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I'm of no help but I imagine that there have to be thoughts behind it

- maybe try ERPing it??? does she know of OCD or Brain tricks etc at

all yet??? maybe explain it simply and then whatever name she gives it

- just say I know you love me but that's just a brain trick making you

say it so much -why don't we find something else to say or do right

now -so she becomes aware and hopefully easily starts to say it

less??? - just thoughts

good luck

eileen

does she need you to respond?? - if so I say " I know that's OCD asking

so I can't answer "

Quoting Jill Schreibman <jillschreibman@...>:

> Although I don't post too often, I read the board everyday and

> appreciate everyone's candor and wisdom.

>

> I know this topic has been covered in the past but it didn't

> really apply here until now so I don't remember what's been written.

> Is it possible to have compulsive behavior without obsessive

> thoughts? My daughter seems to. She's only 4 3/4 so I don't know

> for sure what she's thinking but as far as I can tell, her thoughts

> are not related to her actions. From the time she was 1 until about

> 4 1/2 she would rock up and down on her foot. The behavior wasn't

> related to anything discernible i.e. stress or fear. She is not on

> the autistic spectrum so it wasn't related to any spectrum disorder.

> It was just something she compulsively did and finally about 3 or

> 4 months ago, she stopped. But now her compulsion is constantly

> saying " I love Mama " over and over again. Without exaggeration, she

> says it at least 250 times a day. When she's anxious or when I do

> something that makes her very happy, she says it even more, but she

> pretty much says it all day randomly throughout the

> day. When she's busy and distracted or when she's not with me-

> like at school, she doesn't say it.

> I'm not sure if she's feeling insecure about something with me and

> there's something unconscious at play or if this is just the way

> her compulsion is manifesting at the current time. I'm grateful

> that she's not saying " I hate Mama " but it's so extreme that when

> we're in public and she says it 20 times in a row, it's not sweet.

> Any thoughts?

> Happy New Year to everyone.

> Jill

>

> __________________________________________________

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Mine does the same thing. My OCDer is 5 and says I love you all the time. My 3

1/2 yo (no OCD dx at this point), does, too. Like you said, when they say it

all the time, it loses its meaning.

Sharon

compulsions without obsessions

Although I don't post too often, I read the board everyday and appreciate

everyone's candor and wisdom.

I know this topic has been covered in the past but it didn't really apply here

until now so I don't remember what's been written. Is it possible to have

compulsive behavior without obsessive thoughts? My daughter seems to. She's only

4 3/4 so I don't know for sure what she's thinking but as far as I can tell, her

thoughts are not related to her actions. From the time she was 1 until about 4

1/2 she would rock up and down on her foot. The behavior wasn't related to

anything discernible i.e. stress or fear. She is not on the autistic spectrum so

it wasn't related to any spectrum disorder. It was just something she

compulsively did and finally about 3 or 4 months ago, she stopped. But now her

compulsion is constantly saying " I love Mama " over and over again. Without

exaggeration, she says it at least 250 times a day. When she's anxious or when I

do something that makes her very happy, she says it even more, but she pretty

much says it all day randomly throughout the

day. When she's busy and distracted or when she's not with me- like at school,

she doesn't say it.

I'm not sure if she's feeling insecure about something with me and there's

something unconscious at play or if this is just the way her compulsion is

manifesting at the current time. I'm grateful that she's not saying " I hate

Mama " but it's so extreme that when we're in public and she says it 20 times in

a row, it's not sweet. Any thoughts?

Happy New Year to everyone.

Jill

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my dd went through this at age 9, constantly saying " I love you " . I

felt awful for really getting tired of hearing it and being annoyed

with it. ERP worked great. She was to try saying it only a limited

# of times and we decreased the # every couple days. She finally

got the point of saying it only the first thing in the am and at

bedtime.

>

> Although I don't post too often, I read the board everyday and

appreciate everyone's candor and wisdom.

>

> I know this topic has been covered in the past but it didn't

really apply here until now so I don't remember what's been

written. Is it possible to have compulsive behavior without

obsessive thoughts? My daughter seems to. She's only 4 3/4 so I

don't know for sure what she's thinking but as far as I can tell,

her thoughts are not related to her actions. From the time she was

1 until about 4 1/2 she would rock up and down on her foot. The

behavior wasn't related to anything discernible i.e. stress or

fear. She is not on the autistic spectrum so it wasn't related to

any spectrum disorder. It was just something she compulsively did

and finally about 3 or 4 months ago, she stopped. But now her

compulsion is constantly saying " I love Mama " over and over again.

Without exaggeration, she says it at least 250 times a day. When

she's anxious or when I do something that makes her very happy, she

says it even more, but she pretty much says it all day randomly

throughout the

> day. When she's busy and distracted or when she's not with me-

like at school, she doesn't say it.

> I'm not sure if she's feeling insecure about something with me

and there's something unconscious at play or if this is just the way

her compulsion is manifesting at the current time. I'm grateful

that she's not saying " I hate Mama " but it's so extreme that when

we're in public and she says it 20 times in a row, it's not sweet.

Any thoughts?

> Happy New Year to everyone.

> Jill

>

> __________________________________________________

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My son used to compulsively ask questions. There was question after question

after question. We made up tickets - laminated them and he got 10 a day. He

had to turn one in for each question he asked so we told him to carefully decide

when he needed to ask one. Within a couple of days, he was able to stay within

a normal range.

Good luck.

" autumn71A@... " <autumn71A@...> wrote:

I'm of no help but I imagine that there have to be thoughts behind it

- maybe try ERPing it??? does she know of OCD or Brain tricks etc at

all yet??? maybe explain it simply and then whatever name she gives it

- just say I know you love me but that's just a brain trick making you

say it so much -why don't we find something else to say or do right

now -so she becomes aware and hopefully easily starts to say it

less??? - just thoughts

good luck

eileen

does she need you to respond?? - if so I say " I know that's OCD asking

so I can't answer "

Quoting Jill Schreibman <jillschreibman@...>:

> Although I don't post too often, I read the board everyday and

> appreciate everyone's candor and wisdom.

>

> I know this topic has been covered in the past but it didn't

> really apply here until now so I don't remember what's been written.

> Is it possible to have compulsive behavior without obsessive

> thoughts? My daughter seems to. She's only 4 3/4 so I don't know

> for sure what she's thinking but as far as I can tell, her thoughts

> are not related to her actions. From the time she was 1 until about

> 4 1/2 she would rock up and down on her foot. The behavior wasn't

> related to anything discernible i.e. stress or fear. She is not on

> the autistic spectrum so it wasn't related to any spectrum disorder.

> It was just something she compulsively did and finally about 3 or

> 4 months ago, she stopped. But now her compulsion is constantly

> saying " I love Mama " over and over again. Without exaggeration, she

> says it at least 250 times a day. When she's anxious or when I do

> something that makes her very happy, she says it even more, but she

> pretty much says it all day randomly throughout the

> day. When she's busy and distracted or when she's not with me-

> like at school, she doesn't say it.

> I'm not sure if she's feeling insecure about something with me and

> there's something unconscious at play or if this is just the way

> her compulsion is manifesting at the current time. I'm grateful

> that she's not saying " I hate Mama " but it's so extreme that when

> we're in public and she says it 20 times in a row, it's not sweet.

> Any thoughts?

> Happy New Year to everyone.

> Jill

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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From what I've read, young children often have the compulsions show

up first before the obsessions develop later. At least she's saying

something positive! LOL! : )

>

> Although I don't post too often, I read the board everyday and

appreciate everyone's candor and wisdom.

>

> I know this topic has been covered in the past but it didn't

really apply here until now so I don't remember what's been

written. Is it possible to have compulsive behavior without

obsessive thoughts? My daughter seems to. She's only 4 3/4 so I

don't know for sure what she's thinking but as far as I can tell,

her thoughts are not related to her actions. From the time she was

1 until about 4 1/2 she would rock up and down on her foot. The

behavior wasn't related to anything discernible i.e. stress or

fear. She is not on the autistic spectrum so it wasn't related to

any spectrum disorder. It was just something she compulsively did

and finally about 3 or 4 months ago, she stopped. But now her

compulsion is constantly saying " I love Mama " over and over again.

Without exaggeration, she says it at least 250 times a day. When

she's anxious or when I do something that makes her very happy, she

says it even more, but she pretty much says it all day randomly

throughout the

> day. When she's busy and distracted or when she's not with me-

like at school, she doesn't say it.

> I'm not sure if she's feeling insecure about something with me

and there's something unconscious at play or if this is just the way

her compulsion is manifesting at the current time. I'm grateful

that she's not saying " I hate Mama " but it's so extreme that when

we're in public and she says it 20 times in a row, it's not sweet.

Any thoughts?

> Happy New Year to everyone.

> Jill

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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