Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 RE: pancreas > Nenah, I like the idea but is the only way to access this through various > practitioners? The public can't purchase it or utilize it for themselves? > Obie. Hi Obie. It's not as though you can push a button and run this software for testing or treatment, as you can with, for example, Rife technology or (even simpler) ozone therapy. There is an incredible lot to VoiceBio analysis -- so much, that you have to be trained. The mandatory training comes with the software, and it's about a thousand dollars. The training takes two full days. I think it's a great deal for what you're getting. There are two parts to the training provided by Dr. Kae -Liu. The first level consists of learning the art and science of voice analysis based on the graphs you get from the voice testing. There are multiple factors in understanding how to interpret a voiceprint. The more you know about physiology, healing, and the relationship of various body systems to other body systems, the better your interpretation will be. The second level consists of learning how to make tone boxes. It involves testing the person for one of three specialized types of brain dominance, and some involved mathematics to create the tone boxes based on the brain results. It's much harder than it sounds, which is why I do the analysis (rather well, I think) but do not make tone boxes yet (I'll be taking a refresher course to make sure I do it right). The tone box not only supplies the tones that the person needs, but (this is where the mathematics comes in) the way the sounds are configured actually forces the brain to start creating the missing or weak tones. This brings the VoiceBio therapy out of the allopathic (substitution) realm into the holistic (body heals itself) realm. No other sound therapy on the market can do this. Other sound therapy systems on the market use " one size fits all " formulas that sometimes work and sometimes don't work. Many of the frequencies are simply incorrect. That's because they are erroneously based on the molecular weight of an element instead of its frequency (two different measurements that have nothing to do with each other). Dr. -Liu is a brilliant naturopath who brings holistic medical training to the technology of voice analysis. I trust her knowledge, experience, integrity, and research. To further address your understandable desire to " do it yourself " : Fortunately, the curative aspects are not dependent on receiving a tone box. You can take your weakest note or couple of notes and hum them to heal. You can also listen to music in that key. Kae encourages people to do this, so that people are not dependent on the practitioner-provided tone boxes for their sole method of healing. However, tone boxes are easy to use and they do make the healing process go much faster. This was probably a longer answer than you wanted ;-), but I hope I've conveyed to you at least some of the complexities of the system. Blessings, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com New email address nenahsylver@... * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Yes, Nenah, I understand. Would you say how this practice is priced and can you refer a practitioner in Tulsa, please? Obie. _____ From: oxyplus [mailto:oxyplus ] On Behalf Of Nenah Sylver Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:26 AM oxyplus Subject: Re: pancreas / VoiceBio analysis RE: pancreas > Nenah, I like the idea but is the only way to access this through various > practitioners? The public can't purchase it or utilize it for themselves? > Obie. Hi Obie. It's not as though you can push a button and run this software for testing or treatment, as you can with, for example, Rife technology or (even simpler) ozone therapy. There is an incredible lot to VoiceBio analysis -- so much, that you have to be trained. The mandatory training comes with the software, and it's about a thousand dollars. The training takes two full days. I think it's a great deal for what you're getting. There are two parts to the training provided by Dr. Kae -Liu. The first level consists of learning the art and science of voice analysis based on the graphs you get from the voice testing. There are multiple factors in understanding how to interpret a voiceprint. The more you know about physiology, healing, and the relationship of various body systems to other body systems, the better your interpretation will be. The second level consists of learning how to make tone boxes. It involves testing the person for one of three specialized types of brain dominance, and some involved mathematics to create the tone boxes based on the brain results. It's much harder than it sounds, which is why I do the analysis (rather well, I think) but do not make tone boxes yet (I'll be taking a refresher course to make sure I do it right). The tone box not only supplies the tones that the person needs, but (this is where the mathematics comes in) the way the sounds are configured actually forces the brain to start creating the missing or weak tones. This brings the VoiceBio therapy out of the allopathic (substitution) realm into the holistic (body heals itself) realm. No other sound therapy on the market can do this. Other sound therapy systems on the market use " one size fits all " formulas that sometimes work and sometimes don't work. Many of the frequencies are simply incorrect. That's because they are erroneously based on the molecular weight of an element instead of its frequency (two different measurements that have nothing to do with each other). Dr. -Liu is a brilliant naturopath who brings holistic medical training to the technology of voice analysis. I trust her knowledge, experience, integrity, and research. To further address your understandable desire to " do it yourself " : Fortunately, the curative aspects are not dependent on receiving a tone box. You can take your weakest note or couple of notes and hum them to heal. You can also listen to music in that key. Kae encourages people to do this, so that people are not dependent on the practitioner-provided tone boxes for their sole method of healing. However, tone boxes are easy to use and they do make the healing process go much faster. This was probably a longer answer than you wanted ;-), but I hope I've conveyed to you at least some of the complexities of the system. Blessings, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com New email address nenahsylver@... * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 i had some of this done a few years ago. i thought the technology was pretty good and fairly accurate. a friend of mine does this and was trained by the top lady doing it. my friend lost interest in it as did i, and he is doing better just using common sense with exercise and diet than he did using the technology it was good in sort of a general way, but didnt tell me anything i didnt know already. RE: pancreas > Nenah, I like the idea but is the only way to access this through various > practitioners? The public can't purchase it or utilize it for themselves? > Obie. Hi Obie. It's not as though you can push a button and run this software for testing or treatment, as you can with, for example, Rife technology or (even simpler) ozone therapy. There is an incredible lot to VoiceBio analysis -- so much, that you have to be trained. The mandatory training comes with the software, and it's about a thousand dollars. The training takes two full days. I think it's a great deal for what you're getting. There are two parts to the training provided by Dr. Kae -Liu. The first level consists of learning the art and science of voice analysis based on the graphs you get from the voice testing. There are multiple factors in understanding how to interpret a voiceprint. The more you know about physiology, healing, and the relationship of various body systems to other body systems, the better your interpretation will be. The second level consists of learning how to make tone boxes. It involves testing the person for one of three specialized types of brain dominance, and some involved mathematics to create the tone boxes based on the brain results. It's much harder than it sounds, which is why I do the analysis (rather well, I think) but do not make tone boxes yet (I'll be taking a refresher course to make sure I do it right). The tone box not only supplies the tones that the person needs, but (this is where the mathematics comes in) the way the sounds are configured actually forces the brain to start creating the missing or weak tones. This brings the VoiceBio therapy out of the allopathic (substitution) realm into the holistic (body heals itself) realm. No other sound therapy on the market can do this. Other sound therapy systems on the market use " one size fits all " formulas that sometimes work and sometimes don't work. Many of the frequencies are simply incorrect. That's because they are erroneously based on the molecular weight of an element instead of its frequency (two different measurements that have nothing to do with each other). Dr. -Liu is a brilliant naturopath who brings holistic medical training to the technology of voice analysis. I trust her knowledge, experience, integrity, and research. To further address your understandable desire to " do it yourself " : Fortunately, the curative aspects are not dependent on receiving a tone box. You can take your weakest note or couple of notes and hum them to heal. You can also listen to music in that key. Kae encourages people to do this, so that people are not dependent on the practitioner-provided tone boxes for their sole method of healing. However, tone boxes are easy to use and they do make the healing process go much faster. This was probably a longer answer than you wanted ;-), but I hope I've conveyed to you at least some of the complexities of the system. Blessings, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com New email address nenahsylver@... * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 RE: pancreas / VoiceBio analysis > Yes, Nenah, I understand. Would you say how this practice is priced and > can > you refer a practitioner in Tulsa, please? Obie. Hi Obie. Every practitioner has his or her own fee. You can find a practitioner in your area by writing Dr. Kae at http://www.voicebio.com Best, Nenah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Re: pancreas / VoiceBio analysis >i had some of this done a few years ago. i thought the technology was >pretty good and fairly accurate. a friend of mine does this and was trained >by the top lady doing it. my friend lost interest in it as did i, and he is >doing better just using common sense with exercise and diet than he did >using the technology > > it was good in sort of a general way, but didnt tell me anything i didnt > know already. Some people find it validating to have a stranger tell them what they already know. It can help reinforce good health habits. Other people don't need it because they already know what's going on and what to do. Still others think they know and then are surprised to find some missing pieces to the puzzle, which ends up helping them. I think you're in category #2 ;-) Nenah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 which category are you? Re: pancreas / VoiceBio analysis >i had some of this done a few years ago. i thought the technology was >pretty good and fairly accurate. a friend of mine does this and was trained >by the top lady doing it. my friend lost interest in it as did i, and he is >doing better just using common sense with exercise and diet than he did >using the technology > > it was good in sort of a general way, but didnt tell me anything i didnt > know already. Some people find it validating to have a stranger tell them what they already know. It can help reinforce good health habits. Other people don't need it because they already know what's going on and what to do. Still others think they know and then are surprised to find some missing pieces to the puzzle, which ends up helping them. I think you're in category #2 ;-) Nenah OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Chuckle..... For me I feel the more I know, they less I know I actually know. Knowledge is endless and I surely don't even come close. Do know there is usually a $ amount of some sort some where, tho. How are you doing, Arthur? Don't hear much from you these days. Gail -- In oxyplus , " aluckower " <aluckower@...> wrote: > > which category are you? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nenah Sylver > oxyplus > > > Some people find it validating to have a stranger tell them what they > already know. It can help reinforce good health habits. Other people don't > need it because they already know what's going on and what to do. > > Still others think they know and then are surprised to find some missing > pieces to the puzzle, which ends up helping them. > > I think you're in category #2 ;-) > > Nenah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 NENAH > Some people find it validating to have a stranger tell them what they > already know. It can help reinforce good health habits. Other people > don't > need it because they already know what's going on and what to do. > Still others think they know and then are surprised to find some missing > pieces to the puzzle, which ends up helping them. ARTHUR > which category are you? NENAH I'm in the final category. Despite how much I know or think I know, there's always something else to learn. I had said in my prior email that you were in #2, based on what you yourself had told me. --Nenah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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