Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 My has ocd, Touretts and bipolar with psychotic features. The psychosis came when she was really manic. She was tried on anafrinil when she was 10 but it made her manic although it helped with the OCD. Kathy <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Should have mentioned that Luvox made her manic as well. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Hi Judy, My dd (17) has been called OCD with psychotic features, but not bipolar. The Psychotic features means that the doctor thinks that some of the thoughts are not grounded in reality (hallucinations or delusions). In my daughter's case, I don't agree with this diagnosis, and we've seen other doctors who don't either. " Psychotic features " is not a diagnosis, but just a modifier for the OCD diagnosis. Bipolar can have the " psychotic features " modifier also. I would want to know (1) if your son had really been psychotic and (2) if it came from the OCD or the bipolar. I can imagine that it would be very difficult to answer these questions. Have you gotten a second opinion? Luvox is an SSRI, in the same class of drugs as Prozac and Zoloft. Five SSRIs are approved by the FDA for OCD as first line treatments. Anafril is an older drug that can cause heart problems. Usually Anafril is used if/after the other SSRIs fail. I would question the use of Anafril in such a young kid. Do a google search on these drugs to learn more about them. Good luck, Imogene -another p-doc visit Hi All, Just wanted to see what you guys think of this. I brought my son(5) today for his appointment and he said that he feels my son has ocd with psychotic features. Has anyone heard of this diagnosis? My son was diagnosed a few months back with ocd and bipolar. I was just curious if any of your children's doctors have used this diagnosis for the bad thought ocd. Also, he wants to try my son on either Anafranil or Luvox. I remember in the past some of you mentioning these meds. I thought the Anafranil was for the older kids? Just wanted your input !!!!! thanks and hugs Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Hi, I'm new here and just introduced myself. I had to comment on this one. I'm here because of my dd with OCD, but I also have OCD and also bipolar. I had never heard of psychotic features with OCD...isn't one of the hallmarks of OCD is that the person knows the obessions and compulsions are not logical? The only time I had psychosis was post-partem which exacerbated my bipolar (mixed state) and OCD (which is when I got diagnosed) Well, I'm here to learn...but I just had never heard of that. > > Hi Judy, > > My dd (17) has been called OCD with psychotic features, but not bipolar. The Psychotic features means that the doctor thinks that some of the thoughts are not grounded in reality (hallucinations or delusions). In my daughter's case, I don't agree with this diagnosis, and we've seen other doctors who don't either. > > " Psychotic features " is not a diagnosis, but just a modifier for the OCD diagnosis. Bipolar can have the " psychotic features " modifier also. I would want to know (1) if your son had really been psychotic and (2) if it came from the OCD or the bipolar. I can imagine that it would be very difficult to answer these questions. Have you gotten a second opinion? > > Luvox is an SSRI, in the same class of drugs as Prozac and Zoloft. Five SSRIs are approved by the FDA for OCD as first line treatments. Anafril is an older drug that can cause heart problems. Usually Anafril is used if/after the other SSRIs fail. I would question the use of Anafril in such a young kid. Do a google search on these drugs to learn more about them. > > Good luck, Imogene > > > > -another p-doc visit > > Hi All, > Just wanted to see what you guys think of this. I brought my son (5) today for his appointment and he said that he feels my son has ocd with psychotic features. Has anyone heard of this diagnosis? My son was diagnosed a few months back with ocd and bipolar. I was just curious if any of your children's doctors have used this diagnosis for the bad thought ocd. > Also, he wants to try my son on either Anafranil or Luvox. I remember in the past some of you mentioning these meds. I thought the Anafranil was for the older kids? > Just wanted your input !!!!! > thanks and hugs > Judy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Hi, I'm new here and just introduced myself. I had to comment on this one. I'm here because of my dd with OCD, but I also have OCD and also bipolar. I had never heard of psychotic features with OCD...isn't one of the hallmarks of OCD is that the person knows the obessions and compulsions are not logical? The only time I had psychosis was post-partem which exacerbated my bipolar (mixed state) and OCD (which is when I got diagnosed) Well, I'm here to learn...but I just had never heard of that. > > Hi Judy, > > My dd (17) has been called OCD with psychotic features, but not bipolar. The Psychotic features means that the doctor thinks that some of the thoughts are not grounded in reality (hallucinations or delusions). In my daughter's case, I don't agree with this diagnosis, and we've seen other doctors who don't either. > > " Psychotic features " is not a diagnosis, but just a modifier for the OCD diagnosis. Bipolar can have the " psychotic features " modifier also. I would want to know (1) if your son had really been psychotic and (2) if it came from the OCD or the bipolar. I can imagine that it would be very difficult to answer these questions. Have you gotten a second opinion? > > Luvox is an SSRI, in the same class of drugs as Prozac and Zoloft. Five SSRIs are approved by the FDA for OCD as first line treatments. Anafril is an older drug that can cause heart problems. Usually Anafril is used if/after the other SSRIs fail. I would question the use of Anafril in such a young kid. Do a google search on these drugs to learn more about them. > > Good luck, Imogene > > > > -another p-doc visit > > Hi All, > Just wanted to see what you guys think of this. I brought my son (5) today for his appointment and he said that he feels my son has ocd with psychotic features. Has anyone heard of this diagnosis? My son was diagnosed a few months back with ocd and bipolar. I was just curious if any of your children's doctors have used this diagnosis for the bad thought ocd. > Also, he wants to try my son on either Anafranil or Luvox. I remember in the past some of you mentioning these meds. I thought the Anafranil was for the older kids? > Just wanted your input !!!!! > thanks and hugs > Judy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Judy, I am just wondering ... how do you keep your own ocd under control while dealing with the issues with your children? Kind Regards, jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote: Hi, and Welcome to the group!!! This group is what gets me through the day! I swear I'd never make it without everyone on here! My daughter (10) has ocd and bipolar also. She has never had any hallucinations or any type of psychosis. My son(5) on the other hand definitely has ocd, but the question is whether or not he has bipolar with it or the bad thought ocd.He knows now that what he sees is not real , but it could be because he started seeing and hearing things at age 4, and I immediately drilled it into his head that it was not real. When he sees things, you can see the terror in his eyes, but if I ask him about it, he'll say he knows it's not real. I never heard that term either. (((((((((((((Hugs))))))))))))))) Judy wallflower67 <wallflower67@...> wrote: Hi, I'm new here and just introduced myself. I had to comment on this one. I'm here because of my dd with OCD, but I also have OCD and also bipolar. I had never heard of psychotic features with OCD...isn't one of the hallmarks of OCD is that the person knows the obessions and compulsions are not logical? The only time I had psychosis was post-partem which exacerbated my bipolar (mixed state) and OCD (which is when I got diagnosed) Well, I'm here to learn...but I just had never heard of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Judy, I am just wondering ... how do you keep your own ocd under control while dealing with the issues with your children? Kind Regards, jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote: Hi, and Welcome to the group!!! This group is what gets me through the day! I swear I'd never make it without everyone on here! My daughter (10) has ocd and bipolar also. She has never had any hallucinations or any type of psychosis. My son(5) on the other hand definitely has ocd, but the question is whether or not he has bipolar with it or the bad thought ocd.He knows now that what he sees is not real , but it could be because he started seeing and hearing things at age 4, and I immediately drilled it into his head that it was not real. When he sees things, you can see the terror in his eyes, but if I ask him about it, he'll say he knows it's not real. I never heard that term either. (((((((((((((Hugs))))))))))))))) Judy wallflower67 <wallflower67@...> wrote: Hi, I'm new here and just introduced myself. I had to comment on this one. I'm here because of my dd with OCD, but I also have OCD and also bipolar. I had never heard of psychotic features with OCD...isn't one of the hallmarks of OCD is that the person knows the obessions and compulsions are not logical? The only time I had psychosis was post-partem which exacerbated my bipolar (mixed state) and OCD (which is when I got diagnosed) Well, I'm here to learn...but I just had never heard of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Hmmmm....if he's seeing things that aren't there, that would learn more towards psychosis, I would think. However....at age 5, maybe he is just envisioning the intrusive thoughts that he has. He may be " seeing it " in his mind, rather than over there by the TV. jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote: Hi, and Welcome to the group!!! This group is what gets me through the day! I swear I'd never make it without everyone on here! My daughter (10) has ocd and bipolar also. She has never had any hallucinations or any type of psychosis. My son(5) on the other hand definitely has ocd, but the question is whether or not he has bipolar with it or the bad thought ocd.He knows now that what he sees is not real , but it could be because he started seeing and hearing things at age 4, and I immediately drilled it into his head that it was not real. When he sees things, you can see the terror in his eyes, but if I ask him about it, he'll say he knows it's not real. I never heard that term either. (((((((((((((Hugs))))))))))))))) Judy wallflower67 wrote: Hi, I'm new here and just introduced myself. I had to comment on this one. I'm here because of my dd with OCD, but I also have OCD and also bipolar. I had never heard of psychotic features with OCD...isn't one of the hallmarks of OCD is that the person knows the obessions and compulsions are not logical? The only time I had psychosis was post-partem which exacerbated my bipolar (mixed state) and OCD (which is when I got diagnosed) Well, I'm here to learn...but I just had never heard of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 My son always says, " My mind is telling me " or " I see in my head " " but at other times he says he flat out sees someone in the corner or " they are telling him things " . The doctor explained to me today that this is psychosis.Yet he says it's " bad thought " ocd. After reading several books on ocd I understood that " bad thought ocd " was a form of ocd not psychosis, but my son's doctor said, " NO' I'm not a doctor, I am just a really confused mom !!!!!!!!!! Thanks for taking the time to respond! Hugs Judy wallflower <wallflower67@...> wrote: Hmmmm....if he's seeing things that aren't there, that would learn more towards psychosis, I would think. However....at age 5, maybe he is just envisioning the intrusive thoughts that he has. He may be " seeing it " in his mind, rather than over there by the TV. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 That is really confusing. Has he described the people in the corner who are telling him things? Does he tell you what they say? Do you see him talking to them? I'm not a doctor either, of course, but it seems like 5 is still young enough to not quite understand what is real or is not. All I have to go on with that is my own daughter's experience, and that is obviously skewed! jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote: My son always says, " My mind is telling me " or " I see in my head " " but at other times he says he flat out sees someone in the corner or " they are telling him things " . The doctor explained to me today that this is psychosis.Yet he says it's " bad thought " ocd. After reading several books on ocd I understood that " bad thought ocd " was a form of ocd not psychosis, but my son's doctor said, " NO' I'm not a doctor, I am just a really confused mom !!!!!!!!!! Thanks for taking the time to respond! Hugs Judy wallflower wrote: Hmmmm....if he's seeing things that aren't there, that would learn more towards psychosis, I would think. However....at age 5, maybe he is just envisioning the intrusive thoughts that he has. He may be " seeing it " in his mind, rather than over there by the TV. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 I have to say my son's " bad thoughts " have changed since he's been on the meds. He used to say horrible graphic things that I can't even say.He would say he saw these things in his head, or that something in his head was telling him that he or I were going to die or get stabbed, etc, etc. Now since the meds he hasn't heard anything. He just tells me that he sees people running past him or a man standing in the corner or on the stairs, etc. He says that they don't look at him or say anything to him. He does not talk to them. He is afraid of them. thanks for responding Hugs Judy wallflower <wallflower67@...> wrote: That is really confusing. Has he described the people in the corner who are telling him things? Does he tell you what they say? Do you see him talking to them? I'm not a doctor either, of course, but it seems like 5 is still young enough to not quite understand what is real or is not. All I have to go on with that is my own daughter's experience, and that is obviously skewed! jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote: My son always says, " My mind is telling me " or " I see in my head " " but at other times he says he flat out sees someone in the corner or " they are telling him things " . The doctor explained to me today that this is psychosis.Yet he says it's " bad thought " ocd. After reading several books on ocd I understood that " bad thought ocd " was a form of ocd not psychosis, but my son's doctor said, " NO' I'm not a doctor, I am just a really confused mom !!!!!!!!!! Thanks for taking the time to respond! Hugs Judy wallflower wrote: Hmmmm....if he's seeing things that aren't there, that would learn more towards psychosis, I would think. However....at age 5, maybe he is just envisioning the intrusive thoughts that he has. He may be " seeing it " in his mind, rather than over there by the TV. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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