Re: Help for sleeping problems...

[Guest guest]

Below is a part of an article--be sure you use the links to read the full

article as it also points out the thyroid as being part of the sleeping

problem, and why. Hope this helps--it's cheap enough to try out.

Hope this helps

I've included a couple of links to the Bro Jon web site and

Pages that cover the whole story of WHY you need tryptophan and a few other

Things that have to do with good sleep, because the articles are far too

Long to copy.

The first one is http://WWW.brojon.org/DigestArchives/060526.HTML

And here's a pertinent part to the whole article:

(he's talking here about using the L-tryptophan for waking up in the morning

But when you read the whole articles, you will see that you take it in the

Morning to wake up and BE awake, and at night to get a good nights sleep)

Have already mentioned two protocols, using bright lights in the morning

Just as you wake up for about ½ hour, or take a 500mg capsule of

L-tryptophan just as you wake up and about ½ hour before you ingest anything

Else such as coffee or breakfast. I have tested both of these methods for 20

Years and they are both effective, and you can even use both together. There

Is no overdosing of good health.

It used to be that you could not buy L-tryptophan at any price, even if you

Tried through " underground " sources since the CDC, FDA ban dating from

November 1989. For many years it was only marketed for use by farm animals,

But since it was USP certified for purity and dosage is was actually safer

Than the old L-tryptophan sold in drug and health stores prior to 1989. It

Seems the USDA and the farm industry was more concerned about the health and

Safety of farm animals, than was the FDA and CDC for the health of human

Beings. It seems the FDA and CDC wanted to market the potentially harmful

And very expensive Prozac and SSRI's so that Big Pharma can make about $30

Billion a year, instead of using the cheap and safer natural L-tryptophan.

A computer search on the Internet will now show hundreds of sources for

L-tryptophan. Make sure the product says " USP. " " Pure, " and " 500mg. " You do

Not want any added minerals, vitamins or amino acids. NO added anything. Use

It only first thing in the morning when you wake up, or last thing at night

Before you go to bed. In the morning it makes serotonin, and at night it

Makes melatonin - during the transition into and from sleep. That is your

Circadian rhythm clock. You can kick it up in the morning or down at night.

It really works the same way. Its the same as pushing a child on a swing. It

Makes no difference whether you push from the front or back, but you have to

Push in the right direction and at the right time. Do both if you want,

Since you can't overdose with the L-tryptophan. I have found that after

Several days of use, a maintenance daily dose can be as low as 50 to 100 mg.

I have tried cutting the 500mg gel capsules in half, and sometimes filling

My own 100 mg capsules. I have even found it works to take a large capsule

Every other day. But that complicates matters, since you have to remember

What day it is when you first wake up. Hmm let's see, yesterday was Tuesday

In France so today must be Wednesday in Germany -- or is it Thursday in

Italy. I'll have to wake up and read the newspaper to figure that one out. I

Keep it simple. One capsule, of any size, every morning, and then get on

With my life.

Second article to read is

http://WWW.brojon.org/frontpage/bomber/bomber1HTML

Here's a brief bit from it:

Several months ago I wrote a series of articles about Winter People and

the

Three Circadian Clocks in the human body. I mentioned that one of the

Primary chemicals which operates the circadian clocks was made in the brain

From tryptophan in the diet. Tryptophan in the bloodstream is converted into

The neurochemicals serotonin in the morning when you wake up, and then is

Converted into melatonin in the evening to make you sleep. Thus the very

Same dietary chemical, tryptophan, is used by the body to raise and lower

The brain temperature to create the sleep/wake cycle.

I also mentioned that surplus " vitamin B6 " in the diet completely disrupts

The circadian rhythms. Many readers wrote to ask how could so many people

Have surplus B6 in their diet. What I will show you here is that most people

Unknowingly actually get about 10 times the RDA for B6 even if they don't

Take any vitamins or diet supplements. And if they do take daily vitamins

With B6 they are almost toxic and morbid because of the surplus. This is a

Tremendous health disaster caused by false food advertisements and

Profiteering. In fact, B6 is not a vitamin and it should never be used in

The diet. There is no RDA for B6 - that false number was incorrectly based

on the RDA for Niacin and not B6.

[Guest guest]

Any chance you are hypoglycemic?

--- Ellis <lellis4563@...> wrote:

> I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping

> problems, now that I understand that not getting

> enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known

> and unknown health problems.

[Guest guest]

If you can get access to the book " Chinese Patent Medicines " (a big

orange book found at many herb and hfs) there are two for menopause.

There is one in the middle of the book and one near the back. My

naturopath gave me the one near the back and my sweats, etc., were gone

in a month or two. If you try it, let us know. If you don't have

someone to do a test on which is better, look at the symptoms and try to

choose which would be better for you.

Ellis wrote:

>

> I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping problems, now that I

> understand that not getting

> enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known and unknown

> health problems. I am aware that

> my sleeping patterns can be contributing to my blood pressure rising

> and my problems getting

> weight off. So, I'm focusing really hard on trying to improve my

> sleeping patterns.

>

> I think I get about four good hours of sleep a night. I stay in bed

> for longer, but my mind is

> going a mile a minute, and I'm solving all the problems of the world.

> I believe I need more sleep

> if I am to have any hope to successfully and consistently get my blood

> pressure down and get

> weight off.

>

> I am working with a Naturopath, who at first had me on Fire Sedate,

> which helped with the night

> sweats that come with being post-menopausal. Then, she switched me to

> a product called " Calm. "

> If I miss a dose of this stuff, the night sweats are back. But neither

> of these has helped much

> with giving me a longer sleep time. I think it may be improving the

> quality of the little sleep I

> get, but I'm still up and wide awake at 2 a.m. most days.

>

> I also have another sleep problem to deal with - if I wake up at 2

> a.m., I think I'm being kept up

> by my husband's snoring. I don't want to kick him out of bed, or sleep

> on the couch myself! I

> don't know what to do about this!

>

> Help!

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

To rely entirely in supplements is always wrong.

There are foods that may raise your blood pressure such as aged cheese, peanuts,

wine, chocolate, etc that will prevent you from falling sleep. There other foods

to which you may be particularly allergic.

Learn about the COCA pulse test to learn which foods bother you.

Insufficient calcium and magnesium will trigger insomnia as well. Mkae sure you

have enough before you go to bed. 500/400 mg respectively should help.

If you are over 40 or had problems with sleep since infancy, have youyr

melatonin levels tested. If low supplemnt. Always take 5 mg of B6 with

melatonin.

Take a tiem relaese B50 in the am and if under lots of stress take in addition

1500 mg of Pantothenic acid

1000 mg of Vit C

50 mg pf B6 just before retiring for the day. These willnourish and strengthen

your adrnal glands.

Excess seratomin or dopamine will trigger insomnia. If you feel brain burn-out

(excesive preocupation, arousal, over-vigilant or over-alert), take smallest

amounts of 5-HTP and increase gradually to balance neurotrasmitters.

If digestive overactivity eat lighter at night and take a chamomile tea before

bedtime.

If suspect hipoglycemia (test) take a samll amount of fresh cheese or an egg

before going to d=bed and avoid refined carbohidrates and excesive grains and

sugars.

Notice that I am stating IF you have this ir that, then do this or that. Do not

take supplements unless the body needs them.

Check your thyroid function. If low or high will prevent you from falling sleep.

Tha same if you lack progesterone or estrogen.

If you must take something to relax take Rescue Remedy. Is the kindest

homeopathic extract around but it is a remedy, not a solution.

Good luck

Help for sleeping problems...

I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping problems, now that I understand

that not getting

enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known and unknown health

problems. I am aware that

my sleeping patterns can be contributing to my blood pressure rising and my

problems getting

weight off. So, I'm focusing really hard on trying to improve my sleeping

patterns.

I think I get about four good hours of sleep a night. I stay in bed for

longer, but my mind is

going a mile a minute, and I'm solving all the problems of the world. I

believe I need more sleep

if I am to have any hope to successfully and consistently get my blood

pressure down and get

weight off.

I am working with a Naturopath, who at first had me on Fire Sedate, which

helped with the night

sweats that come with being post-menopausal. Then, she switched me to a

product called " Calm. "

If I miss a dose of this stuff, the night sweats are back. But neither of

these has helped much

with giving me a longer sleep time. I think it may be improving the quality of

the little sleep I

get, but I'm still up and wide awake at 2 a.m. most days.

I also have another sleep problem to deal with - if I wake up at 2 a.m., I

think I'm being kept up

by my husband's snoring. I don't want to kick him out of bed, or sleep on the

couch myself! I

don't know what to do about this!

Help!

[Guest guest]

I will double-check, but I believe the last test that I had indicated I was not,

but was " at

risk. " That test was done a month ago, and I have been having trouble sleeping

a full night for

years.

--- Debbie Mcdonald <belynor@...> wrote:

> Any chance you are hypoglycemic?

>

> --- Ellis <lellis4563@...> wrote:

>

> > I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping

> > problems, now that I understand that not getting

> > enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known

> > and unknown health problems.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. A lot of the things you suggest are things I'm doing with

the ND - the

calcium, magnesium, and potassium. Pantothetic acid. Different kinds of Bs.

I don't have any trouble at all falling asleep at night - my head hits the

pillow and I'm usually

outwithin seconds. This is a change from my earlier years, when I would take

off my glasses and

read for a while to tire my eyes out.

It's that wake-up at 2 a.m. that is causing me the problem. I wake up totally,

and could really

start my day then. My husband leaves for the jobs at 5 a.m., and I do find that

I can sometimes

go back to bed and sleep another two or three hours (no snoring to contend

with?). Thankfully, I

work from home, and have the flexibility to do this, but I'm sure this " split "

sleeping can't be

as good for me as if I could get a full 7 or 8 hours at night.

I would just like not to have that 2 a.m. wakeup, and sleep the whole night

through.

BTW, I generally don't feel tired during the day, no matter how little sleep I

get - no need for

an afternoon nap, for example.

--- fcunsrial@... wrote:

> Hi,

> To rely entirely in supplements is always wrong.

> There are foods that may raise your blood pressure such as aged cheese,

peanuts, wine,

> chocolate, etc that will prevent you from falling sleep. There other foods to

which you may be

> particularly allergic.

> Learn about the COCA pulse test to learn which foods bother you.

> Insufficient calcium and magnesium will trigger insomnia as well. Mkae sure

you have enough

> before you go to bed. 500/400 mg respectively should help.

> If you are over 40 or had problems with sleep since infancy, have youyr

melatonin levels tested.

> If low supplemnt. Always take 5 mg of B6 with melatonin.

> Take a tiem relaese B50 in the am and if under lots of stress take in addition

> 1500 mg of Pantothenic acid

> 1000 mg of Vit C

> 50 mg pf B6 just before retiring for the day. These willnourish and strengthen

your adrnal

> glands.

> Excess seratomin or dopamine will trigger insomnia. If you feel brain burn-out

(excesive

> preocupation, arousal, over-vigilant or over-alert), take smallest amounts of

5-HTP and increase

> gradually to balance neurotrasmitters.

> If digestive overactivity eat lighter at night and take a chamomile tea before

bedtime.

> If suspect hipoglycemia (test) take a samll amount of fresh cheese or an egg

before going to

> d=bed and avoid refined carbohidrates and excesive grains and sugars.

> Notice that I am stating IF you have this ir that, then do this or that. Do

not take supplements

> unless the body needs them.

> Check your thyroid function. If low or high will prevent you from falling

sleep. Tha same if you

> lack progesterone or estrogen.

> If you must take something to relax take Rescue Remedy. Is the kindest

homeopathic extract

> around but it is a remedy, not a solution.

>

> Good luck

>

> Help for sleeping problems...

>

>

> I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping problems, now that I

understand that not

> getting

> enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known and unknown health

problems. I am aware

> that

> my sleeping patterns can be contributing to my blood pressure rising and my

problems getting

> weight off. So, I'm focusing really hard on trying to improve my sleeping

patterns.

>

> I think I get about four good hours of sleep a night. I stay in bed for

longer, but my mind is

> going a mile a minute, and I'm solving all the problems of the world. I

believe I need more

> sleep

> if I am to have any hope to successfully and consistently get my blood

pressure down and get

> weight off.

>

> I am working with a Naturopath, who at first had me on Fire Sedate, which

helped with the

> night

> sweats that come with being post-menopausal. Then, she switched me to a

product called " Calm. "

>

> If I miss a dose of this stuff, the night sweats are back. But neither of

these has helped

> much

> with giving me a longer sleep time. I think it may be improving the quality

of the little

> sleep I

> get, but I'm still up and wide awake at 2 a.m. most days.

>

> I also have another sleep problem to deal with - if I wake up at 2 a.m., I

think I'm being

> kept up

> by my husband's snoring. I don't want to kick him out of bed, or sleep on

the couch myself! I

> don't know what to do about this!

>

> Help!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Blood tests are not an accurate indicator of low blood sugar problems.

Even the glucose tolerance tests are only 50% accurate at best. It

only measures the glucose levels, and there are several other sugars

also in the system that don't get measured. Low blood sugar is caused

by the pancreas manufacturing too much insulin. It can actually be

normal for 24 hours and 55 minutes of the day, then suddenly dip down

for 5 minutes...and be causing a lot of problems.

Joyce

> >

> > > I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping

> > > problems, now that I understand that not getting

> > > enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known

> > > and unknown health problems.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ms. , in reading your post, it occurs to me that a small snack at night

may help you with longer sleep; like a relatively full stomach. It may

help. I, too, easily drift off to sleep quickly after crawling in, almost

never am awake within 3 to 5 minutes. I've found that I sleep very soundly

if I have a small snack just before I retire; just an idea. Obie.

Re: Help for sleeping problems...

Thanks for the info. A lot of the things you suggest are things I'm doing

with the ND - the

calcium, magnesium, and potassium. Pantothetic acid. Different kinds of

Bs.

I don't have any trouble at all falling asleep at night - my head hits the

pillow and I'm usually

outwithin seconds. This is a change from my earlier years, when I would

take off my glasses and

read for a while to tire my eyes out.

It's that wake-up at 2 a.m. that is causing me the problem. I wake up

totally, and could really

start my day then. My husband leaves for the jobs at 5 a.m., and I do find

that I can sometimes

go back to bed and sleep another two or three hours (no snoring to contend

with?). Thankfully, I

work from home, and have the flexibility to do this, but I'm sure this

" split " sleeping can't be

as good for me as if I could get a full 7 or 8 hours at night.

I would just like not to have that 2 a.m. wakeup, and sleep the whole night

through.

BTW, I generally don't feel tired during the day, no matter how little sleep

I get - no need for

an afternoon nap, for example.

--- fcunsrial@... wrote:

> Hi,

> To rely entirely in supplements is always wrong.

> There are foods that may raise your blood pressure such as aged cheese,

peanuts, wine,

> chocolate, etc that will prevent you from falling sleep. There other foods

to which you may be

> particularly allergic.

> Learn about the COCA pulse test to learn which foods bother you.

> Insufficient calcium and magnesium will trigger insomnia as well. Mkae

sure you have enough

> before you go to bed. 500/400 mg respectively should help.

> If you are over 40 or had problems with sleep since infancy, have youyr

melatonin levels tested.

> If low supplemnt. Always take 5 mg of B6 with melatonin.

> Take a tiem relaese B50 in the am and if under lots of stress take in

addition

> 1500 mg of Pantothenic acid

> 1000 mg of Vit C

> 50 mg pf B6 just before retiring for the day. These willnourish and

strengthen your adrnal

> glands.

> Excess seratomin or dopamine will trigger insomnia. If you feel brain

burn-out (excesive

> preocupation, arousal, over-vigilant or over-alert), take smallest amounts

of 5-HTP and increase

> gradually to balance neurotrasmitters.

> If digestive overactivity eat lighter at night and take a chamomile tea

before bedtime.

> If suspect hipoglycemia (test) take a samll amount of fresh cheese or an

egg before going to

> d=bed and avoid refined carbohidrates and excesive grains and sugars.

> Notice that I am stating IF you have this ir that, then do this or that.

Do not take supplements

> unless the body needs them.

> Check your thyroid function. If low or high will prevent you from falling

sleep. Tha same if you

> lack progesterone or estrogen.

> If you must take something to relax take Rescue Remedy. Is the kindest

homeopathic extract

> around but it is a remedy, not a solution.

>

> Good luck

>

> Help for sleeping problems...

>

>

> I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping problems, now that I

understand that not

> getting

> enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known and unknown health

problems. I am aware

> that

> my sleeping patterns can be contributing to my blood pressure rising and

my problems getting

> weight off. So, I'm focusing really hard on trying to improve my

sleeping patterns.

>

> I think I get about four good hours of sleep a night. I stay in bed for

longer, but my mind is

> going a mile a minute, and I'm solving all the problems of the world. I

believe I need more

> sleep

> if I am to have any hope to successfully and consistently get my blood

pressure down and get

> weight off.

>

> I am working with a Naturopath, who at first had me on Fire Sedate,

which helped with the

> night

> sweats that come with being post-menopausal. Then, she switched me to a

product called " Calm. "

>

> If I miss a dose of this stuff, the night sweats are back. But neither

of these has helped

> much

> with giving me a longer sleep time. I think it may be improving the

quality of the little

> sleep I

> get, but I'm still up and wide awake at 2 a.m. most days.

>

> I also have another sleep problem to deal with - if I wake up at 2 a.m.,

I think I'm being

> kept up

> by my husband's snoring. I don't want to kick him out of bed, or sleep

on the couch myself! I

> don't know what to do about this!

>

> Help!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Obie and Ms , and all you restless sleepers out there.... Please do

yourselves a " BIG " favor and go to Craigs EFT site and Download his " FREE "

EFT basic manual , http://www.emofree.com/email.htmWT.mc_id=N_Oct20_Subscription

,

and use it each night to " Fall " asleep, and sleep whatever amount of hours you

wish and awaken at the time you choose in great health and rested..

I use it every night and rest better than I have ever slept, in this ole

mans , lifetime , using it for , three years now.....I used to lay awake , half

the night and now I always fall asleep within ten minutes and sleep " ALL " night

long, after tapping on the accupuncture points.. Takes about 3 minutes..

This is not a scam , nor unproven research , so if you want help , then take

the time to read the manual and apply the data with an open mind , and become

the soundest sleeper you have ever known.... Be Well and prosper.. Allan D.

Help for sleeping problems...

>

>

> I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping problems, now that I

understand that not

> getting

> enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known and unknown health

problems. I am aware

> that

> my sleeping patterns can be contributing to my blood pressure rising and

my problems getting

> weight off. So, I'm focusing really hard on trying to improve my

sleeping patterns.

>

> I think I get about four good hours of sleep a night. I stay in bed for

longer, but my mind is

> going a mile a minute, and I'm solving all the problems of the world. I

believe I need more

> sleep

> if I am to have any hope to successfully and consistently get my blood

pressure down and get

> weight off.

>

> I am working with a Naturopath, who at first had me on Fire Sedate,

which helped with the

> night

> sweats that come with being post-menopausal. Then, she switched me to a

product called " Calm. "

>

> If I miss a dose of this stuff, the night sweats are back. But neither

of these has helped

> much

> with giving me a longer sleep time. I think it may be improving the

quality of the little

> sleep I

> get, but I'm still up and wide awake at 2 a.m. most days.

>

> I also have another sleep problem to deal with - if I wake up at 2 a.m.,

I think I'm being

> kept up

> by my husband's snoring. I don't want to kick him out of bed, or sleep

on the couch myself! I

> don't know what to do about this!

>

> Help!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you awaken at the same time each night, it

corresponds to an organ, or can. If you are

hypoglycemic the adrenal might be waking you. That

would be helped with the protein snack idea. You can

use carbs but will just delay the same destructive

reaction.

Do a search or I will as I don't remmeber what I did

with the list of organ/times. Deb

[Guest guest]

,

Do you take aspirin before bed?

Aspirin has the ability to reduce the need for hours of sleep in some people.

Many people sleep five-six hours and function very well. Usually they take a nap

if they can. Isn't that split sleep?

The important thing is to feel refreshed and rested and full of energy after a

profound sleep. I am not sure that your assertion that the " split sleep " is not

as good a continuous one is correct. Lots of people would do that if they could

afford it. Sleeping eight hours in one strech without waking up is not that

common in mature people. Still, if you function well and feel full of energy

(physical and cognitive) during the day, you are OK.

Go with your body's needs if you can afford it and you should be fine.

Excessive preocupation about it may be a problem.

\PS Taking potassium before bedtime IS a problem. The B's should be taken in the

am except a small amount of B6.

ND

Help for sleeping problems...

>

>

> I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping problems, now that I

understand that not

> getting

> enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known and unknown health

problems. I am aware

> that

> my sleeping patterns can be contributing to my blood pressure rising and my

problems getting

> weight off. So, I'm focusing really hard on trying to improve my sleeping

patterns.

>

> I think I get about four good hours of sleep a night. I stay in bed for

longer, but my mind is

> going a mile a minute, and I'm solving all the problems of the world. I

believe I need more

> sleep

> if I am to have any hope to successfully and consistently get my blood

pressure down and get

> weight off.

>

> I am working with a Naturopath, who at first had me on Fire Sedate, which

helped with the

> night

> sweats that come with being post-menopausal. Then, she switched me to a

product called " Calm. "

>

> If I miss a dose of this stuff, the night sweats are back. But neither of

these has helped

> much

> with giving me a longer sleep time. I think it may be improving the quality

of the little

> sleep I

> get, but I'm still up and wide awake at 2 a.m. most days.

>

> I also have another sleep problem to deal with - if I wake up at 2 a.m., I

think I'm being

> kept up

> by my husband's snoring. I don't want to kick him out of bed, or sleep on

the couch myself! I

> don't know what to do about this!

>

> Help!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Allan - I actually have the EFT manual, and attended a seminar where

Craig himself taught

the concept. I hadn't thought about using it for sleep, though.

May I trouble you to give me the " mantra " that you recite to be able to sleep

the number of hours

you choose?

--- Allan D <alland@...> wrote:

> Obie and Ms , and all you restless sleepers out there.... Please do

yourselves a " BIG "

> favor and go to Craigs EFT site and Download his " FREE " EFT basic manual

,

> http://www.emofree.com/email.htmWT.mc_id=N_Oct20_Subscription ,

> and use it each night to " Fall " asleep, and sleep whatever amount of hours

you wish and awaken

> at the time you choose in great health and rested..

> I use it every night and rest better than I have ever slept, in this ole

mans , lifetime

> , using it for , three years now.....I used to lay awake , half the night and

now I always fall

> asleep within ten minutes and sleep " ALL " night long, after tapping on the

accupuncture points..

> Takes about 3 minutes..

> This is not a scam , nor unproven research , so if you want help , then

take the time to

> read the manual and apply the data with an open mind , and become the soundest

sleeper you have

> ever known.... Be Well and prosper.. Allan D.

>

>

> Help for sleeping problems...

> >

> >

> > I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping problems, now that I

> understand that not

> > getting

> > enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known and unknown health

> problems. I am aware

> > that

> > my sleeping patterns can be contributing to my blood pressure rising and

> my problems getting

> > weight off. So, I'm focusing really hard on trying to improve my

> sleeping patterns.

> >

> > I think I get about four good hours of sleep a night. I stay in bed for

> longer, but my mind is

> > going a mile a minute, and I'm solving all the problems of the world. I

> believe I need more

> > sleep

> > if I am to have any hope to successfully and consistently get my blood

> pressure down and get

> > weight off.

> >

> > I am working with a Naturopath, who at first had me on Fire Sedate,

> which helped with the

> > night

> > sweats that come with being post-menopausal. Then, she switched me to a

> product called " Calm. "

> >

> > If I miss a dose of this stuff, the night sweats are back. But neither

> of these has helped

> > much

> > with giving me a longer sleep time. I think it may be improving the

> quality of the little

> > sleep I

> > get, but I'm still up and wide awake at 2 a.m. most days.

> >

> > I also have another sleep problem to deal with - if I wake up at 2 a.m.,

> I think I'm being

> > kept up

> > by my husband's snoring. I don't want to kick him out of bed, or sleep

> on the couch myself! I

> > don't know what to do about this!

> >

> > Help!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Well, one of the things that the ND and I are trying to work on is Adrenal

Stress. So, maybe this

theory helps. I will try the protein snack idea and see what happens....

--- Debbie Mcdonald <belynor@...> wrote:

> If you awaken at the same time each night, it

> corresponds to an organ, or can. If you are

> hypoglycemic the adrenal might be waking you. That

> would be helped with the protein snack idea. You can

> use carbs but will just delay the same destructive

> reaction.

> Do a search or I will as I don't remmeber what I did

> with the list of organ/times. Deb

>

[Guest guest]

Well, in that case, try raw adrenals. I was going to mention the

possibility of adrenal fatigue but you didn't really fit all the

symptoms. They will make you sleep for sure. Wouldn't hurt. Gail

-- In oxyplus , Ellis <lellis4563@...> wrote:

>

> Well, one of the things that the ND and I are trying to work on is

Adrenal Stress. So, maybe this

> theory helps. I will try the protein snack idea and see what

happens....

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Deb,

The most important times are 3 am for the liver and

5 am for the kidneys.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

Re: Help for sleeping problems...

> If you awaken at the same time each night, it

> corresponds to an organ, or can. If you are

> hypoglycemic the adrenal might be waking you. That

> would be helped with the protein snack idea. You can

> use carbs but will just delay the same destructive

> reaction.

> Do a search or I will as I don't remmeber what I did

> with the list of organ/times. Deb

>

[Guest guest]

I have heard that the microwave towers ( " cell phone " ) are calibrated

at around 2am, and that many people find themselves waking up at that

time.

Hillary

It's that wake-up at 2 a.m. that is causing me the problem. I wake up

totally, and could really

start my day then

[Guest guest]

Thanks Doc. I did remember the 3:00 AM one as I am

prone to this one:).

--- Saul Pressman <saul@...> wrote:

> Dear Deb,

>

> The most important times are 3 am for the liver and

> 5 am for the kidneys.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman

>

> Re: Help for sleeping problems...

>

>

> > If you awaken at the same time each night, it

> > corresponds to an organ, or can.

[Guest guest]

A word of caution when trying adrenal supplements. There is a physiological

difference between fatigued and exhausted adrenals. If you are exhausted you

should not take adrenal stimulants or even some adaptogenics becuase it will

make it worse. Talk to your naturopath about testing your urine for free

chlorides to determine where you are.

Regards

ND

Re: Help for sleeping problems...

Well, in that case, try raw adrenals. I was going to mention the

possibility of adrenal fatigue but you didn't really fit all the

symptoms. They will make you sleep for sure. Wouldn't hurt. Gail

-- In oxyplus , Ellis <lellis4563@...> wrote:

>

> Well, one of the things that the ND and I are trying to work on is

Adrenal Stress. So, maybe this

> theory helps. I will try the protein snack idea and see what

happens....

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . I'm seeing the ND tomorrow, and will bring this up. I do have a

urine test every

visit, but I'm not yet as knowledgeable as I want to be about what all it

covers. I will be sure

to ask this question.

--- fcunsrial@... wrote:

>

> A word of caution when trying adrenal supplements. There is a physiological

difference between

> fatigued and exhausted adrenals. If you are exhausted you should not take

adrenal stimulants or

> even some adaptogenics becuase it will make it worse. Talk to your naturopath

about testing your

> urine for free chlorides to determine where you are.

> Regards

> ND

> Re: Help for sleeping problems...

>

>

> Well, in that case, try raw adrenals. I was going to mention the

> possibility of adrenal fatigue but you didn't really fit all the

> symptoms. They will make you sleep for sure. Wouldn't hurt. Gail

>

> -- In oxyplus , Ellis <lellis4563@...> wrote:

> >

> > Well, one of the things that the ND and I are trying to work on is

> Adrenal Stress. So, maybe this

> > theory helps. I will try the protein snack idea and see what

> happens....

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

.. We are each separate spirits,souls , whatever we choose to call

ourselves , and special, and will perhaps word the " Mantra, (Your

understanding), to suit your individual needs " ..

Here is " my " wording.. I state this depending on how I feel on any

given night , while tapping on the soft side of the left side or right side of a

given hand , I say , >>>> " Even though it is (whatever hour) , I choose to

close my eyes and go soundly to sleep , as I relax my mind , my thoughts and my

body , and to sleep all night long , without awakening , and awaken at (whatever

time I choose), feeling refreshed, and I deeply and completely " Love and respect

myself " .. Using this wording twice ,per cycle , I then proceed to the tapping

,cycle, as described in the manual..Total time is about 1 1/2 minutes after

mastering the tapping procedure..

Works for me 99% of the time, and if I need to reword it I do and the

remaining 1% works as well...

Hope this works for you and be well and prosper and sweet dreams.. Ole AL

Help for sleeping problems...

> >

> >

> > I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping problems, now that I

> understand that not

> > getting

> > enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known and unknown health

> problems. I am aware

> > that

> > my sleeping patterns can be contributing to my blood pressure rising and

> my problems getting

> > weight off. So, I'm focusing really hard on trying to improve my

> sleeping patterns.

> >

> > I think I get about four good hours of sleep a night. I stay in bed for

> longer, but my mind is

> > going a mile a minute, and I'm solving all the problems of the world. I

> believe I need more

> > sleep

> > if I am to have any hope to successfully and consistently get my blood

> pressure down and get

> > weight off.

> >

> > I am working with a Naturopath, who at first had me on Fire Sedate,

> which helped with the

> > night

> > sweats that come with being post-menopausal. Then, she switched me to a

> product called " Calm. "

> >

> > If I miss a dose of this stuff, the night sweats are back. But neither

> of these has helped

> > much

> > with giving me a longer sleep time. I think it may be improving the

> quality of the little

> > sleep I

> > get, but I'm still up and wide awake at 2 a.m. most days.

> >

> > I also have another sleep problem to deal with - if I wake up at 2 a.m.,

> I think I'm being

> > kept up

> > by my husband's snoring. I don't want to kick him out of bed, or sleep

> on the couch myself! I

> > don't know what to do about this!

> >

> > Help!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Some yoga and meditation wouldn't harm you ..........

Then, although it is from Big Pharma and known as 'the date rape drug', NOTHING

is wrong with GHB (gamma hydro butyrate), the contrary, I would say.

It is the only sleeping drug that allows for this R.E.M.-sleep and one wakes up

feeling refreshed and fit.

Any MD should be able to prescribe it.

DCH

Help for sleeping problems...

I am trying really hard to resolve my sleeping problems, now that I understand

that not getting

enough sleep can be causing all kinds of other known and unknown health

problems. I am aware that

my sleeping patterns can be contributing to my blood pressure rising and my

problems getting

weight off. So, I'm focusing really hard on trying to improve my sleeping

patterns.

I think I get about four good hours of sleep a night. I stay in bed for

longer, but my mind is

going a mile a minute, and I'm solving all the problems of the world. I

believe I need more sleep

if I am to have any hope to successfully and consistently get my blood

pressure down and get

weight off.

I am working with a Naturopath, who at first had me on Fire Sedate, which

helped with the night

sweats that come with being post-menopausal. Then, she switched me to a

product called " Calm. "

If I miss a dose of this stuff, the night sweats are back. But neither of

these has helped much

with giving me a longer sleep time. I think it may be improving the quality of

the little sleep I

get, but I'm still up and wide awake at 2 a.m. most days.

I also have another sleep problem to deal with - if I wake up at 2 a.m., I

think I'm being kept up

by my husband's snoring. I don't want to kick him out of bed, or sleep on the

couch myself! I

don't know what to do about this!

Help!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Have you tried a good quality extract of Valerian root? It works wonders

for me, but it didn't before I tried a very large dose (it would be

pretty hard to overdose on it).

I agree with the recommendation for trying L-Tryptophan as well. One of

the reasons it was banned was because of its effectiveness in fighting

sleeping disorders and depression.

I hadn't heard of thyroid problems being a cause before, but can see how

it could be...

One more thing that many people aren't aware of...

Your body requires absolute darkness to get the most restful sleep. Most

importantly, you shoul make sure you don't have any light 'shining'

directly on any part of your head - like an outside street light.

Also, I recall reading a study that claimed that the most important

sleep you can get is before midnight... I know I feel much better if I

go to sleep at 9:00pm and get up at 5:00, than I do if I go to bed at

12:00am, and get up at 8:00...