Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 All I have to share is that often times the food someone most craves is what they are allergic to... there's a man who did a book titled "Diet for a Lifetime" (not focused at all on Special Needs) who mentioned that in illustrating an example. bloom where you are planted From: Lynda Heffernan <lynda.heffernan@...>Subject: MilkAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 8:19 AM Evening, I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. Cheers, Lynda.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hi, Your son obviously have the caseomorphin reaction to milk products. (Thats where partially digested milk protein is seen by the brain as a kind of drug that makes him feel " high " . The first really really really important thing to do is get him on the casein-free, gluten-free diet. Do it slowly. There is a great website by talk about curing autism address: www.tacanow.org They explain all about food reactions, the gfcf diet and how important it is for recovery along with all you want to know about biomedical, vitamins, probiotics and case history information. And it is all free. Please take the time to go there. It will help you find focus and center your program with your son and your daughter. You will also find links to everything from groups like this to other treatments for aspergers and pdd-nos like mb12, hyperbaric oxygen treatments and lots and lots of stuff and support. Good luck and remember the best treatment is to go slowly, set your course and do not be dissuaded by anyone who says your children can not be recovered. There are thousands who are recovering. We just need to do what's good for them, and do it now. God Bless and good luck. > > > Evening, >  > I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. >  > Cheers, > Lynda. > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Dear Lynda, Both the casein in the milk and the gluten in the carbs are addictive (an understatement). They go right for the endorphin receptors (just like heroin). Soy milk is, unfortunately, not a good choice, especially for a little boy. This is from Genet's autism list where the question was asked on soy: And don't panic, a month on soy isn't that long. You can make your own nut milks at home. If you want to know how, email me. We've all been overwhelmed (sometimes daily!). Sincerely, Francine, info on soy below: SOY DANGERS: * High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused growth problems in children. * Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic orders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused stunted growth. * Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women. * Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease. * Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body’s requirement for B12. * Soy foods increase the body’s requirement for vitamin D. * Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein. * Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines. * Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food processing and added to many soy foods. * Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and the kidneys. SOY INFANT FORMULA — BIRTH CONTROL PILLS FOR BABIES * Babies fed soy-based formula have 13,000 to 22,000 times more estrogen compounds in their blood than babies fed milk-based formula. * Infants exclusively fed soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at least five birth control pills per day. * Male infants undergo a “testosterone surge†during the first few months of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult male. During this period, baby boys are programmed to express male characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of their sexual organs and other masculine physical traits, but also in setting patterns in the brain characteristic of male behavior. * Pediatricians are noticing greater numbers of boys whose physical maturation is delayed, or does not occur at all, including lack of development of the sexual organs. Learning disabilities, especially in male children, have reached epidemic proportions. * Soy infant feeding—which floods the bloodstream with female hormones that inhibit testosterone—cannot be ignored as a possible cause for these tragic developments. In animals, soy feeding indicates that phytoestrogens in soy are powerful endocrine disrupters. * Almost 15 percent of white girls and 50 percent of African-American girls show signs of puberty such as breast development and pubic hair, before the age of eight. Some girls are showing sexual development before the age of three. Premature development of girls has been linked to the use of soy formula and exposure to environmental estrogens such as PCBs and DDE. In a message dated 10/25/2008 4:47:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lynda.heffernan@... writes: Evening, I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. Cheers, Lynda.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. epiousian = the expression of agapequite a bit more than enoughPlay online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 When kids crave milk and carbs they are usually sensitive to milk and wheat (casein and gluten) like a drug. It literally creates an opiate effect in their brain. Soy, unfortunately is very similar to regular milk. When we removed my son's food allergies (which he craved), his issues became so much more minor that his therapies could actually work. Yes, at first it is overwhelming. It quickly becomes 2nd nature, and for us the improvements were sooooo worth any hassle. Find someone who does it to " walk you through " the steps. There are plenty of websites on it, if you want a list I can email some to you. Sometimes you just have to DO it, one small step at a time. -- In Autism and Aspergers Treatment , Lynda Heffernan <lynda.heffernan@...> wrote: > > > Evening, >  > I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. >  > Cheers, > Lynda. > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Wow, as an infant, I did breast feed my daughter for a year. But when I had mixed milk baby formula into her baby cereal, it ran down her chin and turned her chin red. The Peds said she's probably allergic and give her soy formula. So, I did until she was like 3! Then we tried cow milk and she didn't seem to be allergic and that was that. This was over 13 years ago as my girl is 16 now. But all this I did waaaaaaay before I knew any better and sadly, she had her shots and all, too. ===================================================== You Wrote: SOY INFANT FORMULA - BIRTH CONTROL PILLS FOR BABIES * Babies fed soy-based formula have 13,000 to 22,000 times more estrogen compounds in their blood than babies fed milk-based formula. * Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thank you for this . He is now demanding lot's of soya but not as much as the lactose free. I am now reading a great book called 'Gut and Psychology Syndrome'. It's very interesting. Lynda.>> > Evening,>  > I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv.>  > Cheers,> Lynda.> > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thank you for this . He is now demanding lot's of soya but not as much as the lactose free. I am now reading a great book called 'Gut and Psychology Syndrome'. It's very interesting. Lynda.>> > Evening,>  > I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv.>  > Cheers,> Lynda.> > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Hello, Your mail was enlightening! What do you think about rice milk? Cheers, Lynda. From: sunrose101@... <sunrose101@...>Subject: Re: MilkAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Sunday, 26 October, 2008, 1:48 AM Dear Lynda, Both the casein in the milk and the gluten in the carbs are addictive (an understatement) . They go right for the endorphin receptors (just like heroin). Soy milk is, unfortunately, not a good choice, especially for a little boy. This is from Genet's autism list where the question was asked on soy: And don't panic, a month on soy isn't that long. You can make your own nut milks at home. If you want to know how, email me. We've all been overwhelmed (sometimes daily!). Sincerely, Francine, info on soy below: SOY DANGERS: * High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused growth problems in children. * Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic orders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused stunted growth. * Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women. * Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease. * Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body’s requirement for B12. * Soy foods increase the body’s requirement for vitamin D. * Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein. * Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines. * Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food processing and added to many soy foods. * Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and the kidneys. SOY INFANT FORMULA — BIRTH CONTROL PILLS FOR BABIES * Babies fed soy-based formula have 13,000 to 22,000 times more estrogen compounds in their blood than babies fed milk-based formula. * Infants exclusively fed soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at least five birth control pills per day. * Male infants undergo a “testosterone surge†during the first few months of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult male. During this period, baby boys are programmed to express male characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of their sexual organs and other masculine physical traits, but also in setting patterns in the brain characteristic of male behavior. * Pediatricians are noticing greater numbers of boys whose physical maturation is delayed, or does not occur at all, including lack of development of the sexual organs. Learning disabilities, especially in male children, have reached epidemic proportions. * Soy infant feeding—which floods the bloodstream with female hormones that inhibit testosterone—cannot be ignored as a possible cause for these tragic developments. In animals, soy feeding indicates that phytoestrogens in soy are powerful endocrine disrupters. * Almost 15 percent of white girls and 50 percent of African-American girls show signs of puberty such as breast development and pubic hair, before the age of eight. Some girls are showing sexual development before the age of three. Premature development of girls has been linked to the use of soy formula and exposure to environmental estrogens such as PCBs and DDE. In a message dated 10/25/2008 4:47:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lynda.heffernan@ .co. uk writes: Evening, I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. Cheers, Lynda.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . epiousian = the expression of agapequite a bit more than enough Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Hello, Your mail was enlightening! What do you think about rice milk? Cheers, Lynda. From: sunrose101@... <sunrose101@...>Subject: Re: MilkAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Sunday, 26 October, 2008, 1:48 AM Dear Lynda, Both the casein in the milk and the gluten in the carbs are addictive (an understatement) . They go right for the endorphin receptors (just like heroin). Soy milk is, unfortunately, not a good choice, especially for a little boy. This is from Genet's autism list where the question was asked on soy: And don't panic, a month on soy isn't that long. You can make your own nut milks at home. If you want to know how, email me. We've all been overwhelmed (sometimes daily!). Sincerely, Francine, info on soy below: SOY DANGERS: * High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused growth problems in children. * Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic orders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused stunted growth. * Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women. * Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease. * Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body’s requirement for B12. * Soy foods increase the body’s requirement for vitamin D. * Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein. * Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines. * Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food processing and added to many soy foods. * Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and the kidneys. SOY INFANT FORMULA — BIRTH CONTROL PILLS FOR BABIES * Babies fed soy-based formula have 13,000 to 22,000 times more estrogen compounds in their blood than babies fed milk-based formula. * Infants exclusively fed soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at least five birth control pills per day. * Male infants undergo a “testosterone surge†during the first few months of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult male. During this period, baby boys are programmed to express male characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of their sexual organs and other masculine physical traits, but also in setting patterns in the brain characteristic of male behavior. * Pediatricians are noticing greater numbers of boys whose physical maturation is delayed, or does not occur at all, including lack of development of the sexual organs. Learning disabilities, especially in male children, have reached epidemic proportions. * Soy infant feeding—which floods the bloodstream with female hormones that inhibit testosterone—cannot be ignored as a possible cause for these tragic developments. In animals, soy feeding indicates that phytoestrogens in soy are powerful endocrine disrupters. * Almost 15 percent of white girls and 50 percent of African-American girls show signs of puberty such as breast development and pubic hair, before the age of eight. Some girls are showing sexual development before the age of three. Premature development of girls has been linked to the use of soy formula and exposure to environmental estrogens such as PCBs and DDE. In a message dated 10/25/2008 4:47:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lynda.heffernan@ .co. uk writes: Evening, I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. Cheers, Lynda.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . epiousian = the expression of agapequite a bit more than enough Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Wow. I am getting such great feedback from everybody. I am in Europe where the research and medical opinion is light years behind the US and Canada. Also I live in Switzerland. Full of dairy and bread and pastries. The kids are battling against the change of diet but i will persevere. Cheers, Lynda. From: endofautism <endofautism@...>Subject: Re: MilkAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Saturday, 25 October, 2008, 5:27 PM Hi, Your son obviously have the caseomorphin reaction to milk products.(Thats where partially digested milk protein is seen by the brain as akind of drug that makes him feel "high". The first really reallyreally important thing to do is get him on the casein-free,gluten-free diet. Do it slowly. There is a great website by talkabout curing autism address: www.tacanow. org They explain all aboutfood reactions, the gfcf diet and how important it is for recoveryalong with all you want to know about biomedical, vitamins, probioticsand case history information. And it is all free. Please take thetime to go there. It will help you find focus and center your programwith your son and your daughter. You will also find links toeverything from groups like this to other treatments for aspergers andpdd-nos like mb12, hyperbaric oxygen treatments and lots and lots ofstuff and support. Good luck and remember the best treatment is to goslowly, set your course and do not be dissuaded by anyone who saysyour children can not be recovered. There are thousands who arerecovering. We just need to do what's good for them, and do it now. God Bless and good luck.>> > Evening,>  > I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sisterhas aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. Myquestion is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litresper day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactosefree to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I havetried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gutand cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming.Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long asit's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv.>  > Cheers,> Lynda.> > Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://uk.messenger .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Wow. I am getting such great feedback from everybody. I am in Europe where the research and medical opinion is light years behind the US and Canada. Also I live in Switzerland. Full of dairy and bread and pastries. The kids are battling against the change of diet but i will persevere. Cheers, Lynda. From: endofautism <endofautism@...>Subject: Re: MilkAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Saturday, 25 October, 2008, 5:27 PM Hi, Your son obviously have the caseomorphin reaction to milk products.(Thats where partially digested milk protein is seen by the brain as akind of drug that makes him feel "high". The first really reallyreally important thing to do is get him on the casein-free,gluten-free diet. Do it slowly. There is a great website by talkabout curing autism address: www.tacanow. org They explain all aboutfood reactions, the gfcf diet and how important it is for recoveryalong with all you want to know about biomedical, vitamins, probioticsand case history information. And it is all free. Please take thetime to go there. It will help you find focus and center your programwith your son and your daughter. You will also find links toeverything from groups like this to other treatments for aspergers andpdd-nos like mb12, hyperbaric oxygen treatments and lots and lots ofstuff and support. Good luck and remember the best treatment is to goslowly, set your course and do not be dissuaded by anyone who saysyour children can not be recovered. There are thousands who arerecovering. We just need to do what's good for them, and do it now. God Bless and good luck.>> > Evening,>  > I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sisterhas aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. Myquestion is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litresper day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactosefree to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I havetried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gutand cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming.Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long asit's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv.>  > Cheers,> Lynda.> > Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://uk.messenger .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 I have been giving my son soy for a while now. He has improved greatly over the last couple months through a combination of therapies-avoiding lactose as one of them. As soy milk is costly, a Chinese friend of mine has loaned me a home soy milk maker. I am planning on buying one next week, and I will let you guys know how it goes. -Dawn > > > > > > Evening, > > � > > I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister > has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My > question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres > per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose > free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have > tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut > and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. > Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as > it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. > > � > > Cheers, > > Lynda. > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Hi, I'm new to the group. In fact, I should probably do an intro post. But my son is two (just turned on August 30) and he's suspected of being on the spectrum. (We're still waiting for an official diagnosis.) Needless to say, I've been reading like mad, because I started out with NO knowledge of autism at all! From what I've read, there's no Scientific Evidence for the Opiates theory. But apparently, some kids with Autism drink a TON of fluids - even to the point of drinking so much that they puke. That can be bad, so you should limit his fluids to some extent. (As much as possible.) But get this - even with odd restricted diets, most kids with Autism do NOT develop malnutrition! And I have some ideas about making white purees more varied. Beans (navy, great northern, other white ones) are easy to puree. If he likes bananas (and ONLY if he likes them, because he WILL taste them), they can be mixed in and still make the food white if you have enough other stuff. Cauliflower, parsnips (they are YUMMY!), apples, all sorts of grains like Quinoa and Millet and spelt, potatoes and rice. The rice (and potatoes) could be boiled/steamed in chicken soup broth - if it's homemade, you can throw all SORTS of veggies in, and it's still a white puree. Onions - grate them - YUM! Garlic, too. Heck, radishes are white if you skip the red part. The white part of scallions. Parsley root. Isn't fennel white? Rutabagas (never had them, but I want to try them). Pears. Chicken and pork can be pureed and it's still white. I wonder how much of his milk consumption is simple hunger. If his white purees are mostly carbs, they're probably going right through him. Now I'm HOPING that he loves all sorts of flavors, and it's just different TEXTURES (and colors) that he hates. If so, throwing a few of those things into his diet should work. If not, then you have your work cut out for you. (BTW, coconut is also white - YUM!) My son LOVES the flavor of onions, but if they're not grated, he spits them out because he doesn't like the texture. HTH! Anyone else have white food ideas? --- In Autism and Aspergers Treatment , Lynda Heffernan <lynda.heffernan@...> wrote: > > > Evening, >  > I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. >  > Cheers, > Lynda. > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 The type of milk that you give a child can make a huge difference. When I switched our son from pastuerized grocery store milk to whole-fat REAL milk that I bought directly from a farmer (it is called " raw " milk - not pastuerized - like how people have been drinking milk for thousands of years until " industrialized food " ), our son made HUGE changes in personality, in his bowel movements, in his over all health. We actually switched to raw goat milk and the changes were SO dramatic that his teachers phoned us asking us if we had put him on psychotropics. There's NOTHING that will give you the nutrition of REAL milk - milk that has been taken from an animal - cow or goat - that has been living out in the pasture, eaten lots of grass (passing along the right balance of essentially fatty acids which are essential to brain and nervous system development), instead of factory-farmed milk where cows (ruminants) are forced to eat grain and seldom ever get into the sun. Don't go for then nut milks - they're not even in the same ballpark for nutrition. It isn't milk or wheat that is the problem - BUT, it is HOW the milk or wheat has been raised or produced. If you're feeding your son wheat bread that is made using your basic baker's yeast - where the flour is taken directly out of the bag, mixed with liquids/yeast, and then only left to rise for a couple hours?? That's the unhealthy kind of wheat. We use recipes and ideas from Nourishing Traditions which is loaded with awesome information on how to make/find REAL food - not processed, not chemicals, not pasteurized, and not fed wrong!! I have a small nutrition group with other mothers of special needs children and we talk about nutrition, foods, and diets ALL the time if you want to come on over and join us. Just give me a yell......... SharonOn Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Lynda Heffernan <lynda.heffernan@...> wrote: Evening, I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. Cheers, Lynda.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. -- Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely accordingto conscience, above all liberties. - Milton, AreopagiticaDeut 11:15 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you will have plenty to eat.Check out my blog - www.ericsons.net - Food for the Body and Soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Dear Sharon, I'm so glad you're able to get milk that is so far superior to the store stuff. While you are definitely right that raw milk is far superior to pasteurized, and goat's milk far closer to human milk than cow's, it is the peptide molecule in the casein and the gluten that goes for the endorphin receptors in the brain, thereby blocking them and interfering with the immune system. My kids drank only raw goat's milk, and yet it was when we became vegan -- and stopped milk -- that it tipped my daughter into well. I have heard other parents say raw milk is tolerable too, so it's great that you've had improvement. Homemade nut and/or seed milks do have fine nutrition -- homemade! -- and taste delicious. I've been making such great yoghurt, 'cheese'/kefir from raw sunflower seeds. I do remember too how superior raw goat's milk is to any cow's milk, especially pasteurized. Pasteurization is a process that kills the phosphotase enzyme -- as well as all others -- making the calcium unavailable (except to kidneys and joints!). In addition, it is debatable whether the large cow's milk calcium molecule (used to grow a 1000 lb. calf) works for any child or adult. Sincerely, Francine In a message dated 11/15/2008 7:59:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, skericson@... writes: The type of milk that you give a child can make a huge difference. When I switched our son from pastuerized grocery store milk to whole-fat REAL milk that I bought directly from a farmer (it is called "raw" milk - not pastuerized - like how people have been drinking milk for thousands of years until "industrialized food"), our son made HUGE changes in personality, in his bowel movements, in his over all health. We actually switched to raw goat milk and the changes were SO dramatic that his teachers phoned us asking us if we had put him on psychotropics. There's NOTHING that will give you the nutrition of REAL milk - milk that has been taken from an animal - cow or goat - that has been living out in the pasture, eaten lots of grass (passing along the right balance of essentially fatty acids which are essential to brain and nervous system development), instead of factory-farmed milk where cows (ruminants) are forced to eat grain and seldom ever get into the sun. Don't go for then nut milks - they're not even in the same ballpark for nutrition. It isn't milk or wheat that is the problem - BUT, it is HOW the milk or wheat has been raised or produced. If you're feeding your son wheat bread that is made using your basic baker's yeast - where the flour is taken directly out of the bag, mixed with liquids/yeast, and then only left to rise for a couple hours?? That's the unhealthy kind of wheat. We use recipes and ideas from Nourishing Traditions which is loaded with awesome information on how to make/find REAL food - not processed, not chemicals, not pasteurized, and not fed wrong!! I have a small nutrition group with other mothers of special needs children and we talk about nutrition, foods, and diets ALL the time if you want to come on over and join us. Just give me a yell.........Sharon On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Lynda Heffernan <lynda.heffernan (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Evening, I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. Cheers, Lynda.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. -- Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely accordingto conscience, above all liberties. - Milton, AreopagiticaDeut 11:15 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and youwill have plenty to eat.Check out my blog - www.ericsons.net - Food for the Body and Soul epiousian = the expression of agapequite a bit more than enoughGet the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 There is a lot of evidence for the 'opiate theory'. Dr. McCandless doesn't want a child using LDN without being both gluten free and dairy free. I heard so many parents report a huge change when becoming cf/gf, and sometimes soy free and corn free (both are genetically modified). She has a very comprehensive book out: Children With Starving Brains. Francine p.s. We make a lot of purees too! In a message dated 11/15/2008 7:57:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, esther.kraig@... writes: Hi, I'm new to the group. In fact, I should probably do an intropost. But my son is two (just turned on August 30) and he's suspectedof being on the spectrum. (We're still waiting for an officialdiagnosis.) Needless to say, I've been reading like mad, because Istarted out with NO knowledge of autism at all!From what I've read, there's no Scientific Evidence for the Opiatestheory. But apparently, some kids with Autism drink a TON of fluids -even to the point of drinking so much that they puke. That can bebad, so you should limit his fluids to some extent. (As much aspossible.) But get this - even with odd restricted diets, most kidswith Autism do NOT develop malnutrition!And I have some ideas about making white purees more varied. Beans(navy, great northern, other white ones) are easy to puree. If helikes bananas (and ONLY if he likes them, because he WILL taste them),they can be mixed in and still make the food white if you have enoughother stuff. Cauliflower, parsnips (they are YUMMY!), apples, allsorts of grains like Quinoa and Millet and spelt, potatoes and rice. The rice (and potatoes) could be boiled/steamed in chicken soup broth- if it's homemade, you can throw all SORTS of veggies in, and it'sstill a white puree. Onions - grate them - YUM! Garlic, too. Heck,radishes are white if you skip the red part. The white part ofscallions. Parsley root. Isn't fennel white? Rutabagas (never hadthem, but I want to try them). Pears. Chicken and pork can be pureedand it's still white.I wonder how much of his milk consumption is simple hunger. If hiswhite purees are mostly carbs, they're probably going right throughhim. Now I'm HOPING that he loves all sorts of flavors, and it's justdifferent TEXTURES (and colors) that he hates. If so, throwing a fewof those things into his diet should work. If not, then you have yourwork cut out for you. (BTW, coconut is also white - YUM!) My sonLOVES the flavor of onions, but if they're not grated, he spits themout because he doesn't like the texture.HTH! Anyone else have white food ideas?>> > Evening,>  > I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sisterhas aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. Myquestion is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litresper day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactosefree to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I havetried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gutand cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming.Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long asit's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv.>  > Cheers,> Lynda.> > Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://uk.messenger.> epiousian = the expression of agapequite a bit more than enoughGet the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Can you get it unsweetened and from brown rice in the UK? And if gmo is going on there too, it should be organic. There is a machine that lets you make your own from whatever bean or grain. It cooks it, then makes the milk. My feeling is that having something fresh with the enzymes intact is really important for our kids, especially those with gut problems. I'm big on nut or seed milks, which can be made fresh, and if from raw seeds or nuts has the enzymes. With a good blender (especially the vitamix), it's done in a snap. If you're wanting calcium, almonds are a good choice. Just don't use US almonds, as they are being treated. If you want/need more detailed discussion, let me know. Francine In a message dated 11/15/2008 7:52:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lynda.heffernan@... writes: Hello, Your mail was enlightening! What do you think about rice milk? Cheers, Lynda. From: sunrose101aol <sunrose101aol>Subject: Re: MilkAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Sunday, 26 October, 2008, 1:48 AM Dear Lynda, Both the casein in the milk and the gluten in the carbs are addictive (an understatement) . They go right for the endorphin receptors (just like heroin). Soy milk is, unfortunately, not a good choice, especially for a little boy. This is from Genet's autism list where the question was asked on soy: And don't panic, a month on soy isn't that long. You can make your own nut milks at home. If you want to know how, email me. We've all been overwhelmed (sometimes daily!). Sincerely, Francine, info on soy below: SOY DANGERS: * High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused growth problems in children. * Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic orders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused stunted growth. * Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women. * Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease. * Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body’s requirement for B12. * Soy foods increase the body’s requirement for vitamin D. * Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein. * Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines. * Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food processing and added to many soy foods. * Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and the kidneys. SOY INFANT FORMULA — BIRTH CONTROL PILLS FOR BABIES * Babies fed soy-based formula have 13,000 to 22,000 times more estrogen compounds in their blood than babies fed milk-based formula. * Infants exclusively fed soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at least five birth control pills per day. * Male infants undergo a “testosterone surge†during the first few months of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult male. During this period, baby boys are programmed to express male characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of their sexual organs and other masculine physical traits, but also in setting patterns in the brain characteristic of male behavior. * Pediatricians are noticing greater numbers of boys whose physical maturation is delayed, or does not occur at all, including lack of development of the sexual organs. Learning disabilities, especially in male children, have reached epidemic proportions. * Soy infant feeding—which floods the bloodstream with female hormones that inhibit testosterone—cannot be ignored as a possible cause for these tragic developments. In animals, soy feeding indicates that phytoestrogens in soy are powerful endocrine disrupters. * Almost 15 percent of white girls and 50 percent of African-American girls show signs of puberty such as breast development and pubic hair, before the age of eight. Some girls are showing sexual development before the age of three. Premature development of girls has been linked to the use of soy formula and exposure to environmental estrogens such as PCBs and DDE. In a message dated 10/25/2008 4:47:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lynda.heffernan@ .co. uk writes: Evening, I have a concern about my two and a half year old son. His sister has aspergers ¨[alomst 5¨] and he is being assessed for PDD-NOS. My question is about his appetite for milk. He is demanding 3-4 litres per day, and lot's of water, juice etc.I switched him from lactose free to soya about a month ago. I also add a pro-biotic powder. I have tried doing some research and have come across info about leaky gut and cerebral allergy to milk. To be honest it's a little overwhelming. Has anyone experienced this? He still wants to eat food. So long as it's white, soft and carb based. He is also obsessed with tv. Cheers, Lynda.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . epiousian = the expression of agapequite a bit more than enough Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | epiousian = the expression of agapequite a bit more than enoughGet the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more! 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Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Welcome ! You should know that, unfortunately, it is considered illegal for someone to bring raw milk to you. Currently, the sale is to take place at the farm. There is an active bill in the MN legislature, both House and Senate that would allow for farmers to deliver or for individuals to do such a carpooling effort. If you want to get involved, you should check out Minnesota Natural Health Legal Reform Project's website at MNHLRP.org for more information and contact your legislators to let them know you support this bill. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Thanks for the info Kathy! Like I said I'm new to this, but it doesn't take long to figure out that the laws are not the way they should be to say the least. I'll check out the web site and write a letter or make a call. I look forward to meeting some new friends soon and learning more about healthy living in Minnesota. Thanks again Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 This lack of access to local food is what our regulators (FDA, MDA, etc) are trying to hold on to as we consumers become more educated about our rights. Legal reform is a long-term plan to change of eliminate statutes that are put in place to interfere with our constitutional rights in the name of food safety. Safe food is killing us. If you want access to local farm connections, email us at Freedom Farms Coop. We have a legal process of reconnecting with our sources of high quality, fresh, local, unprocessed food. Will we continue to have challenges? Of course, but what is the alternative - to live with fear and resentment of our government? We need to understand that big business and government are really commingled to the point where we can't see the difference. The answer is in the power of choice and in our priorities. The food swap at the Honeymoon creamery yesterday was a good example of the complacency of most of our healthy food consumers. Of course there was a degree of new interest, but we should have had 150 families there instead of 15. These young farmers have their lives invested in producing medicinal quality food, and we don't have time to support them. Do you want more? Do you want the food options that we thought we had at the Trad Foods Warehouse? Stand up for your rights. Go ahead and write your rep or senator, but more importantly, write your check for food to a farmer. Not Whole Foods! > > Thanks for the info Kathy! Like I said I'm new to this, but it doesn't take long to figure out that the laws are not the way they should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Yes! Well said! I was at the Honeymoon Creamery potluck yesterday - happy to be there, but thinking there should be way more people attending. *Safe food is killing us.* *Go ahead and write your rep or senator, but more importantly, write your check for food to a farmer. Not Whole Foods!* Alvin, you are so right! ________________________________ From: Alvin S <mnorganiceggs@...> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Milk  This lack of access to local food is what our regulators (FDA, MDA, etc) are trying to hold on to as we consumers become more educated about our rights. Legal reform is a long-term plan to change of eliminate statutes that are put in place to interfere with our constitutional rights in the name of food safety. Safe food is killing us. If you want access to local farm connections, email us at Freedom Farms Coop. We have a legal process of reconnecting with our sources of high quality, fresh, local, unprocessed food. Will we continue to have challenges? Of course, but what is the alternative - to live with fear and resentment of our government? We need to understand that big business and government are really commingled to the point where we can't see the difference. The answer is in the power of choice and in our priorities. The food swap at the Honeymoon creamery yesterday was a good example of the complacency of most of our healthy food consumers. Of course there was a degree of new interest, but we should have had 150 families there instead of 15. These young farmers have their lives invested in producing medicinal quality food, and we don't have time to support them. Do you want more? Do you want the food options that we thought we had at the Trad Foods Warehouse? Stand up for your rights. Go ahead and write your rep or senator, but more importantly, write your check for food to a farmer. Not Whole Foods! > > Thanks for the info Kathy! Like I said I'm new to this, but it doesn't take long to figure out that the laws are not the way they should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 hi, everyone! I am looking for a source of real milk in the area. I just moved here from Hudson, WI. Please e-mail or call me if you know where I can go! Thanks, -- *Yael Grauer **Freelance Writer *Cell: (715) 456-4273 * *http://yaelwrites.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Thanks! If anyone wants to exercise their right to help me connect with high quality sources of real milk, my number is 715-456-4273. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Alvin S <mnorganiceggs@...> wrote: > ** > > > As manager of Freedom Farms Coop, I can say that we connect families with > local farm resources. We do not buy or sell fresh, 100% grass-fed dairy > products, but we do help you connect with high quality sources of a variety > of these local healthy foods. The FDA and MN doa continue to harass any > sign of raw milk in this state, but they cannot keep us from promoting > healthy food. Period. Most on this forum know how important it is to have > life in your food. We must decide to exercise our right to promote the > information that supports sustainable food production. Local family farms > count on it and growing families (knowledgeable) demand it. While our food > club is private, this movement toward better health is community based and > needs to be shared with all that we care for. Be well, Alvin > > > > > > > Thanks, but I can't drink pasteurized milk! > > > -- *Yael Grauer **Freelance Writer *Home: (715) 808-0845 Cell: (715) 456-4273 * *http://yaelwrites.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Hey Will, Why are you now pushing pasteurized milk? These farms milk may be a decent alternative to real milk but there are MANY farmers out there who supply real milk. And pasteurized is pasteurized. Does not matter to many if it is done at 145 for 30 minutes or 212 for 15 seconds, dead is dead. It is NOT illegal to purchase milk in this state and you do know that. The customer has to go to the farm to do it. There are many people on this list who do that so their families have good and nutritious food, not pasteurized stuff. Alvins coop and my dairy share thing are operating in grey areas until the state either changes legislation or a court decides on it. So far, Alvin is the trooper leading that battle. I hope people have not forgotten how much crap he has personally gone thru to get food to them. And where is it stated that we can not advertise raw milk or other farm products? Yeah, we may be opening up to the state as to what we are doing but at the same time, our animals do need to get fed. Or are our animals not worth as much as a state inspected dairy? If that is the route we should go then the legislation should be pushed to get farms certified for raw milk sales in stores. Just like California. I would LOVE to have my dairy get up to par in " cool " time saving equipment, bulk tanks, barn cleaners (that don't get hourly wages), a bottling system, washing system, etc. And I would not mind having an inspector come in to insure it was being done properly. Currently I have had to learn how to rebuild pulsators, scrub my own lines, brush my own animals, clean the barn with a shovel or pitch fork, fix my own fences, etc! This fear is crazy and stupid. It is going to put the remaining farmers out there who have tasty animals and milk out of biz because we are simply going to get sick and tired of this " have to meet in the back alley " mentality. We are not drug dealers and I resent that idea. In fact, I think I will raise my prices 10 fold to anyone who insinuates that about any of my products. And no, I am not looking to move more milk. I took my last two customers in today and won't have any extra until at least a month when babies start arriving. Raw milk is out there, and plenty of it. It may be harder to find and you may have to do some work to get it, but it does exist. > > Great question Yael, one that most of us have as well. Trouble is, no one can overtly offer raw milk right now, the legal atmosphere against raw milk farmers has never been nastier than the current situation. Everything is frozen into a lock-down situation right now until we get a change. It's awful. > > We can, however, steer you towards the next best thing, and it's good, that being certified organic, grade A, unhomogenized, lightly-pateurized wholesome milk. That would primarily be Castle Rock Creamery and Cedar Summit Farms. Always get whole milk (and cream and butter) and always take some for making your own yogurt and kefir. That gets some life back into it (not that it's completely dead). > > We are currently in the process of setting up a good route for people to get their CRC milk direct to a (fully-legal) drop site bypassing the store mark-ups and issues. Stay tuned for breaking news on that development. > > To speed up the time it takes to get our raw milk flowing again, please join the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund, and, if you can, join the Raw Milk Freedom Riders on December 8th. That's what it will take! > > Will Winter > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Yael- and all, Please know that there are many farmers here in Mn that can legally sell you the raw dairy you are seeking. Many of them are here on this board and are very treasured as not only farmers but also as close friends. Because the state has chosen to target raw dairy farmers, we as customers and friends feel it necessarily to protect our sources. Unfortunately that means that it may be a little harder for people to find this nourishing food. I strongly urge you to keep searching though. Make connections, attend events and invest yourself intto the mission of supporting small local farms. You will find what you are looking for, it may just take some time. For the many people who realize the benefits of fresh, unprocessed dairy, and who either can't consume pasteurized products or prefer the real deal, it's important to note that nothing has changed in the laws in MN, which is one of 15 states where it is legal to be obtained at the farm. We need to support all our farmers. We need all of you! We also need to get going on asking our state legislators (in the MN House and Senate) to support the Raw Milk Access Bill, SF 147 and HF 255, which is still alive in the state legislature. The MN legislature resumes the second half of its 2-yr session in a few weeks, so NOW is a great time to talk to and meet with your senator and rep. The beauty of this bill is that it allows farmers of fresh, unprocessed dairy products the freedom to deliver their products to their customers – just like any CSA – to homes, buying clubs, etc. It supports food freedom and grass-based farming. Speak up now for food freedom. Susie Zahratka > > ] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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