RE: re: (unknown) (OT-kefir) Now weight loss with kt

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I also am a believer in good for you fats, the world has been so trained to

think that everything should be low fat, have you ever looked at the ingredients

of low fat half-n-half? One of the ingredients is sugar to make up for the awful

taste, and then you gain weight because of the sugar!!! One thing to think

about though, is when it comes to meats and fat, I only buy those meats that the

animals have not been given hormones and antibiotics, as THAT is what makes you

gain weight from meat with fat in it. When I buy my beef steaks or roasts, (

without the hormones and antibiotics administered to the animal) I always buy

those with plenty of fat in them so that the cheaper cuts of meat are nice and

tender, and the fat is what is known to give the good flavor. When we Put it on

our plates, that's when we trim the excess fat off of it. Having said this

about low fat food, and weight loss, I have to say though, that drinking kt has

been one of the best success stories I have ever been able to tell anyone in

helping with the loss of weight. When you drop the weight just by drinking a

fantastic tasting drink, you CAN'T beat that. I have read though, that for

extra help with weight loss with kt, you should brew it a little more towards

the vinegary side, and I don't know if it is true or not, but some recommend the

use of green tea rather than black if using for weight loss. Perhaps someone

else knows something about this. And the other thing that is recommended is to

drink it before meals when using it to lose weight, this may be helpful, but I

have to say that I did lose 2 pant sizes with kt before I even knew about this,

so perhaps I would have lost it faster if I had done that, although I did lose

it quite quickly without that information. Jeani

Excellent book Rodrick, and I can personally attest to the fact that it works

!!!zoeRodrick wrote>> Also, if I were you, I wouldn't be so afraid of fat. At

least not> saturated fat that is in milk and meat and other animal products.>

Trans fat, of course, is very bad, along with the hydrogenated oils.> That is

just about the number one problem with all these diets in> America. Everything

is low fat. It is true that if you eat no fat> and just less calories all around

you will not get fat. The problem> is that the body craves saturated fat or

animal fat. So when you eat> low fat you are always hungry and splurging and

can't stick to the> diet. When you eat saturated fat then the body is satisfied

and> doesn't even crave more food. You can lose weight and not even> hardly be

hungry. A great book on this is: Eat Fat, Lose Fat by Dr. Enig.> Rodrick

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Wheras I agree that most things need either fat or sugar to flavour, i've

found completely going off meat did wonders for my good and bad fat

level...to the point i was told i needed to start eating more (as it hit the

unhealthy limit of being too low in the blood, both of 'em), despite

regularly cooking in olive oil! (i'm a vegetarian) .

So if its a health concern, you might want to look into veggie meals for a

day or two a week (i'm not trying to convert you)

Caitilin

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:01 AM, Jeani <countryrose_ak@...>

wrote:

>

> I also am a believer in good for you fats, the world has been so trained to

> think that everything should be low fat, have you ever looked at the

> ingredients of low fat half-n-half? One of the ingredients is sugar to make

> up for the awful taste, and then you gain weight because of the sugar!!! One

> thing to think about though, is when it comes to meats and fat, I only buy

> those meats that the animals have not been given hormones and antibiotics,

> as THAT is what makes you gain weight from meat with fat in it. When I buy

> my beef steaks or roasts, ( without the hormones and antibiotics

> administered to the animal) I always buy those with plenty of fat in them so

> that the cheaper cuts of meat are nice and tender, and the fat is what is

> known to give the good flavor. When we Put it on our plates, that's when we

> trim the excess fat off of it. Having said this about low fat food, and

> weight loss, I have to say though, that drinking kt has been one of the best

> success stories I have ever been able to tell anyone in helping with the

> loss of weight. When you drop the weight just by drinking a fantastic

> tasting drink, you CAN'T beat that. I have read though, that for extra help

> with weight loss with kt, you should brew it a little more towards the

> vinegary side, and I don't know if it is true or not, but some recommend the

> use of green tea rather than black if using for weight loss. Perhaps someone

> else knows something about this. And the other thing that is recommended is

> to drink it before meals when using it to lose weight, this may be helpful,

> but I have to say that I did lose 2 pant sizes with kt before I even knew

> about this, so perhaps I would have lost it faster if I had done that,

> although I did lose it quite quickly without that information. Jeani

>

> Excellent book Rodrick, and I can personally attest to the fact that it

> works !!!zoeRodrick wrote>> Also, if I were you, I wouldn't be so afraid of

> fat. At least not> saturated fat that is in milk and meat and other animal

> products.> Trans fat, of course, is very bad, along with the hydrogenated

> oils.> That is just about the number one problem with all these diets in>

> America. Everything is low fat. It is true that if you eat no fat> and just

> less calories all around you will not get fat. The problem> is that the body

> craves saturated fat or animal fat. So when you eat> low fat you are always

> hungry and splurging and can't stick to the> diet. When you eat saturated

> fat then the body is satisfied and> doesn't even crave more food. You can

> lose weight and not even> hardly be hungry. A great book on this is: Eat

> Fat, Lose Fat by Dr. Enig.> Rodrick

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Not trying to convert you either Caitlin, lol! But I have found that some

people do better on a vegetarian diet, others lean towards vegetarian, and do

better, and then there are those that do MUCH better physically with meat in

their diet, such as myself, and although I don't worry overly with cholesterol

levels, my cholesterol levels have gone lower with eating more meats, I think

that everybody's body is different, as I know my body personally couldn't handle

a vegetarian diet. It may have to do with the blood type, as I have read the

Blood Type diet, and I have to say, I did find that I felt the best on the diet

for my blood type (blood type O) with plenty of meats. I don't crave sweets and

breads, I crave protein. Also, I used to use olive oil to cook in until I read

that when you cook with it, it turns into trans fatty acids, and so now I cook

with virgin Coconut oil, as it has a much higher heat allowance and isn't so

readily converted to the bad fats. I still use olive oil for salads and such,

(try a dressing with olive oil and kt, now that's somethin' good!!!) And so

healthy for you, not only do you have the good for you fats from the olive oil

when not heated, you also have the wonderful benefits of kt in your salad, and

the good for you fats and kt are both helping with weight loss. Jeani, a

confirmed meat eater for my good health!!!

Wheras I agree that most things need either fat or sugar to flavour, i'vefound

completely going off meat did wonders for my good and bad fatlevel...to the

point i was told i needed to start eating more (as it hit theunhealthy limit of

being too low in the blood, both of 'em), despiteregularly cooking in olive oil!

(i'm a vegetarian) .So if its a health concern, you might want to look into

veggie meals for aday or two a week (i'm not trying to convert you)CaitilinOn

Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:01 AM, Jeani <countryrose_ak@...>wrote:>>

I also am a believer in good for you fats, the world has been so trained to>

think that everything should be low fat, have you ever looked at the>

ingredients of low fat half-n-half? One of the ingredients is sugar to make> up

for the awful taste, and then you gain weight because of the sugar!!! One> thing

to think about though, is when it comes to meats and fat, I only buy> those

meats that the animals have not been given hormones and antibiotics,> as THAT is

what makes you gain weight from meat with fat in it. When I buy> my beef steaks

or roasts, ( without the hormones and antibiotics> administered to the animal) I

always buy those with plenty of fat in them so> that the cheaper cuts of meat

are nice and tender, and the fat is what is> known to give the good flavor. When

we Put it on our plates, that's when we> trim the excess fat off of it. Having

said this about low fat food, and> weight loss, I have to say though, that

drinking kt has been one of the best> success stories I have ever been able to

tell anyone in helping with the> loss of weight. When you drop the weight just

by drinking a fantastic> tasting drink, you CAN'T beat that. I have read though,

that for extra help> with weight loss with kt, you should brew it a little more

towards the> vinegary side, and I don't know if it is true or not, but some

recommend the> use of green tea rather than black if using for weight loss.

Perhaps someone> else knows something about this. And the other thing that is

recommended is> to drink it before meals when using it to lose weight, this may

be helpful,> but I have to say that I did lose 2 pant sizes with kt before I

even knew> about this, so perhaps I would have lost it faster if I had done

that,> although I did lose it quite quickly without that information. Jeani>>

Excellent book Rodrick, and I can personally attest to the fact that it> works

!!!zoe That is just about the number one problem with all these diets in>>

America. Everything is low fat. It is true that if you eat no fat> and just>

less calories all around you will not get fat. The problem> is that the body>

craves saturated fat or animal fat. So when you eat> low fat you are always>

hungry and splurging and can't stick to the> diet. When you eat saturated> fat

then the body is satisfied and> doesn't even crave more food. You can> lose

weight and not even> hardly be hungry. A great book on this is: Eat> Fat, Lose

Fat by Dr. Enig.> Rodrick>>

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Oh absolutely, everyone's body is different! I was just amazed to see the

results, so if it was a concern i thought it was worth passing on. I've

found as a rule its the poeple who benefit from vitamin B who do well with

meat, so i sometimes wonder if its just my limited sample, or if there

really is a link, but as vit B is in kombucha too, i wonder, if you get my

drift.

Hm. interesting yours has gone lower, what do you eat, chicken? pork?

everything?

I'll def take the point about coconut oil and give that a try next time i'm

cooking instead - hey, anyting to keep the trans fats away! (and i can use

the olive for soap too ;-) )

I'm A+ if it helps any, so that may be wehre the difference lies, though

i've never heard of that diet? I generally do a low GI thing as I have PCOS

and it seems to make me feel better.

*Grins* its nice to be able to disagree in a respecting way! Hmm. I wonder

what a kombucha and (pick your meat or beans) caserole a la a guiness

caserole would taste like?

Cheers

Caitilin

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Jeani <countryrose_ak@...>

wrote:

>

> Not trying to convert you either Caitlin, lol! But I have found that some

> people do better on a vegetarian diet, others lean towards vegetarian, and

> do better, and then there are those that do MUCH better physically with meat

> in their diet, such as myself, and although I don't worry overly with

> cholesterol levels, my cholesterol levels have gone lower with eating more

> meats, I think that everybody's body is different, as I know my body

> personally couldn't handle a vegetarian diet. It may have to do with the

> blood type, as I have read the Blood Type diet, and I have to say, I did

> find that I felt the best on the diet for my blood type (blood type O) with

> plenty of meats. I don't crave sweets and breads, I crave protein. Also, I

> used to use olive oil to cook in until I read that when you cook with it, it

> turns into trans fatty acids, and so now I cook with virgin Coconut oil, as

> it has a much higher heat allowance and isn't so readily converted to the

> bad fats. I still use olive oil for salads and such, (try a dressing with

> olive oil and kt, now that's somethin' good!!!) And so healthy for you, not

> only do you have the good for you fats from the olive oil when not heated,

> you also have the wonderful benefits of kt in your salad, and the good for

> you fats and kt are both helping with weight loss. Jeani, a confirmed meat

> eater for my good health!!!

>

> Wheras I agree that most things need either fat or sugar to flavour,

> i'vefound completely going off meat did wonders for my good and bad

> fatlevel...to the point i was told i needed to start eating more (as it hit

> theunhealthy limit of being too low in the blood, both of 'em),

> despiteregularly cooking in olive oil! (i'm a vegetarian) .So if its a

> health concern, you might want to look into veggie meals for aday or two a

> week (i'm not trying to convert you)CaitilinOn Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:01 AM,

> Jeani <countryrose_ak@...

<countryrose_ak%40hotmail.com>>wrote:>>

> I also am a believer in good for you fats, the world has been so trained to>

> think that everything should be low fat, have you ever looked at the>

> ingredients of low fat half-n-half? One of the ingredients is sugar to make>

> up for the awful taste, and then you gain weight because of the sugar!!!

> One> thing to think about though, is when it comes to meats and fat, I only

> buy> those meats that the animals have not been given hormones and

> antibiotics,> as THAT is what makes you gain weight from meat with fat in

> it. When I buy> my beef steaks or roasts, ( without the hormones and

> antibiotics> administered to the animal) I always buy those with plenty of

> fat in them so> that the cheaper cuts of meat are nice and tender, and the

> fat is what is> known to give the good flavor. When we Put it on our plates,

> that's when we> trim the excess fat off of it. Having said this about low

> fat food, and> weight loss, I have to say though, that drinking kt has been

> one of the best> success stories I have ever been able to tell anyone in

> helping with the> loss of weight. When you drop the weight just by drinking

> a fantastic> tasting drink, you CAN'T beat that. I have read though, that

> for extra help> with weight loss with kt, you should brew it a little more

> towards the> vinegary side, and I don't know if it is true or not, but some

> recommend the> use of green tea rather than black if using for weight loss.

> Perhaps someone> else knows something about this. And the other thing that

> is recommended is> to drink it before meals when using it to lose weight,

> this may be helpful,> but I have to say that I did lose 2 pant sizes with kt

> before I even knew> about this, so perhaps I would have lost it faster if I

> had done that,> although I did lose it quite quickly without that

> information. Jeani>> Excellent book Rodrick, and I can personally attest to

> the fact that it> works !!!zoe That is just about the number one problem

> with all these diets in>> America. Everything is low fat. It is true that if

> you eat no fat> and just> less calories all around you will not get fat. The

> problem> is that the body> craves saturated fat or animal fat. So when you

> eat> low fat you are always> hungry and splurging and can't stick to the>

> diet. When you eat saturated> fat then the body is satisfied and> doesn't

> even crave more food. You can> lose weight and not even> hardly be hungry. A

> great book on this is: Eat> Fat, Lose Fat by Dr. Enig.> Rodrick>>

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The book says that people with blood type A do better with a vegetarian diet.

My husband is A negative, and he can and wants to eat homemade granola with

kefir for breakfast (although I try to give him a variety for breakfast) His

blood sugar is fine, he does well. Me on the other hand can not function on

granola for breakfast. Even though there is protein in kefir, in just a very

short while, I am very tired and probably grumpy! lol! Although if I have

homemade pancakes for breakfast, I do notice a difference if I drink some kt for

breakfast, I'll at least last an hour and a half, or so! lol!!! I will

occassionally have some granola as a " treat " in the evening, like twice a

year-lol! And I really do like granola, but I have to have eggs, and/or sausage,

etc, you get MY drift-for breakfast or I fall apart!! I also have to have B

vitamins, which is in both kt and kefir. And yes, I eat it all deary-hah!

Chicken, pork, seafood, bacon, fish, beef etc, they ALL have GOOD for you FATS,

as long as it is wild caught or antibiotic and hormone free!!! So many people

gain weight on regular meat sold in a grocery store from the estrogen and other

hormones given to the animal, and they don't even realize it, and farm raised

fish and seafood also has the hormones given to them in their feed, to make them

grow faster. IF you are one of the lucky ones whose metabalism runs fast enough

it may not affect you, but it is so bad for your health. Actually if you say

so, we agree to disagree, however, like I said, I don't disbelieve that some

people do better on vegetarian diets. If they do, often times, you will find

that they are blood type A, and already have tendencies toward being a

vegetarian before they ever converted over. I have a friend who is blood type

A, and when I explained it to her, she said " that's why I am never hungry for

meat! " And of course there are those who have converted over to vegetarianism

just believing that it is good for their health. If I remember right, the other

blood types fall kind of in between. It was really interesting, not sure if I

believe everything in the book, but a lot of it sure made sense!! Not sure what

a kombucha beans and or meat cassarole would taste like, I rarely make

cassaroles!!! lol!! Not many cravings for carbohydrates, and not much for sugary

things that's for sure, although we do eat plenty of brown jasmine rice and

colored potatoes, and some spelt pasta, and I really like the taste of putting

100% unrconstituted juice in the bottom of my bottles when I bottle up-hah!!!

Course I suppose you could always make baked beans with kt vinegar, brown sugar

(organic, for this girl!) and mustard!!! (Is that a cassarole? I don't think so,

it sounds good, but my recipe with sausage in the beans sounds and is much

better tasting to me! lol!! Jeani

Oh absolutely, everyone's body is different! I was just amazed to see

theresults, so if it was a concern i thought it was worth passing on. I'vefound

as a rule its the poeple who benefit from vitamin B who do well withmeat, so i

sometimes wonder if its just my limited sample, or if therereally is a link, but

as vit B is in kombucha too, i wonder, if you get mydrift.Hm. interesting yours

has gone lower, what do you eat, chicken? pork?everything?I'll def take the

point about coconut oil and give that a try next time i'mcooking instead - hey,

anyting to keep the trans fats away! (and i can usethe olive for soap too ;-)

)I'm A+ if it helps any, so that may be wehre the difference lies, thoughi've

never heard of that diet? I generally do a low GI thing as I have PCOSand it

seems to make me feel better.*Grins* its nice to be able to disagree in a

respecting way! Hmm. I wonderwhat a kombucha and (pick your meat or beans)

caserole a la a guinesscaserole would taste like?CheersCaitilinOn Tue, Jul 8,

2008 at 6:53 PM, Jeani <countryrose_ak@...>wrote:>> Not trying

to convert you either Caitlin, lol! But I have found that some> people do better

on a vegetarian diet, others lean towards vegetarian, and> do better, and then

there are those that do MUCH better physically with meat> in their diet, such as

myself, and although I don't worry overly with> cholesterol levels, my

cholesterol levels have gone lower with eating more> meats, I think that

everybody's body is different, as I know my body> personally couldn't handle a

vegetarian diet. It may have to do with the> blood type, as I have read the

Blood Type diet, and I have to say, I did> find that I felt the best on the diet

for my blood type (blood type O) with> plenty of meats. I don't crave sweets and

breads, I crave protein. Also, I> used to use olive oil to cook in until I read

that when you cook with it, it> turns into trans fatty acids, and so now I cook

with virgin Coconut oil, as> it has a much higher heat allowance and isn't so

readily converted to the> bad fats. I still use olive oil for salads and such,

(try a dressing with> olive oil and kt, now that's somethin' good!!!) And so

healthy for you, not> only do you have the good for you fats from the olive oil

when not heated,> you also have the wonderful benefits of kt in your salad, and

the good for> you fats and kt are both helping with weight loss. Jeani, a

confirmed meat> eater for my good health!!!>> Wheras I agree that most things

need either fat or sugar to flavour,> i'vefound completely going off meat did

wonders for my good and bad> fatlevel...to the point i was told i needed to

start eating more (as it hit> theunhealthy limit of being too low in the blood,

both of 'em),> despiteregularly cooking in olive oil! (i'm a vegetarian) .So if

its a> health concern, you might want to look into veggie meals for aday or two

a> week (i'm not trying to convert you)CaitilinOn Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:01 AM,>

Jeani <countryrose_ak@...

<countryrose_ak%40hotmail.com>>wrote:>>> I also am a believer in good for you

fats, the world has been so trained to>> think that everything should be low

fat, have you ever looked at the>> ingredients of low fat half-n-half? One of

the ingredients is sugar to make>> up for the awful taste, and then you gain

weight because of the sugar!!!> One> thing to think about though, is when it

comes to meats and fat, I only> buy> those meats that the animals have not been

given hormones and> antibiotics,> as THAT is what makes you gain weight from

meat with fat in> it. When I buy> my beef steaks or roasts, ( without the

hormones and> antibiotics> administered to the animal) I always buy those with

plenty of> fat in them so> that the cheaper cuts of meat are nice and tender,

and the> fat is what is> known to give the good flavor. When we Put it on our

plates,> that's when we> trim the excess fat off of it. Having said this about

low> fat food, and> weight loss, I have to say though, that drinking kt has

been> one of the best> success stories I have ever been able to tell anyone in>

helping with the> loss of weight. When you drop the weight just by drinking> a

fantastic> tasting drink, you CAN'T beat that. I have read though, that> for

extra help> with weight loss with kt, you should brew it a little more> towards

the> vinegary side, and I don't know if it is true or not, but some> recommend

the> use of green tea rather than black if using for weight loss.> Perhaps

someone> else knows something about this. And the other thing that> is

recommended is> to drink it before meals when using it to lose weight,> this may

be helpful,> but I have to say that I did lose 2 pant sizes with kt> before I

even knew> about this, so perhaps I would have lost it faster if I> had done

that,> although I did lose it quite quickly without that> information. Jeani>>

Excellent book Rodrick, and I can personally attest to> the fact that it> works

!!!zoe That is just about the number one problem> with all these diets in>>

America. Everything is low fat. It is true that if> you eat no fat> and just>

less calories all around you will not get fat. The> problem> is that the body>

craves saturated fat or animal fat. So when you> eat> low fat you are always>

hungry and splurging and can't stick to the>> diet. When you eat saturated> fat

then the body is satisfied and> doesn't> even crave more food. You can> lose

weight and not even> hardly be hungry. A> great book on this is: Eat> Fat, Lose

Fat by Dr. Enig.> Rodrick>>>

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Jeani, have you ever tried groundhog yet? (seriously now) Maybe you don't have

any up there in Alaska.

Btw, the kt batch from your scoby seems to be coming along nicely. The other one

that I may have damaged with my " liquid " has *many* bubbles. So much so that

they are even lifting up the thin baby scoby.

I tried putting some slices of ginger in when I bottled up and that worked out

really good.

Rodrick

RE: re: (unknown) (OT-kefir) Now weight loss with kt

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etc, they ALL h ave GOOD for you FATS, as long as it is wild caught or

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Nope, no groundhogs here-too cold for em' I'll leave that for you to try!

Bubbles are good, it's what helps make the end product carbonated. Hopefully

your first batch made from a thick scoby will taste better than mine did. Mine

was still a weird type of slightly sweet after 14 days of brewing, and it

started getting vinegary around the 7th day. So it really was affected by the

length of travel it took for it to get here. Jeani

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2008 07:13:08 -0400Subject: Re: re: (unknown) (OT-kefir) Now weight loss

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Jeani, have you ever tried groundhog yet? (seriously now) Maybe you don't have

any up there in Alaska.Btw, the kt batch from your scoby seems to be coming

along nicely. The other one that I may have damaged with my " liquid " has *many*

bubbles. So much so that they are even lifting up the thin baby scoby.I tried

putting some slices of ginger in when I bottled up and that worked out really

good.Rodrick

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Btw, we already have tried them. There not bad at all. Why would they be? They

eat grass like a cow.

About the kt, I think it must be because I used herbal teas for the first scoby

but it really has a weird smell and just will not make a scoby other than a very

thin one. We'll just wait and see what happens.

Rodrick

RE: re: (unknown) (OT-kefir) Now weight loss with ktAnd yes, I eat it all

deary-hah! Chicken, pork, seafood, bacon, fish, beef etc, they ALL h ave GOOD

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Hi,

Sorry for the short reply - i'm off on business in belfast for three dyas,

home for an evening and hten off to holland!

If i heat up kombucha with some beans, and make a caserole..would i lose the

good stuff, aka the microflora? I suspect so. So I asked my friend the

biologist, who suggested, yes you'd lose the adult good stuff, but the

spores etc, would still be viable as thats how they et through stomach acid

as well

i'm going to try a caserole on sunday maybe.

And thanks for hte info!

Caitilin

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:44 AM, Jeani <countryrose_ak@...>

wrote:

>

> The book says that people with blood type A do better with a vegetarian

> diet. My husband is A negative, and he can and wants to eat homemade granola

> with kefir for breakfast (although I try to give him a variety for

> breakfast) His blood sugar is fine, he does well. Me on the other hand can

> not function on granola for breakfast. Even though there is protein in

> kefir, in just a very short while, I am very tired and probably grumpy! lol!

> Although if I have homemade pancakes for breakfast, I do notice a difference

> if I drink some kt for breakfast, I'll at least last an hour and a half, or

> so! lol!!! I will occassionally have some granola as a " treat " in the

> evening, like twice a year-lol! And I really do like granola, but I have to

> have eggs, and/or sausage, etc, you get MY drift-for breakfast or I fall

> apart!! I also have to have B vitamins, which is in both kt and kefir. And

> yes, I eat it all deary-hah! Chicken, pork, seafood, bacon, fish, beef etc,

> they ALL have GOOD for you FATS, as long as it is wild caught or antibiotic

> and hormone free!!! So many people gain weight on regular meat sold in a

> grocery store from the estrogen and other hormones given to the animal, and

> they don't even realize it, and farm raised fish and seafood also has the

> hormones given to them in their feed, to make them grow faster. IF you are

> one of the lucky ones whose metabalism runs fast enough it may not affect

> you, but it is so bad for your health. Actually if you say so, we agree to

> disagree, however, like I said, I don't disbelieve that some people do

> better on vegetarian diets. If they do, often times, you will find that they

> are blood type A, and already have tendencies toward being a vegetarian

> before they ever converted over. I have a friend who is blood type A, and

> when I explained it to her, she said " that's why I am never hungry for

> meat! " And of course there are those who have converted over to

> vegetarianism just believing that it is good for their health. If I remember

> right, the other blood types fall kind of in between. It was really

> interesting, not sure if I believe everything in the book, but a lot of it

> sure made sense!! Not sure what a kombucha beans and or meat cassarole would

> taste like, I rarely make cassaroles!!! lol!! Not many cravings for

> carbohydrates, and not much for sugary things that's for sure, although we

> do eat plenty of brown jasmine rice and colored potatoes, and some spelt

> pasta, and I really like the taste of putting 100% unrconstituted juice in

> the bottom of my bottles when I bottle up-hah!!! Course I suppose you could

> always make baked beans with kt vinegar, brown sugar (organic, for this

> girl!) and mustard!!! (Is that a cassarole? I don't think so, it sounds

> good, but my recipe with sausage in the beans sounds and is much better

> tasting to me! lol!! Jeani

>

> Oh absolutely, everyone's body is different! I was just amazed to see

> theresults, so if it was a concern i thought it was worth passing on.

> I'vefound as a rule its the poeple who benefit from vitamin B who do well

> withmeat, so i sometimes wonder if its just my limited sample, or if

> therereally is a link, but as vit B is in kombucha too, i wonder, if you get

> mydrift.Hm. interesting yours has gone lower, what do you eat, chicken?

> pork?everything?I'll def take the point about coconut oil and give that a

> try next time i'mcooking instead - hey, anyting to keep the trans fats away!

> (and i can usethe olive for soap too ;-) )I'm A+ if it helps any, so that

> may be wehre the difference lies, thoughi've never heard of that diet? I

> generally do a low GI thing as I have PCOSand it seems to make me feel

> better.*Grins* its nice to be able to disagree in a respecting way! Hmm. I

> wonderwhat a kombucha and (pick your meat or beans) caserole a la a

> guinesscaserole would taste like?CheersCaitilinOn Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:53

> PM, Jeani

<countryrose_ak@...<countryrose_ak%40hotmail.com>>wrote:>>

> Not trying to convert you either Caitlin, lol! But I have found that some>

> people do better on a vegetarian diet, others lean towards vegetarian, and>

> do better, and then there are those that do MUCH better physically with

> meat> in their diet, such as myself, and although I don't worry overly with>

> cholesterol levels, my cholesterol levels have gone lower with eating more>

> meats, I think that everybody's body is different, as I know my body>

> personally couldn't handle a vegetarian diet. It may have to do with the>

> blood type, as I have read the Blood Type diet, and I have to say, I did>

> find that I felt the best on the diet for my blood type (blood type O) with>

> plenty of meats. I don't crave sweets and breads, I crave protein. Also, I>

> used to use olive oil to cook in until I read that when you cook with it,

> it> turns into trans fatty acids, and so now I cook with virgin Coconut oil,

> as> it has a much higher heat allowance and isn't so readily converted to

> the> bad fats. I still use olive oil for salads and such, (try a dressing

> with> olive oil and kt, now that's somethin' good!!!) And so healthy for

> you, not> only do you have the good for you fats from the olive oil when not

> heated,> you also have the wonderful benefits of kt in your salad, and the

> good for> you fats and kt are both helping with weight loss. Jeani, a

> confirmed meat> eater for my good health!!!>> Wheras I agree that most

> things need either fat or sugar to flavour,> i'vefound completely going off

> meat did wonders for my good and bad> fatlevel...to the point i was told i

> needed to start eating more (as it hit> theunhealthy limit of being too low

> in the blood, both of 'em),> despiteregularly cooking in olive oil! (i'm a

> vegetarian) .So if its a> health concern, you might want to look into veggie

> meals for aday or two a> week (i'm not trying to convert you)CaitilinOn Tue,

> Jul 8, 2008 at 2:01 AM,> Jeani

<countryrose_ak@...<countryrose_ak%40hotmail.com><countryrose_ak%

> 40hotmail.com>>wrote:>>> I also am a believer in good for you fats, the

> world has been so trained to>> think that everything should be low fat, have

> you ever looked at the>> ingredients of low fat half-n-half? One of the

> ingredients is sugar to make>> up for the awful taste, and then you gain

> weight because of the sugar!!!> One> thing to think about though, is when it

> comes to meats and fat, I only> buy> those meats that the animals have not

> been given hormones and> antibiotics,> as THAT is what makes you gain weight

> from meat with fat in> it. When I buy> my beef steaks or roasts, ( without

> the hormones and> antibiotics> administered to the animal) I always buy

> those with plenty of> fat in them so> that the cheaper cuts of meat are nice

> and tender, and the> fat is what is> known to give the good flavor. When we

> Put it on our plates,> that's when we> trim the excess fat off of it. Having

> said this about low> fat food, and> weight loss, I have to say though, that

> drinking kt has been> one of the best> success stories I have ever been able

> to tell anyone in> helping with the> loss of weight. When you drop the

> weight just by drinking> a fantastic> tasting drink, you CAN'T beat that. I

> have read though, that> for extra help> with weight loss with kt, you should

> brew it a little more> towards the> vinegary side, and I don't know if it is

> true or not, but some> recommend the> use of green tea rather than black if

> using for weight loss.> Perhaps someone> else knows something about this.

> And the other thing that> is recommended is> to drink it before meals when

> using it to lose weight,> this may be helpful,> but I have to say that I did

> lose 2 pant sizes with kt> before I even knew> about this, so perhaps I

> would have lost it faster if I> had done that,> although I did lose it quite

> quickly without that> information. Jeani>> Excellent book Rodrick, and I can

> personally attest to> the fact that it> works !!!zoe That is just about the

> number one problem> with all these diets in>> America. Everything is low

> fat. It is true that if> you eat no fat> and just> less calories all around

> you will not get fat. The> problem> is that the body> craves saturated fat

> or animal fat. So when you> eat> low fat you are always> hungry and

> splurging and can't stick to the>> diet. When you eat saturated> fat then

> the body is satisfied and> doesn't> even crave more food. You can> lose

> weight and not even> hardly be hungry. A> great book on this is: Eat> Fat,

> Lose Fat by Dr. Enig.> Rodrick>>>

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