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In a message dated 03/30/2000 11:32:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,

srferron@... writes:

<< I do know, however, that I no longer bruise like I used

to...which is why I continue to take it >>

just wanted to share with anyone who experiences a bruising problem that it

may be from anti-inflammatory products like aspirin. This is why you are

advised to avoid aspirin prior to surgery

Barb

who occassionally gets a headache that only Excedrin helps and always bruises

or has delayed clotting afterwards

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>

> just wanted to share with anyone who experiences a bruising problem

that it

> may be from anti-inflammatory products like aspirin. This is why you

are

> advised to avoid aspirin prior to surgery

>

No, even when I didn't ingest aspirin-like products, my arms and legs

would bruise just by looking at them! LOL

;-)

F

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Vicki

My son came home with bruises a few years ago. We at first went to the

principal and she said she did her own investigation. Needless to say,

she said it didn't happen there, but it had to. He went to school

without bruises and came home with them. I took pictures. For sure do

that. Since the school did not do much about it, we called Child

Protective Services in on the case. They didn't do much of an

investigation but I felt it was very serious and your case sounds even

more serious. There is definitely some kind of abuse going on. I

worked for years in psychiatric nursing and in state hospitals with the

most difficult people and we never bruised anyone. They are definitely

not using the correct procedures. If at all possible, take your child

out of that school until they are trained or move her somewhere they

are.

This sounds seriouws.

in Lake , near Austin

bruising

My 11 year old son is coming home from school with bruises, broken blood

vessels, carpet burns, and fingernail marks on him. He is in a new

school with staff that has not dealt with him before. He is very

difficult to deal with and quite aggressive. What is the best way to

address the situation? At this point I have addressed my concerns to his

teacher and discussed CPI training in his ARD last week. If he looked

like this due to home issues the school would call CPS.

Help!

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I am a teacher who has a very aggressive student. In fact I was bit

by him 6 times today. Like clockwork at 1:30 he starts getting very

hyper and giggling and begins pinching and biting everyone he sees.

While this behavior leaves marks on me I haven't ever left marks on

him.

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>> " Like clockwork at 1:30 he starts getting very hyper and giggling and begins

pinching and biting everyone he sees " <<

Have you ever considered that maybe something he's eating at lunch may have set

off this reaction(something he evidentally eats or drinks daily) or perhaps, is

there a change of some sort in your class routine around 1:30 or something

you're doing at that time in class that he's protesting? Has this child ever

attempted augmentative communication? It would be great if he had the

opportunity to actually communicate to you what he is feeling. My son who is 9

years old(nonverbal) started this this summer and what he's communicating to us

is incredible--it's like an answer to our prayers! Do his parents have any

clue as to what could be causing this kind of behavior? The fact that this

behavior is occuring daily and on schedule would lead me to believe that there

is a definite reason behind it.

Re: Bruising

I am a teacher who has a very aggressive student. In fact I was bit

by him 6 times today. Like clockwork at 1:30 he starts getting very

hyper and giggling and begins pinching and biting everyone he sees.

While this behavior leaves marks on me I haven't ever left marks on

him.

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e,

Bless you. Have you tried putting him in a hammock swing at 1:25pm? My very

hyper guy finds this very soothing. We hung it from our ceiling (they had

one at PS too, I bought it but they hung it!)He could swing and spin and get

the deep pressure from the hammock (folded in half and attached at the top

on an " O " ring)was just what he needed. I'm no expert of course but it

sounds to me like a sensory overload. Trina

Re: Bruising

I am a teacher who has a very aggressive student. In fact I was bit

by him 6 times today. Like clockwork at 1:30 he starts getting very

hyper and giggling and begins pinching and biting everyone he sees.

While this behavior leaves marks on me I haven't ever left marks on

him.

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child with AUTISM.

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e,

Bless you. Have you tried putting him in a hammock swing at 1:25pm? My very

hyper guy finds this very soothing. We hung it from our ceiling (they had

one at PS too, I bought it but they hung it!)He could swing and spin and get

the deep pressure from the hammock (folded in half and attached at the top

on an " O " ring)was just what he needed. I'm no expert of course but it

sounds to me like a sensory overload. Trina

Re: Bruising

I am a teacher who has a very aggressive student. In fact I was bit

by him 6 times today. Like clockwork at 1:30 he starts getting very

hyper and giggling and begins pinching and biting everyone he sees.

While this behavior leaves marks on me I haven't ever left marks on

him.

Unlocking Autism

www.UnlockingAutism.org

Autism-Awareness-Action

Worldwide internet group for parents who have a

child with AUTISM.

Schafer Autism Report

News and information on Autism

To Subscribe http://home.sprynet.com/~schafer/index.html

Healing Autism: No Finer Cause on the Planet

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We have a sensory integration lab that has activities such as a

spinning board, scooter boards, massage balls, vibrating massagers, a

swing, a slide, a trampoline, a teeter totter, lotion, music, and

various other things. We take him there every 30 minutes or as

needed.

Our administrators are very adamant about what each child with autism

should have availiable to them. Some of these things are visual or

object schedule, at devices, routine, sensory integration, etc.

I've come so far with the student who has been taken off of his

medication. This time last year we started ECT (environmental

communication training). At the beginning he had approximately 25

words at the most. Now he has atleast 500 or more. His behavior is

challenging but nothing like it has been now that he's off his

medicine.

*sigh*

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Your sensory integration lab sounds really good. My son's school also has one

set up too. Where do you teach? I'm sure your student's mom has her reasons

for taking her son off his medication but if you think that has directly

affected his behavior--she should know that. I assume you've probably discussed

that with her. I don't know how aware his mom is regarding biomedical issues

ie. diet, digestive enzymes, etc. but there are so many factors that could

contribute to this kind of behavior. The behavior you described to me COULD

indicate that the child has a yeast issue--very common problem with autistic

kids as a result of gut issues that need to be addressed. Also, many parents

are chelating their kids of heavy metals since their bodies do not have the

detox mechanism that their typical peers have. This is why it is of utmost

importance that parents and teacher educate themselves on all issues related to

autism. None of us have all the answers but sometimes when teachers and parents

put their heads together to try to come up with solutions...hopefully positive

results will follow. So hang it there with this little guy.(big guy???)

As a parent, I APPLAUD you for joining this list and sharing your experiences

as a teacher. We need more teachers like you who truly care about and advocate

for their students. Thanks

a

P.S. What is Environmental Communication Training?

Re: Bruising

We have a sensory integration lab that has activities such as a

spinning board, scooter boards, massage balls, vibrating massagers, a

swing, a slide, a trampoline, a teeter totter, lotion, music, and

various other things. We take him there every 30 minutes or as

needed.

Our administrators are very adamant about what each child with autism

should have availiable to them. Some of these things are visual or

object schedule, at devices, routine, sensory integration, etc.

I've come so far with the student who has been taken off of his

medication. This time last year we started ECT (environmental

communication training). At the beginning he had approximately 25

words at the most. Now he has atleast 500 or more. His behavior is

challenging but nothing like it has been now that he's off his

medicine.

*sigh*

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Vicki

I really think you need to report this to Child Protective Services

before the school does and they investigate you. I would not be

surprised if they do this. It will at least cover you.

in Lake

Bruising

Well, this is what is going on so far. I wrote a letter and spoke to

's teacher. Of course she is already on the defensive and

implying that the bruises are coming from home. I am also speaking with

the special ed counselor about getting CPI training. is very

aggressive and I want them to know how to handle him without injury to

himself or others. This is the third time we have had issues with injury

to since he began going to school. He has been abused by two

different teachers in the past. I do feel that this time it is an issue

with lack of education on the part of teacher and staff. I pray I am

right about this.

Thank you all for your suggestions. I am looking into the different

approaches.

Vicki King

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This student in particular was on resperdal (however you spell it)

and had made tons of progress while taking it. He attacks other

students, adults, anyone or anything he chooses at the particular

time. Today we were rotating him through different activities every 5-

10 minutes. He was happy on the computer playing his favorite program

when he turned around and smiled at me. I ofcourse think nothing of

it and look back down at the students folders and begin to write to

each parent how the day is. The student then before I knew it reached

down and bit my arm. It's soo unprovoked that is the hardest thing

about helping him. No matter what we do gets the wrong reaction.

The parents of this student are by far my most distant parents. I am

signed up to be their in home trainer at 1 hour a week. I have never

gotten in their home. I have offered 4-7 m-f and 10-7 on saturday and

sunday. But nothing seems to work. What we do at school is not

generalized at the home setting, and that by far is a problem in its

own right.

We have talked about dietary needs and his love of breads and yeasts.

His parents won't try the gluetten free diet. They say that it is

unfair to him because when he sees others eatting things he wants

he'll be sad and that's not fair to him.

Don't get me wrong I love this student with all my heart. The thing

that hurts far more than the bites is knowing how far he has come

with the assistance of the medicine. Now that he is off of it things

will be harder. Not to mention I have 4 students with one assistant

(in the afternoon -- 5 kids and 2 assistants in the am).

Talk about juggling.

If anyone has any ideas that are feasable with a class that has been

changed in structure to include a wheelchair bound CP student, a

emotionally disturbed student who likes to escape, and 3 severely

autistic students please let me know.

As parents you live a life I only visit.

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This student in particular was on resperdal (however you spell it)

and had made tons of progress while taking it. He attacks other

students, adults, anyone or anything he chooses at the particular

time. Today we were rotating him through different activities every 5-

10 minutes. He was happy on the computer playing his favorite program

when he turned around and smiled at me. I ofcourse think nothing of

it and look back down at the students folders and begin to write to

each parent how the day is. The student then before I knew it reached

down and bit my arm. It's soo unprovoked that is the hardest thing

about helping him. No matter what we do gets the wrong reaction.

The parents of this student are by far my most distant parents. I am

signed up to be their in home trainer at 1 hour a week. I have never

gotten in their home. I have offered 4-7 m-f and 10-7 on saturday and

sunday. But nothing seems to work. What we do at school is not

generalized at the home setting, and that by far is a problem in its

own right.

We have talked about dietary needs and his love of breads and yeasts.

His parents won't try the gluetten free diet. They say that it is

unfair to him because when he sees others eatting things he wants

he'll be sad and that's not fair to him.

Don't get me wrong I love this student with all my heart. The thing

that hurts far more than the bites is knowing how far he has come

with the assistance of the medicine. Now that he is off of it things

will be harder. Not to mention I have 4 students with one assistant

(in the afternoon -- 5 kids and 2 assistants in the am).

Talk about juggling.

If anyone has any ideas that are feasable with a class that has been

changed in structure to include a wheelchair bound CP student, a

emotionally disturbed student who likes to escape, and 3 severely

autistic students please let me know.

As parents you live a life I only visit.

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I want to tell you how blessed I am to be reading your posts. What a

breath of fresh air you are! Do you know how few and far between teachers

like you are???

e - I will pray for you and ask my prayer friends to pray for wisdom

and strength for you!

Keep on keeping on!

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I want to tell you how blessed I am to be reading your posts. What a

breath of fresh air you are! Do you know how few and far between teachers

like you are???

e - I will pray for you and ask my prayer friends to pray for wisdom

and strength for you!

Keep on keeping on!

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In a message dated 9/16/2003 6:47:20 PM Central Standard Time,

vking@... writes:

>

> Well, this is what is going on so far. I wrote a letter and spoke to

> ’s teacher. Of course she is already on the defensive and

> implying that the bruises are coming from home. I am also speaking with

> the special ed counselor about getting CPI training. is very

> aggressive and I want them to know how to handle him without injury to

> himself or others. This is the third time we have had issues with injury

> to since he began going to school. He has been abused by two

> different teachers in the past. I do feel that this time it is an issue

> with lack of education on the part of teacher and staff. I pray I am

> right about this.

Angel has never had an abusive teacher she has had one that was neglegent

though just leaving Angel in the corner to self mutilate. Cps " had a case " on

going on us for a while but realized we were doing all we could and backed out

after one case worker broke the law made passes at me would come to my home

when I was alone and such and such not to mention he threatened to take the kids

if there was one more mark on Angel though he admitted to never finding

anything but the marks she put on herself in front of him. We got a new case

worker

after complaining and she finally closed the case.

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>>CPI training? what is that?

CPI 'S Nonviolent Crisis Intervention Program

I've taken it at ESC-17 http://www.esc17.net . It mainly focuses on how to

break a hold, hair pull, bite, choke, etc. with out injuring the child. It

also gives you a way to safely restrain and a team transport. Your local ESC

should offer something along the same lines.

Tonya

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>>Have you ever considered that maybe something he's eating at lunch may

have set off this reaction(something he evidentally eats or drinks daily) or

perhaps, is there a change of some sort in your class routine around 1:30 or

something you're doing at that time in class that he's protesting?

Well said! Sometimes it takes an outside person to see the pattern. Those

involved are so busy tending to the child's behavior that it's not humanly

possible to see all the influences. Also consider red dye or food

additives. We have a student in my son's school that has a horrible time if

they get even a minute taste of red dye. Amazing what you find it in.

Tonya

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I too have an aggressive child who is on 4 psychoactive medicines and

is on the DAN protocol, goes to school nd receives their SI/OT and

privately. However I do believe when a child is aggressive - the

parent has an obligation to work with the school to decrease

aggression and maintain safety of everyone.

I am heartbroken when I learn that Sam has scratched/biten or hurt a

peer or a teacher. Sometimes there are situations that provoke her

acting out and the school has a responsibility to work w/ me to fish

those out and mimimize that potential. However there have been some

incidents when there appears to be no antecendent.

I fully understand the schools and teachers have enormous

expectations placed on them consequently alot is placed on the kids

to learn more and do more at a younger age. I beleive there is a

tendency to overdiagnose and medicate. Instead of looking at the

standard or expectation.

The American Academy of Pediatrics/Adolescents practice guideline for

Autism state that the only appropriate and necessary time to medicate

an individual with Autism is when they are aggressive to others and

themselves.

That is why I am proactive in seeking medicines. I try not to force

my views on anyone else. I also don't want my kid hurting anyone

including teachers or my kid being hurt by anyone either.

However some of the issues congress has been trying to insert in IDEA

regarding aggressive and disruptive behavior - you got to wonder if

if springs from parents having concerns or being reluctant to look at

meds for kids who may be real challenges in the classroom.

Just food for thought

Jeneane

Houston

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  • 3 years later...

has your doc checked your 'clotting factor" lately,, its pro-time or INR..Jurydoctor@... wrote: I am black and blue and purple. what is causing this? On procrit and neupogen.. 22nd shot on Saturday. Anybody know? Appreciate your response. amy See what's new at AOL.com and

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Low platelets can cause excessive bruising and is from the treatment . It should clear up when treatment is over , or the doctor can give you a transfusion if it gets bad .

bruising

I am black and blue and purple. what is causing this?

On procrit and neupogen.. 22nd shot on Saturday.

Anybody know?

Appreciate your response.

amy

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well let us know hon,, Jurydoctor@... wrote: In a message dated 9/10/2007 5:37:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hepatitis C writes: has your doc checked your 'clotting factor" lately,, its pro-time or INR.. I see him in 2 weeks, and I'll tell him.. thanks. amy See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Jackie

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My guess would be pressure from the cast especially as the kids start to outgrow

the cast and it gets tighter. We never had much bruising, but I think that is

because he never got to a point in any of his casts where it got tight due to

growth.

Noelle (12-2-01)

Ian (8-15-04)

Bruising

I've seen a few mentions (and pictures) of kiddos with bruising when

the casts are removed. For those who spoke with Miss Mehta, did she

say what causes that?

and I were discussing it and can't figure out what would be the

root of it. I have my calendula on hand still from the abrasions on

Jack's neck post-casting, and I will bring along the Arnica should we

discover bruising. Just wondering if anyone knew *why*.

Thanks!

Sandi

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