Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Dear Gail, I would say that the best way would be to do vaginal insufflation. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman Re: Ozone & chemo Hi Saul, What would be the best way to take/use ozone after having a lumpectomy because of breast cancer when starting up with chemo? Would funneling be the best choice or sauna? Would drinking it work? Thanks, Gail > > > Ozone works well in combination with chemotherapy, making the chemo much > safer, and less destructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Why would anybody EVER do chemo ? A PROPER diet and10 grams of ascorbic acid or more works FAR better and doesn't have side effects. Are there indeed still people who believe the lies of Big Pharma and their faithfull lackies ? DCH Re: Ozone & chemo Hi Saul, What would be the best way to take/use ozone after having a lumpectomy because of breast cancer when starting up with chemo? Would funneling be the best choice or sauna? Would drinking it work? Thanks, Gail > > > Ozone works well in combination with chemotherapy, making the chemo much > safer, and less destructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Hi Dirk, Because of Fear, for one. The doctors fear to offer any other options, for fear of the AMA/FDA coming down on them. Though surveys show that more than 65% of doctors say they would not do chemo if they had cancer, they still recommend it because it is the only AMA/FDA option. And patients believe that the doctor would not recommend something, unless it was the best option, and they fear to take responsibility for themselves. Lack of knowledge is foundational to that fear. People should not be expected to be health experts any more than they should be expected to be expert mechanics or tailors, or??? Most people are busy living and surviving and when cancer hits, they know they have time limitations, and cannot take years to study natural options. And it is overwhelming to them when they hit the internet and find so much conflicting information, or just too many options. Also, chemo is covered by insurance. Treating yourself naturally is not covered by insurance. There are so many factors. Lack of knowledge is the main key, I believe. Blessings Donna http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Free E Book Download http://www.excellentthings.com Dirk Chardet wrote: > > Why would anybody EVER do chemo ? > A PROPER diet and10 grams of ascorbic acid or more works FAR better > and doesn't have side effects. > Are there indeed still people who believe the lies of Big Pharma and > their faithfull lackies ? > DCH > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Hi Dirk, Because of Fear, for one. The doctors fear to offer any other options, for fear of the AMA/FDA coming down on them. Though surveys show that more than 65% of doctors say they would not do chemo if they had cancer, they still recommend it because it is the only AMA/FDA option. And patients believe that the doctor would not recommend something, unless it was the best option, and they fear to take responsibility for themselves. Lack of knowledge is foundational to that fear. People should not be expected to be health experts any more than they should be expected to be expert mechanics or tailors, or??? Most people are busy living and surviving and when cancer hits, they know they have time limitations, and cannot take years to study natural options. And it is overwhelming to them when they hit the internet and find so much conflicting information, or just too many options. Also, chemo is covered by insurance. Treating yourself naturally is not covered by insurance. There are so many factors. Lack of knowledge is the main key, I believe. Blessings Donna http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Free E Book Download http://www.excellentthings.com Dirk Chardet wrote: > > Why would anybody EVER do chemo ? > A PROPER diet and10 grams of ascorbic acid or more works FAR better > and doesn't have side effects. > Are there indeed still people who believe the lies of Big Pharma and > their faithfull lackies ? > DCH > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hi Donna, This is all pretty sad and it will only stop when people take responsibility for themselves and their own life. Which implicates that they get proper information on the facts regarding food, health and disease, instead of wasting time in front of a tv. Reading a few books like 'What doctors don't tell you' or 'Escaping the sickness industry' should be enough to make the average intelligent person think twice before just following the advices of any general practitioner or specialist. I don't mind if a mechanic takes a certain responsibility for my car, but as soon as my body is involved I will be in control, not some MD. Lack of knowledge ..... that's definitely a problem, but so is lack of interest (and probably lack of intelligence). Take care, D Re: Re: Ozone & chemo Hi Dirk, Because of Fear, for one. The doctors fear to offer any other options, for fear of the AMA/FDA coming down on them. Though surveys show that more than 65% of doctors say they would not do chemo if they had cancer, they still recommend it because it is the only AMA/FDA option. And patients believe that the doctor would not recommend something, unless it was the best option, and they fear to take responsibility for themselves. Lack of knowledge is foundational to that fear. People should not be expected to be health experts any more than they should be expected to be expert mechanics or tailors, or??? Most people are busy living and surviving and when cancer hits, they know they have time limitations, and cannot take years to study natural options. And it is overwhelming to them when they hit the internet and find so much conflicting information, or just too many options. Also, chemo is covered by insurance. Treating yourself naturally is not covered by insurance. There are so many factors. Lack of knowledge is the main key, I believe. Blessings Donna http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Free E Book Download http://www.excellentthings.com Dirk Chardet wrote: > > Why would anybody EVER do chemo ? > A PROPER diet and10 grams of ascorbic acid or more works FAR better > and doesn't have side effects. > Are there indeed still people who believe the lies of Big Pharma and > their faithfull lackies ? > DCH > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hi Gail, The latest I heard on the conventional treatment of cancer, is that it works for 2,3% of people ...... That's not particularly encouraging. But when people decide something different, they are on their own, all of a sudden and that scares them. The naturopath in Belgium I mentioned previously - Hugo Symens - claims he will cure anybody from cancer in a few weeks, only terminal patients will take slightly longer. With dogs I have done the same, a huge mammatumor gone in 4 weeks, bone cancer gone in 6 weeks, so I believe him. There are many different successful alternative therapies, but it takes also some intelligence to apply them. Ascorbic acid is brilliant, against cancer, but it should be given in the proper (large) quantities ....... Symens understands this and has the enthusiasm that convinces people it is worthwhile to follow his advices. This explains his success rate. There is only ONE thing conventional medicine is good at : traumatology. With a fractured skull after a car accident or so, one should go to a hospital, not an acupuncturist, homeopath or herbalist. For any chronic or degenerative disease, better to stay away. Cheers, D Re: Ozone & chemo > > > > Hi Saul, > > What would be the best way to take/use ozone after having a lumpectomy > because of breast cancer when starting up with chemo? Would funneling > be the best choice or sauna? Would drinking it work? > > Thanks, > > Gail > > > > > > Ozone works well in combination with chemotherapy, making the chemo > much > > safer, and less destructive. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hi Dirk, Well you post is a good example of how difficult it can be. I have studied health issues for most of my adult life. I am 56. And I have never heard of the two books that you mention. You can imagine that if I, a person actively seeking knowledge, have not heard of either of these books then imagine the chances of someone else never knowing about them. It is just a complex issue and I think compassion on sick people who lack knowledge is in order. It is not the fault of the average citizen that the American medical reality is distorted by money greed. Your desire to be in control of your body when it comes to illness is probably based on your confidence in yourself, based on your knowledge. A person without the knowledge base that you have would be fearful of trying to treat themselves, and rightly so. For most, the learning curve is just too great, especially when it comes to cancer. You need someone to tell you what to do immediately and you don't have time to learn, so you go for chemo because that is what the nice doctor tells you is your best option. He, or she, does not tell you that the percentage of people who survive cancer who do not do chemo is higher than the percentage of survival of those who do, do chemo. And even in the natural realm there are too many people out there just to make a buck on cancer victims. I send people to other people for product all the time because I don't carry everything that I know helps with cancer. But that is not how many operate. Many will tell you their product is all you need and that is probably never the case. There is just so much to it. I can understand your frustration with wondering why anyone would do chemo. I feel the same way, but I understand that I have a knowledge base that others don't have. I can understand their position, based on their lack of knowledge. My own daughter in law chose chemo and all I could do was love her and support her and not put added stress on her life by telling her how stupid I thought it was and that it would not work out well for her. Neither she nor my son had any other options emotionally. Blessings Donna http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Free E Book Download http://www.excellentthings.com Dirk Chardet wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > This is all pretty sad and it will only stop when people take > responsibility for themselves and their own life. > Which implicates that they get proper information on the facts > regarding food, health and disease, instead of wasting time in front > of a tv. > > Reading a few books like 'What doctors don't tell you' or 'Escaping > the sickness industry' should be enough to make the average > intelligent person think twice before just following the advices of > any general practitioner or specialist. > > I don't mind if a mechanic takes a certain responsibility for my car, > but as soon as my body is involved I will be in control, not some MD. > > Lack of knowledge ..... that's definitely a problem, but so is lack of > interest (and probably lack of intelligence). > > Take care, > D > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hi Dirk, Well you post is a good example of how difficult it can be. I have studied health issues for most of my adult life. I am 56. And I have never heard of the two books that you mention. You can imagine that if I, a person actively seeking knowledge, have not heard of either of these books then imagine the chances of someone else never knowing about them. It is just a complex issue and I think compassion on sick people who lack knowledge is in order. It is not the fault of the average citizen that the American medical reality is distorted by money greed. Your desire to be in control of your body when it comes to illness is probably based on your confidence in yourself, based on your knowledge. A person without the knowledge base that you have would be fearful of trying to treat themselves, and rightly so. For most, the learning curve is just too great, especially when it comes to cancer. You need someone to tell you what to do immediately and you don't have time to learn, so you go for chemo because that is what the nice doctor tells you is your best option. He, or she, does not tell you that the percentage of people who survive cancer who do not do chemo is higher than the percentage of survival of those who do, do chemo. And even in the natural realm there are too many people out there just to make a buck on cancer victims. I send people to other people for product all the time because I don't carry everything that I know helps with cancer. But that is not how many operate. Many will tell you their product is all you need and that is probably never the case. There is just so much to it. I can understand your frustration with wondering why anyone would do chemo. I feel the same way, but I understand that I have a knowledge base that others don't have. I can understand their position, based on their lack of knowledge. My own daughter in law chose chemo and all I could do was love her and support her and not put added stress on her life by telling her how stupid I thought it was and that it would not work out well for her. Neither she nor my son had any other options emotionally. Blessings Donna http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Free E Book Download http://www.excellentthings.com Dirk Chardet wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > This is all pretty sad and it will only stop when people take > responsibility for themselves and their own life. > Which implicates that they get proper information on the facts > regarding food, health and disease, instead of wasting time in front > of a tv. > > Reading a few books like 'What doctors don't tell you' or 'Escaping > the sickness industry' should be enough to make the average > intelligent person think twice before just following the advices of > any general practitioner or specialist. > > I don't mind if a mechanic takes a certain responsibility for my car, > but as soon as my body is involved I will be in control, not some MD. > > Lack of knowledge ..... that's definitely a problem, but so is lack of > interest (and probably lack of intelligence). > > Take care, > D > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Hi Donna, I advised my father years ago NOT to have that lung cancer operation. He called the hospital straight away and canceled it - leaving me in shock : he had become my responsibilty now. I got him a proper diet, foodsupplements etc. and in two years the grapefruit sized spot on his left lung had gone. His blood was already perfect after 6 months of dieting. He lived another 26 years without ever seeing a doctor again. When my sister-in-law was diagnosed with liver cancer, I sent her a letter (from Portugal, she was in Holland) advising her as well not to have the operation and giving her extensive info on diet and supplements - I had learned a LOT in the meantime. I did not get any reply, she had the operation, things were fine for a few months and very bad afterwards. Another operation was not possible and then my advice was asked. I told her what I would do in her situation - lots of supplements, especially Mega vit C - and she followed my advices. Six months later things were absolutely brilliant with her ; she felt as good as ever before. Then disaster happened ; she was still going to the hospital for regular check-ups and seeing her improvement the oncologist got very enthusiastic. He was not informed about her diet and supplements and believed that - a bit late, but better late than never - the effects of chemo and radiation had kicked in and that actually his treatment had practically cured her. He assured her then that " Just another series of radiation and chemo would kill the last remains of the cancer " . She accepted, got a second series of the conventional treatment, got terribly sick after a month, could not keep any food inside anymore, looked like a skeleton a few weeks later, didn't have the strength trying to take her supplements and asked the MD - in Holland euthanesia is allowed - for the final injection, to end her suffering ............. She got it and at 44 years she died. Pretty sad, isn't it ? Take care, D Re: Re: Ozone & chemo Hi Dirk, Well you post is a good example of how difficult it can be. I have studied health issues for most of my adult life. I am 56. And I have never heard of the two books that you mention. You can imagine that if I, a person actively seeking knowledge, have not heard of either of these books then imagine the chances of someone else never knowing about them. It is just a complex issue and I think compassion on sick people who lack knowledge is in order. It is not the fault of the average citizen that the American medical reality is distorted by money greed. Your desire to be in control of your body when it comes to illness is probably based on your confidence in yourself, based on your knowledge. A person without the knowledge base that you have would be fearful of trying to treat themselves, and rightly so. For most, the learning curve is just too great, especially when it comes to cancer. You need someone to tell you what to do immediately and you don't have time to learn, so you go for chemo because that is what the nice doctor tells you is your best option. He, or she, does not tell you that the percentage of people who survive cancer who do not do chemo is higher than the percentage of survival of those who do, do chemo. And even in the natural realm there are too many people out there just to make a buck on cancer victims. I send people to other people for product all the time because I don't carry everything that I know helps with cancer. But that is not how many operate. Many will tell you their product is all you need and that is probably never the case. There is just so much to it. I can understand your frustration with wondering why anyone would do chemo. I feel the same way, but I understand that I have a knowledge base that others don't have. I can understand their position, based on their lack of knowledge. My own daughter in law chose chemo and all I could do was love her and support her and not put added stress on her life by telling her how stupid I thought it was and that it would not work out well for her. Neither she nor my son had any other options emotionally. Blessings Donna http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Free E Book Download http://www.excellentthings.com Dirk Chardet wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > This is all pretty sad and it will only stop when people take > responsibility for themselves and their own life. > Which implicates that they get proper information on the facts > regarding food, health and disease, instead of wasting time in front > of a tv. > > Reading a few books like 'What doctors don't tell you' or 'Escaping > the sickness industry' should be enough to make the average > intelligent person think twice before just following the advices of > any general practitioner or specialist. > > I don't mind if a mechanic takes a certain responsibility for my car, > but as soon as my body is involved I will be in control, not some MD. > > Lack of knowledge ..... that's definitely a problem, but so is lack of > interest (and probably lack of intelligence). > > Take care, > D > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Hi Gail, Thank you for your friendly words. My experience is that simply taking the proper supplements solves many a problem and that from the regular healthcare system very little can be expected. What it provides usually makes us sick. A British friend here (in Portugal) went to the hospital because she had a 5 inch purple circle on her belly, because of a tick byte. She was given 3 different medications (some kind of 'heavy asperine' being one of them) and afterwards felt sicker by the day. I suggested not to take the drugs anymore, just 1 gram of vit C every hour and the next day already the spot had gone and she felt fine. Things can be really simple, especially when we know the importance of ascorbic acid. Cheers, D Re: Ozone & chemo Hi Dirk, I've also heard animals will often respond quicker than humans. Perhaps they don't carry unbelief as we so often will and simply recieve the healing. At any rate, your dogs are fortunate to have such a kind and caring master and friend. Gail -- In oxyplus , " Dirk Chardet " <chardetalvares@...> wrote: > >With dogs I have done the same, a huge mammatumor gone in 4 weeks, bone cancer gone in 6 weeks, so I believe him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Hi Gail, Just ' ascorbic acid, the pure crystalline powder' will do. Quantities to be taken shoud be built up gradually and since a very few people could experience some kidney problems because of megadoses, it would be wise to 'monitor' the kidneys using footreflexology. According to me ascorbic acid is the only form of vit C that is found in nature. I strongly distrust ALL other forms - buffered, as esthers, whatever - as I have bad experiences with one of them, the much more expensive, calcium ascorbate. Take care, D Re: Ozone & chemo Hi Dirk, May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the brand and things quit hurting. Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. Thank you, Gail > > > >With dogs I have done the same, a huge mammatumor gone in 4 weeks, > bone cancer gone in 6 weeks, so I believe him. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Hi Dirk, Gail I learned several years ago that ascorbic acid is NOT really vitamin C. It is a synthetic. It is used in drydocks to scour the hulls of ships. Very harsh, which is probably why it causes diarrhea if too much is taken. The real C, like all other " real " nutrients occurs only in nature. I saw photomicrographs in a chiropractors office of both ascorbic acid and naturally occuring C molecules. They were immensely different in appearance. If synthetic C can really help with cancer, then the real C should be exponentially more effective. The best source of real C is Amla powder, available from many HF stores and online. Rose Hips is good too, but Amla is much more potent. Corny --------- Re: Ozone & chemo Hi Dirk, May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the brand and things quit hurting. Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. Thank you, Gail > > > >With dogs I have done the same, a huge mammatumor gone in 4 weeks, > bone cancer gone in 6 weeks, so I believe him. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Hi Corny, Asorbic Acid is Vit C, but it is true that the 'synthetic form' (made out of corn) differs in molecular structure from the one found in rosebuds, for instance. But, the synthetic form works well and is affordable. I buy once a year about 28 kilos for 25$ per kilo. Rosebud vit C, if available by the kilo, must cost thousands ..... Nevertheless, when in India next time ('Amla' sounds HIndi to me), I'll try the powder there. DCH Re: Ozone & chemo Hi Dirk, May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the brand and things quit hurting. Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. Thank you, Gail > > > >With dogs I have done the same, a huge mammatumor gone in 4 weeks, > bone cancer gone in 6 weeks, so I believe him. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Hi Gail, I think the answer to your question is 'yes' and that even the Vit C will make the side effects of the chemo not as bad as usual, but don't ask from where I got this ............ I am the 3rd generation of 'health anarchists' (it all started in the 1930's with my grandparents in Amsterdam) and I have been reading 'subversive' literature since I was 15. There must be a few very good articles on cancer in the archives of Nexus Magazine (and of Vitamin Research Products - www.vrp.com - of course). It might be worthwhile to print and read them and give them to your cousin. You might find the proper answer and - who knows - your cousin might change his mind. Curing cancer is really 'a piece of cake' ; stay away from 'the system', make sure the immune system does it's job and it's done. Pathogens - invaders - like protozoa, that's another story. Take care, Dirk Chardet Re: Ozone & chemo > > > Hi Dirk, > > May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. > Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember > exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the > brand and things quit hurting. > > Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. > > Thank you, > > Gail > > > > > > > >With dogs I have done the same, a huge mammatumor gone in 4 > weeks, > > bone cancer gone in 6 weeks, so I believe him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Hi Gail, I think the answer to your question is 'yes' and that even the Vit C will make the side effects of the chemo not as bad as usual, but don't ask from where I got this ............ I am the 3rd generation of 'health anarchists' (it all started in the 1930's with my grandparents in Amsterdam) and I have been reading 'subversive' literature since I was 15. There must be a few very good articles on cancer in the archives of Nexus Magazine (and of Vitamin Research Products - www.vrp.com - of course). It might be worthwhile to print and read them and give them to your cousin. You might find the proper answer and - who knows - your cousin might change his mind. Curing cancer is really 'a piece of cake' ; stay away from 'the system', make sure the immune system does it's job and it's done. Pathogens - invaders - like protozoa, that's another story. Take care, Dirk Chardet Re: Ozone & chemo > > > Hi Dirk, > > May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. > Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember > exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the > brand and things quit hurting. > > Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. > > Thank you, > > Gail > > > > > > > >With dogs I have done the same, a huge mammatumor gone in 4 > weeks, > > bone cancer gone in 6 weeks, so I believe him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Gail, I did what was considered to be mega doses while on Chemo, 20 years ago for stage 3 . I took 20-25 grams daily and NEVER reached what they call bowel tolerance. I used to sail in and out of the doctors office with vibrant energy levels. Considering the doses, the nurses/doctors could not figure out why....and I didn't tell them. What was interesting was my discovery about needing the Vit C. It was preempted by an unrequited cravings of Orange Juice and anything that contained Vit C. Upon reading all of ing's books and speaking with one of his co authors Cameron in England, I knew I was doing the right thing. Today, I try not to take less than 5 grams a day. Dirk - Having seen first hand how the NCI in Bethesda MD. works must agree entirely with one of your statements and add my own analogy or perspective about Cancer treatment which is a multi-billion dollar capital venture. Cancer, as long as it remains the OZ hidden behind the curtain, the mysterious monster in the closet always waiting to pounce on an unsuspecting victim, it will be safe and productive within Western medicine, always requiring an exclusive " expert " pharma rep. ...namely, doctors, aka popes of hope. to unravel its mystery. It is no so. Cancer is a systemic dysfunction of energy bodies on all levels. Mind, Body and Soul, cannot effectively be addressed individually and this is exactly what Western medicine does by addressing the body only. Dirk Chardet <chardetalvares@...> wrote: Hi Gail, I think the answer to your question is 'yes' and that even the Vit C will make the side effects of the chemo not as bad as usual, but don't ask from where I got this ............ I am the 3rd generation of 'health anarchists' (it all started in the 1930's with my grandparents in Amsterdam) and I have been reading 'subversive' literature since I was 15. There must be a few very good articles on cancer in the archives of Nexus Magazine (and of Vitamin Research Products - www.vrp.com - of course). It might be worthwhile to print and read them and give them to your cousin. You might find the proper answer and - who knows - your cousin might change his mind. Curing cancer is really 'a piece of cake' ; stay away from 'the system', make sure the immune system does it's job and it's done. Pathogens - invaders - like protozoa, that's another story. Take care, Dirk Chardet Re: Ozone & chemo > > > Hi Dirk, > > May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. > Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember > exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the > brand and things quit hurting. > > Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. > > Thank you, > > Gail > > > > > > > >With dogs I have done the same, a huge mammatumor gone in 4 > weeks, > > bone cancer gone in 6 weeks, so I believe him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Carol Ann, Thank you for sharing with us and for confirming that Mega Vit C can be taken together with chemo. I have taken up to 27 grams per day, partly as an experiment, partly to see what it would do with the joint problems I got when divorcing my first wife (funny what feelings of guilt can do). The joint problems had to be solved differently, by the way and now I take about 5 grams per day as well, like my dogs. It is unbelievable that the work of somebody like Linus ing - twice the Nobelprice for biochemistry - is hardly known by anybody. I was surprised a few years ago when learning about his 'Unified Theory on Human Cardiovascular Disease', postulated in 1989. This brilliant theory that literally explains EVERYTHING about the disease (also questions like 'why there is more plaque inside the artheries close to the heart'), should be known by EVERYBODY . However, I found out that most MDs had NEVER heard of it, even those practising alternative medicine. The sickness industry doesn't want people to be cured ; we just should take the drugs Big Pharma supplies us with. Enterovioform - forbidden in the West, because it has paralyzed people for life - is still over the counter available in Asia. I saw it in both India and Nepal. An advice printed on the package, that it should not be used for longer than 3 weeks without consulting a doctor, can't be expected to be followed by people who can't read ........ An anticancer drug from Russia (Hydrazine Sulphate, if I am not mistaken) was once tested by the FDA. This drug had two 'disadvantages' ; it was effective and it was cheap. When doing a double blind test, the FDA made sure that those taking the Hydrazine Sulphate were NOT informed about the fact that alcohol or tranquilizers were strictly forbidden : they would render the HS effectless. Men went on having their sixpacks, women their Prozac and the test results showed that there was no significant difference between those taking the HS or the palcebo. The problem was solved ; HS was not allowed in the USA. Cheers, Dirk Chardet ================================== Gail, I did what was considered to be mega doses while on Chemo, 20 years ago for stage 3 . I took 20-25 grams daily and NEVER reached what they call bowel tolerance. I used to sail in and out of the doctors office with vibrant energy levels. Considering the doses, the nurses/doctors could not figure out why....and I didn't tell them. What was interesting was my discovery about needing the Vit C. It was preempted by an unrequited cravings of Orange Juice and anything that contained Vit C. Upon reading all of ing's books and speaking with one of his co authors Cameron in England, I knew I was doing the right thing. Today, I try not to take less than 5 grams a day. Dirk - Having seen first hand how the NCI in Bethesda MD. works, I must agree entirely with one of your statements and add my own analogy or perspective about Cancer treatment which is a multi-billion dollar capital venture. Cancer, as long as it remains the OZ hidden behind the curtain, the mysterious monster in the closet always waiting to pounce on an unsuspecting victim, it will be safe and productive within Western medicine, always requiring an exclusive " expert " pharma rep. ...namely, doctors, aka popes of hope. to unravel its mystery. It is no so. Cancer is a systemic dysfunction of energy bodies on all levels. Mind, Body and Soul, cannot effectively be addressed individually and this is exactly what Western medicine does by addressing the body only. ================================================ Dirk Chardet <chardetalvares@...> wrote : Hi Gail, I think the answer to your question is 'yes' and that even the Vit C will make the side effects of the chemo not as bad as usual, but don't ask from where I got this ............ I am the 3rd generation of 'health anarchists' (it all started in the 1930's with my grandparents in Amsterdam) and I have been reading 'subversive' literature since I was 15. There must be a few very good articles on cancer in the archives of Nexus Magazine (and of Vitamin Research Products - www.vrp.com - of course). It might be worthwhile to print and read them and give them to your cousin. You might find the proper answer and - who knows - your cousin might change his mind. Curing cancer is really 'a piece of cake' ; stay away from 'the system', make sure the immune system does it's job and it's done. Pathogens - invaders - like protozoa, that's another story. Take care, Dirk Chardet ============================================= From: wanda85929 Hi Dirk, Can one do mega doses when doing chemo? I know that makes one really sick, but I also know my cousin is going to do just that. I am hoping inbetween sessions she will be able to down the C. ========================================= -- In oxyplus , " Dirk Chardet " wrote: Just ' ascorbic acid, the pure crystalline powder' will do. Quantities to be taken shoud be built up gradually and since a very few people could experience some kidney problems because of megadoses, it would be wise to 'monitor' the kidneys using footreflexology. According to me ascorbic acid is the only form of vit C that is found in nature. I strongly distrust ALL other forms - buffered, as esthers, whatever - as I have bad experiences with one of them, the much more expensive, calcium ascorbate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Which form ? Re: Ozone & chemo > > Hi Dirk, > > May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. > Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember > exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the > brand and things quit hurting. > > Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. > > Thank you, > > Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 ing recommends Ascorbic Acid. I switch back and forth to various buffered types as well but with time release not more than 1 gram at a time. Dirk Chardet <chardetalvares@...> wrote: Which form ? Re: Ozone & chemo > > Hi Dirk, > > May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. > Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember > exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the > brand and things quit hurting. > > Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. > > Thank you, > > Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 ing recommends Ascorbic Acid. I switch back and forth to various buffered types as well but with time release not more than 1 gram at a time. Dirk Chardet <chardetalvares@...> wrote: Which form ? Re: Ozone & chemo > > Hi Dirk, > > May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. > Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember > exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the > brand and things quit hurting. > > Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. > > Thank you, > > Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 I'm cracking up over here. So it's not just me. My mom's doctor asked a friend of mine if I was delusional. She said, " No. " and asked him why he was asking, He said because I asked questions about my mom's condition. Just unbelievable. Later on he asked my mom for information from me, from time to time. Blessings Donna http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Free E Book Download http://www.excellentthings.com Carol Ann wrote: > > I found out later after acquiring my medical records that I was > considered one of the worst patients they ever experienced. The > doctors and nurses via their notes, recommended " psychiatric > counseling " .....because I asked too many questions and was adamant > about making many of my own treatment decisions. Can u imagine > that....? Patients at the NIH and NCI are otherwise shuffled around > like helpless cattle. > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Why not just stick to Ascorbic Acid ? 'Time release C' often is not well absorbed and the buffered types (at least Calcium Ascorbate) should be avoided completely. DCH Re: Ozone & chemo > > Hi Dirk, > > May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. > Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember > exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the > brand and things quit hurting. > > Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. > > Thank you, > > Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Hi Carol Ann, So ............. if you don't want to draw attention to yourself, you should behave like a believer and not ask or question anything. I had plenty of clashes with MDs and such as well. Once I told a nurse that my daughter was not going to have ANY of the vaccinations the Dutch health system is so generous with. When she had found her breath again, I was told : 'That is YOUR responisbility then'. I told he that is was my responsibility ANYHOW and that I felt more comfortable her not getting any jabs. Sure, dogs and most animals make their own vit C, but I have this theory that elder dogs don't make enough of it anymore (as part of the 'free radical theory of aging'). Then I believe that certain breeds - the ones with the 'big heads' - have an immature immune system and don't make enough vit C either. Cheers, Dirk Chardet Re: Re: Ozone & chemo Hi Dirk, In addition to large doses of Vit C I also obtained an Acupuncturist and used Chinese Herbs. Shiatsu once a week. I also avoided their highly recommended bone scans as if they were the plague. Its been 20 years and I have never been back for another test...of any kind. I found out later after acquiring my medical records that I was considered one of the worst patients they ever experienced. The doctors and nurses via their notes, recommended " psychiatric counseling " .....because I asked too many questions and was adamant about making many of my own treatment decisions. Can u imagine that....? Patients at the NIH and NCI are otherwise shuffled around like helpless cattle. BTW, animals (dogs) make sufficient Vitamin C, human beings do not. No kidding. Go to any hospital today, ask some employees if they know what MSRA is and three out of five will give you this baffled stupified look. When one of my sons was admitted last year for Diverticulitis his caretakers were puzzled as to why I was watching them like a hawk and constantly wiping down the door nobs, bed rails, telephones and anything they brought in with Lavender EO. A good friend of mine who is a nurse, will never take more than 500 mg of Vit C because anything else is beyond the FDA guidelines. He had absolutely no idea who ing was... Support staff, nurses, doctors, etc. need salaries as well and few today take up " health care " for humanatarian reasons. Dirk Chardet <chardetalvares@...> wrote: Carol Ann, Thank you for sharing with us and for confirming that Mega Vit C can be taken together with chemo. I have taken up to 27 grams per day, partly as an experiment, partly to see what it would do with the joint problems I got when divorcing my first wife (funny what feelings of guilt can do). The joint problems had to be solved differently, by the way and now I take about 5 grams per day as well, like my dogs. Regards, Carol Ann ~ Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Because my facial lymph glands swelled up like mumps when I took a lot of straight ascorbic acid. I find Natural C or Ester C I can use larger quantities. Dirk Chardet wrote: > > Why not just stick to Ascorbic Acid ? > 'Time release C' often is not well absorbed and the buffered types (at > least Calcium Ascorbate) should be avoided completely. > > DCH > > Re: Ozone & chemo > > > > Hi Dirk, > > > > May I ask if there is a certain brand of vitamin C one should use. > > Seems like I've read sometimes some vitamin C will (I can't remember > > exactly what for sure) their joints ache or something. Changed the > > brand and things quit hurting. > > > > Will certainly tell my cousin about the C. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Gail > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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