At church, ever have

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Hi Vickie,

I enjoyed your letter, you made me laugh. I don't know why in the world people have to say anything at all, I don't say anything when kids act out, don't think it is any of my business. I think just like you do, kids communicate like KIDS not like grownups! duh! That's what you get when you have kids.

I took three of my grandkids to a thing here yesterday called the Children's Celebration, don't know why as I was sick and wasn't planning to go out at all, but then my granddaughter called and I couldn't resist. She is so cute, is 10 now, Sierra, and her brother is 7, and little Lucas, he is 2 and will be 3 the 27th of this month.

Well Luke is a quirky little guy I have written about before, and at first I think the crowd and noise and everything kind of freaked him out, and he got real fussy, and started running off in every direction. I could hardly keep track of him, but then we found two very large turtles, so big a kid could ride on, and he settled down to pet the turtles, but he was like that off and on all the time we were there, calm and then agitated.

At one time he'd been dancing with his sister like a maniac, trying to get all the attention. A dance school had a display set up and they wanted kids to come up and dance. He was so cute waving his arms and jumping around, but then he got too hot, and had a complete meltdown, so I poured about a cup of water on his head from my water bottle. I don't know what made me think of that, figured it would cool him off, but it just made his scream harder, but I think it did make him feel better even at that.

Then he rode on a train with his wet head, with his sister and brother, that meandered around the park, and when they were done the sister said he was scared and he cried, guess I shouldn't have let him go, as he does get scared at new things, but maybe it was good for him too.

Well then we discovered the river, and I let the kids wade, I used to do that when I was a kid myself, and it was really fun. Lucas really loved throwing rocks into the river, he loves throwing things anyway, although it was tricky keeping people out of his range of fire. I got some good videos and still shots.

I am so tired right now, the day after, am pouring down water since I am still on this confounded antibiotic, it is these great big blue pills and you burp for a couple of hours after you take one, Ceftin, but I think they are clearing my ears out some, doesn't feel like I have an air pump blowing it up anymore, like it is ready to pop, and giving me that awful Vertigo!

Well have to run now and get ready for church, would you believe my hair dryer died this morning, that is what they do, one day they just die, but it is drying o.k. in the air since it is not winter. I'm going to pick up the kids for children's church like we planned to do every Sunday.

Talk to you all later, pray you all have a nice day today,

Carolyn in nice and cool Oregon at the moment.....feels real good!

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yes they are all typical ,most cannot see or refuse to see all the sides to the story.yes we all make judgements on people whether it be about child rearing or housekeeping so on and so forth.I was in the store last summer and my lil girl who wass 3 and nt she was acting up cuz she was tired and she was told no on getting something she wanted .well of course she is flipping and i am trying to get to the front of the store one lady which made me feel better said it will get better when leaving the store another one said hang in there we all had children too.but the one that offended me is this woman asked me if she (my lil girl ) was okay that she gets worried when she sees kids taking fits cuz her son has autism.i looked at her and said she is just mad cuz she aint getting what she wants and she has 2 brothers with autism .lots of the times you get the 2 reactions the why dont she control her child and the other is uh oh a kid is throwing a tantrum get the dr & meds ad/hd alert etc...... it makes me wonder did people forget TERRIBLE TWOS .i mean kids throw fits i think if a child doesnt throw a fit there is something wrong. tantrums are how kids express thier extreme dissappointment in not getting thier way.now when a kid with asd or other disorders most do not know how to show thier dislike in a good way(gee i never have seen a kid go to thier parent saying "Dear mom I would really like to partake of that sugary confection that is behind that glass window" mother says"sorry but you cannot have one" child"Okay mom I accept that decision and I thank you for your prompt responce"hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yea right .who are you and what did you do with my child lol

and you are right i like to listen to peoples stories if something strikes me as something i can help with or somethign that stands out to me to respond to even though i do not have an idea. i can see most everybodies side may nt agree with them but i can see them .but i will nto treat them like crap and put them down for thier take on soemthing .i am sorry i forget what we were talking about i am so up passed me bedtime been having trouble sleeping again .

well i will shut my mouth for now sorry if i didnt make any kind of cohierant responce

vickie

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LOVE IT!sunrose101@... wrote: Dear Jen, I too encourage mothers who are in that spot. I think you'll like this: when my son was four, we took the est training and told all the kids about running acts.

Being only four, he really got it. So we'd be out in a store, and there'd be this screaming kid, and Duke would walk over to him/her and say: "Get off your act." The kid would invariably stop, generally smile, and usually get off it. It was really fun, and although the parent usually didn't even know what happened, at least their embarrassment was over! Love, Francine In a message dated 7/11/2007 11:43:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, diegowench writes: hehehe - Vickie - I feel ya girl!!!! I think that Men should be seen and not heard, but that is a different subject for a different day. I have had way too many people pass judgement on me because of my children's behavior. Now - I will say that everyone is guilty of this (even me) it is ingrained in us. HOWEVER, I cannot count how many times I have walked by the Mom of a tantrumming child, put my hand on her shoulder and said - "Hang in there - we have all been there". There is nothing in this world that feels

better is that grateful smile. I wish there were more people willing to put "their money where their mouths are" - as far as "understanding" and "not passing judgement". I have had days where anything that anyone says or does sets me off - but other times I can feel the pain of those around me. While I don't consider myself "typical" I think that these are typical feelings and reactions from all of us. I don't think any group or organization should be judged based on one person, nor do I think that any family should be judged on one moment. There are some generalities that I do adhere to - as everyone else does - because we (people) do this!!!! This is human nature. What I object to is tenets and laws and rules that objectify people. I always want to hear someone's side - let people talk - let me know your experience!~!! Sorry to ramble on and on - its late and I should be packing and getting ready but hubby is coming home!!!! YEAH - that means that I can sit back and relax for a day. Jenvickie <blackfoot124 > wrote: dont worry i didnt take offence i just wanted you to know dont give up on finding the right one for you ..that no matter where you go i am sure your going to find one asshole there always seems to be that one lol now if only we can get that one in everything to form thier own

one... man to be a fly on the wall of that church lol it is crazy people where you go see children and judge the child and the parent as bad and not worthy if the child acts up .hell i have seen adults behave worse than children .it is still a flash back to the day and age that chilren should be seen and not heard but it seems now it is they should neither be seen or heard unless they are little stepford children i swear that is what the schools and the places all want little stepford children . so we can all show off how wonderful we all are in our perfect little dream world . sorry i

am in a bit of a mood today MEN the other thing that drives woman nuts be sides people picking on thier kids Re: Re: At church, ever have No, the issue is that by stating my experience many people seem to believe that I am attacking, simply stating what happened, and how it happened is not a personal or even an impersonal attack - it just is. we all have to choose the types of experiences that we put before ourselves

and our children, this is one that has definitely not worked for us. End of story - no big deal. Jeff and Jodi <jjkgardenier@ sbcglobal. net> wrote: I just read this Jen and am glad to hear that you have found a group that is accomidating and loving. That is wonderful! I have never personally met a Jew, one of God's chosen people, I would enjoy the privledge. I have heard of bad Baptist churches but am blessed to be a part of a very loving and accomodating Baptist church. Of course there are always a few bad apples in a family and we do have a few. I hope I haven't ruined any chances of us being friends. I feel that I have put you on the defensive and that wasn't my intention. JodiI have found the Jewish faith to be much more accomodating and loving and choose to surround myself with positive people like this.> > Life may not be the party we

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