Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Angie,I have not had this experience but reading your post made me wonder if anything besides the tonsils is different? have you changed his diet in any way or is he under stress (family issues or something?) I read something cant remember if it was here or on another board about a small study of like 22 kids whose ADD behaviors went away after having tonsils removed so that is interesting and you should know they may affect behavior.lastly if you did not change his diet have you tried the GF/CF diet with him? we are CF but it does not effect behavior but both my boys tummies hurt and they get loose stoles, gas, and stuff. Its something to think about, if he is casein intolerant a large dose of dairy could cause loss of control?hthGretaOn Sep 12, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Angie wrote:My son is four-years-old. I never saw the big loss of skills all at when he was younger when I usually hear of it happening. For the past 2 months he has had a major regression. He went from being potty trained to no control for about a week. He had 4 - 5 word sentences and went to one word at best with very little understanding of anything said to him. After about a week he went back to being potty trained. His communication is better, but no where near where he used to be. He has more trouble understanding instructions (probably in general too as I think he operates on memory and guess correctly what he should do.) He lost meaning of simple instructions like 'back up'. Even with hand gestures and saying back up (in order to play with a ball) he just imitated hand motions instead of backing up. I was hoping that it wasn't true, but his sp. ed. teacher said she is seeing fairly significant loss of things that used to be very easy. Has anyone else experienced this sort of loss at age four? He was doing so well and then he regressed back to the beginning of when he was first diagnosed. It isn't the first time he regressed. He did go from an insanely coordinated one-year-old (hitting pitched baseball, etc.) to bottom 2% on physical therapy eval & can't even catch ball. That happened so slowly Ididn't even realize it was happening and originally thought it was because he was more focused on language, but I don't think that is it. He became sick at about the same time the regression happened. He has been consistently sick for the past few months. He had ever bug from cold - tummy. His tonsils are currently enlarged and he is having trouble breathing and sleeping. The doctor wanted to wait six months to see if they went down (he said age four they are as big as they will get.) Im not waiting any longer and have an appointment with ENT to see if they will have them removed at the encouragement of his therapists that say 'if you can't breath you can't learn.' They do not think his entire regression is based on tonsil issues though (in their opinion from working w/ kids.) So he does have a lot going on, but he was almost caught up to his age group. Now he is testing very low. He is essentially were he began when he was first diagnosed at 2 andthree quarters. His behavior has also gone down hill. He wont stop touching/kissing. He annoys to get a big reaction especially from his sister (she is two so it doesn't take much.) His OCD is back. He screams if he thinks something is being done wrong and can't stop until its corrected or stopped. A good example is his sister not putting her feet on the peddle of her tricycle and pushing with her feet to move instead. He could not handle that she was riding her trike like that. Argh, all that behavior had been addressed before this and he was fine with everything. Is this something anyone else has experienced? Any advice? I have never heard of a late regression of this magnitude at age four. He is stillwaiting for a waiver slot (it has been a year now.) Im really at a loss. I feel like Im losing my little boy and can't do anything about it. It is truly heart wrenching to watch. Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Hello Angie, I am really sorry for you and your family and the heartache of having to watch your son go through these things, my heart is with you. I do not have personal experience of this but have heard of regression happening even older then four. (This is something that I try not to think about too much otherwise I would be worried about it possibly happening to my son. He had a minor regression when about 3-4 can't remember exactly when but at the time I didn't realise what it was, it was I think completely set off by a severe tummy bug, he didn't eat or drink for nearly a week and we almost had to take him to hospital to be put on a drip, my son did regress, he went back to nappies, he barely talked and I do think that this contributed to other behaviours and difficulties also. I just live in hope that my son doesn't catch any bugs that would do the same again or even worse as it really seems to knock them and cause more difficulties.) I read a book called and Sam, it is written by a lady in the UK who described one of her two autistic boys as having a regression she called it sam's crash, I think he was 6. He regressed alot and was it traumatic for her to watch. So sorry I cannot be of any great help, I just wanted to say that I have heard of this happening and at this age and older, hopefully there will be others on this list that will post who may have some better advice... Best wishes to you and your family, .x. > > My son is four-years-old. I never saw the big loss of skills all at when he was younger > when I usually hear of it happening. For the past 2 months he has had a major regression. > He went from being potty trained to no control for about a week. He had 4 - 5 word > sentences and went to one word at best with very little understanding of anything said to > him. After about a week he went back to being potty trained. His communication is > better, but no where near where he used to be. He has more trouble understanding > instructions (probably in general too as I think he operates on memory and guess correctly > what he should do.) He lost meaning of simple instructions like 'back up'. Even with hand > gestures and saying back up (in order to play with a ball) he just imitated hand motions > instead of backing up. I was hoping that it wasn't true, but his sp. ed. teacher said she is > seeing fairly significant loss of things that used to be very easy. Has anyone else > experienced this sort of loss at age four? He was doing so well and then he regressed > back to the beginning of when he was first diagnosed. It isn't the first time he regressed. > He did go from an insanely coordinated one-year-old (hitting pitched baseball, etc.) to > bottom 2% on physical therapy eval & can't even catch ball. That happened so slowly I > didn't even realize it was happening and originally thought it was because he was more > focused on language, but I don't think that is it. He became sick at about the same time > the regression happened. He has been consistently sick for the past few months. He had > ever bug from cold - tummy. His tonsils are currently enlarged and he is having trouble > breathing and sleeping. The doctor wanted to wait six months to see if they went down > (he said age four they are as big as they will get.) Im not waiting any longer and have an > appointment with ENT to see if they will have them removed at the encouragement of his > therapists that say 'if you can't breath you can't learn.' They do not think his entire > regression is based on tonsil issues though (in their opinion from working w/ kids.) So he > does have a lot going on, but he was almost caught up to his age group. Now he is > testing very low. He is essentially were he began when he was first diagnosed at 2 and > three quarters. His behavior has also gone down hill. He wont stop touching/kissing. He > annoys to get a big reaction especially from his sister (she is two so it doesn't take much.) > His OCD is back. He screams if he thinks something is being done wrong and can't stop > until its corrected or stopped. A good example is his sister not putting her feet on the > peddle of her tricycle and pushing with her feet to move instead. He could not handle that > she was riding her trike like that. Argh, all that behavior had been addressed before this > and he was fine with everything. Is this something anyone else has experienced? Any > advice? I have never heard of a late regression of this magnitude at age four. He is still > waiting for a waiver slot (it has been a year now.) Im really at a loss. I feel like Im losing > my little boy and can't do anything about it. It is truly heart wrenching to watch. > Angie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Angie, Did he get his 4-year old vaccinations? I have met many people who say that they cause huge regressions due to mercury (and other addiditves to vaccinations) toxicity (poisoning). Have you had titer tests done to see what his immunity levels are (and if there is toxicity going on)? Also, you can try detoxification for whatever is already toxic in his body. Has he had a full blood work-up? I think that would be a good place to start...to see what is toxic in his body that is causing this...chances are his levels are high for a number of things. I caught my daughter just in time before her 4 year old shots and found that her titer tests showed 4-5 times the immunity level for all but one of the nine viruses they were planning on vaccinating her for. Doing that would have caused unbelievable damage to her. Most people say that the symptoms worsen over night after the shots... Elissa Check out my myspace http://www.myspace.com/elissamercado Chat in 3D http://imvu.com/catalog/web_invitation.php?userId=12957275 & from=power-email Regression Help My son is four-years-old. I never saw the big loss of skills all at when he was younger when I usually hear of it happening. For the past 2 months he has had a major regression. He went from being potty trained to no control for about a week. He had 4 - 5 word sentences and went to one word at best with very little understanding of anything said to him. After about a week he went back to being potty trained. His communication is better, but no where near where he used to be. He has more trouble understanding instructions (probably in general too as I think he operates on memory and guess correctly what he should do.) He lost meaning of simple instructions like 'back up'. Even with hand gestures and saying back up (in order to play with a ball) he just imitated hand motions instead of backing up. I was hoping that it wasn't true, but his sp. ed. teacher said she is seeing fairly significant loss of things that used to be very easy. Has anyone else experienced this sort of loss at age four? He was doing so well and then he regressed back to the beginning of when he was first diagnosed. It isn't the first time he regressed. He did go from an insanely coordinated one-year-old (hitting pitched baseball, etc.) to bottom 2% on physical therapy eval & can't even catch ball. That happened so slowly I didn't even realize it was happening and originally thought it was because he was more focused on language, but I don't think that is it. He became sick at about the same time the regression happened. He has been consistently sick for the past few months. He had ever bug from cold - tummy. His tonsils are currently enlarged and he is having trouble breathing and sleeping. The doctor wanted to wait six months to see if they went down (he said age four they are as big as they will get.) Im not waiting any longer and have an appointment with ENT to see if they will have them removed at the encouragement of his therapists that say 'if you can't breath you can't learn.' They do not think his entire regression is based on tonsil issues though (in their opinion from working w/ kids.) So he does have a lot going on, but he was almost caught up to his age group. Now he is testing very low. He is essentially were he began when he was first diagnosed at 2 and three quarters. His behavior has also gone down hill. He wont stop touching/kissing. He annoys to get a big reaction especially from his sister (she is two so it doesn't take much.) His OCD is back. He screams if he thinks something is being done wrong and can't stop until its corrected or stopped. A good example is his sister not putting her feet on the peddle of her tricycle and pushing with her feet to move instead. He could not handle that she was riding her trike like that. Argh, all that behavior had been addressed before this and he was fine with everything. Is this something anyone else has experienced? Any advice? I have never heard of a late regression of this magnitude at age four. He is still waiting for a waiver slot (it has been a year now.) Im really at a loss. I feel like Im losing my little boy and can't do anything about it. It is truly heart wrenching to watch. Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 i would suggest taking him to a neurologist to rule out seizures, just to be on the safe side. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 I am a little over-protective but I would contact his doctor asap. It sounds like a very noticeable regression and I would want to know if anything had happened neurologically to cause it. If nothing else they can give you some comfort and reassurance if it is to be expected. CC > > My son is four-years-old. I never saw the big loss of skills all at when he was younger > when I usually hear of it happening. For the past 2 months he has had a major regression. > He went from being potty trained to no control for about a week. He had 4 - 5 word > sentences and went to one word at best with very little understanding of anything said to > him. After about a week he went back to being potty trained. His communication is > better, but no where near where he used to be. He has more trouble understanding > instructions (probably in general too as I think he operates on memory and guess correctly > what he should do.) He lost meaning of simple instructions like 'back up'. Even with hand > gestures and saying back up (in order to play with a ball) he just imitated hand motions > instead of backing up. I was hoping that it wasn't true, but his sp. ed. teacher said she is > seeing fairly significant loss of things that used to be very easy. Has anyone else > experienced this sort of loss at age four? He was doing so well and then he regressed > back to the beginning of when he was first diagnosed. It isn't the first time he regressed. > He did go from an insanely coordinated one-year-old (hitting pitched baseball, etc.) to > bottom 2% on physical therapy eval & can't even catch ball. That happened so slowly I > didn't even realize it was happening and originally thought it was because he was more > focused on language, but I don't think that is it. He became sick at about the same time > the regression happened. He has been consistently sick for the past few months. He had > ever bug from cold - tummy. His tonsils are currently enlarged and he is having trouble > breathing and sleeping. The doctor wanted to wait six months to see if they went down > (he said age four they are as big as they will get.) Im not waiting any longer and have an > appointment with ENT to see if they will have them removed at the encouragement of his > therapists that say 'if you can't breath you can't learn.' They do not think his entire > regression is based on tonsil issues though (in their opinion from working w/ kids.) So he > does have a lot going on, but he was almost caught up to his age group. Now he is > testing very low. He is essentially were he began when he was first diagnosed at 2 and > three quarters. His behavior has also gone down hill. He wont stop touching/kissing. He > annoys to get a big reaction especially from his sister (she is two so it doesn't take much.) > His OCD is back. He screams if he thinks something is being done wrong and can't stop > until its corrected or stopped. A good example is his sister not putting her feet on the > peddle of her tricycle and pushing with her feet to move instead. He could not handle that > she was riding her trike like that. Argh, all that behavior had been addressed before this > and he was fine with everything. Is this something anyone else has experienced? Any > advice? I have never heard of a late regression of this magnitude at age four. He is still > waiting for a waiver slot (it has been a year now.) Im really at a loss. I feel like Im losing > my little boy and can't do anything about it. It is truly heart wrenching to watch. > Angie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 One thing stuck out at me not all sure what exactly goes on with it but there is one of the disorders on the ASD that deals with a child going from being able to do things to losing that ability as the years go on .With out a doubt go back to the Drs. neurologist ones who specialize in ASD get him checked out again .Like the other response said Look into seizures.if he isn't already get him involved with the pt,ot.I agree also it is heart wrenching to see your child go through this.I hope you have a good support system for you at home.another thing besides the vaccines (if he had one recently) is have there been any changes in his life (school,home,etc..)you said his tonsils are enlarged .do they know why?? if he is having trouble breathing and sleeping he could be losing functioning that way .you don't sleep or get enough oxygen inside you you don't do well.If an adult misses an hour of sleep we can deal but it can hinder us to a point now children need more hours of sleep than we do if that sleep is disrupted in anyway that can cause problems in his awake activities.So i would also suggest a sleep clinic to see what is up with the sleeping could he be getting sleep apnea.is he going into the rem sleep is he getting enough rem sleep(my son had to do the sleep clinic the only thing they discovered was he wasn't staying in rem long enough. I would also suggest you start writing down everything you are noticing with him and then make an appt. and bring it with you.write what ,where ,when ect..... to see if there is any connection to something environmental.I really feel for you it flat out sucks when you see ur child like this and you cannot fix it .keep us updatedVickie Re: Regression Help Hello Angie, I am really sorry for you and your family and the heartache of having to watch your son go through these things, my heart is with you. I do not have personal experience of this but have heard of regression happening even older then four. (This is something that I try not to think about too much otherwise I would be worried about it possibly happening to my son. He had a minor regression when about 3-4 can't remember exactly when but at the time I didn't realise what it was, it was I think completely set off by a severe tummy bug, he didn't eat or drink for nearly a week and we almost had to take him to hospital to be put on a drip, my son did regress, he went back to nappies, he barely talked and I do think that this contributed to other behaviours and difficulties also. I just live in hope that my son doesn't catch any bugs that would do the same again or even worse as it really seems to knock them and cause more difficulties. ) I read a book called and Sam, it is written by a lady in the UK who described one of her two autistic boys as having a regression she called it sam's crash, I think he was 6. He regressed alot and was it traumatic for her to watch. So sorry I cannot be of any great help, I just wanted to say that I have heard of this happening and at this age and older, hopefully there will be others on this list that will post who may have some better advice... Best wishes to you and your family, .x. > > My son is four-years-old. I never saw the big loss of skills all at when he was younger > when I usually hear of it happening. For the past 2 months he has had a major regression. > He went from being potty trained to no control for about a week. He had 4 - 5 word > sentences and went to one word at best with very little understanding of anything said to > him. After about a week he went back to being potty trained. His communication is > better, but no where near where he used to be. He has more trouble understanding > instructions (probably in general too as I think he operates on memory and guess correctly > what he should do.) He lost meaning of simple instructions like 'back up'. Even with hand > gestures and saying back up (in order to play with a ball) he just imitated hand motions > instead of backing up. I was hoping that it wasn't true, but his sp. ed. teacher said she is > seeing fairly significant loss of things that used to be very easy. Has anyone else > experienced this sort of loss at age four? He was doing so well and then he regressed > back to the beginning of when he was first diagnosed. It isn't the first time he regressed. > He did go from an insanely coordinated one-year-old (hitting pitched baseball, etc.) to > bottom 2% on physical therapy eval & can't even catch ball. That happened so slowly I > didn't even realize it was happening and originally thought it was because he was more > focused on language, but I don't think that is it. He became sick at about the same time > the regression happened. He has been consistently sick for the past few months. He had > ever bug from cold - tummy. His tonsils are currently enlarged and he is having trouble > breathing and sleeping. The doctor wanted to wait six months to see if they went down > (he said age four they are as big as they will get.) Im not waiting any longer and have an > appointment with ENT to see if they will have them removed at the encouragement of his > therapists that say 'if you can't breath you can't learn.' They do not think his entire > regression is based on tonsil issues though (in their opinion from working w/ kids.) So he > does have a lot going on, but he was almost caught up to his age group. Now he is > testing very low. He is essentially were he began when he was first diagnosed at 2 and > three quarters. His behavior has also gone down hill. He wont stop touching/kissing. He > annoys to get a big reaction especially from his sister (she is two so it doesn't take much.) > His OCD is back. He screams if he thinks something is being done wrong and can't stop > until its corrected or stopped. A good example is his sister not putting her feet on the > peddle of her tricycle and pushing with her feet to move instead. He could not handle that > she was riding her trike like that. Argh, all that behavior had been addressed before this > and he was fine with everything. Is this something anyone else has experienced? Any > advice? I have never heard of a late regression of this magnitude at age four. He is still > waiting for a waiver slot (it has been a year now.) Im really at a loss. I feel like Im losing > my little boy and can't do anything about it. It is truly heart wrenching to watch. > Angie > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Thanks to all that responded to my post! Here are a few responses. I haven't tried GF/CF diet. I haven't been able to find a time when we could go all out and do it right. Plus it is expensive (at least around here the food is 2 - 3 times the cost. He has been tested and scored a sensitivity of 0 (.32 I think.) I have been weighing the option of seeing a DAN! doctor and going a biomedical route. The only thing holding me back is the cost. The doctor here which I hear is very good is $400 and hour. For my son that is the equivalent of five hours of speech therapy. If the visit lasts two hours (which my friend that went did) that would mean ten ST hours. Since money is limited I have a difficult time with the cost of a one hour visit to the DAN! doctor because Im sure there is an additional cost of lab tests. I know my insurance doesn't cover it. If only money wasn't a limiting factor! I do have an appointment with an ENT tomorrow. It will be interesting to see what he has to say as far as the regression is concerned. My son's allergies are acting up so he is extra cranky (don't blame him as he is looks miserable.) If he says anything of significance I will post as an FYI. I hadn't thought of seizures. I will have to take that into consideration and call his neurologist to see what she suggests. My son's doctor said he would be more concerned if my son wasn't starting to regain some of the skills he lost. I think his theory is that every child cycles and my son's down cycle went lower than the norm, but now he is on an upswing (albeit slow.) I will have to look for the book & Sam. It sounds very interesting. Angie ---------------------------------------------------------- I am a little over-protective but I would contact his doctor asap. It sounds like a very noticeable regression and I would want to know if anything had happened neurologically to cause it. If nothing else they can give you some comfort and reassurance if it is to be expected. CC --------------------------------------------------------- i would suggest taking him to a neurologist to rule out seizures, just to be on the safe side. ---------------------------------------------------------- Hello Angie, I am really sorry for you and your family and the heartache of having to watch your son go through these things, my heart is with you. I do not have personal experience of this but have heard of regression happening even older then four. (This is something that I try not to think about too much otherwise I would be worried about it possibly happening to my son. He had a minor regression when about 3-4 can't remember exactly when but at the time I didn't realise what it was, it was I think completely set off by a severe tummy bug, he didn't eat or drink for nearly a week and we almost had to take him to hospital to be put on a drip, my son did regress, he went back to nappies, he barely talked and I do think that this contributed to other behaviours and difficulties also. I just live in hope that my son doesn't catch any bugs that would do the same again or even worse as it really seems to knock them and cause more difficulties. ) I read a book called and Sam, it is written by a lady in the UK who described one of her two autistic boys as having a regression she called it sam's crash, I think he was 6. He regressed alot and was it traumatic for her to watch. So sorry I cannot be of any great help, I just wanted to say that I have heard of this happening and at this age and older, hopefully there will be others on this list that will post who may have some better advice... Best wishes to you and your family, .x. ---------------------------------------------------- Angie, Did he get his 4-year old vaccinations? I have met many people who say that they cause huge regressions due to mercury (and other addiditves to vaccinations) toxicity (poisoning). Have you had titer tests done to see what his immunity levels are (and if there is toxicity going on)? Also, you can try detoxification for whatever is already toxic in his body. Has he had a full blood work-up? I think that would be a good place to start...to see what is toxic in his body that is causing this...chances are his levels are high for a number of things. I caught my daughter just in time before her 4 year old shots and found that her titer tests showed 4-5 times the immunity level for all but one of the nine viruses they were planning on vaccinating her for. Doing that would have caused unbelievable damage to her. Most people say that the symptoms worsen over night after the shots... Elissa --------------------------------------------------------- Angie, I have not had this experience but reading your post made me wonder if anything besides the tonsils is different? have you changed his diet in any way or is he under stress (family issues or something?) I read something cant remember if it was here or on another board about a small study of like 22 kids whose ADD behaviors went away after having tonsils removed so that is interesting and you should know they may affect behavior. lastly if you did not change his diet have you tried the GF/CF diet with him? we are CF but it does not effect behavior but both my boys tummies hurt and they get loose stoles, gas, and stuff. Its something to think about, if he is casein intolerant a large dose of dairy could cause loss of control? hth Greta --------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Angie, Please look into getting his titer tests done. If you can give him some detox (if his levels are high), it would definitely help his symptoms Elissa Re: Regression Help Thanks to all that responded to my post! Here are afew responses.I haven't tried GF/CF diet. I haven't been able tofind a time when we could go all out and do it right. Plus it is expensive (at least around here the food is2 - 3 times the cost. He has been tested and scored asensitivity of 0 (.32 I think.) I have been weighingthe option of seeing a DAN! doctor and going abiomedical route. The only thing holding me back isthe cost. The doctor here which I hear is very goodis $400 and hour. For my son that is the equivalentof five hours of speech therapy. If the visit laststwo hours (which my friend that went did) that wouldmean ten ST hours. Since money is limited I have adifficult time with the cost of a one hour visit tothe DAN! doctor because Im sure there is an additionalcost of lab tests. I know my insurance doesn't coverit. If only money wasn't a limiting factor!I do have an appointment with an ENT tomorrow. Itwill be interesting to see what he has to say as faras the regression is concerned. My son's allergiesare acting up so he is extra cranky (don't blame himas he is looks miserable.) If he says anything ofsignificance I will post as an FYI.I hadn't thought of seizures. I will have to takethat into consideration and call his neurologist tosee what she suggests.My son's doctor said he would be more concerned if myson wasn't starting to regain some of the skills helost. I think his theory is that every child cyclesand my son's down cycle went lower than the norm, butnow he is on an upswing (albeit slow.)I will have to look for the book & Sam. Itsounds very interesting.Angie------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -I am a little over-protective but I would contact hisdoctor asap. It sounds like a very noticeable regression and I would want to know ifanything had happened neurologically to cause it. If nothing else they can give you somecomfort and reassurance if it is to be expected.CC------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------i would suggest taking him to a neurologist to ruleout seizures, just to be on the safe side.------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Hello Angie,I am really sorry for you and your family and theheartache of having to watch your son go through these things, my heart iswith you. I do not have personal experience of this but have heardof regression happening even older then four. (This is somethingthat I try not to think about too much otherwise I would be worriedabout it possibly happening to my son. He had a minor regression whenabout 3-4 can't remember exactly when but at the time I didn't realisewhat it was, it was I think completely set off by a severe tummybug, he didn't eat or drink for nearly a week and we almost had totake him to hospital to be put on a drip, my son did regress, hewent back to nappies, he barely talked and I do think that thiscontributed to other behaviours and difficulties also. I just live inhope that my son doesn't catch any bugs that would do the sameagain or even worse as it really seems to knock them and cause moredifficulties. ) I read a book called and Sam, it is written bya lady in the UK who described one of her two autistic boysas having a regression she called it sam's crash, I think he was6. He regressed alot and was it traumatic for her to watch. So sorry Icannot be of any great help, I just wanted to say that I have heardof this happening and at this age and older, hopefully therewill be others on this list that will post who may have some betteradvice...Best wishes to you and your family,.x.------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ----Angie,Did he get his 4-year old vaccinations? I have metmany people who say that they cause huge regressionsdue to mercury (and other addiditves to vaccinations)toxicity (poisoning). Have you had titer tests done tosee what his immunity levels are (and if there istoxicity going on)? Also, you can try detoxificationfor whatever is already toxic in his body. Has he hada full blood work-up? I think that would be a goodplace to start...to see what is toxic in his body thatis causing this...chances are his levels are high fora number of things. I caught my daughter just in timebefore her 4 year old shots and found that her titertests showed 4-5 times the immunity level for all butone of the nine viruses they were planning onvaccinating her for. Doing that would have causedunbelievable damage to her. Most people say that thesymptoms worsen over night after the shots...Elissa------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Angie,I have not had this experience but reading your postmade me wonder if anything besides the tonsils is different? have youchanged his diet in any way or is he under stress (family issuesor something?)I read something cant remember if it was here or onanother board about a small study of like 22 kids whose ADDbehaviors went away after having tonsils removed so that is interestingand you should know they may affect behavior.lastly if you did not change his diet have you triedthe GF/CF diet with him? we are CF but it does not effect behaviorbut both my boys tummies hurt and they get loose stoles, gas, andstuff. Its something to think about, if he is casein intolerant alarge dose of dairy could cause loss of control?hthGreta------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Searchhttp://search. / search?fr= oni_on_mail & p=graduation+ gifts & cs= bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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