrapeptase to EDTA Not only does it clean out the arteries quickly, it also cleans out scar tissue and fibroid cysts in breasts and uterous. It also eliminates inflammation everywhere in the body, which is why Neenah recommended it for carpel tunnel. It also eliminates or greatly reduces varicose veins and eliminates blood clots. It is phenomenal for lung issues like asbestosis and emphysema and cyctic fibrosis. The benefits are vast and varied and so are the testimonies. Here is must one of my most favorite: " The first dramatic effect that I experienced was with a man in his 60's who had been a heavy smoker for many years. His wife wheeled him from a special van and into my pharmacy. He was very breathless in his voice and was difficult to understand because he had emphysema and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). These are considered to be irreversible damage to the linings of the lungs, usually caused by smoking or toxic enviroments. Whereas asthma may be considered reversible, COPD is an irreversible disease. Normally with this, the only thing we can do is to relieve or help with, say, and oxygen tank or sprays to open the airways, or steroid sprays that help to stop inflammation. This man said he had heard me on the BBC radio program talking about the studies, saying that it had helped to maintain the airways of people with breathing problems by helping to break down the damaged tissue that had built up over their lifetime, whether due to smoking or things like working with chemicals. He told me he was on sprays, on oxygen , and on antibiotics every two weeks, as he was always getting bad infections, and breathlessly told me he wanted to try Serrapeptase. To begin with, he took two 20,000 iu tablets on an empty stomach, four times per day. Later he reduced to four per day of the 40.000 iu capsules and finally, as a maintanance, he reduced to a couple per day. Three weeks later the door opened, and this man, whom I had met only once (sitting in a wheel chair) walked in and said, in a completely clear voice, with no breathlessness, " Do you remember me? I was in three weeks ago with my wife. " I had to apologize that I see so many people, and could he remind me. He then reminded me that he was the person with emphysema/COPD. This 6' tall person, who had been in a wheelchair previously, had marched out of his van, no wife with him, no wheelchair with him, and spoke to me in a clear voice. He told me that in the early days, so much rubbish was coming up that he thought his lungs might be disintegrating, but he soon realized that it was a big clearout underway. He started to feel so much better, and he was no longer on antibiotics, no longer on oxygen cylinders, and he was no longer using his sprays. He was still smoking ( eee gads!) and he had booked a holiday to go to Benidorm, in Spain. He is still a regular visitor to the shop to get supplies. He brings other people along, buttonholes other people in the shop, and praises Serrapeptase, if he hears them ask about it. He is still so thrilled after two years of feeling good. " (shared by Redfern) end quote It also helps with adhesions Nephritis MS Chronic Cough Back pain Knee Pain Joint pain in general Asthama Ankylosing spondylitis Repetitive Strain Injury All scars and lesions Polymyalgia Rheumatica Fibromyalgia Enlarged Prostate Leg Ulcers Diabetic Neuropathy Pulmonary Tuberculosis Cystic Fibrosis Inflammatory Bowel Disease Sinusitis Deep vein thrombosis and more. It also is considered exceptionally anti aging due to it's anti inflammatory capabilities. As an up and comming Drugless Practitioner (smile) I plan to recommend that people do this product for at least a few months out of the year to keep their artieries clear, as a preventative measure. Heart disease is so much easier to prevent than it is to turn around. Serrapetase is not expensive, is easy to take and does just amazing stuff. It is truly an Excellent Thing. If anyone wants more info they can contact me off list at excellenthings@... The down side of EDTA for me is that it doesn't differentiate between good minerals and bad metals. It is a good thing, but not an excellent thing. In my opinion. Serrapetase cleans out the arteries just as well and does so much more. And if a person wants to eliminate heavy metals then cellular zeolite or fulvic acids will do the trick just as well or better than EDTA. Blessings Donna Re: Ozone and circulation I have done ozone saunas for about 6 years. To coin a phrase, everything I know about ozone saunas, I learned from Saul. Oral EDTA - learned about that at an acupuncture seminar! It helped the speaker's parents and I order it from DeeCee Labs. jp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Hi, I'm back from my trip to Peru and just wanted to say that the oxygen supplements did not help much, if at all, with altitude sickness. They worked great for jet lag which I've always experienced when flying anywhere and I did not have it at all going or coming home. As far as altitude sickness, I did all the right things - no caffiene, no alchohol, no carbonated drinks, no sugar or heavy foods. I took the Vitamin O and DMG and even, finally, an over the counter medication for altitude sickness and nothing helped. It just had to run it's course and go away on it's own. It happened to me three times on all three occassions that I was in high altitude in the defferent regions of the country where I visited and lasted approximately 1 day each time and manifested itself in different ways each time from stomache cramps and nausia to vomiting and diahrea all accompanied by tiredness, difficulty breathing and headaches. I suffered through it though and managed to hike the Inca Trail into Machu Picchu and enjoy my visits to Lake Titicacca and Colca Canyon. Those were the highest places on my trip. So, I really wish I had something better to report as far as the supplements I was taking but they do actually work for some poeple and I was only one of three people that got ill from the altitude out of 11 people on the trip. Some people just aren't bothered by it at all. Go figure! On another note, my brother has been having general achiness in back and chest and a panic attack recently. He went to the doctor for testing and was diagnosed with a condition called an aortal flutter. He is taking Digoxin to regulate the rythym and Warfarin Sodium Tabs to thin his blood. The doctor sounded very optimistic, especially considering that his chest x-ray came out good. There are blood work results pending and a heart 'echo' appointment today. The drugs being prescribed are for a short term, hopefully. If the rythym regulates itself, he can come off the Digoxin. The blood thinner is to prevent blood clotting which is an effect of the flutter. Also, a complication could be that the flutter speeds up and he would need to be shocked. Doesn't sound fun. I was reading the recent posts on serrapeptase and how it is good for blood clots and was wondering if anyone has any insight about aortal flutters and/or these drugs the doctors have my brother on. Also, I believe, and my brother tends to agree that this condition that he is experiencing is psychosomatic and it's his mentallity that is doing him in. He is a huge worrier and has internal stress that he is not even consciously aware of most of the time. He does not do well with change and has has some major changes going on in his life recently. This is how he's dealing with it, he's making himself ill. How do you go about changing the way you think and how your mind works? I suggested he go on a nice long vacation, take up yoga, see a counselor, etc.. I really don't know what to tell him but this is really serious now when it's causing him to have heart problems. Any thoughts? I would really appreciate some input here. GypsyRose From: " boy " <jhprice@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: Re: Ozone and circulation - thanks, Donna Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:08:19 -0500 Sounds wonderful, and I confess my lack of full knowledge of serrapeptase. I will look into it immediately. You come up with some great products, Donna, and I always appreciate your input. Thank you once again. You know, my mother-in-law has early emphysema but is too bull-headed to stop smoking much to my wife's concern. This might help her. jp Hi JP. Personally I prefer serrapeptase to EDTA Not only does it clean out the arteries quickly, it also cleans out scar tissue and fibroid cysts in breasts and uterous. It also eliminates inflammation everywhere in the body, which is why Neenah recommended it for carpel tunnel. It also eliminates or greatly reduces varicose veins and eliminates blood clots. It is phenomenal for lung issues like asbestosis and emphysema and cyctic fibrosis. The benefits are vast and varied and so are the testimonies. Here is must one of my most favorite: " The first dramatic effect that I experienced was with a man in his 60's who had been a heavy smoker for many years. His wife wheeled him from a special van and into my pharmacy. He was very breathless in his voice and was difficult to understand because he had emphysema and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). These are considered to be irreversible damage to the linings of the lungs, usually caused by smoking or toxic enviroments. Whereas asthma may be considered reversible, COPD is an irreversible disease. Normally with this, the only thing we can do is to relieve or help with, say, and oxygen tank or sprays to open the airways, or steroid sprays that help to stop inflammation. This man said he had heard me on the BBC radio program talking about the studies, saying that it had helped to maintain the airways of people with breathing problems by helping to break down the damaged tissue that had built up over their lifetime, whether due to smoking or things like working with chemicals. He told me he was on sprays, on oxygen , and on antibiotics every two weeks, as he was always getting bad infections, and breathlessly told me he wanted to try Serrapeptase. To begin with, he took two 20,000 iu tablets on an empty stomach, four times per day. Later he reduced to four per day of the 40.000 iu capsules and finally, as a maintanance, he reduced to a couple per day. Three weeks later the door opened, and this man, whom I had met only once (sitting in a wheel chair) walked in and said, in a completely clear voice, with no breathlessness, " Do you remember me? I was in three weeks ago with my wife. " I had to apologize that I see so many people, and could he remind me. He then reminded me that he was the person with emphysema/COPD. This 6' tall person, who had been in a wheelchair previously, had marched out of his van, no wife with him, no wheelchair with him, and spoke to me in a clear voice. He told me that in the early days, so much rubbish was coming up that he thought his lungs might be disintegrating, but he soon realized that it was a big clearout underway. He started to feel so much better, and he was no longer on antibiotics, no longer on oxygen cylinders, and he was no longer using his sprays. He was still smoking ( eee gads!) and he had booked a holiday to go to Benidorm, in Spain. He is still a regular visitor to the shop to get supplies. He brings other people along, buttonholes other people in the shop, and praises Serrapeptase, if he hears them ask about it. He is still so thrilled after two years of feeling good. " (shared by Redfern) end quote It also helps with adhesions Nephritis MS Chronic Cough Back pain Knee Pain Joint pain in general Asthama Ankylosing spondylitis Repetitive Strain Injury All scars and lesions Polymyalgia Rheumatica Fibromyalgia Enlarged Prostate Leg Ulcers Diabetic Neuropathy Pulmonary Tuberculosis Cystic Fibrosis Inflammatory Bowel Disease Sinusitis Deep vein thrombosis and more. It also is considered exceptionally anti aging due to it's anti inflammatory capabilities. As an up and comming Drugless Practitioner (smile) I plan to recommend that people do this product for at least a few months out of the year to keep their artieries clear, as a preventative measure. Heart disease is so much easier to prevent than it is to turn around. Serrapetase is not expensive, is easy to take and does just amazing stuff. It is truly an Excellent Thing. If anyone wants more info they can contact me off list at excellenthings@... The down side of EDTA for me is that it doesn't differentiate between good minerals and bad metals. It is a good thing, but not an excellent thing. In my opinion. Serrapetase cleans out the arteries just as well and does so much more. And if a person wants to eliminate heavy metals then cellular zeolite or fulvic acids will do the trick just as well or better than EDTA. Blessings Donna Re: Ozone and circulation I have done ozone saunas for about 6 years. To coin a phrase, everything I know about ozone saunas, I learned from Saul. Oral EDTA - learned about that at an acupuncture seminar! It helped the speaker's parents and I order it from DeeCee Labs. jp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Dear GypsyRose, I'm sorry to hear that you had problems with altitude sickness despite the work that you did to prevent it. I'm wondering - I have heard that people sometimes drink a special " tea " that is offered to tourists when they go to Peru so that tourists can adjust to the altitude. Did anyone offer such a " tea " meant to help you with the altitude? Did you try it? And if you did try it, did it help any at all? ----- On the other note, perhaps your brother might try EFT to help with the changes in his life. www.emofree.com is where to learn about it. Thanks in advance for the answers to my questions and for the info---- Carol >oxyplus >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2006 21:50:03.0245 (UTC) >FILETIME=[E4ED19D0:01C658FA] >From: " gypsy rose " <gypsy___rose@...> >X--Profile: rosemariegeiger >Sender: oxyplus >Mailing-List: list oxyplus ; contact >oxyplus-owner >Delivered-mailing list oxyplus >Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:50:01 -0700 >Subject: Re: Ozone and circulation > >Hi, >I'm back from my trip to Peru and just wanted to say that the oxygen >supplements did not help much, if at all, with altitude sickness. They >worked great for jet lag which I've always experienced when flying anywhere >and I did not have it at all going or coming home. As far as altitude >sickness, I did all the right things - no caffiene, no alchohol, no >carbonated drinks, no sugar or heavy foods. I took the Vitamin O and DMG >and even, finally, an over the counter medication for altitude sickness and >nothing helped. It just had to run it's course and go away on it's own. It >happened to me three times on all three occassions that I was in high >altitude in the defferent regions of the country where I visited and lasted >approximately 1 day each time and manifested itself in different ways each >time from stomache cramps and nausia to vomiting and diahrea all accompanied >by tiredness, difficulty breathing and headaches. I suffered through it >though and managed to hike the Inca Trail into Machu Picchu and enjoy my >visits to Lake Titicacca and Colca Canyon. Those were the highest places on >my trip. So, I really wish I had something better to report as far as the >supplements I was taking but they do actually work for some poeple and I >was only one of three people that got ill from the altitude out of 11 people >on the trip. Some people just aren't bothered by it at all. >Go figure! > >On another note, my brother has been having general achiness in back and >chest and a panic attack recently. He went to the doctor for testing and >was diagnosed with a condition called an aortal flutter. He is taking >Digoxin to regulate the rythym and Warfarin Sodium Tabs to thin his blood. > The doctor sounded very optimistic, especially considering that his chest >x-ray came out good. There are blood work results pending and a heart >'echo' appointment today. The drugs being prescribed are for a short term, >hopefully. If the rythym regulates itself, he can come off the Digoxin. >The blood thinner is to prevent blood clotting which is an effect of the >flutter. Also, a complication could be that the flutter speeds up and he >would need to be shocked. Doesn't sound fun. I was reading the recent >posts on serrapeptase and how it is good for blood clots and was wondering >if anyone has any insight about aortal flutters and/or these drugs the >doctors have my brother on. Also, I believe, and my brother tends to agree >that this condition that he is experiencing is psychosomatic and it's his >mentallity that is doing him in. He is a huge worrier and has internal >stress that he is not even consciously aware of most of the time. He does >not do well with change and has has some major changes going on in his life >recently. This is how he's dealing with it, he's making himself ill. How >do you go about changing the way you think and how your mind works? I >suggested he go on a nice long vacation, take up yoga, see a counselor, >etc.. I really don't know what to tell him but this is really serious now >when it's causing him to have heart problems. Any thoughts? I would really >appreciate some input here. >GypsyRose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Hi, Celluar oxygenation has to do with blood pH more than with any other factor except hemoglobin saturation. The pH detrmines the degree of release of oxygen to the extracellular tissue. It is therefore very important to eat alcaline foods and supplements to push the blood a bit toward the lower end of the 7.35-7.45 range. Regards Re: Ozone and circulation > > > I have done ozone saunas for about 6 years. > To coin a phrase, everything I know about ozone > saunas, I learned from Saul. Oral EDTA - learned > about that at an acupuncture seminar! It helped > the speaker's parents and I order it from DeeCee > Labs. > jp > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Donna I have tied your excellentthings. address and was returned. Could you repeat or give another address? I am a heavy promoter of Serrapeptase and wanted to know more about your experiences. Thx Re: Ozone and circulation > > > I have done ozone saunas for about 6 years. > To coin a phrase, everything I know about ozone > saunas, I learned from Saul. Oral EDTA - learned > about that at an acupuncture seminar! It helped > the speaker's parents and I order it from DeeCee > Labs. > jp > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 I have been using Jon Barron's formula after reading his article. (portion below) Should I switch to serrapeptase or maybe add it to the formula I'm using? Ruth With that in mind, I now want to spend the rest of this newsletter talking about the profound benefits of supplementing with a dedicated proteolytic formula. These benefits include: Reduced inflammation: Inflammation is a natural response of the body to injury. However, excessive inflammation retards the healing process. Proteolytic enzymes reduce inflammation by neutralizing the bio-chemicals of inflammation (bradykinins and pro-inflammatory eicosanoids) to levels where the synthesis, repair and regeneration of injured tissues can take place. Reducing inflammation can have immediate impact on improved heart health, cancer prevention and recovery, and Alzheimer's prevention. It also helps speed up recovery from sprains, strains, fractures, bruises, contusions, surgery -- and arthritis. Cleansing the blood of debris: Proteolytic enzymes are the primary tools the body uses to " digest " organic debris in the circulatory and lymph systems. Supplementing merely improves the effectiveness of the process. Dissolving fibrin in the blood, reducing the risk of clots: Certain specialized proteases such as nattokinase are extremely effective at improving the " quality " of blood cells, optimizing the ability of blood to flow through the circulatory system, and reducing the risk of clots. This is extremely important in reducing the risk of stroke. It also makes using proteolytic enzymes during long plane flights to minimize the potential of blood clots in the legs a no-brainer. Maximized immune system: The primary vehicle the immune system uses for destroying invaders is enzymes. Macrophages, for example, literally digest invaders with proteolytic enzymes. Supplementation significantly improves the ability of your immune system to do its job. Killing of bacteria, viruses, molds, and fungi: Bacteria, viruses, molds, and fungi are protein/amino acid based. Proteolytic enzymes taken between meals literally go into the bloodstream and digest these invaders. Elimination of autoimmune diseases: In Lessons from the Miracle Doctors, I cover in detail the process whereby large undigested proteins make their way into the bloodstream and form CICs (Circulating Immune Complexes), which trigger allergies and autoimmune diseases. Supplemental proteolytic enzymes clean CICs out of the body, thereby reducing allergies and autoimmune conditions. In addition, this helps with sinutis and asthma. Dissolving of scar tissue: Scar tissue is made of protein. Proteolytic enzymes can effectively " digest " scar tissue -- particularly in the circulatory system And finally, a properly designed supplemental proteolytic enzyme formula can help. reduce the symptoms of MS, clean out the lungs, and aid in detoxing. Which brings us to the final question: what constitutes a properly designed supplemental proteolytic enzyme formula? First, it needs a lot of protease. You want at least 200,000 HUT. This is far more than you will ever find in a digestive formula. 300,000 HUT is even better. (Note: fungal (vegetarian based) protease is merely rendered inactive by stomach acid, not destroyed. As soon as it passes into the alkaline environment of the intestinal tract it reactivates -- and if not needed for digesting food, makes its way into the bloodstream. In other words, for use in a proteolytic enzyme formula, it does not need to be protected from stomach acid.) In addition, even though fungal protease does indeed reactivate in the intestinal tract, the formula will be much more effective if it includes a variety of proteases that work optimally in a variety of pH ranges. Some of these proteases would include: papain, bromelain, and fungal pancreatin. A very special proteolytic enzyme called nattokinase has been discovered that has displayed a remarkable ability to optimally balance the clotting ability of blood. Its ability to control clotting rivals that of pharmaceutical drugs such as warfarin, but without any of the side effects or downsides -- making it of value to everyone, not just heart disease patients. Obviously, if you are already using blood thinners, you will need to work with your doctor if you decide to incorporate proteolytic enzymes in your health program. (Unfortunately, most doctors will opt to play it safe (for them, not you) and choose to keep you on the pharmaceuticals.) One of the " hot " proteolytic enzymes in alternative health right now is serrapeptase. It has remarkable anti-inflammatory and anti-edemic (counters swelling and fluid retention) activity in a number of tissues. And in addition to reducing inflammation, serrapeptase has a profound ability to reduce pain, due to its ability to block the release of pain-inducing amines from inflamed tissues. And finally, it helps clear mucous from the lungs by reducing neutrophil numbers and altering the viscoelasticity of sputum in patients with chronic airway diseases. These are all major benefits, however, serrapeptase has several problems Its quality tends to be inconsistent It can cause intestinal distress It is very sensitive to stomach acid, which means it has to be enteric coated. Unfortunately, the technology for enteric coating capsules or powders is not reliable (which is why you normally find enteric coating used only on hard tablets or on hard beads inside capsules (as in cold capsules). So is there an alternative to serrapeptase? Yes, it's called Seaprose-S. It's manufactured in Japan and is of consistent high quality It causes virtually no intestinal distress It is not affected by stomach acid so it does not require enteric coating And studies have shown that it is more effective than serrapeptase -- 85% vs 65%. Click here to see a summary of one such study. So let's bring this to a conclusion Regular use of proteolytic enzymes can be an invaluable addition to your daily health program. For maintenance, take three 500 mg capsules a day at least 1 hour before or after eating. For detoxing, start with 2 capsules three times a day and build to 4 capsules or more until you notice benefits, or as recommended by your health professional. You will want to run a detox program for a minimum of 30 days to as long as 12-24 months -- depending on the state of your health and how much damage you are trying to repair. Note: if it is impossible for you take your proteolytic formula without food, then take it with food. You will still receive a substantial portion of the benefit -- 65-75%, which is better than not taking it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 , What are some alkaline supplements that you would recommend? Ruth -------------- Original message -------------- From: <fcunsrial@...> > Hi, > Cellular oxygenation has to do with blood pH more than with any other factor > except hemoglobin saturation. > The pH determines the degree of release of oxygen to the extracellular > tissue. > It is therefore very important to eat alkaline foods and supplements to push > the blood a bit toward the lower end of the 7.35-7.45 range. > Regards > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Ruth, Excess protein and grains are the main causes of acidity. Most fruits and vegetables are promotores of alcalinity. You can supplement with potassium citrate or if the acidity is strong with (100 mg) of cesium chloride. The sea vegetables and chorophil aslo help. Certain waters are alkaline because they contain these munerals and you need to buy a pH strip kit and test them. You can alkalinize water by adding potassium bicarbonate or carbonate (100 ppm) If you want to spend money, there are machines that split water into acid and alcaline streams. They are called alkalinizers and found in Ebay. Negative thoughts such as envy, hate, etc are produccers of acidity and the same applies to stress. Adrenaline is the most powerful acidifier. Chcke your urine pH first thing in the morning several days in a row and average (10 readings each time) should be 6.5-6.8. You know that you are doing well health wise if you are in this range. If you are vegetarian expect these values a little higher. regards Re: Ozone and circulation > , What are some alkaline supplements that you would recommend? Ruth > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: <fcunsrial@...> > >> Hi, >> Cellular oxygenation has to do with blood pH more than with any other >> factor >> except hemoglobin saturation. >> The pH determines the degree of release of oxygen to the extracellular >> tissue. >> It is therefore very important to eat alkaline foods and supplements to >> push >> the blood a bit toward the lower end of the 7.35-7.45 range. >> Regards >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Hi Carol, Yes, coca tea is offered everywhere as well as coca leaves to chew on. I did drink the tea and ate the leaves and other coca products - coca toffee and candies and coca powder mixed with my water. I think the coca products may have irritated my stomache but it's hard to say. Others who had no problem with altitude complained that the coca products irritated their stomaches and they stopped taking them. I drank mostly chamomile and mint teas after hearing that and stayed away from the coca products and just stuck to the oxygen supplements but nothing helped me! I'm staying away from altitude on future vacations. GypsyRose From: Carol <carol@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Fwd: Re: Ozone and circulation Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:56:48 -0700 Dear GypsyRose, I'm sorry to hear that you had problems with altitude sickness despite the work that you did to prevent it. I'm wondering - I have heard that people sometimes drink a special " tea " that is offered to tourists when they go to Peru so that tourists can adjust to the altitude. Did anyone offer such a " tea " meant to help you with the altitude? Did you try it? And if you did try it, did it help any at all? ----- On the other note, perhaps your brother might try EFT to help with the changes in his life. www.emofree.com is where to learn about it. Thanks in advance for the answers to my questions and for the info---- Carol >oxyplus >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2006 21:50:03.0245 (UTC) >FILETIME=[E4ED19D0:01C658FA] >From: " gypsy rose " <gypsy___rose@...> >X--Profile: rosemariegeiger >Sender: oxyplus >Mailing-List: list oxyplus ; contact >oxyplus-owner >Delivered-mailing list oxyplus >Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:50:01 -0700 >Subject: Re: Ozone and circulation > >Hi, >I'm back from my trip to Peru and just wanted to say that the oxygen >supplements did not help much, if at all, with altitude sickness. They >worked great for jet lag which I've always experienced when flying anywhere >and I did not have it at all going or coming home. As far as altitude >sickness, I did all the right things - no caffiene, no alchohol, no >carbonated drinks, no sugar or heavy foods. I took the Vitamin O and DMG >and even, finally, an over the counter medication for altitude sickness and >nothing helped. It just had to run it's course and go away on it's own. >It >happened to me three times on all three occassions that I was in high >altitude in the defferent regions of the country where I visited and lasted >approximately 1 day each time and manifested itself in different ways each >time from stomache cramps and nausia to vomiting and diahrea all >accompanied >by tiredness, difficulty breathing and headaches. I suffered through it >though and managed to hike the Inca Trail into Machu Picchu and enjoy my >visits to Lake Titicacca and Colca Canyon. Those were the highest places >on >my trip. So, I really wish I had something better to report as far as the >supplements I was taking but they do actually work for some poeple and I >was only one of three people that got ill from the altitude out of 11 >people >on the trip. Some people just aren't bothered by it at all. >Go figure! > >On another note, my brother has been having general achiness in back and >chest and a panic attack recently. He went to the doctor for testing and >was diagnosed with a condition called an aortal flutter. He is taking >Digoxin to regulate the rythym and Warfarin Sodium Tabs to thin his blood. > The doctor sounded very optimistic, especially considering that his >chest >x-ray came out good. There are blood work results pending and a heart >'echo' appointment today. The drugs being prescribed are for a short term, >hopefully. If the rythym regulates itself, he can come off the Digoxin. >The blood thinner is to prevent blood clotting which is an effect of the >flutter. Also, a complication could be that the flutter speeds up and he >would need to be shocked. Doesn't sound fun. I was reading the recent >posts on serrapeptase and how it is good for blood clots and was wondering >if anyone has any insight about aortal flutters and/or these drugs the >doctors have my brother on. Also, I believe, and my brother tends to >agree >that this condition that he is experiencing is psychosomatic and it's his >mentallity that is doing him in. He is a huge worrier and has internal >stress that he is not even consciously aware of most of the time. He does >not do well with change and has has some major changes going on in his life >recently. This is how he's dealing with it, he's making himself ill. How >do you go about changing the way you think and how your mind works? I >suggested he go on a nice long vacation, take up yoga, see a counselor, >etc.. I really don't know what to tell him but this is really serious now >when it's causing him to have heart problems. Any thoughts? I would >really >appreciate some input here. >GypsyRose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Hi Gypsy Rose.You seem to have gone to all the places we went to on our last trip to Peru.Sorry to hear that nothing worked very well to alleviate the altitude sickness.I was also very sick from the altitude,especially in the Colca Valley area. Sorry that I cannot provide much info on your brothers condition. Since his health problems are maybe psychosomatic,I can only suggest meditation.About 30 years ago,I also had problems that were mostly related to stress.I would suggest that we are all different and we need to work out/dissolve our karma so to speak,a little bit at a time.I found meditation to work very well for this situation. Be well and all the best to you. Regards Guy - In oxyplus , " gypsy rose " <gypsy___rose@...> wrote: > > Hi, > I'm back from my trip to Peru and just wanted to say that the oxygen > supplements did not help much, if at all, with altitude sickness. They > worked great for jet lag which I've always experienced when flying anywhere > and I did not have it at all going or coming home. As far as altitude > sickness, I did all the right things - no caffiene, no alchohol, no > carbonated drinks, no sugar or heavy foods. I took the Vitamin O and DMG > and even, finally, an over the counter medication for altitude sickness and > nothing helped. It just had to run it's course and go away on it's own. It > happened to me three times on all three occassions that I was in high > altitude in the defferent regions of the country where I visited and lasted > approximately 1 day each time and manifested itself in different ways each > time from stomache cramps and nausia to vomiting and diahrea all accompanied > by tiredness, difficulty breathing and headaches. I suffered through it > though and managed to hike the Inca Trail into Machu Picchu and enjoy my > visits to Lake Titicacca and Colca Canyon. Those were the highest places on > my trip. So, I really wish I had something better to report as far as the > supplements I was taking but they do actually work for some poeple and I > was only one of three people that got ill from the altitude out of 11 people > on the trip. Some people just aren't bothered by it at all. > Go figure! > > On another note, my brother has been having general achiness in back and > chest and a panic attack recently. He went to the doctor for testing and > was diagnosed with a condition called an aortal flutter. He is taking > Digoxin to regulate the rythym and Warfarin Sodium Tabs to thin his blood. > The doctor sounded very optimistic, especially considering that his chest > x-ray came out good. There are blood work results pending and a heart > 'echo' appointment today. The drugs being prescribed are for a short term, > hopefully. If the rythym regulates itself, he can come off the Digoxin. > The blood thinner is to prevent blood clotting which is an effect of the > flutter. Also, a complication could be that the flutter speeds up and he > would need to be shocked. Doesn't sound fun. I was reading the recent > posts on serrapeptase and how it is good for blood clots and was wondering > if anyone has any insight about aortal flutters and/or these drugs the > doctors have my brother on. Also, I believe, and my brother tends to agree > that this condition that he is experiencing is psychosomatic and it's his > mentallity that is doing him in. He is a huge worrier and has internal > stress that he is not even consciously aware of most of the time. He does > not do well with change and has has some major changes going on in his life > recently. This is how he's dealing with it, he's making himself ill. How > do you go about changing the way you think and how your mind works? I > suggested he go on a nice long vacation, take up yoga, see a counselor, > etc.. I really don't know what to tell him but this is really serious now > when it's causing him to have heart problems. Any thoughts? I would really > appreciate some input here. > GypsyRose > > > From: " boy " <jhprice@...> > Reply-oxyplus > <oxyplus > > Subject: Re: Ozone and circulation - thanks, Donna > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:08:19 -0500 > > Sounds wonderful, and I confess my lack of full knowledge of serrapeptase. > I will look into it immediately. You come up with some great products, > Donna, and I > always appreciate your input. Thank you once again. > You know, my mother-in-law has early emphysema but is too bull-headed to > stop > smoking much to my wife's concern. This might help her. > jp > > Hi JP. > > Personally I prefer serrapeptase to EDTA > > Not only does it clean out the arteries quickly, it also cleans out scar > tissue and fibroid cysts in breasts and uterous. It also eliminates > inflammation everywhere in the body, which is why Neenah recommended it for > carpel tunnel. It also eliminates or greatly reduces varicose veins and > eliminates blood clots. It is phenomenal for lung issues like asbestosis > and emphysema and cyctic fibrosis. > > The benefits are vast and varied and so are the testimonies. Here is must > one of my most favorite: > > " The first dramatic effect that I experienced was with a man in his 60's > who had been a heavy smoker for many years. His wife wheeled him from a > special van and into my pharmacy. He was very breathless in his voice and > was difficult to understand because he had emphysema and chronic obstructive > pulmonary disease (COPD). These are considered to be irreversible damage to > the linings of the lungs, usually caused by smoking or toxic enviroments. > Whereas asthma may be considered reversible, COPD is an irreversible > disease. Normally with this, the only thing we can do is to relieve or help > with, say, and oxygen tank or sprays to open the airways, or steroid sprays > that help to stop inflammation. This man said he had heard me on the BBC > radio program talking about the studies, saying that it had helped to > maintain the airways of people with breathing problems by helping to break > down the damaged tissue that had built up over their lifetime, whether due > to smoking or things like working with chemicals. He told me he was on > sprays, on oxygen , and on antibiotics every two weeks, as he was always > getting bad infections, and breathlessly told me he wanted to try > Serrapeptase. To begin with, he took two 20,000 iu tablets on an empty > stomach, four times per day. Later he reduced to four per day of the 40.000 > iu capsules and finally, as a maintanance, he reduced to a couple per day. > > Three weeks later the door opened, and this man, whom I had met only once > (sitting in a wheel chair) walked in and said, in a completely clear voice, > with no breathlessness, " Do you remember me? I was in three weeks ago with > my wife. " I had to apologize that I see so many people, and could he remind > me. He then reminded me that he was the person with emphysema/COPD. This > 6' tall person, who had been in a wheelchair previously, had marched out of > his van, no wife with him, no wheelchair with him, and spoke to me in a > clear voice. He told me that in the early days, so much rubbish was coming > up that he thought his lungs might be disintegrating, but he soon realized > that it was a big clearout underway. He started to feel so much better, and > he was no longer on antibiotics, no longer on oxygen cylinders, and he was > no longer using his sprays. He was still smoking ( eee gads!) and he had > booked a holiday to go to Benidorm, in Spain. He is still a regular visitor > to the shop to get supplies. He brings other people along, buttonholes > other people in the shop, and praises Serrapeptase, if he hears them ask > about it. He is still so thrilled after two years of feeling good. " (shared > by Redfern) > > end quote > > It also helps with adhesions > Nephritis > MS > Chronic Cough > Back pain > Knee Pain > Joint pain in general > Asthama > Ankylosing spondylitis > Repetitive Strain Injury > All scars and lesions > Polymyalgia Rheumatica > Fibromyalgia > Enlarged Prostate > Leg Ulcers > Diabetic Neuropathy > Pulmonary Tuberculosis > Cystic Fibrosis > Inflammatory Bowel Disease > Sinusitis > Deep vein thrombosis > and more. > > It also is considered exceptionally anti aging due to it's anti > inflammatory capabilities. > > As an up and comming Drugless Practitioner (smile) I plan to recommend > that people do this product for at least a few months out of the year to > keep their artieries clear, as a preventative measure. Heart disease is so > much easier to prevent than it is to turn around. > > Serrapetase is not expensive, is easy to take and does just amazing stuff. > It is truly an Excellent Thing. > > If anyone wants more info they can contact me off list at > excellenthings@... > > The down side of EDTA for me is that it doesn't differentiate between good > minerals and bad metals. It is a good thing, but not an excellent thing. > In my opinion. Serrapetase cleans out the arteries just as well and does so > much more. And if a person wants to eliminate heavy metals then cellular > zeolite or fulvic acids will do the trick just as well or better than EDTA. > > Blessings > Donna > Re: Ozone and circulation > > > I have done ozone saunas for about 6 years. > To coin a phrase, everything I know about ozone > saunas, I learned from Saul. Oral EDTA - learned > about that at an acupuncture seminar! It helped > the speaker's parents and I order it from DeeCee > Labs. > jp > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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