Re: Children and Hoochie Outfits

[Guest guest]

What annoys me and I do not know if it is still happening is the

insistence that girls in school uniforms have to wear skirts - some

pedophiles get a real kick out of that.

Not just that, skirts can be very impractical (well for girls that

like climbing anyway :-) )

" What's with the hoochie outfits for 18-month-old's

for

> that matter? ... <snip> ... I think that the way one carries her

> body probably contributes even more to a sexually forward image

than

> her clothing, not to say clothing doesn't carry meaning, too. "

>

> While that may be true for the most part, please keep in mind that

> pedophiles have a warped perception that justifies their actions

and

> one of those warped perceptions is that children are sexually

> provocative in their behaviours and their clothing.

>

> Therefore, dressing a child in hoochie clothing is only putting

that

> child more at risk where a known or a yet-to-be-identified

pedophile

> is in the vicinity.

>

> Also keep in mind that pedophiles offend a number of times before

> they are apprehended and charged.

>

> Raven

>

[Guest guest]

> What annoys me and I do not know if it is still happening is the

> insistence that girls in school uniforms have to wear skirts - some

> pedophiles get a real kick out of that.

>

> Not just that, skirts can be very impractical (well for girls that

> like climbing anyway :-) )

I hate skirts, always have. To me, a lot of extra fabric actually feels binding.

I received a failing grade in sixth-grade physical education class,

because I refused to wear the very short shorts part of the uniform.

-sara

[Guest guest]

I used to hate wearing shorts for PE lessons at school and would try

everything to get out of the lesson like forgetting my shorts

accidentially on purpose. Didn't work though because then we were

forced to join in the PE lesson in our regulation navy blue knickers.

Yuk!

Kate2

In , " Sara McGrath " <msaraann@...>

wrote:

>

> I received a failing grade in sixth-grade physical education class,

> because I refused to wear the very short shorts part of the uniform.

>

> -sara

>

[Guest guest]

> >I think that the way one carries her

> body probably contributes even more to a sexually forward image than

> her clothing, not to say clothing doesn't carry meaning, too. "

>

> While that may be true for the most part, please keep in mind that

> pedophiles have a warped perception that justifies their actions and

> one of those warped perceptions is that children are sexually

> provocative in their behaviours and their clothing.

Unfortunately for me, I am well aware of the existence of pedophiles

and how (not why) at least two of them operate. I was an incredibly

shy kid, not at all provocative, not friendly, not in any way

encouraging. I didn't even wear sexualized children's clothing. I used

clothing to hide.

I am cautious of my children's exposure to people. I am always

suspicious (of everyone), always on guard at some level. I don't dress

my children in sexualized clothing, but nor do I control what they

choose to wear or how they cover themselves. I don't risk promoting

shame where none would otherwise be.

My mother later told me that one of her boyfriends suggested that I,

at six years old, was trying to seduce him. She knew he was mistaken,

but she told me that she also knew how he'd gotten that impression.

She said it was because I gave shy sideways glances with my large

doe-like eyes which gave a coy-flirtatious impression. (because I was

uncomfortable looking directly at him!)

-sara

[Guest guest]

This is one of the biggest bugbears in my adult life as well, men

misinterpeting my aspie traits. I struggle to know how to deal with

this one and it isolates me even further. I often find myself in a no

win situation and withdraw even more from the outside world because of

it.

Kate2

In , " Sara McGrath " <msaraann@...>

wrote:

> She said it was because I gave shy sideways glances with my large

> doe-like eyes which gave a coy-flirtatious impression. (because I was

> uncomfortable looking directly at him!)

>

> -sara

>

[Guest guest]

>

> My mother later told me that one of her boyfriends suggested that I,

> at six years old, was trying to seduce him. She knew he was mistaken,

> but she told me that she also knew how he'd gotten that impression.

> She said it was because I gave shy sideways glances with my large

> doe-like eyes which gave a coy-flirtatious impression. (because I was

> uncomfortable looking directly at him!)

>

> -sara

Well, I hope your mother dumped him immediately!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/21/2006 2:56:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, ravenmagic2003@... writes:

Sara wrote: "What's with the hoochie outfits for 18-month-old's for that matter? ... <snip> ... I think that the way one carries her body probably contributes even more to a sexually forward image than her clothing, not to say clothing doesn't carry meaning, too."While that may be true for the most part, please keep in mind that pedophiles have a warped perception that justifies their actions and one of those warped perceptions is that children are sexually provocative in their behaviours and their clothing.

Finally answering this. I'll give some examples that I have personally seen. Several times I have seen teen age girls walking around in skin tight sweat pants with slogans on the posterior. Two I can recall were "juicy" and "bootilicious". Others I have seen wearing midrift baring tshirts with slogans on them like "Porn Star" and "I'm Easy".

I've also seen very young girls wearing midrift baring clothes, pleated miniskirts which barely covered anything, and other such things.

Add to that that many teen girls also act in rather sluttish fashion to match their clothes. I do know, for example, that sexual activity is pretty rampant in high schools and even middle schools these days. So not only are they dressing like tramps, plenty of them are acting the part too.

They get a lot of it not only from the advertizing, but also toys and magazines. The Bratz town line got in trouble about a year ago because one of their dolls had in their "personality profile" that came with it, that even though she was a young teen, she liked to go on blind dates with older men and the rest implied that she wouldn't shy away from sexual advances. Girl's magazines have a lot of stuff about relationships, but many times I have been amazed to see on the covers articles about sex advice that would probably be x rated given the way the titles read.

Its no wonder kids are so messed up these days. Adults aren't letting them be kids anymore. They got to be doing all these sports and such on the one hand, and the perverts and pedophiles in advertizing and the magazines are pushing them into earlier and earlier sex on the other. In this town, there was a bet going around in certain agencies that there would be an 11 year old giving birth any year now. We've already had 12 and 13 year olds pregnant, but I don't know about 11.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/21/2006 3:36:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

What annoys me and I do not know if it is still happening is the insistence that girls in school uniforms have to wear skirts - some pedophiles get a real kick out of that.Not just that, skirts can be very impractical (well for girls that like climbing anyway :-) )

Where I went to school prior to military school, we also had uniforms. Oddly enough, the colors and both of those schools were blue and white, specifially a white top and blue pants. There were other specifications. Any pants had to be long pants and skirts had to be at least to the knee. Shirts could be short or long and had to have collars. Girls could were dresses if they chose, but nothing open backed or otherwise revealing.

There was never any problem with this. Really it made shopping very easy because several stores catered to the schools and had these items on sale most of the time.

On the other hand, Japanese school girl uniforms probably WERE designed by pedophiles.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/21/2006 3:36:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

What annoys me and I do not know if it is still happening is the insistence that girls in school uniforms have to wear skirts - some pedophiles get a real kick out of that.Not just that, skirts can be very impractical (well for girls that like climbing anyway :-) )

Where I went to school prior to military school, we also had uniforms. Oddly enough, the colors and both of those schools were blue and white, specifially a white top and blue pants. There were other specifications. Any pants had to be long pants and skirts had to be at least to the knee. Shirts could be short or long and had to have collars. Girls could were dresses if they chose, but nothing open backed or otherwise revealing.

There was never any problem with this. Really it made shopping very easy because several stores catered to the schools and had these items on sale most of the time.

On the other hand, Japanese school girl uniforms probably WERE designed by pedophiles.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/21/2006 4:12:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, Kate-Irvine@... writes:

This is one of the biggest bugbears in my adult life as well, men misinterpeting my aspie traits. I struggle to know how to deal with this one and it isolates me even further. I often find myself in a no win situation and withdraw even more from the outside world because of it.Kate2

People misinterpret mine as well. Lots of people have thought I was gay because of the way I sometimes walk or stand. Well, its kind of hard to walk "normally" when one leg is about half an inch longer than the other and the hips are lopsided as well. Then there was the point that I don't chase girls like most guys do, but that is mostly due ot lack of interest in a relationship and getting cussed at when I got caught looking, by the girls themselves that is.

Anyway, the actual gays seemed to know that I wasn't one of them and rarely bothered me.

[Guest guest]

> > My mother later told me that one of her boyfriends suggested that I,

> > at six years old, was trying to seduce him. She knew he was mistaken,

> > but she told me that she also knew how he'd gotten that impression.

> > She said it was because I gave shy sideways glances with my large

> > doe-like eyes which gave a coy-flirtatious impression. (because I was

> > uncomfortable looking directly at him!)

> >

> > -sara

>

> Well, I hope your mother dumped him immediately!

She wasn't with him long, but I'm not sure of the time relationship

between the two events. She was super protective of me though, so

probably.

-sara

[Guest guest]

> > My mother later told me that one of her boyfriends suggested that I,

> > at six years old, was trying to seduce him. She knew he was mistaken,

> > but she told me that she also knew how he'd gotten that impression.

> > She said it was because I gave shy sideways glances with my large

> > doe-like eyes which gave a coy-flirtatious impression. (because I was

> > uncomfortable looking directly at him!)

> >

> > -sara

>

> Well, I hope your mother dumped him immediately!

She wasn't with him long, but I'm not sure of the time relationship

between the two events. She was super protective of me though, so

probably.

-sara

[Guest guest]

At one school I went to part of the uniform was a very short skirt we

were required to wear for sports - looking back I just have to

question this. I like the rule about skirts having to be a certain

length - but in this day and age girls should be allowed trouses as

part of the school uniform.

>

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2006 3:36:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> julie.stevenson16@... writes:

>

> What annoys me and I do not know if it is still happening is the

> insistence that girls in school uniforms have to wear skirts -

some

> pedophiles get a real kick out of that.

>

> Not just that, skirts can be very impractical (well for girls that

> like climbing anyway :-) )

>

>

>

>

>

> Where I went to school prior to military school, we also had

uniforms. Oddly

> enough, the colors and both of those schools were blue and white,

> specifially a white top and blue pants. There were other

specifications. Any pants had

> to be long pants and skirts had to be at least to the knee. Shirts

could be

> short or long and had to have collars. Girls could were dresses if

they chose,

> but nothing open backed or otherwise revealing.

>

> There was never any problem with this. Really it made shopping very

easy

> because several stores catered to the schools and had these items

on sale most

> of the time.

>

> On the other hand, Japanese school girl uniforms probably WERE

designed by

> pedophiles.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/22/2006 7:31:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

At one school I went to part of the uniform was a very short skirt we were required to wear for sports - looking back I just have to question this. I like the rule about skirts having to be a certain length - but in this day and age girls should be allowed trouses as part of the school uniform.

Our athletic uniforms were short pants (not short shorts mind you) and a t shirt and a set of sweat clothes for cooler weather. That was the same for both boys and girls.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/22/2006 10:47:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, acsnag@... writes:

Interesting..... I am a man. I wear pants all day long, I do not own any jeans because they are so uncomfortable, stiff and restricting. When I get home from work the first thing I do is get out of work clothes and into a skirt or dress. I is so freeing. It is ten times more comfortable than pants. I can not understand why anyone would voluntarily wear pants except for things like climbing or working on ladders or crawling on your hands and knees.Ace

It depends on the kind of jeans, the cut of them. I don't like the tight fitting ones either, so I buy those that have a looser fit.

[Guest guest]

Sara McGrath wrote:

> Not just that, skirts can be very impractical (well for girls that

> > like climbing anyway :-) )

>

> I hate skirts, always have. To me, a lot of extra fabric actually feels

> binding.

Interesting..... I am a man. I wear pants all day long, I do not own any

jeans because they are so uncomfortable, stiff and restricting. When I

get home from work the first thing I do is get out of work clothes and

into a skirt or dress. I is so freeing. It is ten times more comfortable

than pants. I can not understand why anyone would voluntarily wear pants

except for things like climbing or working on ladders or crawling on

your hands and knees.

Ace

[Guest guest]

Ace:

> Interesting..... I am a man. I wear pants all day long, I do not own any

jeans because they are so uncomfortable, stiff and restricting. When I

get home from work the first thing I do is get out of work clothes and

into a skirt or dress. I is so freeing. It is ten times more comfortable

than pants. I can not understand why anyone would voluntarily wear pants

except for things like climbing or working on ladders or crawling on

your hands and knees.

Cool! Can I quote that?

I've always thought it must be terrible to be a man - unless you live in

Saudi Arabia! Having a noose around one's neck I would find particularly

disconcerting. How can anyone work in formal attire (especially in the

summer time!)??

I only wear long flowing dresses that don't restrict energy flow and

movement. Can't stand anything that's tight.

Inger

[Guest guest]

Do you know I just cannot get comfortable in a dress. Every year I

buy one or two in the Summer but rarely wear them and end up giving

them down to the charity shop or leaving them in the wardrobe for

years. I am ok in a light summery skirt and short sleeved tee-shirt

though so I think it has something to do with not having anything

around my middle in a dress.

In colder weather I am much more comfortable in some nice loose

fitting casual trousers than a skirt. I have just started wearing

jeans again in the last two years after losing some weight at weight

watchers but I don't like them too tight.

Kate2

In , " Inger Lorelei " <inglori@...>

wrote:

>

>

> I only wear long flowing dresses that don't restrict energy flow and

> movement. Can't stand anything that's tight.

>

> Inger

>

[Guest guest]

Inger Lorelei wrote:

> Cool! Can I quote that?

Sure.

> I only wear long flowing dresses that don't restrict energy flow and

> movement. Can't stand anything that's tight.

I've always found it interesting,women's anatomy is far more favorable

for wearing pants than men. Maybe pants should be made with bags at the

crotch like some men's under shorts.

I find long flowing dresses most comfortable. My legs get cold very

quickly so I prefer to keep them covered. My preference is dresses

rather that skirts for comfort but I love flowing skirts with lots of

soft material and that's much easier to find in skirts rather than dresses.

I must say though that for women I love seeing them in short skirts. It

really pumps up the imagination. I am not a pedophile but older girls

with a sense of innocent maturity I do find very attractive.

I am a firm believer in the concept of knowing the difference between

thoughts and acting on them. Younger children hold no attraction

whatsoever, short skirts or not.

I know for me a woman wearing something hot and sexy is always more

attractive than seeing her nude, no matter how perfect her body may be.

I have seen women wearing long flowing dresses that were just the

hottest, sexiest image available. It is definitely not about nudity.

Ace

[Guest guest]

>> Cool! Can I quote that?

Ace:

> Sure.

Thanks. What country are you from (I usually state that in my quotes).

> I've always found it interesting,women's anatomy is far more favorable

for wearing pants than men. Maybe pants should be made with bags at the

crotch like some men's under shorts.

There is a reason men's testicles are outside their bodies; to keep the

sperm from overheating. I can't see how sqeezing one's private parts into

tight underwear and pants can be healthy. Samuraj outfits must be much

better for the body?

> I find long flowing dresses most comfortable. My legs get cold very

quickly so I prefer to keep them covered. My preference is dresses

rather that skirts for comfort but I love flowing skirts with lots of

soft material and that's much easier to find in skirts rather than dresses.

My legs get cold too so I wear leg-warmers at all times.

> I know for me a woman wearing something hot and sexy is always more

attractive than seeing her nude, no matter how perfect her body may be.

I have seen women wearing long flowing dresses that were just the

hottest, sexiest image available. It is definitely not about nudity.

Right.

I personally prefer men in male clothing - even though it must be

uncomfortable in the extreme and I feel much sympathy for their bodily

imprisonment. (Primitive sort of thing I guess.)

Inger

[Guest guest]

Yeah, for just sitting around and not doing much I don't mind wearing

a skirt, but if I am going to be running around etc I prefer pants :-)

I think it should be more acceptable for men to wear skirts and

dresses if they want to.

Is it the African culture where men wear like African Dress?, I can

see it in my mind, but not sure which culture - looks good anyway.

> > Not just that, skirts can be very impractical (well for girls

that

> > > like climbing anyway :-) )

> >

> > I hate skirts, always have. To me, a lot of extra fabric actually

feels

> > binding.

>

>

> Interesting..... I am a man. I wear pants all day long, I do not

own any

> jeans because they are so uncomfortable, stiff and restricting.

When I

> get home from work the first thing I do is get out of work clothes

and

> into a skirt or dress. I is so freeing. It is ten times more

comfortable

> than pants. I can not understand why anyone would voluntarily wear

pants

> except for things like climbing or working on ladders or crawling

on

> your hands and knees.

>

> Ace

>

[Guest guest]

" I have seen women wearing long flowing dresses that were just the

hottest, sexiest image available. It is definitely not about nudity. "

Yeah I didn't realise my fondness for wearing long white victorian

nightgowns was a turn on for some - after all I was covered from neck

down to ankles - not sure if it was my aspie cluelessness that

stopped me realising some men find it a turn on; but I've just come

to the conclusion some men are going to get turned on no matter what

a woman wears.

>

> > Cool! Can I quote that?

>

> Sure.

>

> > I only wear long flowing dresses that don't restrict energy flow

and

> > movement. Can't stand anything that's tight.

>

> I've always found it interesting,women's anatomy is far more

favorable

> for wearing pants than men. Maybe pants should be made with bags at

the

> crotch like some men's under shorts.

>

> I find long flowing dresses most comfortable. My legs get cold very

> quickly so I prefer to keep them covered. My preference is dresses

> rather that skirts for comfort but I love flowing skirts with lots

of

> soft material and that's much easier to find in skirts rather than

dresses.

>

> I must say though that for women I love seeing them in short

skirts. It

> really pumps up the imagination. I am not a pedophile but older

girls

> with a sense of innocent maturity I do find very attractive.

>

> I am a firm believer in the concept of knowing the difference

between

> thoughts and acting on them. Younger children hold no attraction

> whatsoever, short skirts or not.

>

> I know for me a woman wearing something hot and sexy is always more

> attractive than seeing her nude, no matter how perfect her body may

be.

> I have seen women wearing long flowing dresses that were just the

> hottest, sexiest image available. It is definitely not about nudity.

>

> Ace

>

[Guest guest]

" I have seen women wearing long flowing dresses that were just the

hottest, sexiest image available. It is definitely not about nudity. "

Yeah I didn't realise my fondness for wearing long white victorian

nightgowns was a turn on for some - after all I was covered from neck

down to ankles - not sure if it was my aspie cluelessness that

stopped me realising some men find it a turn on; but I've just come

to the conclusion some men are going to get turned on no matter what

a woman wears.

>

> > Cool! Can I quote that?

>

> Sure.

>

> > I only wear long flowing dresses that don't restrict energy flow

and

> > movement. Can't stand anything that's tight.

>

> I've always found it interesting,women's anatomy is far more

favorable

> for wearing pants than men. Maybe pants should be made with bags at

the

> crotch like some men's under shorts.

>

> I find long flowing dresses most comfortable. My legs get cold very

> quickly so I prefer to keep them covered. My preference is dresses

> rather that skirts for comfort but I love flowing skirts with lots

of

> soft material and that's much easier to find in skirts rather than

dresses.

>

> I must say though that for women I love seeing them in short

skirts. It

> really pumps up the imagination. I am not a pedophile but older

girls

> with a sense of innocent maturity I do find very attractive.

>

> I am a firm believer in the concept of knowing the difference

between

> thoughts and acting on them. Younger children hold no attraction

> whatsoever, short skirts or not.

>

> I know for me a woman wearing something hot and sexy is always more

> attractive than seeing her nude, no matter how perfect her body may

be.

> I have seen women wearing long flowing dresses that were just the

> hottest, sexiest image available. It is definitely not about nudity.

>

> Ace

>

[Guest guest]

Well said. I found that a little disconcerting too but did not know how to

express it.

Inger

Re: Children and Hoochie Outfits

" I have seen women wearing long flowing dresses that were just the

hottest, sexiest image available. It is definitely not about nudity. "

Yeah I didn't realise my fondness for wearing long white victorian

nightgowns was a turn on for some - after all I was covered from neck

down to ankles - not sure if it was my aspie cluelessness that

stopped me realising some men find it a turn on; but I've just come

to the conclusion some men are going to get turned on no matter what

a woman wears.

>

> > Cool! Can I quote that?

>

> Sure.

>

> > I only wear long flowing dresses that don't restrict energy flow

and

> > movement. Can't stand anything that's tight.

>

> I've always found it interesting,women's anatomy is far more

favorable

> for wearing pants than men. Maybe pants should be made with bags at

the

> crotch like some men's under shorts.

>

> I find long flowing dresses most comfortable. My legs get cold very

> quickly so I prefer to keep them covered. My preference is dresses

> rather that skirts for comfort but I love flowing skirts with lots

of

> soft material and that's much easier to find in skirts rather than

dresses.

>

> I must say though that for women I love seeing them in short

skirts. It

> really pumps up the imagination. I am not a pedophile but older

girls

> with a sense of innocent maturity I do find very attractive.

>

> I am a firm believer in the concept of knowing the difference

between

> thoughts and acting on them. Younger children hold no attraction

> whatsoever, short skirts or not.

>

> I know for me a woman wearing something hot and sexy is always more

> attractive than seeing her nude, no matter how perfect her body may

be.

> I have seen women wearing long flowing dresses that were just the

> hottest, sexiest image available. It is definitely not about nudity.

>

> Ace

>

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[Guest guest]

Well said. I found that a little disconcerting too but did not know how to

express it.

Inger

Re: Children and Hoochie Outfits

" I have seen women wearing long flowing dresses that were just the

hottest, sexiest image available. It is definitely not about nudity. "

Yeah I didn't realise my fondness for wearing long white victorian

nightgowns was a turn on for some - after all I was covered from neck

down to ankles - not sure if it was my aspie cluelessness that

stopped me realising some men find it a turn on; but I've just come

to the conclusion some men are going to get turned on no matter what

a woman wears.

>

> > Cool! Can I quote that?

>

> Sure.

>

> > I only wear long flowing dresses that don't restrict energy flow

and

> > movement. Can't stand anything that's tight.

>

> I've always found it interesting,women's anatomy is far more

favorable

> for wearing pants than men. Maybe pants should be made with bags at

the

> crotch like some men's under shorts.

>

> I find long flowing dresses most comfortable. My legs get cold very

> quickly so I prefer to keep them covered. My preference is dresses

> rather that skirts for comfort but I love flowing skirts with lots

of

> soft material and that's much easier to find in skirts rather than

dresses.

>

> I must say though that for women I love seeing them in short

skirts. It

> really pumps up the imagination. I am not a pedophile but older

girls

> with a sense of innocent maturity I do find very attractive.

>

> I am a firm believer in the concept of knowing the difference

between

> thoughts and acting on them. Younger children hold no attraction

> whatsoever, short skirts or not.

>

> I know for me a woman wearing something hot and sexy is always more

> attractive than seeing her nude, no matter how perfect her body may

be.

> I have seen women wearing long flowing dresses that were just the

> hottest, sexiest image available. It is definitely not about nudity.

>

> Ace

>

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