Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 In all my reading about KTs I wish there were some visuals! What defines a 'baby' vs a mushroom? Are babies the thin floating circles you see in some commercial products? If not, what are they? What connects the baby to the mother that babies have to be 'torn' from the mushroom? What are the thin stringy pieces you see in some commercial bottled products. To me, they look just like ACV mother strands. What's an eel vs an ooglie? If I could, I'd take a picture of my last KT experiment, the tea I used is too cloudy to see it w/o a bright flashlight! SMc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 In message <gsaot6+4e3seGroups> you wrote: > In all my reading about KTs I wish there were some visuals! > Hiya! Will those do? :-) http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html > What defines a 'baby' vs a mushroom? Both terms are incorrect and IMO awful! 'Baby', because I've never fed milk to my scobies (although you could put one on the breast if you have a soreness there;-) Of course, I'm referring to a baby of the mammalian kind! :-) 'Mushroom', because it just aint a mushroom biologically, but a S ymbiotic C ulture O f B acteria & Y easts. > Are babies the thin floating circles you see in some commercial products? Scobys (solid bit of the culture which the bacteria build during the brewing process) can be any shape - determined by the shape of your brewing container. Since most of the apertures are roundish, so will the scobys be. SOme of my cultures are octagonal as they 'spring' from a container of that shape. > What connects the baby to the mother that babies have to be 'torn' from > the mushroom? > Again, as the term 'baby' is silly, so is the term 'mother'. There are only older and newer Kombucha cultures. As the new scoby forms on top of the liquid it can either form by itself if the original culture has sunk lower than the surface. Or it can be all or partially attached to the older culture, if it was touching the surface. If the 2 cultures hang together, I always use them together, It is better to have 2 or more scobys than just one. It increases the bacterial presence in the brew which helps develop a good flavour. > What are the thin stringy pieces you see in some commercial bottled > products. To me, they look just like ACV mother strands. The stringy bits you mention there are typical in Kombucha at all stages of brewing : yeasty bits > What's an eel vs an ooglie? An eel swims in a river. It is a fish. An oogly: see above. They have nothing in common. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar_eels These are very rare in Kombucha. You can only get them by using infected unpasteurised cider vinegar in which they can occur. If you have to use vinegar for boosting the acidity in a new brew, do use distilled vinegar. > If I could, I'd take a picture of my last KT experiment, the tea I used is > too cloudy to see it w/o a bright flashlight! Well, if you look at my scoby experiment, and read my notes that go with it, you should be more enlightened. With greetings and blessings for your new day, Margret:) UK -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com creation.com " As a former fetus I am opposed to abortion. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 In message <gsaot6+4e3seGroups> you wrote: > In all my reading about KTs I wish there were some visuals! > Hiya! Will those do? :-) http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html > What defines a 'baby' vs a mushroom? Both terms are incorrect and IMO awful! 'Baby', because I've never fed milk to my scobies (although you could put one on the breast if you have a soreness there;-) Of course, I'm referring to a baby of the mammalian kind! :-) 'Mushroom', because it just aint a mushroom biologically, but a S ymbiotic C ulture O f B acteria & Y easts. > Are babies the thin floating circles you see in some commercial products? Scobys (solid bit of the culture which the bacteria build during the brewing process) can be any shape - determined by the shape of your brewing container. Since most of the apertures are roundish, so will the scobys be. SOme of my cultures are octagonal as they 'spring' from a container of that shape. > What connects the baby to the mother that babies have to be 'torn' from > the mushroom? > Again, as the term 'baby' is silly, so is the term 'mother'. There are only older and newer Kombucha cultures. As the new scoby forms on top of the liquid it can either form by itself if the original culture has sunk lower than the surface. Or it can be all or partially attached to the older culture, if it was touching the surface. If the 2 cultures hang together, I always use them together, It is better to have 2 or more scobys than just one. It increases the bacterial presence in the brew which helps develop a good flavour. > What are the thin stringy pieces you see in some commercial bottled > products. To me, they look just like ACV mother strands. The stringy bits you mention there are typical in Kombucha at all stages of brewing : yeasty bits > What's an eel vs an ooglie? An eel swims in a river. It is a fish. An oogly: see above. They have nothing in common. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar_eels These are very rare in Kombucha. You can only get them by using infected unpasteurised cider vinegar in which they can occur. If you have to use vinegar for boosting the acidity in a new brew, do use distilled vinegar. > If I could, I'd take a picture of my last KT experiment, the tea I used is > too cloudy to see it w/o a bright flashlight! Well, if you look at my scoby experiment, and read my notes that go with it, you should be more enlightened. With greetings and blessings for your new day, Margret:) UK -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com creation.com " As a former fetus I am opposed to abortion. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Very we'll written. I agree with everything xcept 'u can only get vinegar eels by using unpasteurized ACV'. I am fighting an infestation and never used ACV. I used th same family of scobys I had been using for months with no trouble, so the scoby wasn't nfected from the start. So, whether they have airborne cells (as I read online) or hitch a ride on fruit flies (as was suggested here by someone) or they travel by some other means, they do sometimes appear spontaneously in KT. I have filtered my infectd brew an bottled it as by most accounts, they are not harmful to humans, just to the scoby. I have new scobys an starter on the way (thanks to greg and lisa) and am going to start my new brew at my ofc, just n case those beasties are floating around my house. And after filtering thru a coffee filter and cloth, there were still a few visible eels, so those suckers are tiny! I did wash a couple of my best scobys and started a new batch with them and a bottle of plain GTs just to see if u can savage nething from an nfcted brew. I will post some pics an other info I found when I am at a computer. Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: What do you call it and how do you do it? In message <gsaot6+4e3seGroups> you wrote: > In all my reading about KTs I wish there were some visuals! > Hiya! Will those do? :-) http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html > What defines a 'baby' vs a mushroom? Both terms are incorrect and IMO awful! 'Baby', because I've never fed milk to my scobies (although you could put one on the breast if you have a soreness there;-) Of course, I'm referring to a baby of the mammalian kind! :-) 'Mushroom', because it just aint a mushroom biologically, but a S ymbiotic C ulture O f B acteria & Y easts. > Are babies the thin floating circles you see in some commercial products? Scobys (solid bit of the culture which the bacteria build during the brewing process) can be any shape - determined by the shape of your brewing container. Since most of the apertures are roundish, so will the scobys be. SOme of my cultures are octagonal as they 'spring' from a container of that shape. > What connects the baby to the mother that babies have to be 'torn' from > the mushroom? > Again, as the term 'baby' is silly, so is the term 'mother'. There are only older and newer Kombucha cultures. As the new scoby forms on top of the liquid it can either form by itself if the original culture has sunk lower than the surface. Or it can be all or partially attached to the older culture, if it was touching the surface. If the 2 cultures hang together, I always use them together, It is better to have 2 or more scobys than just one. It increases the bacterial presence in the brew which helps develop a good flavour. > What are the thin stringy pieces you see in some commercial bottled > products. To me, they look just like ACV mother strands. The stringy bits you mention there are typical in Kombucha at all stages of brewing : yeasty bits > What's an eel vs an ooglie? An eel swims in a river. It is a fish. An oogly: see above. They have nothing in common. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar_eels These are very rare in Kombucha. You can only get them by using infected unpasteurised cider vinegar in which they can occur. If you have to use vinegar for boosting the acidity in a new brew, do use distilled vinegar. > If I could, I'd take a picture of my last KT experiment, the tea I used is > too cloudy to see it w/o a bright flashlight! Well, if you look at my scoby experiment, and read my notes that go with it, you should be more enlightened. With greetings and blessings for your new day, Margret:) UK -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com creation.com " As a former fetus I am opposed to abortion. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Very we'll written. I agree with everything xcept 'u can only get vinegar eels by using unpasteurized ACV'. I am fighting an infestation and never used ACV. I used th same family of scobys I had been using for months with no trouble, so the scoby wasn't nfected from the start. So, whether they have airborne cells (as I read online) or hitch a ride on fruit flies (as was suggested here by someone) or they travel by some other means, they do sometimes appear spontaneously in KT. I have filtered my infectd brew an bottled it as by most accounts, they are not harmful to humans, just to the scoby. I have new scobys an starter on the way (thanks to greg and lisa) and am going to start my new brew at my ofc, just n case those beasties are floating around my house. And after filtering thru a coffee filter and cloth, there were still a few visible eels, so those suckers are tiny! I did wash a couple of my best scobys and started a new batch with them and a bottle of plain GTs just to see if u can savage nething from an nfcted brew. I will post some pics an other info I found when I am at a computer. Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: What do you call it and how do you do it? In message <gsaot6+4e3seGroups> you wrote: > In all my reading about KTs I wish there were some visuals! > Hiya! Will those do? :-) http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html > What defines a 'baby' vs a mushroom? Both terms are incorrect and IMO awful! 'Baby', because I've never fed milk to my scobies (although you could put one on the breast if you have a soreness there;-) Of course, I'm referring to a baby of the mammalian kind! :-) 'Mushroom', because it just aint a mushroom biologically, but a S ymbiotic C ulture O f B acteria & Y easts. > Are babies the thin floating circles you see in some commercial products? Scobys (solid bit of the culture which the bacteria build during the brewing process) can be any shape - determined by the shape of your brewing container. Since most of the apertures are roundish, so will the scobys be. SOme of my cultures are octagonal as they 'spring' from a container of that shape. > What connects the baby to the mother that babies have to be 'torn' from > the mushroom? > Again, as the term 'baby' is silly, so is the term 'mother'. There are only older and newer Kombucha cultures. As the new scoby forms on top of the liquid it can either form by itself if the original culture has sunk lower than the surface. Or it can be all or partially attached to the older culture, if it was touching the surface. If the 2 cultures hang together, I always use them together, It is better to have 2 or more scobys than just one. It increases the bacterial presence in the brew which helps develop a good flavour. > What are the thin stringy pieces you see in some commercial bottled > products. To me, they look just like ACV mother strands. The stringy bits you mention there are typical in Kombucha at all stages of brewing : yeasty bits > What's an eel vs an ooglie? An eel swims in a river. It is a fish. An oogly: see above. They have nothing in common. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar_eels These are very rare in Kombucha. You can only get them by using infected unpasteurised cider vinegar in which they can occur. If you have to use vinegar for boosting the acidity in a new brew, do use distilled vinegar. > If I could, I'd take a picture of my last KT experiment, the tea I used is > too cloudy to see it w/o a bright flashlight! Well, if you look at my scoby experiment, and read my notes that go with it, you should be more enlightened. With greetings and blessings for your new day, Margret:) UK -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com creation.com " As a former fetus I am opposed to abortion. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Margaret, you have a wicked sense of humor. I knew right away your were from the UK! LOVE your website. Thanks for the link! It should be the first thing Google finds on a Kombucha search. It answers so many questions! Very VERY interesting that you can make KT from either a SCOBY or from already brewed KT! The last comment, about being undisturbed, is very interesting! I do pick mine up and gently check them. I may turn the jar a bit, I may slide a straw down to test the brew. I've not noticed new SCOBY growing because of my activities. It's all just perking along, slowly as we are having a cool spring. Tomorrow the 90s are expected, and it will be interesting to see what happens! Thanks again~ SMc > > > In all my reading about KTs I wish there were some visuals! > > > Hiya! > Will those do? :-) > > http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html > > > What defines a 'baby' vs a mushroom? > > Both terms are incorrect and IMO awful! > > 'Baby', because I've never fed milk to my scobies (although you could > put one on the breast if you have a soreness there;-) Of course, I'm > referring to a baby of the mammalian kind! :-) > > 'Mushroom', because it just aint a mushroom biologically, but a > S ymbiotic C ulture O f B acteria & Y easts. > > > Are babies the thin floating circles you see in some commercial products? > > Scobys (solid bit of the culture which the bacteria build during the > brewing process) can be any shape - determined by the shape of your > brewing container. Since most of the apertures are roundish, so will the > scobys be. SOme of my cultures are octagonal as they 'spring' from a > container of that shape. > > > What connects the baby to the mother that babies have to be 'torn' from > > the mushroom? > > > Again, as the term 'baby' is silly, so is the term 'mother'. There are > only older and newer Kombucha cultures. > As the new scoby forms on top of the liquid it can either form by itself > if the original culture has sunk lower than the surface. > Or it can be all or partially attached to the older culture, if it was > touching the surface. > > If the 2 cultures hang together, I always use them together, It is better > to have 2 or more scobys than just one. It increases the bacterial presence > in the brew which helps develop a good flavour. > > > What are the thin stringy pieces you see in some commercial bottled > > products. To me, they look just like ACV mother strands. > > The stringy bits you mention there are typical in Kombucha at all stages > of brewing : yeasty bits > > What's an eel vs an ooglie? > An eel swims in a river. It is a fish. > An oogly: see above. > They have nothing in common. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar_eels > > These are very rare in Kombucha. You can only get them by using > infected unpasteurised cider vinegar in which they can occur. > If you have to use vinegar for boosting the acidity in a new brew, > do use distilled vinegar. > > > If I could, I'd take a picture of my last KT experiment, the tea I used is > > too cloudy to see it w/o a bright flashlight! > > Well, if you look at my scoby experiment, and read my notes that go with it, > you should be more enlightened. > > > With greetings and blessings for your new day, > > Margret:) UK > > > > -- > +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ > <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< > http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com > creation.com > > " As a former fetus I am opposed to abortion. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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