Re: Nursing position and infantile scoliosis connection....

[Guest guest]

I've never heard of this before. I could see how nursing positions could

possibly worsen a curve, but cause it, no. I'm just speaking from my own

experience, but my daughter Ella who has PIS is my fourth child. My fourth child

to be completely breastfed. My older 3 were all nursed the exact same way as she

is (she's still nursing). You get used to doing it a certain way and yet none of

my older children developed infantile scoliosis, so I don't have a doubt in my

mind that nursing did not cause Ella's PIS.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't even think of a position you'd hold

your child in that could cause their spine to curve in any way other than

normal. I would desperately hope that the suggestion that nursing positions

could lead to/cause infantile scoliosis would not scare some mothers away from

nursing either!

Ella's PIS is idiopathic, but they " guessed " that since I'm fairly small and she

was long at birth that maybe she was bent wrong in the womb. Just a guess. I

wonder if that's where the nursing positions comes from, a guess?

Momma to Ella, 8 months old, cast #3 applied 5/21

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> Hello,

> I just came across these sites that mention a possible connection between the

position that you nurse your baby in and infantile scoliosis. Has anybody heard

of this? If so, which position would be recommended?

>

> http://www.justchildrenshealth.com/infantile-scoliosis.php

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> http://www.springerlink.com/content/h4037495368r3262/

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[Guest guest]

There is a research paper on this site (files section) that tries to draw a link

to sleeping position and IS (back vs tummy). Basically says if a baby lies on

its (same) side all the time the ribs will mold to that position and cause the

IS. Slightly different than the nursing theory but along the same lines.

Here's the paper.

McMaster 1983: Infantile Idiopathic Scoliosis: Can it be prevented.

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/sAy3T_RlkXFrtfPx9WtPOjMT--rBxMDVUTqrkHm6tmTILAulTYv\

WjGzWsU1Y4zqdiXrMcQMMs1zvrSuWDOfJtwvZIS-cpqIfmtc/McMaster1983.pdf

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> > Hello,

> > I just came across these sites that mention a possible connection between

> the position that you nurse your baby in and infantile scoliosis. Has

> anybody heard of this? If so, which position would be recommended?

> >

> > http://www.justchildrenshealth.com/infantile-scoliosis.php

> >

> > http://www.springerlink.com/content/h4037495368r3262/

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes, there are such conceptshttp://www.bjj.boneandjoint.org.uk/content/65-B/5/612.full.pdfIn files of this group infantile scoliosis treatment/files/ there is article "Back to Sleep Campaign

& scoliosis".http://www.luzimarteixeira.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/patterns-of-postural-asymmetry-in-infants.pdfWhich position is recommended? The clue is it should not be one position. Because of SIDS back position in situations when newborn is unattended is recommended. In every other cases prone position is best. Because almost every newborn is asymmetric it is important to do things as symmetricaly as possible (once left/ once right hand), changing the direction of the bed once week (some say even more often), changing hands when carrying babies. Let the baby move freely (do not use tight clothes, blankets tightly wrapped, etc.), change positions.MP From: <davelainer@...> infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Nursing position and infantile scoliosis connection....

Hello,

I just came across these sites that mention a possible connection between the position that you nurse your baby in and infantile scoliosis. Has anybody heard of this? If so, which position would be recommended?

http://www.justchildrenshealth.com/infantile-scoliosis.php

http://www.springerlink.com/content/h4037495368r3262/

[Guest guest]

Thanks for you input and links to articles.

I am still nursing my little girl, who is 9 1/2 months old and I do continue to

do so. If there had been a 'better' way to nurse her other than lying slightly

tilted against me then I would but I have yet to find an alternative position.

Rosie was in the posterior position and I had a very long 2 1/2 day labour which

I think could of contributed to her curve. Also one of my uterosacral ligaments

had been removed during surgery many years ago which I think might have made

living quarters for her rather cramped. Another theory that I have is that we

had her sleep in her car seat for a number of months because whenever she lay

flat on her back she would have serious reflux. Then of course it could be

caused by none of these factors. I don't think that we will ever know.

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> > > Hello,

> > > I just came across these sites that mention a possible connection between

> > the position that you nurse your baby in and infantile scoliosis. Has

> > anybody heard of this? If so, which position would be recommended?

> > >

> > > http://www.justchildrenshealth.com/infantile-scoliosis.php

> > >

> > > http://www.springerlink.com/content/h4037495368r3262/

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

My son, the youngest of 4, has PIS. I have never nursed any of my children. We

found my son's IS when he was a few months of age. We never put him in any toy

or baby device (swing etc.) that caused him to 'hunch' over, except his car seat

only to travel. Even then, I 'propped' him up with receiving blankets to keep

him as 'straight' as possible. His scoliosis still progressively got worse. He

is now 18 months old and in a brace to hold the curve. We have tried casting

but it did not go well for us. We are hoping to try casting again in the near

future.

I strongly feel that it is something that you are born with. It happens in

utero or is genetic. I feel the cases in utero are the ones that outgrow it and

the genetic cases progressively get worse. That is my personal opinion, but I

can say with absolute certainly that in our situation there is no link between

PIS and nursing.

[Guest guest]

I definitely agree with all of this! I do nurse my son, but do not believe the

position in which I nurses him caused his scoliosis. I believe in his case it is

genetic, as several family members also have it. (not infantile though).

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> My son, the youngest of 4, has PIS. I have never nursed any of my children.

We found my son's IS when he was a few months of age. We never put him in any

toy or baby device (swing etc.) that caused him to 'hunch' over, except his car

seat only to travel. Even then, I 'propped' him up with receiving blankets to

keep him as 'straight' as possible. His scoliosis still progressively got

worse. He is now 18 months old and in a brace to hold the curve. We have tried

casting but it did not go well for us. We are hoping to try casting again in

the near future.

> I strongly feel that it is something that you are born with. It happens in

utero or is genetic. I feel the cases in utero are the ones that outgrow it and

the genetic cases progressively get worse. That is my personal opinion, but I

can say with absolute certainly that in our situation there is no link between

PIS and nursing.

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[Guest guest]

Is this youtube footage specifically for infantile scoliosis? Is there any way

to get it translated?

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> > > > Hello,

> > > > I just came across these sites that mention a possible connection

between

> > > the position that you nurse your baby in and infantile scoliosis. Has

> > > anybody heard of this? If so, which position would be recommended?

> > > >

> > > > http://www.justchildrenshealth.com/infantile-scoliosis.php

> > > >

> > > > http://www.springerlink.com/content/h4037495368r3262/

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

I disagree. The author of the 1st article doesnt have all the facts

straight.

I think if breastfeeding had anything to do with it, we'de be seeing many

more cases.

HRH

> Hello,

> I just came across these sites that mention a possible connection between

> the position that you nurse your baby in and infantile scoliosis. Has

> anybody heard of this? If so, which position would be recommended?

>

> http://www.justchildrenshealth.com/infantile-scoliosis.php

>

> http://www.springerlink.com/content/h4037495368r3262/

>

>

[Guest guest]

If the child is diagnosed with PIS, nursing in certain positions may

aggravate the scoli, but wont cause it in most cases. This is multi

factorial, of course...

HRH

> Hello,

> I just came across these sites that mention a possible connection between

> the position that you nurse your baby in and infantile scoliosis. Has

> anybody heard of this? If so, which position would be recommended?

>

> http://www.justchildrenshealth.com/infantile-scoliosis.php

>

> http://www.springerlink.com/content/h4037495368r3262/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry for my misunderstanding. I was writing not about solely breastfeeding but the overall environmental factors.There is no one single cause of infantile scoliosis. There must be many factors and even then in most cases it does not automatically mean scoliosisThere's a review paperhttp://www.amjorthopedics.com/PDF/036110586.pdfand big chapter about the work in the field and different concepts presented.Writing about concepts I meant position of the baby - as non-native I interpreted the word "nursing" as "overall care taken".And yet - because the infantile idiopathic

scoliosis is so rare it means that there must be many factors - among them some are probably intrinsic. The papers does not differ the causes of progressive and resolving infantile scoliosis.MP From: MP <mirmil30@...> "infantile scoliosis treatment " <infantile scoliosis treatment > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Nursing position and infantile scoliosis connection....

Yes, there are such conceptshttp://www.bjj.boneandjoint.org.uk/content/65-B/5/612.full.pdfIn files of this group infantile scoliosis treatment/files/ there is article "Back to Sleep Campaign

& scoliosis".http://www.luzimarteixeira.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/patterns-of-postural-asymmetry-in-infants.pdfWhich position is recommended? The clue is it should not be one position. Because of SIDS back position in situations when newborn is unattended is recommended. In every other cases prone position is best. Because almost every newborn is asymmetric it is important to do things as symmetricaly as possible (once left/ once right hand), changing the direction of the bed once week (some say even more often), changing hands when carrying babies. Let the baby move freely (do not use tight clothes, blankets tightly wrapped, etc.), change positions.MP From: <davelainer@...> infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Nursing position and infantile scoliosis connection....

Hello,

I just came across these sites that mention a possible connection between the position that you nurse your baby in and infantile scoliosis. Has anybody heard of this? If so, which position would be recommended?

http://www.justchildrenshealth.com/infantile-scoliosis.php

http://www.springerlink.com/content/h4037495368r3262/