Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 I can't find a bump nor a ridge. But it's not exactly flat back there either. More like a little hill with a valley under it. What counts as a bump? Inger > As I recall, those of Melungeon and Anatolian ancestry have such bumps. " There are some physiological characteristics which are called ethnic markers, that seem to be passed on through the lines of some Melungeon descendants. There is a bump on the back of the HEAD of SOME descendants, that is located at mid-line, just ABOVE the juncture with the neck. It is about the size and shape of half a golf ball or smaller. This is called an ANATOLIAN BUMP, and indicates ancestry from the Anatolian region of Turkey. If you cannot find the bump, check to see if you, like some descendants, including myself, have a ridge, located at the base of the head where it joins the neck, rather than the Anatolian bump. " http://www.melungeonhealth.org/info.html sara -- Sprouts http://clanmcgrath.blogspot.com mother anarchy http://motheranarchy.blogspot.com FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Check the Links section for more FAM forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 I can't find a bump nor a ridge. But it's not exactly flat back there either. More like a little hill with a valley under it. What counts as a bump? Inger > As I recall, those of Melungeon and Anatolian ancestry have such bumps. " There are some physiological characteristics which are called ethnic markers, that seem to be passed on through the lines of some Melungeon descendants. There is a bump on the back of the HEAD of SOME descendants, that is located at mid-line, just ABOVE the juncture with the neck. It is about the size and shape of half a golf ball or smaller. This is called an ANATOLIAN BUMP, and indicates ancestry from the Anatolian region of Turkey. If you cannot find the bump, check to see if you, like some descendants, including myself, have a ridge, located at the base of the head where it joins the neck, rather than the Anatolian bump. " http://www.melungeonhealth.org/info.html sara -- Sprouts http://clanmcgrath.blogspot.com mother anarchy http://motheranarchy.blogspot.com FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Check the Links section for more FAM forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 " I think we need to be REALLY careful to not get caught up in similar Homo Aspiens racism and assume that everything useful and good in the world was invented by Aspies, and everything bad by everyone else. That can easily happen if we go too far on the 'autistic pride' thing (which is part of my beef with some other advocacy groups out there). " Yeah it is obvious that non autistic people must be good for something otherwise why do we have them :-) Seriously though - non autistic people that are socially adept and use that ability for good can and do accomplish great things - they are able to bring people together - are able to navigate through the social mine field that me personally as an aspie cannot. Non aspies can relate to other none aspies and actually help to get the aspie view across to others - they can basically communicate on the same wave length as other non aspies, whereas I find it very hard communicating with non-aspies - it is like some sort of communication break down and I tire of trying to get my point across - they cannot easily relate to me - or me to them. > > Kate: > > > Leonard Jeffries explains away any crime-data (showing that any > > > non-whites commit crimes at all) by saying that " sun people " (anyone > > > not white or yellow) commit crimes only under " ice people " oppression > > > created by " ice people " social standards that " sun people " reject and > > > virtuously refuse to live by. (E.g., Jeffries claims that " sun people " > > > naturally share everything, out of the pure generosity of their warm > > > " sun people " hearts, so [according to Jeffries] " sun people " cannot > > > understand - and should not have to live by - such chilly, inhuman > > > " ice people " notions as private property.) > > > > Sigh. And naturally the government doesn't view this as racism? > > > Not yet - but unease over this professor (he teaches at a publicly > funded college in New York City) has grown. Fortunately, he now has a > harder and harder time filling his classes - partly because he now > restricts his classes to those who have a dark enough complexion to > suit him - he tells anyone " too light " (including most blacks) who may > show up on the first day that they should probably choose another > class because they have too many " ice people " genes to do well with > his " sun people " teaching-style and subject-matter. > (His subject-matter includes claims that the " sun people " of the > world invented mathematics, language, science, and just about > everything else - e.g., he claims that the ancient Egyptians often > traveled by airplane and that the " ice people's so-called science " has > maliciously destroyed evidence of this.) > > Stunning! > > I think we need to be REALLY careful to not get caught up in similar Homo > Aspiens racism and assume that everything useful and good in the world was > invented by Aspies, and everything bad by everyone else. That can easily > happen if we go too far on the 'autistic pride' thing (which is part of my > beef with some other advocacy groups out there). > > Inger > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Inger: > " I think we need to be REALLY careful to not get caught up in similar > Homo Aspiens racism and assume that everything useful and good in the > world was invented by Aspies, and everything bad by everyone else. > That can easily happen if we go too far on the 'autistic pride' thing > (which is part of my beef with some other advocacy groups out there). " : > Yeah it is obvious that non autistic people must be good for > something otherwise why do we have them :-) > > Seriously though - non autistic people that are socially adept and > use that ability for good can and do accomplish great things - they > are able to bring people together - are able to navigate through the > social mine field that me personally as an aspie cannot. Yes, obviously NTs " must be good " for something. The Neanderthal theory doesn't disagree on this account either. Hss had a social system that allowed them to trade and exchange information between larger groups. Hn simply was as " close-minded " as an eremit! This certainly contributed to their demise. Leif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Kate: > I think so - for one thing, I wouldn't vastly enjoy spending hours > cleaning dead animals and turning their skins into leather (tanning > leather *stinks*!) - the things I probably would have had to do a lot > of, fifty thousand years ago. > If you felt happier without " all of these things " (computers, > etc.) I think you would have given them up long ago. I think this is mostly a matter of laziness and being used to high-tech. If I was reared 50,000 years ago, I'm sure I'd fit in and enjoy myself. The trouble for me is that we are over-using our resources to a degree that will put future generations " back into the stone-age " . I'm not very comfortable with that. > Since it turns out that you have read Stan Gooch, I think you would do > a much better job than I could of explaining his theories (similar to > yours) and showing how your theories differ in the areas where they do > differ. I'll have to reread it in that case. It was one of the first books I read for the project, probably back in 2002 or something. I don't remember his actual arguments. Leif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 In a message dated 3/22/2006 8:28:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, inglori@... writes: I did not write this. Kate did. Inger I know. However, I quoted it from your post and forgot to cut that bit at the top that said it was from you. I answer most of the post from the emails sent to me from the site. Quoting on AOL automatically puts that header up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 I did not write this. Kate did. Inger Re: Re: Neanderthal theory In a message dated 3/21/2006 11:34:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, inglori@... writes: Not yet - but unease over this professor (he teaches at a publiclyfunded college in New York City) has grown. Fortunately, he now has aharder and harder time filling his classes - partly because he nowrestricts his classes to those who have a dark enough complexion tosuit him - he tells anyone "too light" (including most blacks) who mayshow up on the first day that they should probably choose anotherclass because they have too many "ice people" genes to do well withhis "sun people" teaching-style and subject-matter. (His subject-matter includes claims that the "sun people" of theworld invented mathematics, language, science, and just abouteverything else - e.g., he claims that the ancient Egyptians oftentraveled by airplane and that the "ice people's so-called science" hasmaliciously destroyed evidence of this.) People like him have obviously never been to Africa where the "sun people" are mostly in control. We had a student in high school from Sierra Leon who was sent there to get him out of the country where he would be safe. HIs father was a government offical of some kind. Unfortunately for this cadet, who was a friend of mine, he was one the phone talking to his father one day when a group of "rebels" broke in the house and killed him and his wife, the cadet's mother. You might have guessed, the fellow heard the whole thing over the phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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