Re: New to the group and need help with fermenting vegetables

[Guest guest]

I totally agree. Even if it's the food renegade.

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> > Here is the story I was referring to, everyone!

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> > http://www.foodrenegade.com/mason-jar-ferments-safe/

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> Hey ,

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> I read that too. I still can not find an original reference to the use of

olive, coconut, or fat on the surface of the ferments. And the blog she wrote

does not give one either.

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> And yeah, at times I am a tad bit anal about getting the probably unimportant

little tidbit of info about something, but I don't believe everything I read and

if it can't be backed up with a source or more, well, I tend to not believe it

as much!

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[Guest guest]

I know and have met Sandor, and perhaps we have forgotten his story... that he's

not ignoring the very sick. He is living proof that someone who is immune

compromised can thrive on a varied diet of wild ferments. He has HIV, or AIDS,

one of the two.

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> Hi Alyssa

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ut does not address the question of c. difficile

> and of course they are quite different. I can make a theoretical

> extrapolation that the ph will not allow 'any' anaerobic bacteria to survive

> and that may in fact be true but I try to be as concrete as I can about what

There's some weird things about bacteria that we should consider... dead or

alive, bacteria can influence the microscopic landscape. Their DNA is floating

around and I believe, at that level on the food chain, the DNA from dead

bacteria also affects living bacteria. When one bacteria can become millions in

a matter of hours, things happen we don't fully understand.

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> As for Sandor, I think you and I are on the same page in terms of wanting to

> stay away from leeching plastic and all manner of toxins and tossing a

> product that has mold (actually here's one for you - a woman near me

> recently recommended weighting kraut with an aluminum foil wrapped stone or

> aluminum can. Eek!).

We all have points in our lives when we choose to throw out hands up at

something and just go with it. If you decide plastic is horrible, and it makes

you feel better not to use it, great. same with aluminum. Not too many people

would really argue with you, but mostly for lack of concrete evidence. I think

one of the banes of society is foam cushions. they're everywhere and when they

break down, the resulting decomposing material is SUPER SUPER bad, supposedly.

How do you avoid foam? good luck. Just sayin.

Here's a horribly great article about leaching, but it doesn't specify about

acids.

http://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/87/8735cover.html

Here's the thing about Sandor though. I like his

> relaxed approach as long as we are not using it as the 'gold standard' for

> treating really sickly people.

he's not a doctor diagnosing illness either. just like sally is not either in

NT. do what makes you better, not what someone writes in a book. half the

healing in probably in our heads too.

[Guest guest]

I know and have met Sandor, and perhaps we have forgotten his story... that he's

not ignoring the very sick. He is living proof that someone who is immune

compromised can thrive on a varied diet of wild ferments. He has HIV, or AIDS,

one of the two.

>

> Hi Alyssa

>

>

>

ut does not address the question of c. difficile

> and of course they are quite different. I can make a theoretical

> extrapolation that the ph will not allow 'any' anaerobic bacteria to survive

> and that may in fact be true but I try to be as concrete as I can about what

There's some weird things about bacteria that we should consider... dead or

alive, bacteria can influence the microscopic landscape. Their DNA is floating

around and I believe, at that level on the food chain, the DNA from dead

bacteria also affects living bacteria. When one bacteria can become millions in

a matter of hours, things happen we don't fully understand.

>

>

> As for Sandor, I think you and I are on the same page in terms of wanting to

> stay away from leeching plastic and all manner of toxins and tossing a

> product that has mold (actually here's one for you - a woman near me

> recently recommended weighting kraut with an aluminum foil wrapped stone or

> aluminum can. Eek!).

We all have points in our lives when we choose to throw out hands up at

something and just go with it. If you decide plastic is horrible, and it makes

you feel better not to use it, great. same with aluminum. Not too many people

would really argue with you, but mostly for lack of concrete evidence. I think

one of the banes of society is foam cushions. they're everywhere and when they

break down, the resulting decomposing material is SUPER SUPER bad, supposedly.

How do you avoid foam? good luck. Just sayin.

Here's a horribly great article about leaching, but it doesn't specify about

acids.

http://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/87/8735cover.html

Here's the thing about Sandor though. I like his

> relaxed approach as long as we are not using it as the 'gold standard' for

> treating really sickly people.

he's not a doctor diagnosing illness either. just like sally is not either in

NT. do what makes you better, not what someone writes in a book. half the

healing in probably in our heads too.